:?: hi, was thinking of buying xda2 but there is a stupid rule in my work place which does not allows any imaging device (xda included) to enter into the working enviorment.
so i was thinking, can the camera be physically removed (diy) or at least can it be disable using software or hardware (ie: disconnecting the wires to the camera) ... ??
i really like xda2 and i am tired of xda1 ... and one to help?
by the way, does this forum teaches how to open up a xda2? ...
regards
almondking[/b]
The camera software is located in the extended rom part of the installation procedure. If you were to modify the extended rom to remove that CAB file (or just not let the autorun that installs those files run after a hard reset (i.e. soft reset it before it has a chance to run those files) then you would not be able to access the camera at all from the device (your work can inspect it all they'd like). This way you don't have to mod your xda ii and can always replace the cab later if you want to use the camera.
Jon.
sounds good ...
sounds like a good idea~ ,... no software, can't work!~ next problem, if i do not want to flash my phone, wat can i do to prevent the camera software from installing, i mean can i uninstall it from the rom or something like this ... ?
Youcould unlock the extended rom, back it up then delete the camera cab, however I doubt very much whether your security conscious company accept your word that the camera cannot be operated. Maybe you should get an xda1 for work.
unlocking the extended rom?
sorry, was relatively new to this xda2 thing ... how and wat do i need for unlocking the extended rom? opening up the xda2 and pluging out the camera will be the last thing i wanted to do ...
maybe i should change my job ... hehe ...
I really don't think the company would object if they saw that there was no way to access the camera portion through software. There is a program here called EREdit2003 that can backup / modify extended ROMs.
I would deffinetly NOT open up the phone for a variety of reasons - especially warrenty - Nothing is worth voiding a warrenty on a multi-hundred dollar phone.
Jon.
Oh, just thought of this very low-tech solution:
buy an XDA I Krusell case for it - it covers the camera lens. If your company isn't too savvy on inspecting it (i.e. they don't care to take off the case) than this could work as well. Obviously a long shot if your company is so security minded - but you never know.
why don't you buy an imate from KSA they come from the maifacurar without a camera option, not even a place for it
There are 2 ways not to activate the camera:
- The easist way: You can set the button 3 to "none" in settings/buttons. If you don't like to see the camera icon in program windows: go to windows/start up/programs and delete the link file (camera.lnk)
:lol: - Second way: Do not install the CAB software from the extended ROM. It can be done by: delete the file in config.txt. Other way, you rename the autorun file to .ex1 and run cab file manually after hardreset your XDAII
Thanks a lot guys!
Thanks a lot for all these help! finally got the xda2 today at S$1398 with a line to the local telco (w/o line is S$1598).
have yet to explore the device ... but i'm very sure i can display the camera function with so much help from you guys!~
the option about getting a leather case w/o the hole for camera is out .. the security guard at my work place are not so dumb .. hehe, they remove the leather case and check. ... some other guy had already tried that before .. it won't work ^^
jon's method sounds eziest! using EREdit2003 to edit the rom, i hope it'll work, anyone tried before? and by the way, jon, do you have the program? thanks in advance~
sonadt's method sounds great too .. deleting the link and disable the hot button ... but if i use file explorer to find the camera .exe file, will i be still able to activate the camera? i suspose so ... as for the 2nd method, 'not installing the cab' - sounds like a big task to me. in short, does it means that i need to flash the rom?
thanks a lot [email protected]~ you all are great! long live to this forum ^^
If you make the extended rom visible and editable you can remove the cab file and also the link as described, you will then have zero access to the camera as the software is not present to process/drive the hardware.
One easy way of uninstalling the camera software is to perform a hard-reset and just before the ROM autoinstaller starts perform a soft-reset, when it comes back you will have a normal Pocket PC minus the software that auto installs. But if for some reason you need to install the rest of the software that comes in the phone you can always install that by hand (minus the camera .cab of course), but for that you need to perform a small hack to be able to see the Extended Rom, there is an installer around here (forgot the name) that let's you uncover the extended rom section of your device and manually install the .cabs.
On the other hand, a disabled camera is still a camera, so chances are your security staff will not allow it inside anyways since it's almost like trying to get a regular camera in the premises but without film, they will not allow it no matter what.
But good luck and let us know what happened.
Regards,
Rayan
Although this won't apply to the initial poster now, but for future reference, Saudi Arabia sells the Imate here without the Camera, it is manufactured like that especially for them. It retails at approx $850 here, if anyone is interested I can look into places that take on-line orders.
imate??
imate = xda2 without camera?? SeRIouS?!~ wonder when can i buy it ... thanks a lot for all the ppl that gave me the solution!
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Its a bit of a long story, but in a nutshell I HATE the o2 default software so very much, so when I did a hear reset on my phone I made sure to rapidly hit cancel so that none of it installed.
Unfortunately I didn’t account for it not installing than camera! I have heard of a technique called Extended Rom Unlocking - how would I go about this? I have looked at a few guides on this board and downloading a few bits of software to read it but they all come up blank and their open dialogue will not allow me to open a file direct from the device. Searching for the common names of the rom files pulled up nothing either
Please can someone explain in layman’s terms how I can get my camera app back or if there is any other camera software on the market?
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8422 for the unlocker. Unlock the extended rom and then you can see the cabs in Extended ROM and copy the camera one out and then tap it to install.
that worked a treat, thanks
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that worked a treat, thanks
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Good news!
ok here is the challenge, now some of us know the horror of a lost or stolen phone. Who has it? Where is it? Can i track it? Well thats where this challenge comes in. We all know about the extended rom , most people dont think that u can mess with this but actually you can. For those who dont know what the extended rom is, it a file folder that contains all the cab files that are used to restore your pda back to factory preinstalled. Well i know that using some programs you can actually edit or delete files in this folder. What i propose or challenge the coders to see if they can come up with a cab file or program that can be placed into the E.R. so that if someone hard resets the pda, that when it comes back and resets it would set off the cab file to collect information like the phone number of the new sim card the thieves put in the stolen unit, and or any other info that can be used to track this device. to email it or say call you at a certian time. Point is that if you can get the number of the person that has your phone, you can get it traced and at least get the cops to go to the address that the new sim card is registered to.
Wow, I like that idea.
I was actually coding it so that the first thing it would do is execute a full-screen lock and you'd have to enter a preset passcode. The only way to get around anything in the Extended ROM though is by performing a soft-reset during the 3-second pause.
The problem with the current WM5 HTC devices (Wizard, Universal, and Apache) is that they have a digital signature feature enabled by default. So I can't hack the Autorun (even if I could) to bypass the 3-second pause, since that would break the authentication of the digital signature.
I could, however, disable the security on the Wizard and Universal with a digitally-signed CAB file found in the Apache's Extended ROM...
If someone could teach me how to access the SIM, that would be key...
Um, am I missing something or isn't this what IIWPO does (for the WM2003/SE devices anyway)? As soon as someone changes the owner info. and puts in a new SIM, it SMS's you the details - I already have it installed in my ext.ROM.
For the WM2005 devices it might not work but it's currently protecting my XdaII.
can you provide a link for iipwo
no sim
doesnt seem like that program access the sim, it seems that it relys on the new owner to input their information, but how many of us actually do that. i dont for sure. so if the new owner doesnt imput their contact info then there is no way of finding them, where as i propose to make come up with a way to read the sim and get the phone number, that way its definatly going to get them
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It's here on xda-dev, just search. Oh, and it's iiWPo not iipwo.
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doesnt seem like that program access the sim, it seems that it relys on the new owner to input their information, but how many of us actually do that. i dont for sure. so if the new owner doesnt imput their contact info then there is no way of finding them, where as i propose to make come up with a way to read the sim and get the phone number, that way its definatly going to get them
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They don't need to, all it does is compare the existing text (or lack of) with the stored value (your own), then gets any data and sends it. If nothing else you'll get the phone number as part of the SMS. If they DO enter info (and most people I know do, just in case it is returned if lost), then you get that too.
You also get the satisfaction of slowly racking up their bill for them if they are charged for SMS and if they query it and the telco starts to ask questions about where the 'faulty' handset came from or suggests it goes for repair... Gotcha!
wm5
isnt this only for WM 2003? has anyone got this to Work on a WiZard ?
if someone steals/finds a wizard then what are the chances they will know how to or even if you can hard reset it? and the ones "in the know" might just install a new/default rom image overwriting whats on the modified ext rom.
what you need is something that executes on maybe the 2nd or 3rd incorrect pin number entry.
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thats not true , u can get a manual at imate to show u how to hard reset. but there is no manual unless u read these kind of forums. most theives are crack heads that just take the phone to see if they can sell it for money. no knoledge of these devices
what i mean is there is no manual to enter the extended rom unless u read these kinda forum, we are fanatics
iiwpo relies on security by obscurity.
It works quite well on Walaby and Himalay.
If put into extROM it will be installed after hard reset as well (but since it is not signed the user wil get the ability to cancel in WM5.
I am planning to test its functionality on WM5 with my new Wizard.
BTW: Anyone allready has a ExtROM editor to bypass the read-only protection in newer ROMs?
[Update Nov 7: Universal too! Use VJLumosLite]
All,
If you follow this thread you’ll see discussion of the bizarre behaviour of the Magician’s screen when you start the camera; the screen momentarily goes whiter than white, nay, SuperBright. However, this level of brightness has been hidden from us in normal use.
I have developed a technique for using this SuperBright mode. I’m not too proud of it, because it’s an “ugly hack”, meaning a bit of a cheat. The ideal way to do this would be to reverse engineer the camera program, camera driver or screen driver and find out how it does this. I didn’t do this. I basically trick the system into thinking the camera is always running, hence always SuperBright.
Now, it basically works. However, and I cannot stress this enough, IT IS DANGEROUS.
Initially, I accept no responsibility for use of this program on your hardware.
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I don’t know the effect of running your screen so bright for prolonged periods. However, it’s basically just enabling the camera, so if the camera works SuperBright safely, I guess this should too.
The SuperBright mode can ONLY be achieved once per soft reset. So that means, use it once, and then when you power off the Magician it will go back to normal brightness again. If you try to run your camera again, it WILL HARD RESET the Magician. Let me say that again. Hard Reset. Not soft. So take a backup before use, and use wisely, and say no to drugs. To reenable SuperBright you will have to soft reset again.
VJLumos cannot (hopefully) be shut down after it’s been run, to remind you that you’ve run it once so don’t be a fool and run the camera again. Or it will hard reset your phone. Did I mention this?
VJLumos will show you a warning on startup. This can be optionally overridden by starting the program with a command line “silent”, eg
Code:
“vjlumos.exe silent”
I reiterate. I did not want to release this program because it is an ugly hack, works only once per soft reset and can hard reset your Magician. But I’ve been asked to release it, so caveat emptor.
This program took quite a while to develop and release, so if you want to express thanks or monetary vengefulness, please feel free to send a donation to my “Buy Vijay a WM5 device so he can keep pumping out the goods” campaign.
I need to buy a WM5 device to finish developing a ton of good stuff I can’t share with you guys yet. However, my Magician’s only a few months old and my better half won’t let me spend more cash now, so if I save up, you guys will reap the rewards. My stuff will generally be free or nearly free, particularly for XDA forum users. Stay tuned for more goodies on show shortly.
Click here to make a donation. :wink:
Guys, if you use this, successfully or not, please post. I need to keep track of how it works.
Download VJLumos.exe
Update - Lite version
If the automatic version (above) doesn't work for you, please try the "lite" version. To use this one:
1. Place a shortcut to VJLumosLite in your startmenu (no installer included for now).
2. Start the camera.
3. Click the tools option (second icon in the bottom right corner).
4. Click the tools menu.
5. Choose Adjust...
6. Now go to your startmenu and run VJLumosLite.
7. Hopefully after a few seconds you'll return to the today screen in SuperBright mode.
8. If you get an error message, please PM me with details of your setup.
Download VJLumosLite.exe
Further update, camera.exe
It appears that there are different versions of the camera.exe program on our phones. I'm using ROM 1.12. If you have incompatibilies, you can download the camera.exe from my ROM here. Install it in your \windows\ folder. If there are any copyright issues I'll take it down.
V
PS Did I mention the hard reset? Don’t run the camera again after VJLumos. And backup BEFORE first use in case you forget.
PPS Oh, and if you find yourself in a strange screen with a cross on it, press hangup (the red key) or somehow go back to Today screen.
PPPS I don't recommend putting this in your startup folder. It needs to play around with the camera, and your startup may be slow, causing problems with interacting with it.
Congrats for achieving what you've done so far
Chatty, did it work with your amputated camera?
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Well, no. It says "Couldn't start adjust dialog". That's a big hint towards how you did it ;-)
Now I'm gonna soft reset and pray I won't face an unwanted hard reset regardless what I'm doing.
I've left all debug messages in, and of course, as discussed in the other thread, that's exactly how I did it!
The camera program will obviously not start up when it doesn't find a camera then. I can't think of any other way to make it work for you.
Any chance you could have just changed the faceplate on your phone, rather than remove the camera? At work we've got some great adhesive silver foil, which I've used to cover the back of my magician (and ipod) with. It looks ok, and prevents scratching when throwing it down on the desk. It would cover the camera part well I think, and not look too poo.
Did it hardreset?
V
Luckily it didn't hard reset yet... but with Radio 1.13 I have the strange problem, that after a soft reset I get a msg like there's no driver for my BT hardware and I shall enter a name for the driver?! After a few power off/on it works again.
Changing the faceplate only would violate firm's policy I guess because you could always take away the plate, shoot photos and send them away immediately via MMS. I can faithfully admit I've got no "PDA with camera", I only got an allowed "PDA without camera". Another thing is, it's easily undoable. I needed this already for using my warranty.
Has anyone (else) tried this yet? I need to know if it works or needs deleting... please post either good or bad.
V
I can't test it because i don't know how to use the command line
If i start the file it shows me a warning message and after 3 seconds the screen return normal.
Andrea - when I said that if you don't know how to use a command line you shouldn't use it, I was just being careful. You don't need to use a command line.
Run the program. You'll get the warning. Then just click ok. What happens after that? On my system it goes through its actions for a couple of seconds, then returns to the Today screen with the new brighter screen.
V
On my magician it shows a warning message and after start camera and shows a message: "Couldn't find adjust dialog" then i press ok and there are 2 black windows open, i close them and the camera is on. I turn off camera and the screen returns to normal brightness
i'll hopefully release a simpler more compatible version tomorrow morning. Sorry you guys who are having troubles.
V
I'm waiting to test it! :lol:
Andrea, I've posted a lite version, please read the first post again and download.
All If the automatic version doesn't work for you, please PM me with your setup, eg startup programs, rom, or any special stuff you might be running. It runs perfectly on my 1.12 Magician, but I can't test it on any other. However, do try the new lite version, which requires you to manually go to the camera's Adjust... dialog, and then run VJLumosLite. It should return to the today screen in bright mode.
Oh, and I've updated the original version as well (updated version) to give it more time to find the windows it needs. Please try this version if it didn't work before, but you have had success with vjlumoslite which should work for everyone).
Please tell me if it works or not
V
Vijay, u've got a new pm!
@code72: He can see that for himself... why did you post here without any further information? This way it's useless for everyone.
Sorry Chatty i was excited.
I've sended him my configuration and the screen of error message.
(Vijay wrote: If the automatic version doesn't work for you, please PM me with your setup)
My screen capture is:
Guys, code72 got it working. It appears that we have different versions of the camera.exe program on our phones. Don't know how that happened. I'm using ROM 1.12.
If you have incompatibilies, you can download the camera.exe from my ROM here. Install it in your \windows\ folder. If there are any copyright issues I'll take it down.
Also, Code72 asked if I could update the program to prevent the Hard Reset. I'm afraid I can't, I wish I could. The hard reset happens because basically I'm forcing the camera to think it's on (even when it's off), to force the bright screen. However, then, if you try to start the camera again, it discovers that it thinks it's already on, conflicts with itself and crashes out badly. So, the only choice is not to run the camera twice... sorry guys. If I come up with a better solution, I'll post it.
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Thanks Vijay, for me VjlumosLite works ok. The screen is very brightness wow!
I've put vijay's camera.exe file in Windows folder, i've put VjlumosLite on SD card, i've created a shortcut to VjlumosLite in start menu then:
start camera
press camera settings
press tools->adjiust
press start menu VjlumosLite and.....
Wow, u are in today screen with a very brightness screen!
has someone tried this?
Guys, I've just managed to get a Universal, and guess what? VJLumosLite works!?
V
I have already seen a previous threads on disabling the camera on an 8125, but...
My company just starting enforcing a no camera phone policy, and I would like to find a way to not only map the key differently, but have the screen say "CAMERA DISABLED" when the camera button is pressed. This would satisfy the entrance receptionist. I am new to this list, and this is my first PPC phone. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
why not map the camera key to none? go to start, settings, buttons
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I have a new found love for our newbies... if you doubt me then i invite you to read the cingular customer forums and you will gain appreciation
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Hope that wasn't referencing mwah!! LOL!!
I know what you mean though. That's why I migrated over here -- more intelligent life in these parts -- at least, most of the time anyway.
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Hope that wasn't referencing mwah!! LOL!!
I know what you mean though. That's why I migrated over here -- more intelligent life in these parts -- at least, most of the time anyway.
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maybe i should have said a new appreciation.. some people think we get dumb questions over here from n00bs.. but 90% of the posters on the cingulars boards dont have a clue, drives me nuts.. anyway now that i am done hijacking this thread..
Is the solution to mapping the key to none a good solution for you excesszone or do you need something different?
It'd be very easy to knock together an app to do this, although as my brethren suggest, perhaps just prepare a bitmap with said legend, and then map that to the camera key. Pressing the key would launch the bitmap with the "camera ist kaputt" image etc.
But an exe could be prepared to do the same.
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First of all, Thanks for your assistance...
1)I have already remapped the camera button to <NONE>, but I still would like the screen to say "CAMERA DISABLED" upon pressing the camera button.
2)Actually, I honestly would like the camera software to be truly disabled or removed, and usable only if the actual camera software (or enabling program, or app, or whatever) is reloaded. This way if any company's security dept. really went looking for the camera application they still would not be able to launch it. I really do want to do the honest thing here since I ultimately want to comply with the no camera policy. I still need to visit secure facilities.
...but, I do not want to be greedy, so solution 1) above will suffice. Is it possible to drag the Camera app Icon into another folder, so it is out of sight?
I inadvertantly replied previously to "shogunmark" with a personal response, which mentioned that as a mechanical engineer of 25 yrs, (with early 80 char punch card fortran coding experience), I run for the hills when it comes to writing lines of code...so forgive me if I may require from time to time, a little "hand holding" (skip the h_mo phobe jokes!!! ). Thanks again.
Cingular 8125
humble newbie
There are posts on disabling the camera like this already I think.
Look up user Chatty's posts from memory - he eventually physically removed the cam, but I think you can try just overwritting the camera.exe with a dummy one. Then delete the dummy to re-enable the camera. Might work, might not!
Certainly you can move the camera shortcut elsewhere, and change the icon and call it Cat_Pr0n or something so people don't get suspicious.
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excesszone said:
First of all, Thanks for your assistance...
1)I have already remapped the camera button to <NONE>, but I still would like the screen to say "CAMERA DISABLED" upon pressing the camera button.
2)Actually, I honestly would like the camera software to be truly disabled or removed, and usable only if the actual camera software (or enabling program, or app, or whatever) is reloaded. This way if any company's security dept. really went looking for the camera application they still would not be able to launch it. I really do want to do the honest thing here since I ultimately want to comply with the no camera policy. I still need to visit secure facilities.
...but, I do not want to be greedy, so solution 1) above will suffice. Is it possible to drag the Camera app Icon into another folder, so it is out of sight?
I inadvertantly replied previously to "shogunmark" with a personal response, which mentioned that as a mechanical engineer of 25 yrs, (with early 80 char punch card fortran coding experience), I run for the hills when it comes to writing lines of code...so forgive me if I may require from time to time, a little "hand holding" (skip the h_mo phobe jokes!!! ). Thanks again.
Cingular 8125
humble newbie
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[email protected] no h_mo jokes.. there goes my reply.. lol .. how about this joke instead.. you have had almost as many years exprience as a mechanical engineer as i have been alive, welcome to the boards grandpa!
Now down to business.
you could go to:
\Windows folder and delete camera.exe
\Windows\Start Menu and delete camera.lnk (only if camera is in the start menu)
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and delete camera.lnk
This will ensure it wont come up. Camera.exe from the windows folder may be difficult to delete, however if you delete the lnk's it will keep it from being easily accessible and they would really have to dig to get the camera app up. Also as an alternative you might want to look around on the other boards and see if anyone has an 8100 they are willing to trade for your 8125, its the same phone just minus the camera!
I think you can have option (2). Just go to \Window, copy the camera.exe to somewhere else, rename it to (say) `thisIsNotCamera.exe` and have it copied into \Windows. Make an exe that display `Camera Disabled` and rename it to camera.exe and copied that into \Windows. You can keep all your links alive, if the security wanted to check, they will just see `Camera Disabled`, unless they are going into \Windows and execute each and every of your file. When you want to use camera, just find this secret file of yours.
As for the exe that display `camera disabled`, I bet anyone can write a Hello World for pocket pc is able to write one for you.
More on disabling 8125 camera
You guys are lifesavers. An old guy like me (as per shogunmark) needs help from time to time. My walker kind of slows me down!!!
My office (IT dept) will accept that my camera is disabled if the sceen says so after pushing the button, so I am electing OPTION 1 (mentioned in previous posts). It sounds like it could be handled with an app or an exe, and beyond.But what is the simplest way of achieving this?
Also, can I ask someone to write this and step me through its creation and install. I tried moving the Camera Icon / program into another folder and had no success. I am still a bit gun shy hacking into my 8125. Back in my day...
Cingular 8125
"Grandpa" at 42 yrs
excesszone: if you think you've got it bad, it seems that Shogun has decided to re-populate the planet all by his lonesome + his 400 kids. And he's only 15 years old, not even legal!
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vijay555 said:
excesszone: if you think you've got it bad, it seems that Shogun has decided to re-populate the planet all by his lonesome + his 400 kids. And he's only 15 years old, not even legal!
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excesszone said:
You guys are lifesavers. An old guy like me (as per shogunmark) needs help from time to time. My walker kind of slows me down!!!
My office (IT dept) will accept that my camera is disabled if the sceen says so after pushing the button, so I am electing OPTION 1 (mentioned in previous posts). It sounds like it could be handled with an app or an exe, and beyond.But what is the simplest way of achieving this?
Also, can I ask someone to write this and step me through its creation and install. I tried moving the Camera Icon / program into another folder and had no success. I am still a bit gun shy hacking into my 8125. Back in my day...
Cingular 8125
"Grandpa" at 42 yrs
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The easiest way is to create a text file called camera.txt rename it to camera.exe and place it in the \windows folder overwriting the camera.exe. (with total commander or gsfinder) Now when you click camera button an error message will pop up - will that suffice? You can do the same with clear storage - will stop one of shogunmarks many kids reseting your device.
Where is a mod when you need one?
Attached a simple hello world application to display the message "The camera function has been disabled permanently for security reasons.". Useful if you want to by pass security check to. . . let them check your phone.
Hey Guys,
I posted this in the Kaiser thread. It works brilliantly on my Ameo too.
Here's the first post from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332324
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I’ve found a mint piece of software that no Kaiser owner should be without.
It comes with a trial period and u should check it out.
I was looking for some software that would help secure my phone and came across this. http://www.wimp-software.co.uk)
It’s supposedly designed to help you find your phone (yeh right, I aint gonna lose my £500 phone) but me and my mate have had a **** load of fun with it.
It’s pretty cool.
If you read the instructions, you can basically text the phone, but the other person doesn’t get the text message. The software grabs this coded text message and sends you back the gps position of the phone. It also gives you a link to google maps which is great if you’ve got Opera installed on your phone. (Don’t try PIE, it doesn’t work)
I gotta say, I’ve seen a lot of cool software around, but this one is SO cool. I only wish my girlfriend had a Kaiser. I could have so much fun with this.
The only thing I would add to the software though, is to know I was being WIMPED. Maybe a little SMS noise, or the icon changed or something, but I do suppose that it was written for phone theft. I haven’t tried it yet, but it also claims that if you change the SIM card in the phone it’ll SMS you with the number of the new SIM card.
this is a great find. thanks
Yes, this is a fantastic idea. However, the implication on our privacy is something to think about very seriously. Yes, it does protect our phone from theft and lost.
Can it be uninstalled or removed by a hard reset.?
Yes, it can be uninstalled, and yes it will be removed by a hard reset.
HOWEVER, pop it into your External Rom and the above two things become insignificant.
That's very true.
or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...
Mobile Justice
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice
Does the same, is freeware, works without problems on My athena WITHOUT bottom bar at 128 DPI (WINP shows no ICON)
The easiest way could be to cook it into a ROM and put the config file into an unlocked EXTERNAL ROM.
This is needed because a config file is requested, so, even if you cook mobile justice into the rom, you can't cook the config file (it needs your password, your SIM number and your phone number to report at..)
Then you can config your phone and even in case of an hard reset, without the thieft knowledge of the SW, it will restart and it reads the config file into the external ROM
Midget_1990 said:
or cook it into a rom, doesnt help if they re-flash though...
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We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.
eaglesteve said:
We would have to assume that 99.9% of the guy having our phones does not know anything about flashing. This is a reasonable assumption I think.
Having even 80% chances of getting back a lost phone is already not bad.
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Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.
wgary said:
Agree with this. Even having the config file on the MicroDrive might work, if this could be built into the ROM to look there by default. Don't know if that's possible. Yes, you could erase the Microdrive but this would take more research than the usual thief might be willing to make...
WIMP says it will send a Google Maps link, will Mobile Justice do that? Seems like MJ is actually more configurable.
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MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like this the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?
sergiopi said:
MJ send GPS info in some formats, and have NO ICON on home screen. And a guy having in his hands a phone like the first thing he search on google is HOW TO HARD RESET THE DEVICE Without a config file in ROM (on on microdrive I agree, but when you hard reset the ATHENA he asks "do you want to format the microdrive?" Having a stolen one the answer will be always YES!
Moreover is FREE, so I think no problems, asking to author, to put it into the ROM and to modify the registry key for config file to have it on external rom. The problem is.. could we have a PK3.0 with External Rom unocked as default?
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I don't recall being asked about reformatting the MicroDrive on hard reset... But having it in external rom would certainly be a viable approach. This would be a nice feature for PK3.0
Has anyone got MobileJustice working??
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??
I tried mobileJustice and it didnt work for me either
wgary said:
I can send a message but the GPS feature doesn't work. Anyone??
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So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?
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So... I also tried WIMP and no love there, either. Even "heated up" GPS first. Thoughts, anyone?
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WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).
apd said:
WIMP worked for me second time out - had to increase the GPS timeout from 3 mins to 10 (I haven't yet tried any intermediate settings).
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What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!
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What settings did you use? I have x7500... Thanks!
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COM4, 38400, GPS TImeout 10, Max Satellites 6
The only way to works well it's integrating it in the rom, cause if its stolen the first thing that can do is change the rom
New Version on their website.
V1.2 includes various stealth options.
Wouldn't it be great if we could tell the program to draw the thiefs attention (eg an alarm) and when the person reacts to this alarm have it make a photograph with the front camera, which could be send through mms or e-mail... Then you would know who to look for when you arrive at the GPS coordinates with your baseball bat...