Update to WM2003, but keep the current radio stack - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Hi everybody,
after trashing one SX56 when trying to upgrade using the ATT provided .exe file (from Siemens), I am thinking of upgrading my replacement SX56 with only the PDA part using the NK.NBF after unzipping. But before I start, I wanted to make sure that I have a guaranteed fail-back with bootloading the 2002 image using the SD card if anything goes wrong.
Has anybody done this successfully?
FYI: My first attempt results in either a white screen when going back to 2002, or a working WM2003 with no radio stack. Running RSUpgrade fails after 1% and asks for reboot, fails after 1% ...
Thanks in advance!
Joerg

If you do an sd card backup through the bootloader on your xda you can always go back, remember though that the sd card will then be in a special format, any further writes to the card by saving files etc will render the backup useless.

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BIG PROBLEM ! I probably damage my SX56 upon his upgrade

Hey everyone. I have big problem and i need a help or somebody who can help me fix my problem. When i use XDA-developers-SER-v12 to upgrade my SX56 my PC freeze up and upgrade wasn't finish . Now i can see on my display only black and white line. Nothing more or less. PPC is not working with my PC
Anybody can help my or give me any adress i can send PPC to fixed (if it's possible) ? Or i don't know what can i do ........... :roll:
Thank for hepl !
sorry my english :?
You need to use sd card flashing method, your phone will be ok, just look around the forum look for sd card flashing.
BIG PROBLEM ! I probably damage my SX56 upon his upgrade
cruisin-thru said:
You need to use sd card flashing method, your phone will be ok, just look around the forum look for sd card flashing.
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OK but how can i reflash my SX56 with SD cadr if I don't have any back up ?
plus everybody has bootloader 5.17 or older but my is 5.22 :-(
Hello,
you have 2 options both use SD card:
1. get ROM backup from any other working XDA.
2. get SD card reader/writer. change the extention of the ROM file you cooked to .zip and use winzip to extract a file named NK.nbf under \english directory. use the SD writer to copy this file to the SD card.
in both cases, insert the SD card into your XDA and use the bootloader.
good luck ...
similar problem last year
Hiya Mike2001,
I had a similar problem last year. I found that while the ActiveSync monitor shows no connectivity you will still be able to transfer an OS image. One hiccup I did find, and I am running wallaby 5.17 by the way, is a version conflict with the proposed rom and existing header information. This is a windows registry problem on your PC caused by the crash which needs to be deleted prior to attempting the upgrade.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
David A. Booth

stupid, stupid

after a upgrade that didn't work (RSU) my xda is dead, after a cold boot the message appears
"wallaby bootloader v5.15" GSM ERROR
after a search in this forum, i found the yorch.net link and bakked a ROM.
What are the protocols to put everything back again, i bought a cardreader and a SD Card, and put the ROM in the card reader and put the copy on the Card. Nothing is working, and now the card reader cannot read the card again,
Did i maked 2 horreble mistakes, a dead xda and card?
sa a you can see i'm a dumbo with these things.
Please help me, of a link to a posting thats working out for me
grettings Jaap de Ridder
[email protected]
To be honest, I think you may have ****ed it. If it says GSM error, I'd presume that you screwed the radio stack, so it's be tuned to a different network/GSM, (e.g. 900, 1800, 1900 etc) I'm still a beginner but if you edit the radio stack, you can't downgrade which would mean it's been set to a different GSM country/code thingy.
I've tried upgrading ROM once but it screwed up first time, but I made sure it wouldn't modify the radio stack. With the ROM's you can downgrade but with the radio stack it's permanent.
Good luck, getting it working...I just hope you haven't killed the stack, but me being a learner still, I only know so much.
I have an SD/MMC card arriving to try to get mine back in action, but time will tell if it's possible.
so ****ed up
hereby i understand that there is no posibillity to work again with my XDA
I have no idea what to now, my knowledge about these things is over my head.
I tryed to make a new rom, but from what and where to ??
In the trashcan with it.
Not so fast. I'm not an expert on this but I have found that almost anything on this unit can be fixed.
I have done what I am telling you nelow and it worked for me.
Download the XDA OS Image Tools application from the xda-developers site (http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools). Burn your rom to an sd card using the XDA OS Image Tools application and your card reader (the application won't work with the card reader on windows 98 but xp and 2000 works fine). Next put the sd card in your xda and go into bootloader mode. It should recognize the OS on the sd card and allow you to flash the xda. Afterward, pull the card out and hard reboot the xda. This should get you up and running. Next, you need to get the radio stack back. This can be done by first determining what stack you want/need to put on the phone (there are a few on http://www.yorch.net in the Upgrades section). Once you've downloaded a radio stack you need to extract out the four files (monitor_ul_bs.m0, monitor_us_bl.map, RSUpgrade.cp64, RSUpgrade.exe). Connect your xda to your pc via activesync and copy the 4 files to your windows directory on the xda. You can also reformat your sd card and copy the four files to the sd card and transfer them to your xda using the sd card slot on the xda. In any event, once you copied the files onto your xda, go into file explorer on your xda find the RSUpgrade.exe file and double click it. It should begin upgrading your radio stack. Afterward, reset your phone and you should have a completely functional xda (oS and radio stack).
Regards,
I forgot to mention that you should make sure the phone portion of your xda is off when you upgrade the radio stack. I caused myself problems upgrading the stack with the phone portion on and it took me a while to get it back working.
and now I'm very confused, because i downloaded the latest XDAtools.exe , i have install these and then, if i go to the OSImageTool, i can browse to.......?? it seams it looking for a file *.nb1 (windows CE) where is that file, i have never made a backup (ROM) from my XDA.
So how i am makeing a booteble ROM
greeting
jaap
Using win2000 prof. NL
Where can i (or from who) download a copy of a working OS PPC 2002 O2-NL in a NB1 format, this to save my XDA
thanks
jaap de ridder
[email protected]
Go to www.yorch.net, choose your rom, uncheck all the additional software, at the bottom left of screen are all options for download, choose the sd card method, once downloaded, write it to your card reader/writer using xdatools then follow instructions from previous person posting.
I did bakked a rom at yorch.net, the XDA downloaded it and after a cold boot, the only screen i get is a blank screen with an icon of a keybord in the right corner in the bottom. nothing is working and the configurationscreen of windows is also not there.
what have i done wrong???
i'm getting deperate now.
greetings
jaap
Can you advise what was happening on the xda while you were flashing the rom? You should have seen numbers at the bottom of your xda increasing incrementally while the flashing process was in progress. Also once the actual flashing was done you should have seen something like "checksum ok" and "cold reboot" (or cold reset). Did you see that?
I think the battery wasn't in full charghe, because during the updateproces the screen was off, he was on 18% of the update that time.
After that, everything is going wrong.
From the sound of it, you didn't flash it using the bootloader process. Using the booloader process the xda should not be connected to the pc at all and the flashing process doesn't show percentages of completion. If your xda screen was off and you saw 18% complete I assume you saw 18% complete on your pc. If so, you were not flashing it via the bootloader. The bootloader process doen't rely onn the pc at all as your xda is never connected to the pc during the process and the screen is always on during the process.
Using xdatools browse and locate your downloaded rom (nb1 file) as your source file.
Then, the destination should be the sd card (not the xda card slot but the sd card reader that you connected - it should show up as a choice if it's properly connected and you're not using windows 98)
Hit the copy button. Once it's done, you have a bootable sd card.
Put the sd card into your xda.
Go into booloader by pressing the power button and soft resetting at the same time.
xda should recognize the sd card and allow you to flash the os.
Try this and see if you can get this far. you have to get to that point to proceed.

Radio Stack upgrade failed in Australia

I'm aware that this is not realy new subject but reading the forum for last two days did not unswered all my questions and Im a newbie so please dont shoot.
I'm assuming that the my xda site before providing the current upgrade to the OS and radio stack they had tested all these and it should be safe to upgrade as with other softeware. Well I was wrong.
The Program A upgrade went OK but when I almost completed loading Program B I got the screen as I would switiched the phone ON and I was asked for my password. I entered my old passward which was not reconginsed two times after which the device rebooted shownig only top bar and keyboard on the bottom right hand corner. I went ot Telstra to check if this is due to my SIM card got freyed but they changed my SIM card to a new only because they have more up to date with lower Voltage requirement and this did not change a thing.
I've tryed Walloby bootloader but after while it displays "GSM ERROR".
I've tryed the power buuton+directional button+ soft reset which gets me to the 4 options
CE ROM TO SD
BOOT TO SD
CE+BOOT TO SD
GSM ROM TO SD
But when I select any of these using the directional button I get that the Card key has failed (I have 64MB MMC card that I bought some time ago and I have or had quite a lot of staff on it). I wander if all this is still t=here as my card reader/writer is asking to insert the card which is already there. I would not mind to get to my old software which had problems but was working or anything to get XDA back on line.
Please help I can not work without my XDA.
New Radio Stack and Telstra + Bootloader
I am running the latest O2 radio stack 4.21 on telstra fine. I used the O2 installation file off their site letting it do the Radio Stack and the O/S. Then I later upgraded the O/S using the SD method, and the Siemens SX56 AT&T branded WM2003 rom image.
With regards to getting yours back up and running - have you tried the "bootloaderfix.bat" file in XDAtools? (make sure you are conencted via activesync when you run it - and dont panic if you see an error message)
Also - you can use XDAtools to copy the Radio Stack image or new ROM image directly to your MMC card. Once bootloaderfix.bat has fixed yor boot loader to 5.15 ust whack in the MMC card with the image - run the bootloader and it will detect the new Image and ask you if you want to install (calls it download) it off the card.
Hope that helps. I spent about 6 hours researching all the above - hope to save some others the time
New Radio Stack and Telstra + Bootloader
Thanks Janos,
I will try the SD method but I have a problem with your suggestion as my Actvesync presently is not recognising XDA. I hope that XDAtools will help.
Would you suggest to use the original or XDAtools -Jeff.exe?
Regards
Rdio Stack
hi,
MY PHONE HAS GSM ERROR IN BOOTLOADER. DOES ANYONE HAVE GSM ROM. ALSO WHEN I PUT IN THE CHARGER, THE CHARGING LAMP DOEN'T TURN ON.
I CHECK ON DEVICE INFORMATION AND SEE THAT rOM VERSION:
3.17.03 ENG
ROM date 05/15/03
Radio Version: Not appear
Protocol version: not appear
DOES ANYONE CAN HELP ME TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. MAYNY THANKS.
HI,
HOW TO copy the Radio Stack image TO SD CARD? THANKS
janos wrote
Also - you can use XDAtools to copy the Radio Stack image or new ROM image directly to your MMC card. Once bootloaderfix.bat has fixed yor boot loader to 5.15 ust whack in the MMC card with the image - run the bootloader and it will detect the new Image and ask you if you want to install (calls it download) it off the card.
i can't radio rom in ur sd but u can copy repair.zip to sd ........... no way to upgrade radio via sd u must us pc monitor ans Rs232 ......... what's hell that mean ?......... use repair.zip .........guy
Hi all,
From my experience, and reading through this forum through long time, when you have "GSM Error" on the bootloader screen, don't try to go any further unless you are expert in soldering and you have a Jtag ship interface. The RSU part controls the ROM and the charging circuet, so it's better to get it repaired by a qualified person.

How to fix failure during upgrading ROM

I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
Seif said:
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
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Bro, you shouldn't change the Sd fat you erased what's written on it anyway your unit is still on the safe side and you can bring it to normal.
First of all downgrade your bootloader to 5.15 >>>
goto this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
rafia said:
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
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You need XDArit to write the rom to your SD read the past post on how to copy rom to your SD which is the safest way of installing the rom into the device, by using XDAtools press on FIX BROKEN BOOTLOADER this will downgrade you bootloader to 5.15 don't forget to connect your unit to the cradle when you want to downgrade.
I recommend 1rst of all to make a quick search in threads to be totaly ready for this
this would help :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6581&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2068&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
Good Luck now.
Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
Good Luck and special thanks to Biso for his help.
Re: Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
Seif said:
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
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Thanks a MILLION for this info. I'm in the same boat, with bootloader 5.22. One question though, when I'm in bootloader mode, which option do I choose from the menu to transfer the ROM to my device from the SD card? Will there be something automatically coming up? Or will I use one of the options listed below:
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE + BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD
5. CE + GSM TO SD
By the way, so I never do anything to ruin my device again, can someone please explain what each option does?? I really don't have a clue.
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
Linger1974 said:
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
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First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck[/quote]
Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?
Linger1974 said:
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?[/quote]
Why to worry about the Rogers Rom you know now a way to unlock your phone.
I assume the Rogers rom is based like the At&t rom which it has the sound clipping bug , so I'd rather say that you could cook a T-mobile rom 4.01.16 WM2003 and try it it does not have the sound clipping bug..

Probs flashing any rom via ntrw with my NEW mdacompact

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Hi everyone,
am deperately needing your advice!!!
Just yesterday I rechieved an exchange mdac from tmobile showing serial version v1.02 when put in bootloader mode(previously v1.01).
When trying to flash whatever rom once transferred via ntrw to my sd card, my mdac does simply nothing but stay in bootloader showing serial v1.02. No flashing like in my old one starts.
On removing the sd card it comes out freshly formatted, before it definately was formatted with raw as usual once working with ntrw.
Result : I can not upgrade my system to mksbigstorage or any other rom like i could with my" old one". (same sd card!!!)
Tried downgrading to an older rom version via original upgrade routine and from there flashing via sd card: same problem!, tried other sd card: no solution either!
Any ideas, solutions, people with the same problems?
:?:
Appreciate your help
Thanx
romflashing
Seems to have nothing to do with flashing routine.
Card simply gets formatted once inserted.
Any way to stop this?
Hi! I have had many problems after flashing and re-flashing my rom.
Try boot loader mode and USB then execute (from your PC)MaupgradeUT_noid with a Shipped_rom on XDA ftp. It may work.
Have a look at this link: http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=32876
Regards
Try to write SD card with winhex not ntrw. Simply choose open disc feature and write file directly do SD it works every time for me (with ntrw it was roulette). I have 1.02 bootloader
Thanks Shamus but can you explain in details how do you do this with Winhex? my bootloader is 1.00
SPV_M500, ROM 1.12.02 FRE
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