Hi All
This is for the Imate III users and gurus out there.
After much teeth gnashing, hair pulling and Im sure a few new wrinkles Ive come to this conclusion.
The Imate III appears to lock the today item registry key preventing modification of today settings even though you have deselected the today item. This seems to be locked until such times as you soft reset the device.
In some cases this effectively leaves the key in place even after the removal of the item using remove programs.
A couple of people have highlighted this when trying to upgrade from one version to a later version of software. Wouldnt have been noticable except that I changed where I installed the application from the Windows directory to its own directory under Program Files.
What appears to be the fix is to deselect the plugin from the today screen. Then soft reset, then remove the program. After all this then install the new version.
BTW the Imate II doesnt have this problem. You still cant delete the programs main key until soft reset but the today manager does do its thing correctly in the today item part of the registry.
Any suggestions of what might be causing this and what would be the best way to tackle this would be very appreciated.
Cheers
Bretto
Firstly, id like to say that ive had my exec for a little over a week now and think that it is awesome. Think my girlfriend is going to dis-own me :?
Searched the net for info on this problems with no luc for hours. Plus tried all the usual (Install, Uninstall, Reset, Hard Reset, Hammer!!! :wink: )
SPB Pocket Plus Problems I Had: -
Indicators do not change on theme change. (Grrr!)
Cycle theme button not working properly.
Cycle theme then change theme in today and crashes.
:roll: SPBsoftwarehouse are now aware of these problems and are attempting to make a fix. Frustrating as forked the cash out thinking i was getting a nice WM5.0 app that would not have these kind of blatent bugs. :x
The reply i got from SPB is as follows: -
Dear Thor,
There are some challenges with themes on WM5 devices.
When you choose theme through today setting indicators doesn't change.
And if you change theme using theme loop button, taskbar and command
bar doesn't changes. We are working on this. Now you can't first choose
theme through theme loop. Then switch to some other and back using theme
settings. We will try to find how to fix this in following releases.
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I have found a way to manually change the indicator icons by looking in the \windows directory where i placed the extended themes, then copy all file with a prefix of pls_ to \Program Files\PocketPlus\default. Then remove vga_pls... files from here. Then add vga_ to the beginning of the pls_ files you just copied in eg pls_backlight.gif to vga_pls_backlight.gif.
After resetting, you will now see the new indicators appear.... wooohoo.
If anyone has found a better way, please let us know...
Peace and out, Thor... :twisted:
The O2 active interface software(V2r O2ActiveUI v4.0) is really rubbish, I can not remove it, every time I tried, I got the information that the remove was not complete. I will be very appreciate that someone can give me some idea to remove that software. Thanks
Hi,
You have hard reset or remove the battery, then when you start up do a basic install this will help you a lot and also do some tweks for battery such as disable the error reporting etc look for the performans for XDA EXEC
Best
HowlingWolf
Kosova
thanks
But ater I hard reset, there is no choice for the basic install, I have to install the O2 software.
@mobilewolf,
From Programs you should see a number of O2 apps. Do you see one called (I think) just "O2"? If you do run this and you will see a screen that has three options including: Basic and Corporate. You should see this screen when you re-start after a hard reset (which you can do by running the app called "Clear Storage"). I personally recommend the Corporate option and when it asks for a code input 0506 using the on-screen number pad
jah said:
@mobilewolf,
From Programs you should see a number of O2 apps. Do you see one called (I think) just "O2"? If you do run this and you will see a screen that has three options including: Basic and Corporate. You should see this screen when you re-start after a hard reset (which you can do by running the app called "Clear Storage"). I personally recommend the Corporate option and when it asks for a code input 0506 using the on-screen number pad
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Got it, Thanks a lot.
Could you tell what is the advantage for the Corporate option, I am the new person with the XDA Exec.
Thanks
Start Menu\Programs\Install Type, lets you select Personal, Basic or Corporate.
Choose basic. This does not install the O2Active UI. However, there are a couple of other things that need to be done. In the \Windows\Startup folder there are a number of links. If you leave them all there, you will get a nag screen when you reboot your Exec. The safest thing is to remove them to a backup folder. These links are:
Active.lnk - O2 UI.
BatteryNFO.lnk - Battery symbol on Title Bar.
Connections.exe.lnk - Displays O2 symbol on Title Bar.
Reboot your Exec.[/list][/list]
Splatt! said:
Start Menu\Programs\Install Type, lets you select Personal, Basic or Corporate.
Choose basic. This does not install the O2Active UI. However, there are a couple of other things that need to be done. In the \Windows\Startup folder there are a number of links. If you leave them all there, you will get a nag screen when you reboot your Exec. The safest thing is to remove them to a backup folder. These links are:
Active.lnk - O2 UI.
BatteryNFO.lnk - Battery symbol on Title Bar.
Connections.exe.lnk - Displays O2 symbol on Title Bar.
Reboot your Exec.[/list][/list]
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Thanks a lot, it is really helpful
I am trying to remove the bottom bar that is normally removed by deleting wifiinit.lnk and init_tray.lnk from startup...problem is they arent in startup. And when looking at the remove programs list there are no programs. Any suggestions?
Tell us what you have in windows\startup and post copies of the link files if possible, then some bright spark in the forum may be able to work it out for you :wink:
batti
dcinobar
inclose mobile
poutlook
voice command
nickcerda said:
batti
dcinobar
inclose mobile
poutlook
voice command
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Looks like all the usual links have gone now except poutlook - which many say can be deleted anyhow. They must be using another initiation method - have you checked \windows to see if you have init_tray.exe if you have try a trick i use with clear storage. Make a text file with any text in does not matter - save as init_tray.txt then rename to init_tray.exe and paste it into windows using total commander. Result init_tray.exe will not work. Works with clearstorage.exe and I get no error message. If you do get an error message replace with an exe that does nothing - I hope you get my drift :wink:
EDIT Possibly you could replace it with dcinobar.exe or inclose mobile.exe i.e. rename the exe's and then remove the startup link to the app as this app will be started instead of init_tray.exe
Actually I thought of something similar to that already, but guess what... no init_tray.lnk or .exe and no wifiinit.lnk or .exe anywhere on the device according to resco explorer search. Thank you for the great idea though. Do you or anyone else have any other ideas?
Maybe something to do with it?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Launch99"="\\Windows\\SAPSettings.exe"
"Depend50"=hex:14,00,1E,00
"Depend20"=hex:0A,00
"Launch10"="shell.exe"
"Launch80"="srvtrust.exe"
"Depend70"=hex:1E,00
"Launch70"="connmgr.exe"
"Launch50"="shell32.exe"
"Depend61"=hex:32,00,3C,00
"Launch61"="ciphase2.exe"
"Depend21"=hex:14,00
"Launch21"="coldinit.exe"
"Depend30"=hex:15,00
"Depend60"=hex:14,00
"Launch60"="services.exe"
"Launch30"="gwes.exe"
"Launch20"="device.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init\BootVars]
"MasterKeyFileDir"="\\windows"
"DBFlags"=dword:00010000
"Flags"=dword:00000005
"RequireCertMod"=dword:00000001
"ProfileDir"="Documents and Settings"
"SystemHive"="Documents and Settings\\system.hv"
TyTN now uses services
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
Delete the registry key...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
You are awesome! Do you have a TyTn or is that for other phones also?
Just received my TyTN today.
The first thing I did was figure out how to get rid of those tray icons!
Actually, if you look at the following post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968) you will find many hacks that are not restricted to the Universal but work on all WM5 machines, inluding the TyTN. I am using a few of the myself on my TyTN
i'm about 200 to $250 short from getting one feel free to donate! I go to This ebay posting every day and just DROOOL over it... again, donations welcome..
better yet, i got a deal! For the amount of that device with shipping which is $779 + $29.99 which comes out to $829.99, (lets just make it $830 flat) I'll throw in my working wizard which has 2 scruffs on the front(comes complete with box, i-mate warranty, headset, case.. basicly everything in the box except the extra stylus), a wizard with a damaged screen, an xbox 360 premium. (just the xbox360 itself, no power supply, no hard drive, no controller (i'll give u a couple demo discs)) AND.... a like new Sony PSP with like 3 or 4 games (i maybe played the thing 10 times since i bought it, its been nesting in its oem case for god knows how long.)
PM me if you'll take me up on that offer
Re: TyTN now uses services
Freshster said:
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
Delete the registry key...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
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I don't think that just removing the icons removes that space that the bar takes up, does it?
:?:
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JNGold said:
I don't think that just removing the icons removes that space that the bar takes up, does it?
:?:
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Yes, removing the icons removes the tray space.
Try it.
Wiz said:
Actually, if you look at the following post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968) you will find many hacks that are not restricted to the Universal but work on all WM5 machines, inluding the TyTN. I am using a few of the myself on my TyTN
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Very good link. Thanks Wiz!
Looking at the "HIDEWIRELESSMGRICON.cab" in that link, it shows that you can disable the Wireless Manager Icon by simply changing a single registry entry instead of deleting the whole WirelessMgr key.
To update my directions...
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
"Keep"=dword:00000000
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
I have tested these and both work perfectly.
Intellisync 7.0 and Tytn
Hi,
Since I've installed this new version of this software I've been using for a long time now each time I soft reset my device I got stuck on the windows mobile blue background. I can get pass it!!!
Now the good news is via activsync I can still connect to my device and explore it. I can also remove the software (intellisync) and this will let me regain access to my device.
The problem is I can't live without Intellisync so I end up reinstalling it evrytime.
The problem is link (I guess) to the security screen which replaces the default winm 5 one.
Questions :
1 where can I find a step-by-step description of the boot process ?
2 What is the name of the security app object ?
3 Who could help ???
Many Thanks
REMOVE bottom tray on 8525 (mobile 5)
I seen lots of articles about how to remove or turn off bottom tray, but none work. I have similar problem as this user: No intTRay of anykind is found, my startup folder contents are similar to his. I've removed the individual icons like battery, etc, but I need to get rid of the animated today icon, the the Animated Today program puts on the tray, so the tray will disappear...
any ideas?
I may be wrong but the last time I checked, the 8525(TyTN) is not a Wizard.
dharvey4651 said:
I may be wrong but the last time I checked, the 8525(TyTN) is not a Wizard.
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Yep, you are correct. The Tytn is the big brother to the Wizard, which is known as the 8125, not the 8525.
Reposted
I posted this question in the Hermes forum, which I think is the right place?
thanks,
ck
Freshster said:
Very good link. Thanks Wiz!
Looking at the "HIDEWIRELESSMGRICON.cab" in that link, it shows that you can disable the Wireless Manager Icon by simply changing a single registry entry instead of deleting the whole WirelessMgr key.
To update my directions...
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
"Keep"=dword:00000000
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
I have tested these and both work perfectly.
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Thnx a lot man. i've been thinking that this thing is impossibla on my cingular 8525. but U proved that there are still people who know good methods on how to work w/ registry!
Hi all,
on my o2 xda mini s / wizard. the today screen has a menu bar on the left part of the screen with shortcuts etc, which i really dont like.
ive been searching through the forums to find out how to get rid of this and but have only come up with changing the Rom on my phone to an unbranded one.
is there a way to get rid of this menu bar, without having to change my ROM from the o2 preset one, as messing with ROMS seems a little daunting to me.
thanks.
What you have there is O2 active (Not the web version), That comes in the O2 ROM. I did a basic install after a hard reset and it only shows up if I press the O2 active icon in programs, if i soft reset it goes. Might work for you? if not perhaps it is starting up after a soft reset? look in the \windows\startup folder to check. If so move it and if it works after another soft reset then delete it.
Hope this is of some use.
This forum is the best place to look for advice, just requires a lot of reading and bookmarking.
perfect! exactly what i was looking for.
thanks a lot!