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Whenever I soft reset the device the memory card is not picked up, or only half the directories are picked up, and I have to pop it out and back in again for it to recognise everything correctly..
I am running 1.72 and we have three imates here at my work and they all behave like this.
Sometimes the Storage Card just seems to vanish even when there was no reset and the card has to be ejected and reloaded to pick it up again! This occurs daily for me (only had the device 4 days though) and one of the other guys here says it hapens quite frequently to him too!
Is this common behaviour for the imate/xda2 ???
I had similar problems with my SD card in my XDA2 (1.66.00wwe), i took out the card and formatted it a few times in my PC and so far it dosent seem to have happened again. This problem originally occurred in my ipaq 4150 so im not sure whether it was card related or not. There's an application called Pocket Mechanic which can run tests on SD cards, might be worth running that to see if it picks up anything. If you need a copy of it you can "borrow" mine.
mmm, no problems with pocket mechanic test!
Might back up data on card and try a low level format through PocketMechanic and see if that helps, but it is strange we have multiple devices and cards here (my work) all with the same behaviour. My Card and imate are both brand new..
Might be of interest: what brand of cards are you using?
There ARE issues with SD cards, mostly related to data transferrate.
Some brands are fast (ie KingMax i read) some are very slow (ie Kingston/Toshiba i noticed)
I bought a Fujifilm 512MB SD card off ebay for a silly low price, originally blamed my problems down to that fact but it seems to be ok now.
It is a Sandisk card (256mb) so VERY slow
Not sure if it is related, but I had an issue with mine, where I could read the SD Card in my PC, but not in my XDAII, unless I pushed it very firmly down, holding it in place.
It turned out to be dirty connections on the Card. With a bit of a clean (with a Screwdriver), everything works again!
Ian
FYI - a pencil eraser is the best thing to use to clean contacts on PC boards, memory cards, etc. It is only mildly abrasive but does a great job of removing grime, etc.
HTH
Browsenow - excellent idea. In fact it comes close to my blue-tack inventions. Well done!
Jupiter - Thanks! I have adapted pencil erasers to another problem for which your solution was BluTack . . . the missing external aerial cover. I found a pencil eraser that was the same diameter as the aerial (antenna for those of us in the US) connector hole, chopped it off and inserted it. It has the added benefit of being firm and slightly longer than the hole, so it provides stability when the device is laying on the desk.
Oh well . . . I guess I need to find something more interesting to fill my days . . . like making my imate work as a TV remote so I don't have to wrench the actual remote from the Mrs. :wink:
Are you trying to say that the rubber solution is better than the blue-tack solution! I vouchsafed you the honour of saying that it came close. Dont throw that back at me. !
Blue-Tack is better because
1. Its sticky
2. Its blue
3. You can use it to stick things
4. In an emergency you can take it out of the XDA and stick a note to the fridge
5. In the event of being bored you can make a baby teddy with it
What can rubber do apart from rub. :roll:
It was a 'good' idea but lets keep it at that
First of all, you did not say it was a 'good' idea - in fact you said it was an 'excellent' idea. As for BluTack . . . if you use it too many times it will be neither blue nor sticky!
As for the eraser, it is better because -
1. It is firm
2. It is NOT blue
3. It can erase things
4. In an emergency you can . . . um, you can . . . :?
5. In the event of being bored you can use it to CARVE a baby teddy - well a really tiny one!
Ha! Long live the eraser 8)
Now your just being silly!
Where are my blue-tack buddies when I need them?
They have all abandoned you and are out searching for various sizes, shapes and colors (colours?) of ERASERS!
They should start their search here: http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=507053
I've only had the Exec for a week and I've had to secure the SD card a few times where it's been accidentally been clicked out. I've just tried to save a doc and noticed that it's missing! :evil: :evil: :evil:
What a crud design. Surely there should be a cover over the memory card slot?
I do love my Exec, but right now I could launch it out the window!!! :evil:
Sorry, just had to vent!
BTW, great forum. Loads of useful info for a new user.
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
Hey Vijay,
I think you're right. I'll do that, just as soon as I get my new card. At least I've got a good excuse to get a 2gb card now. :wink:
Jud
Guys, this might be a problem in need of a good solution either way. Just looked into my slot (!) and there's a lot of dust. Although the slot looks enclosed internally, we had big problems with SPV phones getting dusty through open slots in the old days...
V
I've absolutely no problems with my Qtek 9000, the SD-card is firmly fitted within the device.
When I want to remove it I have to press firmly and push it back at least 1,5 mm so I'm not afraid of losing it.
Maybe it is a problem with your device?
vijay555 said:
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
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Or maybe this.
Just for my 1gb card protection and answering the phone like the xda2 ( without opening it).
Hye, don't get me wrong, I don't use this idea myself, because I switch SD and wireless (between my magician and universal).
But I think generally, a small rubber flap over the SD flap would have been a good design. I think the Orange models have this feature.
V
This happend to me days after I got mine. The problem is that the SD slot is on the bottom. You put it in a pocket that has something in it, coins keys postage stamps , and it depresses the SD card. You pull it out your pocket not realizing and the SD card falls out. :evil:
Cya
Stot
Right, I got my Vario II a couple of days ago. Its great, but I was wondering something - could I cut to fit my Oyster card to sit underneath the battery cover? Anyone tried this? Does anyone know how much I can trim off of the card? Would be great to just get the phone out to swipe with!
Cheers
Chris
I can't even fit a spare 1Gb MicroSD under it without the cover bulging, so I doubt an Oyster card would fit without some major mod's. You can't trim much (if any) off it, the RF coils are pretty much all the way around the edges of the card. Great idea though!
I just put my Oyster card next to the SD spacer(don't have a Micro SD card yet) and they are about the same thickness. I thought it might be the case with the coils, which is pretty annoying as the card really isn't far off fitting in. Any ideas if there are any pics showing a kinda 'xray' of the Oyster?
haha, you copying the Japanese on this? They too have the equivalent of Oyster cards (Suica, much more advanced with online usage if you have a card reader attached to your computer) which can be integrated into their mobiles. In fact, I do wonder if the technology of the 2 systems are teh same
I'm sure there must be a way to cut up the oyster card so that only the data bit remains? Anyone got a spare fiver to dissect an oyster card?
Oyster is a standard Mifare card.
Although I've not seen "inside" the oyster - a mifare card has a coil slightly larger than the size of a 50p in the centre - with the chip either inside or outside of the coil.
N
Right fellows I have tried to search nearly an hour to find-out what’s & where the chip is inside the Oyster but no joy, finally I have tried one another card to just give it a try and I am sadly declaring that it is NOT possible at all to sandwich the oyster card between the battery & its cover (I have tried on my XDA-IIi -- Alpine), even though I have tried to press the cover so hard that the sliding latches could break in a split second. Check the pictures.
Sidd
So why would you want to take out your highly desirable phone in a crowded tube station?
Do you need the insurance money?
Maybe you could attach credit cards to a lanyard, hang them from the phone and have your PIN number tattooed to your forehead.
Anyway I am carrying my oyster in the card slot of my XDA-IIi's leather pouch and touching the pouch on the scanner every day, works fine for me.
I think this is more secure from the prying eyes and for the scratch protection of the device.
Sidd
i would say yes, with some modification. check out this link if you are still interested. I plan to do this for my Hero in the coming weeks
http://www.skeptobot.com/2008/05/time-lapse-vid-of-dissolving-oyster.html
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I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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luppy said:
Hi
I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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did you insert the microSD with contacts upside?
I had a similar problem when I first inserted a brand new A-Data 2GB MicroSD. But I've managed to take it back finally, gently pushing and popping it in and out. Then I've found superfluous plastic on the card, removed it, and since then there are no problems. So don't worry about the slot itself until you're sure it is broken
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
jeffreyj900 said:
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
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If you put it the card in upside down it goes in crooked. If you force it you risk breaking the card.
If you push the card in all the way it clicks gently as it slips in then is retained. If you push the card gently with your fingernail it should go in slightly then pop out.
If you push it in and it goes in by a mm or so but doesn't pop out then something is holding it back. You can try with some needles or safety pins either side to try and ease the card out....
Good Luck. Scary when you've invested so much into these things when they break
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Dave,
You are a VERY SMART man! I really appreciate that. Mine is a 2gb SanDisk as well. I have a Cingular 8525. I had it in the correct way, and was able to use the card just fine. It bothered me that I could not get it out though. I really appreciate the response! Oh... I removed the made in Tiawan sticker on the back of the card to see if that would help. It did not, but did expose some copper looking stuff like at the end of the card. No big deal
Jeff
Dead SanDisk.
I also had the problem of a stuck 2Gb Sandisk card in a Vario II.
The card was displaying the same problems described in Legolas's card fix thread, (files disappearing or innaccessable) so I was going to check it on my PC.
Unfortunately, in the process of gently persuading it to come out, I appear to have completely killed it! (Unrecognisable in phone, PC or camera.)
I'm going to try painting the contacts on the card with silver paint in case they're not making contact, but I don't fancy digging inside the phone to bend the contacts there.
Any thoughts anyone?
In the meantime I'll wait and see if the 4Gb card is compatible with the Hermes before I order a replacement.
Is this a problem with Sandisk cards, I wonder? Had no problems at all with a 1Gb Kinston card... pop in a new Sandisk 2Gb, and sticks. Didn't shave off any plastic though, just caught hold of the groove on the edge with a fingernail and pulled on it enough to seat it into the proper 'inserted' position.
After inserting it in the slot a few times, it seems to click into place as it should
@dmj1973: Have you updated the Wiki with the info on ejecting a stuck card? Would be useful to have it there, if it isn't already
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Excellent solution.
I've got a 2 gb SanDisk in a Vodafone 1605 with no insertion/removal problems.
(hee, in past life got quite adept at dismantling my iPaq 5555 to get stuck adapters out)
GG
Hi guys,
Just a quick update. I had a further look at my card. I also removed the "made in Taiwan" sticker. My card ejects and inserts fine now.
Your right about the "contacts" being exposed, though i suspect this won't matter too much as they are covered again once they are inserted into the phone.
I don't believe this to be a problem only with sandisk cards but i may be wrong.
Dave
it seems that im a lucky dog because i have never got this problem with my softbank device and kingmax 1g tfcard.
anyhow thx the info upstairs
dmj1973 you saved my day!
today my transcent 16gb microsd arrived. i took the (kind of useless) 128mb out of my acer m900, and suddenly i wasnt able to get either of my micro sd's back into the device! it always jammed half way in ... drove me ****ing crazy thinking my new pda already broke :/ wasted the half day beeing mad until i found this thread! i red until "battery" ... then instantly removed the cover/battery etc, and my cards no longer jammed! -can get them in&out gently again thx 2 you!
seaser
Dear friends, I have my Advantage for three days with me (I am very happy with it), but today I wanted to install the mini sd card, and for my surprise, the card adaptor does not fit into the Advantage slot!!!
The adaptor is Sandisk brand...I'm really desperate. Anybody with similar problem? Please, I really appreciate your help....
Are you sure you have it in the right way? Label side down dude...
Yes, label side down, golden contacts up...I'm really shocked how can HTC sell a product with this MAJOR flaw!...Tell me my friend, you can put the card on slot easily or you have to do some force, or special positioning etc..Just to figure it out..
mine just glides in easy. i have a transflash (microsd)card with a minisd adapter. are you sure its a mini sd
Sometimes it takes a second to find the right angle but it slides it with no almost no force at all.
I can't believe that this is true too. Mine slides in and out easily without problem. If it does not fit, it is probably a fake card, or you have not inserted it the right way.
this may seem like a stupid question but theres not a card or blank one in there already is there?
what do you mean by card adaptor? the minisd doesnt need an adaptor to fit in the athena
ROTFLMAO LOL LOL LOL
Yeah right, like HTC got the mini SD slot wrong, by accident. EITHER
1) YOU are doing it wrong
or
2) YOUR card is a cheap fake and the wrong proportions !
there is not really any scope for anything other than the above ! either way the problem is with you not with your phone.
Pics !
Please : First , came down !...take it easy.
Second : Please take some pictures , post and there ...all cann see your trouble .
When you,re say...mini SD adaptor , what you try to say ? .
Advantage have a mini SD slot , im like much others ...use a Micro SD with mini SD adaptor.It,s true that in a forst time is not easy find the righ position...but . PLEASE dont force ..maybe you can broke something.
Please..Take some pictures and post again.
All Have solution...some hard...or some easy...but all have !
Waiting your pictures.
FranCoke.
i seriously doubt if htc actually shipped out a product that has a faulty card slot. i'm sorry but i agree with the others. aside from this, you did say:
"Yes, label side down, golden contacts up.."
do you mean that when inserting the card the words "mini sd" or whatever's on the label is on the underside? and that the copper contacts are facing upwards? if yes, then you're inserting the card wrong. the copper leads are supposed to be on the bottom while the label is facing up.
or unless you bought one of those cards used for ericsson phones...
i use both mini sd and microsd with mini adaptor on my unit...and i've never had this issue before
Do Sandisk make a Micro SD to Mini SD adapter? - all I have got are Micro SD to full size SD adaptors and these most certainly will not fit the Athena - Mike
mikealder said:
Do Sandisk make a Micro SD to Mini SD adapter? - all I have got are Micro SD to full size SD adaptors and these most certainly will not fit the Athena - Mike
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Yes, Sandisk does make a micro to mini adapter (I have one).
I had a similar problem and went for a "Mini" SD not a "Micro Mini" or an adapter type. Just make sure you have a "Mini" card and not a Micro with an adapter...TJ
Thank you guys for your replies. Well, I'm not insane ..
Thanks TrekkerJmm comment, who has the same problem, at least I have a hope, so I should get a minisd and try, seems the adaptor (microsd to minisd) is causing the problem. I took the pictures, sorry my camera stinks.
Also, when I was considering to buy the Advantage, I have read about a folk who had to return his unit due the same problem (I can't find the post right now, can't remember what forum was it)...
I really can't understand why HTC don't just include a regular sd slot...anyway, I hope I can find a solution...
I read about it too. He had to send his athena back for repairs.
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I read about it too. He had to send his athena back for repairs.
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Maybe the one the fellow sent back for repair was replaced with a refurb and the returned one has now made it back to the top of the replacement pool!
Brad
youre trying to put a real sd card into a mini sd slot.
[edit] sorry for the previous harshness[/edit]
I'm digging a hole and put my head on it...the adapter I'm using is for minisd to full sd....I AM A FOOOOLLLLLL
Gulpppp
Thanks....(back to my hole)
Don't feel bad..as long as you got it working that's all that matters.. ...TJ