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is it possible to..

remote control ma ppc with ma pc via gprs??? how??!??

is there no way to control my pc from my ppc!??!!?
something like remote desktop(windows have..) ??

Most remote control software works using a regular network connection through active sync.
This should thus be possible with pretty much any nework connection, including gprs. Basically just dial gprs, get your phone's ip address, and use that for remote control. I think. In theory. But not fast.
V

Hang on. what are you asking? control you PPC from your PC or vice versa.
Either way, look into VNC.
V

no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
another program?

JuNiOr_Gr said:
no, i just want to control my pc From my ppc. can terminal services in programs do something for that??
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I would have thought so.
You'll need XP pro for the remote desktop server to be built in though. XP home does not have it.
Failing that, VNC, look here: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

You can do this easily via GPRS. Simply connect to the internet via GPRS, and then start up Terminal Services Client on the ppc, insert the ip address of your pc, and step through the authentication dialogue. Of course you will have to make sure that your pc (running WinXP) has World Wide Web Services installed, so as to enable Remote Desktop via the internet.
Hope this helps.

i tried via terminal services , add my ip(of the pc) open the port from router, from my coputer click the allow other people to connect to this pc(also there i added ppc's ip) but could connect. i got an error from ppc.
i am using win xp pro .
i there another application like terminal services ??

VNC?
V

vijay555 said:
VNC?
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couldnt download it
can u tell me which file? that one which sais PocketPC win2003?
i download that and a error came out

Did you enter your PCs IP address as seen on the PC, or did you enter the external internet IP? They are 2 different numbers, and regardless of whether you have ports open or not you wont be able to connect directly to the PCs network IP address.
If you're using an ADSL router then go to the configuration or settings page and find out what your internet IP is.

Re VNC
I've used this one quite well:
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc2.htm
But there are other free versions I imagine.
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@JuNiOr_Gr
Which Port did you open for Terminal Services?
Did you then connect to you Internet IP from your PPC or to your local IP?
If you use VNC you have to open the VNC Port (default 5900).
Ist there a software firewall (e.g. XP Firewall) installed on your PC?

For terminal services to work you must have a password set on your XP account. Otherwise it should work with port 3389 forwarded. I use it fine from my Magician over GPRS.
Only thing is that it's a shame you don't seem to be able to turn off desktop background, themes etc that you can from the Desktop version of Terminal Services Client as this would improve speed.

New Exec Owner - Help Please ....

Hey gurus
being a proud owner of new xda exec (O2 UK) 've got the following questions .....
KINDLY GIVE ME STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS PLS....
1) Wireless Modem --- How can I use my exec's browsing on my laptop either by bluetooth or usb ? I tried with bluetooth where in which I can detect my laptop in my device and i started wireless modem (selecting bluetooth) and clicked 'start'...later from laptop's bluetooth wizard i initiated dial-up-networking and GOT STUCK! wats my user id and password and which number to dial ? i tried giving my mobile number(device mobile number) without any user id and password but with no joy...all i got is error message saying that couldn't connect ....Retry
2) Terminal Client -- All I understood from manufacturer's provided guide and forums is this just like pcAnywhere stuff -- controlling remote computres..... i 'm interested in doing the same with my laptop... I tried here but which server name should i give while configuring it in the device ? even if i give my computer name how on earth it can detect my laptop ? shud i do some config change in my laptop like making it visible externally ???
3) GPRS vs WAP -- My exec is preloaded with both as it comes with Welcome Browse & Download tariff of O2. I've got one ready-made connection under 'My ISP' and 'My Work Network' which are as follows :
My ISP
Name - 'Mobile Web' of type Cellular Line(GPRS, 3G)
Access point -- mobile.o2.co.uk
My Work Netwrk
Name - 'O2 Active' of type Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point -- wap.02.co.uk
As GPRS is charged based on content downloaded where as WAP is charged based on the online duration (correct me if i'm wrong pls )... what should i do if i always wants to use GPRS ? Can i delete 'My work Network' as it's access point is pointing to WAP?? Am i correct in saying this ?? If i delete this wud u see any probs in browsing and other functionalities of my device???
4) Active Sync Support Code 85010014 -- Searched a lot on this nasty bug and all i found is remedy but not the fix
lately i 'm finding myself reinstalling outlook everytime when i want to sync my outlook stuff ?? but no user reported such frequent reinstallations ?? is it something really gone crazy with my outlook ?? btw i installed outlook from the provided cd and synching my lotus notes with it by 'Outlook Connector for Domino' (downloaded from microsoft site).... its practically not feasible to reinstall everytime isn't it i'm looking either to get rid of this nasty bug or other means of synching my lotus notes into my device preferably freeware pls....
Thanks in advance...
Looking forward to your expert replies ...
kasu[/list]

OK, i can give a bit of insite on 2 points
2) For you to be able to connect to a machine remotely with TSC, it must be running Windows XP Pro, Server 2000 or server 2003. and have it enabled under controlpannel > System > Remote Tab.
As names translate to IPs through DNS, the computername should be fine, aslong as your device is on the same network segment (subnet) as the machine you are trying to connect to, otherwise IP is needed.
3 think of WAP as a highway, and GPRS and GSM as the cars. GSM is pay by time, and GPRS is pay by byte. Wap is just the type of connection, and you will need the wap connection to access O2 active (If it is anything like voda, you will only be ableto get O2 active through this, and you will neeed to use the other one for normal net browsing)

heliosfa said:
OK, i can give a bit of insite on 2 points
2) For you to be able to connect to a machine remotely with TSC, it must be running Windows XP Pro, Server 2000 or server 2003. and have it enabled under controlpannel > System > Remote Tab.
As names translate to IPs through DNS, the computername should be fine, aslong as your device is on the same network segment (subnet) as the machine you are trying to connect to, otherwise IP is needed.
3 think of WAP as a highway, and GPRS and GSM as the cars. GSM is pay by time, and GPRS is pay by byte. Wap is just the type of connection, and you will need the wap connection to access O2 active (If it is anything like voda, you will only be ableto get O2 active through this, and you will neeed to use the other one for normal net browsing)
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Thanks heliosfa....'m waiting for other replies aswell...

kasu said:
heliosfa said:
OK, i can give a bit of insite on 2 points
2) For you to be able to connect to a machine remotely with TSC, it must be running Windows XP Pro, Server 2000 or server 2003. and have it enabled under controlpannel > System > Remote Tab.
As names translate to IPs through DNS, the computername should be fine, aslong as your device is on the same network segment (subnet) as the machine you are trying to connect to, otherwise IP is needed.
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Hey
regarding the nasty bug "Synchronization Error 85010014" found info in microsoft active sync faqs ---- http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx
installed AS 4.1 and till now it seems to be working fine.... but frankly i don't trust MICROSOFT products....
lets see ....
try your luck...
Cheers
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Connecting using Remote Web Workplace

I am trying to connect to a SBS 2003 network using Remote Web Workplace thru IE on an XDA Exec. Can initially connect Ok until I try to connect to a server or workstation when I get the message -
This portion of the Remote Web Workplace requires the Microsoft Remote Desktop ActiveX Control. Your browsers security settings may be preventing you from downloading ActiveX controls. Adjust these settings and try to connect again.
Anybody any ideas about this?
On the same vein. I can connect to a server using Terminal Services Client but the desktop comes up so small it is unreadable. Is there any way of telling TSC to make it bigger?

try www.logmein.com
works much better
Paul

pukka said:
try www.logmein.com
works much better
Paul
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Seconded. Incredible program, and utterly free.

Doesn't help me
I look after a lot of customers that use SBS 2003. Remote Web Workplace is built in to the system. This gives me a connection to the server using a web based connection. At this point I then get an option to connect to any servers or workstations on the network. When I choose where to connect to I then get an RDP connection (terminal services)
This I normally do from either base or from my laptop when I am somewhere I can get a connection from. Now and again I need to do it from my Exec - this was the question.
I need to know how to get the activex downloaded to my phone

i've looked everywhere, seriously. -remote desktop

any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!

ok i got it going.
first go to the computer you want to connect to and go to control panel / system
click on remote, enable remote users
go to start menu, run. type cmd
in command write "ipconfig /all"
take note of your ip address
on your phone go to remote desktop,
computer = your ip address
username = (go to startmenu, control panel, user accounts) use one of those names.
password = blank unless you have a password.
domain = i left blank.
connect full color unless it doesnt work for you
if you can connect and you get a password error
type the error you get inot google and you should get a fix as your first link.
try that.
blam, remote desktop, it's awesome.

Nice how-to...
this is the most succinct tutorial on how to do this that I've seen. I'm still having trouble, though. I get the "Cannot connect. Likely reason are: 1 the remote comupter is not set up for this. 2. Reached the maximum number of connections. 3. A network error occurred while connecting."
I have set up the XP PC, & taken down all firewalls. I only have one user account and it has a password. I've even tried using Hamachi with one of their VPN ip addresses (awesome and free for pc2pc). I 've combed trhough my router settings too, and tried to clear everything there, too. I can RD from an XP laptop, so ti seems to be something on the unit, to me. I've also setup file sharing w/ Total Commander (it's served my purposes amply).
I really have googled & googled & googled. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'd be grateful for some ideas.

Have you enabled the RDP on the host computer?
Right click my computer
Properties
Remote
Then enable allow user to connect remotely.

Will only work on XP Pro, or Vista if you choose to allow older clients which they scaremonger you against by saying it's less secure.

Danke!
I've been scared away from Vista for the usual "new" OS reasons, but perhaps it's getting to be time for me to haul my old conservative back-end into the modern world.
Thanks so much for taking the time!
(and to Biohead: yes, I followed the instructions I lauded so vehemently.... ???)

you're running vista?
and you haven't been able to connect still, right?
sorry i could walk you through xp, but man vista sucks, i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

i'm setting up remote desktop on my iphone
hahaha totally referred to this guide

and it sucks, so i'm sticking with vnc
man, i miss my exec/universal

dutchschultz said:
any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524

orb3000 said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
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you, my friend, are awesome

A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Edit Sorry posted this in the wrong thread! Will leave this post up however just in case someone finds it useful

echolock
Many thanks for the above have been searching everywhere for a fix to this. I am the same as you T Mobile (UK) and can't connect.
Could you give some additional advice as how you got the RDP to work.
For the record I can connect by Wi-Fi and by using a PAYG sim from a different carrier. However, I am on a contract with T Mobile and don't want to carry a different sim just to use the RDP.
I have installed both apps. I can make a connection from zaTunnel on Port SSH:24 to the freeSSHD server (SSH - listening on port 24). Other than adding a User and changing the default port to 24 there are no other changes I have made in freeSSHD.
Under the connections tab in zaTunnel I have left Network: Automatic with the other settings relevant to make a connection.
Under the ports tab of zaTunnel I have
LP> 3389,
IP/URL . IP of the desktop I want to connect to of 192.168.1.10
>RP 3389
When I the start the Remote Desktop app under my Windows Mobile 6.1 it indicates connecting the fails as before.
Also forgot to mention freeSSHD is running on the desktop I want to connect to.

Sure thing.
When you run Remote Desktop under Windows Mobile, make sure you connect to "localhost" NOT to the IP of the desktop you want to connect to.
Your other settings seem correct to me.
To attempt to explain a little, basically what happens is as follows. For simplicity's sake I will have three machines, your phone, your SSH server and your RDP server (although the latter two can be the same).
On your phone:
1) Remote Desktop connects to localhost on port 3389.
2) zaTunnel is listening on localhost on port 3389. It echos all commands sent to this port out on port 22 over your cellular connection to your SSH server, also providing details of your RDP server and port.
On your SSH server:
3) FreeSSHd receives the commands sent over port 22 and is told by zaTunnel to convert them to commands sent to your RDP server using port 3389.
On your RDP server:
4) Remote Desktop receives a normal RDP request over the normal port from your SSH server.
5) Responses are sent to your SSH server.
On your SSH server:
6) FreeSSHd receives the RDP responses, and sends them back to your phone over port 22.
On your phone:
7) zaTunnel converts the commands sent over port 22 back into RDP commands sent over port 3389.
8) Remote desktop receives a response from zaTunnel and thinks it's connected directly to an RDP server on localhost. In actuality it's connected to your RDP server using an SSH tunnel provided by zaTunnel and FreeSSHd.
Hope this makes sense, I'm not very good at explaining this!

Ah found another problem. The IP of your desktop you say is 192.168.1.10 - this is a local IP address so will only work on your local network.
Go to a website like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ from the machine you run SSHd on to find out what your current "external" IP address is. Bear in mind that most home broadband connections have a "dynamic" address which is allocated to you and might change from time to time - you can always use something like http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ to set yourself up with a static hostname, and run a program on your machine which updates your hostname with the correct IP address every time it changes. Some routers have this functionality built in.

Thanks for the quick response and explanation.
Between posting and reading your reply I had worked out the RDP app needs the localhost or the IP 127.0.0.1.
I had come back here to post, so others would know in future.
Your other point you raised about the desktop IP. I have used this only in the ports tab on zaTunnel. The connection tab has a proper mydomainname.com address. (Provides email and a webmail interface).
Anyway, can connect now and thank you again in solving this for me. (If your in Leeds I will buy you a beer).

Ah yeah the 192.* address would work on the ports tab, fair enough. Might be worth pointing out if others read this that this is only the case if the machine you're trying to RDP to is on the same local network (or the same machine) as the machine you have FreeSSHd running on.
But good to hear you got it working Now hopefully T-Mobile won't cotton-on and decide to block port 22 too...

Remote Desktop WM6 T-Mobile Wing help

I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.

homiedaclown said:
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.

1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak

1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB

Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb

have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...

I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.

I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...

It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.

yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys

got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...

Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.

remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009