:x i have been trying to get the bluetooth sync to work to no avail. i am using a 3com bluetooth usb adapter on my pc and card on my notebook. i am having problems with both when i try to synchronise. i can see my i-mate has been discovered and bonded; i can send files too. but i cannot synchronise. either there is a bug in the PDA software, or its really hard (needs a rocket scientist) to use!!! either way its dissappointing. can anyone help?
by the way my nokia and ericsson phones sync fine with my current setup.
I have the same problem using a toshiba portege 4010 with bluetooth built in, it works with my Nokia but not with the XDA i am using aytivesync 3.7.1
I would also like some help or ideas please
Thanks
John
Got bluetooth to work once
I got bluetooth to work only once using a Billionton USB Bluetooth adapter. The software is neat, but requires so much messing around with to get the PDA to actually synchronise in bluetooth mode. Unfortunately, I could not get it to work again. Should have documented what I did the first time.
After trying lots of times, it works. I sycronised a XDA2 in bluetooth mode.
There are a few important things
1. You first have to sychronise the XDA2 in USB Cradle to build a standard-partnership between desktop pc and XDA2.
2.remove the XDA2 from the Cradle.
3.look which com-port your bluetooth serial port is using
4.take these settings over to the active sync settings (must be exactly the same com port)
5. pair the two devices
6.start active sync on the XDA2 and sychronise via bluetooth
It works.....
i made a better description with screenshots (in german) but i don't know how to post it.
I use a toshiba laptop with bluetooth built in, but when i scan the available bluetooth things in the XDA 2 it only finds "voice gateway" and "SSA" or something like that, there is no serial port listed, when i scan a phone (nokia) it finds "dun" "serial port" "fax" etc etc.
So i cant connect my XDA2 as the only profiles it seems to have are Voice gateway and some SSA thing, so as there is no serial port listed i cant use activesync, i have bonded with both the voice and SSA thing to com ports from 5 to 9 and get a connection, but as its not a serial port it will not work with activesync.
Sorry for my terrible description of the problem, but if yours works i am sur e it will make sence to you
Thanks
John
Your right ! The XDA2 provides no serial port profile to my Bluetooth stick too. And thats why the Bluetooth GPS Receiver doesn't work.
I know this sounds strange, but with Active Sync Bluetooth definitely works.
Yes I finally got it to work a couple of days ago with a certain type of bluetooth usb adapter and software. All I can say, is that bluetooth is not very user friendly!!!! Activesync should have it show up just as it shows "infrared" in the connection settings. This will make it very easy to select it. In this day and age, you cannot expect a technology to be successful from mass usage if it is not totally idiot proof. BLUETOOTH is not.... WIFI will rule!!!!
Hi so have you bonded to the "ssa" profile, and then what ever com port you used you then changed activesync to use this port and it then works, because i tried this and it done not work.
I also have a tomtom bluetooth that a friend is borrowing, but by the looks of it there is no point in getting it back as if there is no serial port on the available using bluetooth that will not work either
Thanks
John
try this link. it may help u set up your bluetooth with active sync - http://www.bluetoothnews.com/features/ActiveSync.htm
@applecom
No. You just have to pair the Devices. Don't connect to any Profile.
Pair them and then start Active Sync from the XDA 2 and connect with bluetooth.
activesync and bluetooth with xda II
start > settings > system > bluetooth settings > Activesync over blutooth (START)
Nutty but there you go.
XDA II Bluetooth ActiveSync
I noted if you add or change the registry will work even better :
\HLKM\SOFT\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Activesync
IsBTASsetup from 0 to 1
Hi
I have changed the registry like you said, But how dose it work better, the only problems i have are when i ask activesync on the XDA to connect over BT it oftern trys and says port in use, i just retry a few times and it works. After doing the reg edit it did connect first time, but is this what you ment by "its works better"
Thanks
John
As this my first ever post, I don't want to come over as smug, but I took delivery of my XDA 2 today and it synced using bluetooth after about 25 minutes of 'messing'!
All I did was delete all the bonding between the PC and the XDA and told it to sync via bluetooth, initiating from the XDA, I thought that it had failed...but then the XDA sprang to life and 'Bob was my uncle'!!
Very impressed with my XDA 2, having used an XDA for about 8 months.
Andy.
Bluetooth Sync
What I meant was it has become easier to get XDA II sync via bluetooth. Please note that you have to unpair your PC first then change the registry and pair again. If your PC's Bluetooth dongle support Headset profile ( I used anycom USB220 which has this profile) you will see your XDA II asking you if you want Headset profile added and Activesync screen for bluetooth appeared as well. Changing the registry will always make the sync work is what i noted. Seems like XDA II Bluetooth supports many profile just that dont know how to make it works.
Bluetooth Activesync problems
I'm on the verge of giving up on this! Think I should stick to USB sync...here goes...
I've tried the tricks mentioned in the forum to try to get my XDA II to sync via bluetooth with my Sony VAIO laptop (it has built-in bluetooth). I can get the two devices to bond (I enter the PIN number on both the laptop and XDA and it succeeds) but then I try to run the Bluetooth Activesync setup (in Settings-->Bluetooth Settings on the XDA) I get an error message every time that says "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Activesync profile as your Activesync partner!"
I thought I already HAD bonded the devices? Any ideas?
Cheers
Carlton
Finally sorted it out. Delete the partnership that you already have. Start from start>settings>system>Bluetooth Settings. When you clik start, then pair your device again. After the pairing, you will get the message that Bluetooth Active Sync is now ready.
Still no joy
Thanks for your help Merc.
I tried doing exactly what you suggested but still doesn't work. This is what happens:
I deleted the existing bond on both XDA II and PC.
I went to start>settings>system>Bluetooth Settings and clicked on Start. This gave me the message "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Activesync profile as your Activesync partner!" like before, then automatically opened the Bluetooth connections control panel in the "Mode" pane. I chose 'Discoverable' and clicked OK. I then went to my PC and used the Wireless Link control panel and clicked 'Add' (to run Bluetooth connection wizard) which searched for devices. It found my XDA II and I entered the passkey on both XDAII and PC (same passkey on each).
The Bluetooth connection wizard then told me that the XDAII was offering DUN (dial up networking) services. I selected this and then clicked next. Was I supposed to select this (actually, it made no difference when I tried again without selecting!).
The wizard completed and both the PC and XDAII notified me that the bond was successful. I then waited and waited for something else to 'happen' (like a message to say that Bluetooth Active Sync is now ready.) but nothing happened. I gave it a couple of minutes.
I went to Activesync on the XDA and tried the 'connct with Bluetooth' just in case it had worked, but nothing happened. I went to Activesync on the PC and tried using a different COM port for infrared/serial links (as I assume this is what bluetooth uses) but no joy. I only had COM3 and COM4 showing in the connection settings in activesync, which surprised me as I thought there would be more.
That's it. I tried 3 times but still no luck. Any other ideas are greatly appreciated!
Cheers
Carlton
The
Your procedure is just like mine. But I used "On" and discovered the PC from the PDA. Do not use "Discoverable". Let me hear if you have any luck
The only way I have got it to work is assigning the bluetooth serial port to COM 6. Then set Activesync on the desktop to COM 6.
Any other COM port just won't work. Anybody else got it working on a different bluetooth COM port?
xdaguru
Related
Hi,
I've got problems tu configure my MDA2 to use ActiveSync via bluetooth.
Is somewhere a step-by-step instruction or can someone tell me, wich steps a necessary to establish this connenction ??
After I upgraded the rom and after about 20 hours trying, I was able to synchronize via bluetooth. Yesterday, I have to reset my device (complete) and installed everything again...but now, I'm not be able to get activesync via bluetooth working...
please help...
rob.
I was having difficulties as well. I wanted to Sync using Bluetooth because that way I can leave the unit in the leather case and just plug in a charge cable instead of cradling it.
I did the following:
In 'Settings/System/Bluetooth Settings' I pressed the start button underneath "Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup". I then paired with my PC. Then I could start ActiveSync on the device, and by selecting 'Tools/Connect via Bluetooth' it would connect. By setting it to not release the connect after it's done synchonising, I can even network over it.
However, after going to sleep and waking back up the connection is gone. Reconnecting won't work because something in the XDA still thinks it's connected, so it needs a soft-reset before connecting again.
This is on a device with ROM 1.52 though, will test on 1.60 later on. It's a pain that just pressing 'Sync' will not work, and that you have to manually select the option from the tools menu.
I'm not even able to start the connection to my PC.
When I use ActiveSync and say "Connect via Bluetooth" on the O2, it does nothing.
I'm able to use bluetooth to exchange files and that's barely all.
I have an ActiveSync profile in my bluetooth manager on the PC (WidCOMM stack) and can affect a COM Port but that's all...
Can anyone help ?
Hi,
@ Peter Poelman,
thankf for your reply. The way you described is exactly what I have done the last 2 days (about 500 times :shock: )
Now I know, where the problem was. I had the same behaviour like Murcielago. AciveSync did'd do anything, when I tryed to connect via bluetooth (of course, tha PDA and the PC were paired).
I remeber, as I set up the connection the first time (some weeks ago as it works), after pairing the device with the PC I got a messagebox on the PDA , which said that ActiveSync-Setup is now finished (or configured or something like that). I didn't get that yesterday.
I had installed a Bluetooth-GPS-Serial-Driver (from Towa) and it seems, that this one made the trouble. After I had removed the driver, the connection works great again. It seems, that removing the GPS-Driver is only necessary for the first setup of the connection...after the connection was made, I have installed the GPS-Driver again and now both works...
thanks a lot
rob.
I uninstalled the Towa patch this morning but nothing changes.
It's as if pressing Connect via bluetooth doesn't even answer.
When I try, connect via IR, I get a box telling me "Connecting to host".... but nothing like this with Connect via Bluetooth.
I really don't understand that ****ing bluetooth. It's not a intuitive technology.
I bought a WiFi module for my PC and I'll receive it today. I think I won't have to bother with that crazy bluetooth anymore.
The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax
hi,
I've the same problem,
when I try to connect trough bt I recive a popup saying "status: connecting to host".
I've an xda II with rom v. 1.52.00wwe and BT fix by towa.
Is anyone so gentle to send me (or post a link) the widcomm stack?
[email protected]
I hope it could resolve the problem.
thank you so much,
rubenio.
WOAAA TOWA
His last version of the bluetooth patch is incredible and activesync via bluetooth worked in less time then it took me to install the patch.
I now have ActiveSync via bluetooth and internet access via activesync.
Take it there : http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
I think he really did a tremendous job and the rest is coming (network access, etc...)
Can't get Bluetooth and Active Sync to work (1.60 ROM)
Hi !
I've also upgraded my device with the new 1.60 ROM, but I'cant get Bluetooth to work with active sync.
I've selected the "Inbound COM port 4" under Bluetooth Settings. After the device is bonded and I search for services my Logitech bluetooth device display the COM 4 serial port. But when I try to connect it display the following error: Could not establish connection with the remote device. I think it maybe is my settings on the PC.
Hope for some guidance :wink:
Panabax said:
The Towa patch is the culprit. It is not enough to uninstall it. You have to hard reset your device to really undo whatever it does. I had the same problems you describe. After a cold boot, I could successfully initiate the bluetooth active sync and I could then install the patch which worked and allowed the bluetooth sync (if the activesync cluetooth bond was created before installing the Towa patch). Now, however, I upgraded to the 1.60 ROM which fixes the bluetooth serial driver issue and no longer needs the Towa patch.
After all that work, I generally still sync in the cradle, because I like to charge the battery in the cradle. Go figure.
Panabax
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi.
I have Orange SPV M1000.
I have tried to get it bonded to a Logitech diNovo keyboard on my PC.
By trying to add it to Settings | Connections | Connections | Advanced | Select Networks | New (internet) | New | (a name : abc, a modem: bluetooth) Next | New... | My_PCs_Name | Next | Name: my_pcs_name |Finish
Then the pops 2 requesters up
1.) This bluetooth device supports Serial port profile, would you like to create a Bluetooth serial port for it? (My answer: both yes or no)
2.) This bluetooth device supports headset profile, would you like to set it as your bluetooth headset? (My answer : No)
I have tried this when Connections | Bluetooth | was set to both "Discoverable" and "On"
but apparantly to no avail.
What I would have liked to work was:
1.) bluetooth activesync
2.) browsing via bluetooth from my PC's connections
3.) filetransfer via bluetooth (might go under activesync)
But I seem unable to get it to work.
Does anyonw have some ideas for this.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards: Jacob Eskildsen / eskildsen
there is no one around here seems to know this
i have been trying to do the exact thing for a few days now, had no joy at all.
there is not even one person using this kind of connection? or just do bother to tell.
I can make PC side working. Internet Connection Sharing bit, and I can even PING my PC from XDAII.
can somebody here help. if you really did this yourself
activesync and internet through bt
I just got activesync and internet working through bt . But I'm not sure how I did it . I have no extra bt software on my phone. I have a usb BT dongle (MSI) and I paired both of the devices. In all the settings I made sure internet sharing was allowed, on the BT network. In activesync in options - rules Pass through is ticked with connection to internet.
On the XDA started activesync through bt and my computer accepted it, and started to sync, the internet then started to work. i think active sync needs to be on for internet to work.
I don't really know the precise instructions, wish I did because i've just lost the connection again, and it will most probably take me another hour to work it out. think this time I better write it down!!!
If you could sync via Bluetooth, then browsing and file transfer via Bluetooth are possible. I've been able to do all of them. Just make sure you choose the ActiveSync profile when you pair your Pocket PC with the Bluetooth device on your desktop PC. If the ActiveSync profile is not available, then choose the Serial Port profile. But afterwards, you would have to go to ActiveSync Connection Settings and manually select the serial port you created.
thanks for advice
I've been having problems, like many people. And I've did what they did. Downloaded bt tools and its working excellent : ). I'm writing this on my xda2, downstairs from my computer. I'm well chuffed. Thanks for your quick reply, it seems your using bt tools too.
Am I ever going to get the hang of this!! BT Activesync ???
I'm able to get Activesync and thus internet through BT, but if I stop bluetooth on my XDA2, and then turn it back on and try to sync, I get an error message, stating Port not available.
What going on? how do I make this port avaliable. I thought I could turn BT on and off without problems, is this not the case. Is my computer configured wrong?
Help!!
Replying to myself!!
OK my problem has been solved, I just turn the BT off and on on my computer.
But what I really want, is to be able to not have to change anysetting on my computer. I would like to be able to enter my house and connect to BT, and then turn it off if I want, and then back on, and then off, on ,off, on..... You get the gist, without have to go upstair to my computer each time.
:twisted:
Any ideas :?
Hi,
Take a look at the guides for bluetooth ActiveSync'ing....
HERE
Thanks
Thank you for that Darius, i'd seen that guide before but forgot where it was. It has helped me to get activesync going anyway. I have actually hard rebooted my XDA2 because my Jabra BT200 stopped working, actually the phone software also buggered up. would ring people but they coud not hear me. Think it may have been BT Tools :roll: Which is a shame, I liked the desktop icons it gave.
At this moment in time I am in the process of restoring my data to my phone over BT, Just hope the BT200, will still work, because before it worked excellent a 100% of the time.
Ive read quite a few threads talking about changing the BT stack, for a more reliable one, but I'm worried about mucking the XDA2 up more.
My next worry is that I've ordered a BT GPS reciever, and I'm gonna try to get Tom Tom working with it, I'm sure I'm gonna have to read quite a few more posts to sort that out. I thought I was good on computers, I think I will have to rethink that altogether.
I have recently installed a bluetooth dongle to my desktop (Smart mdular Tech USB short range wireless). Try as I might, and I've read all the entries from other users for configs, short cuts, tricks - the lot - I still cannot get bluetooth active sync to work. The only thing I haven't tried is hard reset of my xda, which I am reluctant to do for severa reasons. To add insult to injury, now my pocket outlook and pocket IE will not recognise the GPRS connection and will not download. Any suggestions would be extremely helpful. Cheers. Guts :roll:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contenttypeid=2
have you followe these guides ?
when you say xda you mean xda2 right ?
The blue tooth dongle and XP sp2 are working - I've downloaded the appropriate drivers. The systems are paired - and I've continually tried the procedures for activating the bt activesync - I receive the same default message from my (yes, it is an) XDA 2. I have gone back through again to double check my settings, still no luck. Guts
i had a problem like that when i installed some version of vidcomm when i removed it anything worked just fine
you have to rebound with the pc of cause
and make sure that activesync is set to use the com port that the bluetooth is set to incomming
So far I have been unable to syncronise using bluetooth. I could do it without much sweat win pda2k (ba), but not with jasjar (universal) so far. Any other owner managed to figure out how to do it? Cheers.
Got it working no problem at all. In fact I managed this before I managed to get it working with USB.
I used the same method that one would use for any WM2003 device.
Set PDA to discoverable on JASJAR
Look for BT devices from PC
Select the JASJAR
Select BT serial port
Find out the COM port of this serial port. Note it down.
Fire up activesync
Change the connection settings to look on the com port you noted down.
On JASJAR got to BT settings
Add a BT device
Select your PC
Select Activesync partner
Go to activesync
Select synch via BT from the menu
i will try again
i prefer the wm2003 wizard to wm2005, i will see maybe i missed something. thanks for clear instructions
still problem with bluetooth
Well I still have been unable to get the bluetooth working for the syncing. I follow the instructions in the booklet and help files, + what I just been told, but there are two issues,
the serial port is for outgoing from the PC, so that could not be used.
In the Com ports tabs two com ports get assigned one for incoming and one for outgoing, with the BA, we use the incoming which we feed into the Activesync, and it works then.
If I do that and create a sync relationship on the pda, there is the option of assigning outgoing port from pda, however when relationship is created only the incoming serial is showing up...
anyways, i have no problem using bluetooth on BA, and could not get it to work on jasjar/htc univ.
Doesnt matter I dont mind using the cable, but dishing the equivalent of US$1400 for a pda whose wizards dont work properly is a bit of an anteclimax.
And talking about ergonomics, the virtual keyboard has the annoying tendency to cover what u are going to write, so u dont see what u are writing...
They also removed the Avantgo utility from the IE, but I got it back by installing the one for winCE and upgrading over...
So for now, I will keep working on my BA (pda2k) as I dont want to waste my time working around bugs, until these get ironed out.
Greetings
Nabil H
I hope all these bugs will be fixed after the official launch
working at last
i managed to get the bluetooth syncing, the secret
1. hard reset,
2. recognise device on pc side
3. create activesync partnership on pda side
4. check incoming com port on pc side
5. feed that to activesync on pc side
6. check activesync partnership from pda side with pc
7. pda will pick up on partnership serial connection as being activesync
8. incoming and outgoing com ports ready to be used on pda side
9. choose outgoing com port on pda same as incoming com port on pc
10. connection established syncing starts...
All this without starting using the usb cable (so different from BA method)...
hope it helps others...
probs... again
Now after setting up and synicng with bluetooth I used the usb link to sync, and it complained about an error. I had to remove the bluetooth setup, and it is still complaining, I give up
I guess the famous russian saying is very wise: "Better is the enemy of the good"
Nabil H out
bluetooth, usb link and wifi
No wonder bluetooth was turned off by default in this jasjar shipment. I believe the following are bugs:
1. U can set up activesync over bluetooth initially after a hard reset.
2. If you then set it up after over a usb link, u lose the bluetooth setting, and can only sync over bluetooth after a hard reset again!
3. If u set up bluetooth, u get difficulties with wifi not connecting (on my system I can only get that back by disabling my wifi connection then enabling it again, dont ask me why this is so, i do not have the foggest clue)
4. When ur wifi is worknig u start having problems with bluetooth connections.
5. Even with a bluetooth sync working, u cannot browse folders on ur jasjar device from another device, as this service does not seem to be implemented.
This does not look very good for users who have multiple/various network connections...
So a patch is already needed for these connectivity issues...
Developers, look into this please...
Greetings
Nabil H out
wifi and bluetooth - solved
I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).
wifi and bluetooth - solved
Nabil,
can you post what you did to get this working.
thanks.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I finally managed, after some sweat to get:
. Wifi and bluetooth working together
. Two pda's BA and Universal using wifi simultaneously.
However what cannot be done is:
. Using two pda's with activesync simultaneously, this is a limitation of MS Activesync.
Greetings
Nabil H
PS On club imate website there is now a faq fro JASRAR (HTC Univ).
Found a possible "solution" for some people who have been having problems estabishing a BT AS Partnership with their Universal and a host computer running AS. What I found was you may need to edit the registry to fix the problem. Here's what happened to me yesterday:
Morning: Hard reseted my device and installed all my software apps at my work computer via AS in USB mode as a Guest. Note: I have not set up a partnership with any computer (either USB or BT).
Evening: Got in my truck and paired my JasJar to my BT GPS receiver via a BT Serial Port. Used TomTom and navigated home.
Late Evening: Got home. I wanted to set up a BT AS Partnership first so I went through the procedures of pairing my device and my home computer. And guess what, it didn't work. My JasJar would not see that AS was an available option on my home computer (NOTE: Before Hard Resetting my device in the morning, I had previously established a BT AS Partnership with my JasJar so I know my machine supported that profile). What the @?#~! Ok. I did a search of the word "sync" through the registery. Came up with an interesting issue. Under the registry entry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\ActiveSync\
In that directory I saw a folder listed as: 000a3a051d0f (This folder is specific to my device (more below)). I was wondering what this was since I did not have any BT ActiveSync Profiles set up yet. When I looked in it, I realized immediately that this is the Device Profile for my GPS RECEIVER!!!! What the hell was it doing in this directory I asked myself. So I deleted the folder 000a3a051d0f from the directory:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\ActiveSync\
And guess what? I was able to establish a partnership via BT immediately!!!
So the bottom line is....
If you're having problems using the MS BT Stack to set up a BT Sync Partnership, you may want to check this directory and see if the BT Stack accidently put a BT Device in this directory that should not belong there. My guess is that when I paired my BT receiver and set up a communication link via a BT Serial Port, the MS BT Stack thought that it was a device capable of an activesync partnership. Hope this helps some folks.
Justin
Thanks a loooooot.
Tried everything else first, but your solution worked like a charm!