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Ok having major problems with this unit, I've finally bonded the device to the xda 2 and have installed the software and UK maps onto memory card, I can only select com 7 in the bluetooth profiles for the Navman and when I go into GPS settings in SmartST com 7 is the only one I cant use WTF !!!!!
Also after running SmartST when I next try to run it it runs so slow and eventually locks up I've tried all the patches to no avail I have 70 Mb of memory for running programs so that should be plenty. Anyone haave any Ideas????
Navman problem fixed!!!!!!
Well I managed to figure out what was causing the SmartST software to run rediculously slow on my XDA II.
I noticed that whenever I stopped all programs from running, the Active program would always end up as not responding so I decided to remove the O2 Active user interface and it cured the problem.
It works great totally impressed with it.
WOOHOO
Jarran said:
Ok having major problems with this unit, I've finally bonded the device to the xda 2 and have installed the software and UK maps onto memory card, I can only select com 7 in the bluetooth profiles for the Navman and when I go into GPS settings in SmartST com 7 is the only one I cant use WTF !!!!!
Also after running SmartST when I next try to run it it runs so slow and eventually locks up I've tried all the patches to no avail I have 70 Mb of memory for running programs so that should be plenty. Anyone haave any Ideas????
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Sorry mate , do you have a smart ST professional ora higher version ?
I'm using the Smart ST professional updated , but I bond the gps with the XDA2 , but once Ilaunch the software , I cannot selectany port available in the gps software .
Do you have any idea ?
Thanks
Smartst
I have the Smartst version 2 which has been patched to the latest update.
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I have the Smartst version 2 which has been patched to the latest update.
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So do I have to buy Smart STprofessional 2 to make it work ?
Thanks a lot
Janaro
Com 7 Port For Navman
I had a similar problem. I had to remove the exisiting bond with the Navman and then soft reset. Then, go into GPS settings and com7 should be available to select. Finally, rebond with Navman device and select com7 from the bluetooth tools options, and hey presto! It took some trial and error but it was worth it, Navman now working perfectly, am looking forward to an extended road test in northern France this weekend!
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kernow said:
I had a similar problem. I had to remove the exisiting bond with the Navman and then soft reset. Then, go into GPS settings and com7 should be available to select. Finally, rebond with Navman device and select com7 from the bluetooth tools options, and hey presto! It took some trial and error but it was worth it, Navman now working perfectly, am looking forward to an extended road test in northern France this weekend!
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I have uninstalled the software and installed again , without bonding it yet .
When I launch the smart ST professional 1.91.0011 , there si no port available !!! do you know why ? Can you help me on this matter . Thanks
Janaro
hey hey hey... cool it guys..
I helped a customer set this up, and it worked like a charm..
You have to make sure that before you paired both the deviced, you have to checked the inbound port under settings->bluetooths settings...
then you should be able to selected it later in the program..
oh yes, just a gentle reminder, just install the EnableCharPin software from , else you cannot enter "NAVMAN" as a password.
Cheers
there is another solutions dou, but after I worked on it for another customer, I could not get it to work with his headset using bluetooth.
ChaoZ said:
hey hey hey... cool it guys..
I helped a customer set this up, and it worked like a charm..
You have to make sure that before you paired both the deviced, you have to checked the inbound port under settings->bluetooths settings...
then you should be able to selected it later in the program..
oh yes, just a gentle reminder, just install the EnableCharPin software from , else you cannot enter "NAVMAN" as a password.
Cheers
there is another solutions dou, but after I worked on it for another customer, I could not get it to work with his headset using bluetooth.
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Thank you very much mate for your effort , but to be honest ...still doesn't work !! I have no port available in the Smart St Professional window !!! I have done all your path several times , no sign . I have also tried the other bluethooths tools , nothing . I launch the softare but no port available . I can pair the devices but then I cannot get the GPS signal to the software !!Any other idea ?
Janaro
Navman problems
Hi guys -
I'm also having problems with setting up my Navman 4410. I had it working on my XDA2 (after a struggle) when using ROM version 1.03, but I've now upgraded to ROM V1.60.50 which is the latestest relase from 02. Since then I'm having the same problems as Janaro - there is no com7 available in SmartST (v2.00.0029 SP1). The default bluetooth com port is COM4 but it does not appear to bond correctly.
I've tried the recommendation from Kernow but I still cannot get it to work
Has anybody got any ideas ?
Alan
Have you got "Recieve all incoming beams" unticked. Start\settings\connections\beam.
Hope this helps
Receive all incoming beams is ticked - should it be ?
I think the problem is more to do with the COM ports. BTHtools only allows you to set the com port to COM7 - but COM7 is not available within Navmans SmartST software.
Ah ha - untick "Receive all incoming beams" (in start\settings\connections\beam) and COM7 becomes available within SmartST - everybody with problems please note !!!
It now works OK - many thanks
Alan
crippsa said:
Ah ha - untick "Receive all incoming beams" (in start\settings\connections\beam) and COM7 becomes available within SmartST - everybody with problems please note !!!
It now works OK - many thanks
Alan
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hello there , my incoming beams was already untick !!! still not working , what a mess !!!
Thank you
Janaro
Different Navman solution
After upgrading my Qtek 2020 to 1.66, SmartST would take forever to open whereas it had been reasonably quick before.
I was successful in making it work by not installing the bluetooth tools but only executing the EnableCharPin from my synched laptop.
This meant that I could pair my Navman 4410 after having checked both inbound COM4 and Outbound COM5 in Bluetooth settings. (The bluetooth tools would only provide COM7 whereas that port was not available in SmartST)
The double blinking only went away after SmartST was started.
After installing SmartST V2 the program starts fairly quickly
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LarsN said:
After upgrading my Qtek 2020 to 1.66, SmartST would take forever to open whereas it had been reasonably quick before.
I was successful in making it work by not installing the bluetooth tools but only executing the EnableCharPin from my synched laptop.
This meant that I could pair my Navman 4410 after having checked both inbound COM4 and Outbound COM5 in Bluetooth settings. (The bluetooth tools would only provide COM7 whereas that port was not available in SmartST)
The double blinking only went away after SmartST was started.
After installing SmartST V2 the program starts fairly quickly
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Ok , so I have to install Samst ST V2 !!!
Thank you
Janaro
4400 and XDAII works OK
I am using the 1.60WWE 02 ROM (Recent upgrade), a Navman 4400 and Smart ST (not 2) software, and it works a charm. I agree that BTTools should not be used but you have to use enablechar.exe to key in the PIN. I had no problems with bonding. Make sure however you un-pair all other devices (headset etc) first to give the 4400 first choice of the COM ports. As has been stated, when paired, make sure you check Com 5 outbound under Start/Settings/BT Settings (this was the main feature of the 1.60 upgrade that appealed to me), then select the same port from the GPS status screen of Smart ST.
It is working for me. I look forward to seeing Smart ST2 with its 3d view, but it is not necessary.
I think you have other problems if ST 1 doesn't work.
On another note, the amount of time taken to start the software is related to how many maps it has to process. If you only check the maps you are using (under Setup/Maps in Smart ST) it will speed things up greatly.
After first getting my XDA2 to work with my Navman 4410 using SmartST V2 and BTHTools and setting the com port to 7, I have now managed to get it working by using the standard set-up as recommended by Camstech.
By checking both the inbound and outbound boxes in start/settings/system/BlueTooth_settings and by setting COM5 within SmartST it now works fine.
Alan
Navman 4400 / 4410 and Bluetooth Headset
Very helpful dialogue here. Many thanks to all. Based on this, I am planning to purchase either a Navmean 4400 or 4410, but wondered if any of you have been able to set up the GPS and a Bluetooth headset at the same time. I don't really need to have the GPS voice prompts come through the headset (probably too much to ask at this point), but would like to be able to answer/end calls via the headset, while the GPS is active. Do any of you have BT headsets working with the 4400 / 4410 installed?
I have Navman 4400 and bluetooth headset working at the same time not a problem. I bought Namvan 4400 from Dicksmith Australia as I got it $100 off the price as it has the old 2D software mapping, but Navman Australia send the mapping software upgrades to you for free, something to consider if you can find 4400 still as the hardware is the same with 4400 and 4100 navmans.
I have been using my XDAII for a few weeks very successfully with the TomTom3 navigator software and a GPS receiver connected to the serial port (on COM1). Then I decided to install the Bluetooth tools from http://bluetooth.i-networx.de to try and use my phone with a Nokia bluetooth car kit. Unfortunately it didn't work, but now COM1 is unavailable.
When I run my TomTom navigator, I now get the error message 'COM1 is unavailable', and I've noticed in ActiveSync that if I go File>Connection Settings, it shows COM1 as unavailable and greyed out in the selection box.
Performing a Hard Reset hasn't cured the problem.
Does anyone know how to make COM1 available again?
Try going to settings/connections/beams and make sure beams is unchecked.
Hi
I'm new to this site and would like a little help if possible.
I recently went from an IPAQ 5550 to an XDA. I installed my TOMTom3 software to the XDA with no problem. When i start up TT3 the software calls up the GPS part first and then starts the main TT3 prog. (as it did on my IPAQ). Although i haven't bought a suitable connecting cable yet for my receiver (the old receiver IPAQ plug does actually fit into the XDA!) when i start navigator up the XDA complains that there is a problem with COM1 not existing. After a couple of "OK" clicks it then boots up navigator and the maps etc seem to be as normal but the GPS says it is disabled.
Any ideas greatly apreciated
Doug
The iPAQ and XDA connectors although physically identical are not the same. The GPS disabled message is because it can't detect the GPS which given you don't have the correct lead is understandable.
As for the COM1 not exisiting error, do you have nything else which may be using COM1 such as an external or clip on keyboard driver?
To enable com 1, go to settings/connections and uncheck the "recieve incoming beams" also if you have an external keyboard driver that will also need disabling.
Now i'm impressed. Thanks to both of you for the replies. I unchecked the beam box and it goes direct to TT3. Brilliant.
(I think a donation may be in order soon) :wink:
Doug
I recently upgraded my Bluetooth GPS Receiver from a rikaline 6030 to an Aktronix with 16 satellites but i can't make it work with my XDAII and Tomtom 3.07.
I can pair it. But when i start the Tomtom GPS Tracker, it can't seem to connect to the Aktronix GPS Receiver.
Any Help will be greatly appreciated
Which port are you using for the gps? Did you accept serial profile when gps was being bonded. Try choosing tomtom wireless gps and bt gps in the bottom box.
I tried to use com 1 port, but xda issued an error saying that com 1 doesn't exist. I then tried 4, 5, 7, 9 to no avail. I tried selecting tomtom wireless gps and bt gps but it still failed to work although that's the setting i used for the rikaline 6030.
The aktronix uses nmea chipset and the manual tells me to use it as an spp slave but xda doesn't have that option. I also tried installing pocket Bluetooth tools but when i tried to pair the aktronix GPS, there's no port number in the serial option. It just has a blank field...
Hopefully you guys can help me sort this out
Try the following under the GPS section (2nd page where the world map is).
Top dropdown = NMEA 0183 v2 Bluetooth
Bottom dropdown = Blue tooth Serial Port COM6
Make sure the box is "ticked"
Also, switch on Bluetooth, go into bluetooth setting,select service, highlight serial port and make sure there is a tick in the Enable service box.
HTH
Kevin
I've selected NMEA 0183 v2 Bluetooth and Com 6. But when i went to bluetooth settings, i can't see service on it. All i can see are:
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Bluetooth Beam Authentication
Authentication Required
Bluetooth ActiveSync Setup
Press start button...
Bluetooth Serial Port Setup:
Inbound COM port: COM4
Outbound COM port: COM5
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Is this the service that you're talking about? If not, where can i find this service thing that i need to highlight.
ROM Version 1.72.00WWE
Radio Version 1.17.00
ExtRom version 1.72.187
Looking at those setting you should be choosing com 5 for your gps. It should also work by choosing tomtom wireless in the top box and bt gps in the lower box in tomtom gps settings. Try removing the gps from your bonded items, reset the xda then rebond, it should offer to act as serial port profile, answer yes to this.
I also tried installing pocket Bluetooth tools but when i tried to pair the aktronix GPS, there's no port number in the serial option. It just has a blank field...
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This is the same problem for me, but with a Royaltek RBT-1000, XDA II and Pocket Bluetooth Tools installed...
Any solution?
Well, I have a similar condition.
O2 XDA II, AA Navigator and Fortuna Clip-On Bluetooth GPS.
It has worked before with TomTom, it STILL works with Microsoft Pocket Streets - you start it and it shows the GPS data.
AA Navigator automatically detects the device, setting the data to COM5 (which seems right to me - Outbound port which means the XDAII initiates the link) and speed to 4800. This is the same setting which is used by (working) Microsoft Pocket Streets, so I'm pretty much confident that the port would be COM5.
Yet when I confirm this, it still says <unplugged/setup wrong>... and the blue LED on Clip-on does not pulsate just like it does when there is the reception with other working software...
Wrote e-mail to AA support (I'm no fool to ring £1 / minute support line...) and waiting the answer... not going to resort back to TomTom...
I am trying to set up tomtom 5.21 with my BTGPS74 receiver but cant get the two to communicate. I know there is some settings you can change in settings/system/gps but the problem I have is I dont have the gps option in settings anywhere. Am I missing something? Does any on know what I should do. Tomtom wants me to use port 3 or 7 but when I try to set them in bluetooth settings it says its not possible check your settings. Any suggestions would b welcome. Thanks.
P.S I know the receiver works as it still works well with my N70.
...you should've gotten a GPS icon if software GPS recognized.
In rgister you can force simulation.
hklm\controlpanel\gps]
delete redirect and add 'group' with dword=2
Then GPS icon will appear.
I gave it programport 7,hardware 6, baudrate=57600
gps auto checked
I'm not sure about the settings...
I had to create incomming and outgoing com ports on my 3100 (not sure if you need both)??
TomTom used com port 9 and works like a dream
as soon as you start the programme it connects automatically as long as my receiver is on.
It even connects when the BT on the 3100 is turned off - it starts the BT automaticlally when tomtom runs!
Yeah i agree all you need to do is set up the com ports, then fire up tomtom and select the com port you just set up and away it goes
Chris
Thanks for the replies guys. I know I have to set the com ports but the problem I have is there is nowhere for me to do this. For some reason the gps settings is missing from the system/settings. I am going to try to reinstall tomtom to see if it helps. Tomtom has ports 3 and 7 showing but they seem to be taken by something else so I cant configure my receiver on either of them.
I have a slightly different problem... my TyTn can connect to the BT GPS reciever, but as soon as TomTom tries to calculate a route, or I click the GPS signal icon it crashes back to the Today screen...
I've got TomTom installed with 5.21 update, anyone had any problems like this?
you just need to pair your bluetooth device go to settings connections and bluetooth and add new device, let your tytn search and it will find a new device when you have paired it select new comm port outgoing
I have no gps setting in control panel either
Cheers
Chris
Hi,
i have a strange problem with my BT. I cant create a incoming or outgoing BT port. I dont know why but it wont let me create any ports.
Anyone with the same odd problem?
I had a similar problem, Tytn would only let me choose COM0 (Zero) as outgoing port, and TT works fine with it. However, I would like to add Mapking for Asia, and this navi soft will not accept a GPS on COM0. Anybody understands why Tytn is only offering COM0 as outgoing ports for GPS?
I have set the com4 as outgoing port and now tomtom seems to work fine.
thanks for that info.
I don't know why only port 0 and all other ports are blocked but TT works for me now. I only need to wait for a better ROM and i can leave my Wizard home
I have written to a good contact at HTC since I need COM ports other than 0 for Asian Mapking navi soft (in add. to TT) . Will keep you posted.
Answer from HTC:
"As my testing, the Outgoing port is not limited with COM0. PaPaGo can accept with COM0, COM2, COM4, COM8, and COM9. I think the limitation of COM0 is the software limitation of TOMTOM, So if the user wants to use Mapking that only support COM1~7, he need delete the outgoing port COM0, and reassign another COM port for the BT GPS."
I imagine the problem lies between the Tytn and TomTom only, and other navi soft would find other COM ports. But I am kind of hesitant to interfere with a working TomTom, and go through the outgoing COM port game again...
I'm using Navigon and set up an outgoing Connection on com2 and it works fine for me.
sounds like TT is the problem ...
greetz
sphings
Guys, let me try to help you a little bit, as I work in navigation software development (Destinator).
1. The COM ports has nothing to do with the actual software you are running. This is pre-defined in the ROM you are using. That is also the reason why we see variations here - we use different ROMs.
2. In order of enabling a COM port, you do NOT need to discover the GPS icon on the settings. It is quite useless unless you wish to work simultaniusly with more than one software.
3. To enable a COM port, after you pair the GPS, look down for the tab COM Ports in the BT settings Manager. You only need to create Outgoing COM.
4. Strange but usually you will only be able to choose between 2 COM ports. The rest are hidden by the OS. MAKE SURE that you disabled the "Secure Connections". Default key for all the GPS receivers is "0000" and for Globalsat 308 is "2003". The last is AKA HP GPS.
5. If you cannot enable any other COM port than COM0, this is a ROM problem and you should contact your ROM provider like the mobile carrier. You can also try to enable other COM ports with the attached CAB file. Simply run it, it will expose all COM ports for you and now you should start trying. I reccomend to test COMs 4-8 first, normally, it will solve your problems. (Note: I got this file previously here and did not create it myself).
There have been may posts about TomTom not recognising B GPS's.
One solution that doesnlt seem to be mentioned here id to ensure that the name of the GPs in BT connections actually ends in "GPS"..
If it doesn;t renove the pairing and re-pari , but change the name this time to something that ends in "GPS"...
good luck
Charlie Grillo
Thanks guys, found another solution that works for me now:
1) Set your Bluetooth GPS to another COM port than 0 (TomTom´s standard port 6 was not available, so I choose 2)
2) open Programs/Navigator/navigator.cfg with a text editor, change COM0 to COM2
3) start TomTom - working on COM 2!
Started Mapking, found COM 2 - working now.
hello fellas,
as you can see im new here. im thinking of buying the TYTN, a sector which i have never explored before (pda sector).
it sounds great with the applications and due to my work, a need for a pda is becoming bigger.
i posted in this message due to the GPS topic.
i got a very stupid question which you may recieve occasionally if i buy the tytn.. :twisted:
why do a person need BT enabled GPS? i read you can connect it to your PDA but for what reason?
thanks in advance and apologies for any inconvience..
@D_G - welcome to this board
In order to run navigation software on your Tytn you need a external GPS connected to it. Easiest solution is a external GPS connected via Bluetooth.
Another solution would be to buy a PDA phone with a GPS receiver on board, for example the ETen G500.
Of course we would all be interested in a UMTS PDA with integrated GPS, with acceptable battery life, but that will take some time...
thanks lucas for the answer. but why would you need a navigation software if you have a GPS device? in either case you will need to have both devices in a particula blue tooth range. right?
this means you will need your handheld device + the GPS to activate the navigation software, or dd I miss something?!