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I'm having quite a bit of problem with my Dopod 900 (HTC Universal). It's performance in terms of battery life is below my expectations (probably due to all the plugins/startups that I have).
I'm thinking of using CPU throttling programs, i.e. XCPUScalar OR Pocket Hack Master. Has anyone had experience using such programs before, and does it really extend battery life significantly?
Also, any comments on which program is better, more stable, etc.?
Other than using Battery Status, (247mHz), are there any other utilities that will speed up my performance? Can I safely OC over 247?
I think another one is called omapclock? I don't know what a good maximum is but you can google for that one it's here in the forums somewhere.
BatteryStatus V1.04 - it is save up to 273 on my Artemis! - do not try 286MHz!!!
I run at 260 safely on mine. I ran at 360 ( I think that is max) once...it was...interesting. The screen got all fuzzy and started making a humming sound, lol. My wiz got really hot...good times. Good thing I didn't dmg it.
BigRed Productions said:
I run at 260 safely on mine. I ran at 360 ( I think that is max) once...it was...interesting. The screen got all fuzzy and started making a humming sound, lol. My wiz got really hot...good times. Good thing I didn't dmg it.
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I use 260 safely also.
read a few posts about overclocking.
Is it safe? will it eat up more battery?
Thanks
It's fairly safe as long as you don't overclock it too high (processor can freeze, glitch, crash, and or burn.) Batterystatus is nice because it kicks your speed down to a resting state when you aren't using your wizard and increases the speed again when you resume. But from what I've seen, it does tend to drain your battery faster...but also is well worth the minor drain for the increase in speed.
Hi. The X1 come with the QUALCOMM 7200 A CPU normally @528 Mhz. But i read somewhere that the X1 is underclocked @400 mhz for power save. Its ok if it return @528 mhz when we watch movie or listen music... But can we know if he really do that?
Tks.
foxvengeor said:
Hi. The X1 come with the QUALCOMM 7200 A CPU normally @528 Mhz. But i read somewhere that the X1 is underclocked @400 mhz for power save. Its ok if it return @528 mhz when we watch movie or listen music... But can we know if he really do that?
Tks.
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overclockin this processor is the the PRIMARY thing i wanna do to this phone....ANY way of doin that i'll try...
he is speaking about Underclocking not overclocking ... and why you wanna Overclock ... 528 is enough...!!!
No , i want to verify if the CPU is at 528 mhz or not.
I've see on another thread (the X1 performance thread) that the CPU is auto underclocked for save power...
foxvengeor said:
No , i want to verify if the CPU is at 528 mhz or not.
I've see on another thread (the X1 performance thread) that the CPU is auto underclocked for save power...
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well in that case.....i wouldnt mind havin it runnin at full
i heared about it somewere, i don't know if it's true or not, but even though, the device is generating much heat already when using wifi/gps while charging, maybe this will make it worse
my cpu monitor plugin on my today screen has never budged from 400mhz.
The plugin also has a temp reading and my xperia runs around 108F with the wifi running were it idles around 84F, 91F watching a properly converted movie (500kbps and 30fps for me) or music, and 95F when watching a movie that makes the Xperia work.
kdspiv said:
my cpu monitor plugin on my today screen has never budged from 400mhz.
The plugin also has a temp reading and my xperia runs around 108F with the wifi running were it idles around 84F, 91F watching a properly converted movie (500kbps and 30fps for me) or music, and 95F when watching a movie that makes the Xperia work.
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That sounds like a very handy plugin. Could you provide a link or attach it please?
I find that the back plate gets quite warm when it's on charge in the car holder and running TomTom. If I could measure how warm it's getting then I might feel okay about it.
sounds interesting aswell, the plugin.
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my cpu monitor plugin on my today screen has never budged from 400mhz. "
oO that's crap. Its a 528 mhz cpu and we can't have a real 528 mhz? 400 is less than the iphone...
Same here. My today plug-in says 400mhz and usually the temp is between 30 and 39 degrees (celsius).
The name of the app is "wk task". It's extremely handy with tons of options. It has system tray launching options. Shows cp speed and temp, ram etc.
P.S. Did i mention you can launch programs from the system tray??? Hehe
we have a "hot" phone lol
hot in price design and temp!
Yep. But why the X1 don't run at the normal 528 mhz frequency?
It run @400 . I think we can boost him @528mhz. @400 it's slower than the iphone . In idle use ok , for save the battery , but when we watch a movie , or surf with opera 528 mhz is better...
then go this web page, www.xda-hackers.com lol
I tried using Teksoft Speedbooster to make certain apps "high priority". First one was morphgear, thinking it might bring up the fps. I cant notice any diff :-/
So I would also like to overclock the cpu (if its possible)...itje's touch-it v4 beta 6 uses even less ram than before...fantastic rom...but yet morphgear is still not running perfectly.
I will try with core player and maybe opera
Try this
Please try to connect your X1 to power supply and check CPU speed. For my previous device connected power supply caused CPU works at maximum speed.
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So I would also like to overclock the cpu (if its possible).
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We don't need to overclock the CPU . It will be good if the CPU run at his normal speed also @528mhz and not 400 (under the frequency of the iphone)!!!.
Also , a overclock on this type of CPU may cause overheating issues. Only 528 mhz will be a great advance on performance.
I think that the X1's CPU is underclocked @400mhz... It's bad
Yeah, thats what I meant foxvengeor, but didnt make it very clear
I would also like to bring my x1 to the proper cpu speed, rather than what it is currently. Like somebody else said, I would take a hit on the battery standby time over performance (unless it ruins either my battery of my phone).
Wow seriously? I had never heard it was underclocked.. It is advertised as 528mhz isnt it?! I mean the battery life is great as is, but I would like to see how it does at 528.. The device info control panel does say 528 though.
orelsi said:
Same here. My today plug-in says 400mhz and usually the temp is between 30 and 39 degrees (celsius).
The name of the app is "wk task". It's extremely handy with tons of options. It has system tray launching options. Shows cp speed and temp, ram etc.
P.S. Did i mention you can launch programs from the system tray??? Hehe
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I dunno if I'm a bit slow or something but I just installed wk task and after aunching the taskbar from it, and looking through the settings for about half an hour, I couldn't for the life of my find anyhting to do with temperatures and/or ram/cpu or anything related.
It seems to do nothing more than work as a task manager/task bar/launcher.
I've seen a few different posts in some of the kernel threads debating whether SetCPU is helping or hurting battery life. SO, I'm just kind of curious to see what results are on a larger scale? Based on your own experiences, do you have SetCPU installed and if so, does it help or hurt battery life generally? Also, if you do have it installed, do you use profiles? What are the most beneficial settings to use?
1. Not in right section
2. SetCPU not intended for battery life
3. It only adjusts CPU clockspeed
4. This thread is mostly meaningless
5. It's been discussed ad nauseam.
charnsingh_online said:
1. Not in right section
2. SetCPU not intended for battery life
3. It only adjusts CPU clockspeed
4. This thread is mostly meaningless
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SetCPU is not intended for battery life? Go to the Market and look at the description. If I posted this in the wrong section I apoligize. But, I think you are mistaken with your comment about SetCPU not being intended to increase battery life or increase performance...
THATTON said:
SetCPU is not intended for battery life? Go to the Market and look at the description. If I posted this in the wrong section I apoligize. But, I think you are mistaken with your comment about SetCPU not being intended to increase battery life or increase performance...
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SetCPU only sets clock speeds and governors already in the kernel. If you just install SetCPU and adjust no settings your battery life will not change. Thus, "does SetCPU help battery life?" is utterly and completely meaningless.
Discussion of different governors and clock speeds has occurred (and is still occurring) ad nauseum and is really more suited for the General forum.
Thread moved as it does not pertain to N1 development.
I see very little gains from setcpu but I use it because I purchased it from the market and why not use it if you bought it right?
This method does not apply to drug addiction LOL
-Charlie
bri3d said:
SetCPU only sets clock speeds and governors already in the kernel. If you just install SetCPU and adjust no settings your battery life will not change. Thus, "does SetCPU help battery life?" is utterly and completely meaningless.
Discussion of different governors and clock speeds has occurred (and is still occurring) ad nauseum and is really more suited for the General forum.
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lol Why would you download an application, not use it, and expect results?
If you throttle your CPU down you WILL get better battery life. My phone is set to never go over 600mhz and I get bettter life with it than if I turn off setcpu altogether.
charnsingh_online said:
1. Not in right section
2. SetCPU not intended for battery life
3. It only adjusts CPU clockspeed
4. This thread is mostly meaningless
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You have a lot of knowledge, this is obvious but you're unnecessarily harsh (mean).
It's boring but's it's a legitimate question because people still make inaccurate conclusions about CPU and battery life. Those of us with some knowledge can really help those that are trying to understand.
#2 above is correct. But the question remains, does a forced lower clock speed ceiling have an effect on battery life? It could do, of course it could, but without a baseline and a control environment it's impossible to prove either way. I suspect the OP is simply looking for subjective opinions.
And on this basis I offer:
The CPU only has a material effect on battery drain when it's being utilised.
When the Nexus CPU is not required to work it idles using the lowest power possible
The radio (network) interface is the second most demanding element of on your battery over time (next to the display). Although the CPU peak demand is higher than the radio.
SetCPU does not impact radio battery use.
SetCPU can not have a positive effect on battery usage if it's using more power to run it's clock cycles.
SetCPU can force the processor to use less power (wind down speed).
Slowing the processor means some tasks will take longer to perform.
If those tasks require a high-drain elements (display, radio, WiFi or BT for example) then it's counter-productive (battery wise) to slow them down.
However, because CPU power consumption does not have a liner relationship to clock speed, then some tasks that don't use high-drain elements will consume less power to complete.
So, whilst it's unlikely that your battery life will benefit from the use of SetCPU alone there is a chance that it will.
SetCPU is a fantastic app designed for overclocking, the profiles are niche facilities that may offer battery benefit to a narrow range of users.
Hey djmcnz thanks for the indept look at this app but more importantly thanks for showing respect to those of us who are just learning. We all have to learn information at some point and there are people that forget that at one point some one had to tell them.
Thank you for the clarification on that! Djmcnz-that was exactly what I was looking for in terms of an answer. I really appreciate you taking the time out to explain everything for me and anyone else that may have been curious.
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1. Not in right section
2. SetCPU not intended for battery life
3. It only adjusts CPU clockspeed
4. This thread is mostly meaningless
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Don't know why you're so pissed off by a thread...
1. Not a very big issue. We have mods here to take care of this.
2. I don't know if SetCPU affects battery life or not but similar thing on a PSP device does increase the battery life. I have tried it on my PSP and setting the clock speed to the lowest acceptable level (depending upon what you're doing) does help maximizing the battery life.
3. You're absolutely right here.
4. Don't know what to say man.. but being a little humble doesn't hurt....
I never meant to be rude. I always get pissed off when people post in wrong sections Seriously. If people post in right section it just frees up moderator time. And about CPU nexus CPU has same voltage for many frequencies like 998,960 have same voltage. Going so down doesn't mostly benefit. So setcpu is only good for overclocking IMO. Display uses most of the power along with radio n CPU is one of those in middle of usage maybe 3rd or 4th. So underclocking will give a big battery boost is just a placebo. Atmost 10 minutes more is what underclocking can provide. N its not worth sacrificing the performance. Go for something underpowered if u want to underclock IMO. So setcpu serves more purpose of power than battery
I use it for the cool widget and standby/idle profile. B-)
you know what?youre allright.i follow your threads and you explain things well for someone like me learning all this ****.i got no time for keyboard commandos.thanks for the explanation.
djmcnz said:
You have a lot of knowledge, this is obvious but you're unnecessarily harsh (mean).
It's boring but's it's a legitimate question because people still make inaccurate conclusions about CPU and battery life. Those of us with some knowledge can really help those that are trying to understand.
#2 above is correct. But the question remains, does a forced lower clock speed ceiling have an effect on battery life? It could do, of course it could, but without a baseline and a control environment it's impossible to prove either way. I suspect the OP is simply looking for subjective opinions.
And on this basis I offer:
The CPU only has a material effect on battery drain when it's being utilised.
When the Nexus CPU is not required to work it idles using the lowest power possible
The radio (network) interface is the second most demanding element of on your battery over time (next to the display). Although the CPU peak demand is higher than the radio.
SetCPU does not impact radio battery use.
SetCPU can not have a positive effect on battery usage if it's using more power to run it's clock cycles.
SetCPU can force the processor to use less power (wind down speed).
Slowing the processor means some tasks will take longer to perform.
If those tasks require a high-drain elements (display, radio, WiFi or BT for example) then it's counter-productive (battery wise) to slow them down.
However, because CPU power consumption does not have a liner relationship to clock speed, then some tasks that don't use high-drain elements will consume less power to complete.
So, whilst it's unlikely that your battery life will benefit from the use of SetCPU alone there is a chance that it will.
SetCPU is a fantastic app designed for overclocking, the profiles are niche facilities that may offer battery benefit to a narrow range of users.
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djmcnz said:
You have a lot of knowledge, this is obvious but you're unnecessarily harsh (mean).
It's boring but's it's a legitimate question because people still make inaccurate conclusions about CPU and battery life. Those of us with some knowledge can really help those that are trying to understand.
#2 above is correct. But the question remains, does a forced lower clock speed ceiling have an effect on battery life? It could do, of course it could, but without a baseline and a control environment it's impossible to prove either way. I suspect the OP is simply looking for subjective opinions.
And on this basis I offer:
The CPU only has a material effect on battery drain when it's being utilised.
When the Nexus CPU is not required to work it idles using the lowest power possible
The radio (network) interface is the second most demanding element of on your battery over time (next to the display). Although the CPU peak demand is higher than the radio.
SetCPU does not impact radio battery use.
SetCPU can not have a positive effect on battery usage if it's using more power to run it's clock cycles.
SetCPU can force the processor to use less power (wind down speed).
Slowing the processor means some tasks will take longer to perform.
If those tasks require a high-drain elements (display, radio, WiFi or BT for example) then it's counter-productive (battery wise) to slow them down.
However, because CPU power consumption does not have a liner relationship to clock speed, then some tasks that don't use high-drain elements will consume less power to complete.
So, whilst it's unlikely that your battery life will benefit from the use of SetCPU alone there is a chance that it will.
SetCPU is a fantastic app designed for overclocking, the profiles are niche facilities that may offer battery benefit to a narrow range of users.
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HUH English Please
Kidding
mikey1022 said:
huh english please :d
kidding
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Personaly done many tests and the result was:
Test config: WiFi tethering all the way, screen 100% Playing video all the time 2G only
4:10 @ 245Mhz hard
3:30 @ 998Mhz hard
No use actually - using N1 on 245Mhz is impossible - too sluggish.
SetCpu is ussefull:
1) If u have OC kernel to set OC mode for games like Asphalt
2)For letting android vary frequence ondemand instead of 998 all the time
3)For downclocking while in sleep mode (why use full power when u dont use it?)
4)For using Failsafe profile, to prevent battery and hardware damage.
That's all.
No use trying saving battery setting profiles like 100% - 998, 50% - 576, 20% - 499. This is useless.
On UV kernels the same thing +\-30 minutes battery life. And UV kernels themselfs dont give segnificant battery life increase, only lags and unstability ti system.
Dont believe me try yourself - Create yourself some actions fo testing and repeat them 2 time (Min cpu and Max cpu) on any kernel. Results will be very close.
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3)For downclocking while in sleep mode (why use full power when u dont use it?)
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The CPU steps down to it's minimum speed by itself. It never uses more juice than it needs to.
As far as i know, it is always at maximum, but maybe im wrong and you are right - then theres even less sence in this app.
Ok, so you guys all rock first off. I'm a PC nerd and one of the ways i've over clocked and reduced power consumption on my laptop is to under-volt the CPU. Basically keeping the clock speed equal, but lowering the voltage to use less power, less heat, less battery. At some point your CPU becomes unstable....
Is anyone actively attempting to do this on the eris? I saw a brief comment by Ivan, but he's not active in the Eris world.. any of you Eris Devs even remotely looking into this? I could point you in the PC direction of how to do this, but I am clueless (and dont have that much time) to teach myself how to go about this in android.
If anyone is trying i'd love to be a beta tester.
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the only clues are outside of the Eris world, but possibly within reach?:
http://androidspin.com/2010/02/19/nexus-one-undervolted-at-stock-speeds/
are these portable?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654416
Izeltokatl said:
Ok, so you guys all rock first off. I'm a PC nerd and one of the ways i've over clocked and reduced power consumption on my laptop is to under-volt the CPU. Basically keeping the clock speed equal, but lowering the voltage to use less power, less heat, less battery. At some point your CPU becomes unstable....
Is anyone actively attempting to do this on the eris? I saw a brief comment by Ivan, but he's not active in the Eris world.. any of you Eris Devs even remotely looking into this? I could point you in the PC direction of how to do this, but I am clueless (and dont have that much time) to teach myself how to go about this in android.
If anyone is trying i'd love to be a beta tester.
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the only clues are outside of the Eris world, but possibly within reach?:
http://androidspin.com/2010/02/19/nexus-one-undervolted-at-stock-speeds/
are these portable?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654416
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I would be interested in this as well. I know the current kernel uses a lower voltage at 480 MHz and below, but it would be nice to go above that while using a lower voltage. Don't know if it's possible.