Reasons for upgrading ? - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Hi,
Can anybody tell me the benefits of upgrading the ROM version? I have Spain's Telefonica Movistar XDA (branded as TSM 400) with ROM Version 3.18.10 ESP dated 08/15/03. I'm thinking of upgrading mainly to remove the simlock since I live most of the time in France and I'd like to put an Orange simcard in it.
However, what are the additional benefits of upgrading? I know it's geek and it's cool, but is it really worth the risk? I've read many posts from frustrated users than have ended up with useless PDAs and I don't really feel like it.
But I'm sure I'm missing something important here. Why are you guys taking all that hassle to upgrade? Convince me!!
Thanks.
vIERJa

if you just want to unlock it then this site have a program which if you have a seriel sync cable you can unlock your xda without
flashing or burning anything on your device
a possible reason beside the geekfactor to upgrade ones rom could be that you can place programs you like to use in the rom so they dont take up any of your ram
if you dont mess around with newer radiostacks
and have a sdcard and a sdcard reader for your pc you should not end up with a dead device
and backing up your current rom is a good idea
personaly i havent upgraded yet
but my device were never locked and
i have a 256MB sdcard so i got ok room for
programs for now

I see...
I don't have the sync cable and removing simlock is really important for me...
I do have the card reader and I have already a backup of my ROM.
I'm using a 128Mb card so I don't have storage problems (yet), but I guess programs run faster from ROM than from the SD card...
Risks aside, I use the Spanish dictionnary for SMS writting quite a lot and if I upgrade to an English version I'm afraid I'd lose it... do you (or other readers) know if there's a tool to extract the Dictionnary from a localized ROM and make it available in the ENG versions? That'd be so cool...
vIERJa

I don't have the sync cable and removing simlock is really important for me...
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well they are not expensive
I'm using a 128Mb card so I don't have storage problems (yet), but I guess programs run faster from ROM than from the SD card...
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yep but since the sdcard is not a part of the "working" mem but a part of the storage mem it's only starting them which is slower kinda like having a slower harddisk on a pc
Risks aside, I use the Spanish dictionnary for SMS writting quite a lot and if I upgrade to an English version I'm afraid I'd lose it... do you (or other readers) know if there's a tool to extract the Dictionnary from a localized ROM and make it available in the ENG versions? That'd be so cool...
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read about transfering dictonary files from windows and adding them to their pda and that way changing the language of the dic that way but i also read people who end up messing their spellchecking that way so no dic file is being used the same thing should work on using the dic file from another language version of the xda software[/quote]

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updating my xda rom to a pc2003 rom.... please can you help.

Hi,
I would like to if possible to update my xda rom to a wm2003 rom, so i can use windows voice command.
Please can someone let me know which rom is best to use for stabilty and userablity..
Also instruction how i update the rom once i have got it??? and any advice you can offer during the updating process??
Many Thanks
Zetex
http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
the different guides here should be plenty of help
here is something i copy'd from this site at one poit
Ok here you go, its a little outdated but its what I still use:
Qman's how to use XDArit to write nk.nb1 or nk.nbf to your SD card aka the Bootloader Method!
1. Place XDArit and the nk.nb1 or nk.nbf file in the same folder and start XDArit.
2. Select your SD card (disk drive) from the drop down menu.
3. Select Write to SD
Notice that the Windows CE box is already checked so just click the browse button at the end of that window.
4. Select your (nk.nb1 or nk.nbf) image and then Open
Notice by default XDArit will open looking for a *.nb1 file but if you're going to use a .nbf file you'll have to manually change the "Files of Type" to *.nbf
Notice that nk.nbo / nk.nbo was automatically added as your boot-loader and its check box is unchecked so leave it that way and click OK. XDArit should start writing to the card.
When XDArit has finished writing the image put the SD-card into the XDA and hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
BTW the above is based on using XDArit version 1.0 which can be download from the software section at:
http://www.yorch.net and a PCI USB 3-One Travel Flash reader P/N FPT-D bought at Fry's.
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The 4.01.00 ENG version is here ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21 ..
but be careful as it contains the upgrade for RSU and I 'm not sure
it supports 900/1800 or not since it's TMO upgrade.
If your device has no Radio problems (GSM),
my advice would be to down load the file, use Winzip or WinRAR to
extract the NK.nbf file which the ROM upgrade, put it on SD card and flash your XDA using the bootloader.
PS: if you are sure that your network is 1800 MHz then do NOT use R6.24 for RSU upgrade.
Good luck
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anyway i would get a sdcard and a sdcard reader the price is not all that high for any of them
Hi m8,
Thanks alot for all the information you have given me, I have a 256mb sd card and a card reader in my pc, so i should be ok there....
Which rom would you use or have if you were going to put pc2003 on your xda m8???
Thanks alto
zetex
not sure prob the latest 4.01.00 ENG
and be very sure that it were only the rom and not the
radiostack i were upgrading since i seem to recall that 4.01 is US gsm
but i'm not sure i'm upgrading untill i get more tired of messing with 2002 and what applications i like
then i can complain more about the applications which i really really love and need but dont work with 2003
plus people still report issues with 2003 deleting their sdcard for no reason
so if you give it a go be sure to not have infomation on your sdcard which you dont have back'd up so you can get them back if it mess up
Hi m8,
Thanks once again for your help...
I only really wanted it updated so i can use microsoft voice command, do you know of away of getting this to work on pc2002 o/s?? as i would really like to use this program for when i'am driving around with my job....
any idea's m8
Zetex
sorry no havent messed with voice command at all
i feel strange enough talking about talking on the phone using the
handfree
i get a strong feeling people still think i'm talking to myself
zetex said:
Hi m8,
Thanks once again for your help...
I only really wanted it updated so i can use microsoft voice command, do you know of away of getting this to work on pc2002 o/s?? as i would really like to use this program for when i'am driving around with my job....
any idea's m8
Zetex
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u really dont have a choice u hwav to upgrade to 2003 for that proggy... wait a couple of days we might be lucky and siemens might release the official version (the tentative date is jan 30) if no then there is another thread u can get the fpt address and download version a.30.17 the lates beta version of the att rom2003 version and install that...
all the best also i use the voice proggy and love it start apps with a click of a button and call /see contacts easily... now they need to do is covert voice to text so i dont have to transcribe )
rc,
your making me drool!!!!!! its suppose to be brillant proggy, what rom are you using on your xda...
And if i put a beta pc2003 rom onto my xda will a be able to downgrade and upgrade at a latter date...
Also whats the best file for O2 in the uk???
Thanks alot
Zetex
zetex said:
rc,
your making me drool!!!!!! its suppose to be brillant proggy, what rom are you using on your xda...
And if i put a beta pc2003 rom onto my xda will a be able to downgrade and upgrade at a latter date...
Also whats the best file for O2 in the uk???
Thanks alot
Zetex
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on a later date it will definately be an upgrade as this is still a test version i am using.
not sure about the UK ? as i am new in here myself. look for another thread in this same forum for "looking for testers for a.30.17 att wireless" or something like that read thru and u will see..
as fort me i am using that test versionis much better than the cooked 4.00.5 i was using earlier
alrite mate use vA.30.07 AT&T test rom newest out and its bluddy brill works like a dream cant wait to get the propper update should be cool
its very fast and seems extreamly stable v4.01.00 is stable but is soo slow and seems to make tomtom 2 run slowly as in takes about 3 minutes to start up ect...
get the vA.30.07 rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5492&start=25
worth getting imo
gaz
Gazzaman2k,
Thanks alot m8 for the pointer, people are very helpful here. Starting to learn quite quickly....
With this being a US rom will it be alright on mu UK Xda? and will this rom be ok for my UK O2 phone calls???, are they both in the rom for download???? and how would i install it onto my xda??
lmk m8
Zetex
zetex said:
Gazzaman2k,
Thanks alot m8 for the pointer, people are very helpful here. Starting to learn quite quickly....
With this being a US rom will it be alright on mu UK Xda? and will this rom be ok for my UK O2 phone calls???, are they both in the rom for download???? and how would i install it onto my xda??
lmk m8
Zetex
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On your xda you have 2 things,
the rom, thats your operation system, now pocketpc 2002, you wanted to update it to windows mobile 2003.
And you have the radio rom, this is the "operation system" for your cell phone part of your xda.
If you update to A.30.07, the windows mobile 2003 beta, you leave your radio rom in tact, so you can continue making calls
Also, watch out for those updates what are programs,
because the also update your radio rom,
better use a .nb1 file with xdatools
Hi,
reading with interest,
Zetec is asking most of my questions for me - but one that I'd like to add:
Does the ppc2003 upgrade allow you to control the phone and the pda volume separately (as per the xda II)?
Thanks
xdardd said:
Hi,
reading with interest,
Zetec is asking most of my questions for me - but one that I'd like to add:
Does the ppc2003 upgrade allow you to control the phone and the pda volume separately (as per the xda II)?
Thanks
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yes, I have one slide bar for the phone and one voor the os (music, alarms, etc)
yup dual volume controls also on v4.01.00 it has a tab called band showing 1900mhz or 900mhz this means you then have to loose 1800mhz (but can be brought back in bootloader) on the vA.30.07 there is no tab like this so in other words no need to go into bootloader so you wont loose your 1800mhz
so vA.30.07 is great for countries using 900/1800
gazzaman2k,
I updated the rom last night everything is working just fine, very nice and it runs very smoothly as well.
I have put Tom Tom 2.24 and that seem to work as well, and the speed is great
Just one question what gps driver is best to use because i'am only getting a couple of bars on the gps status???
Also on the phone side i'am getting on my desktop an AT&T WIRELESS tab??? is that right...
And finally what can i use for closing programs from the desktop, making sure they close by tapping the X in the courner of the screen. Because when i close a program they still remain in the programs running under memory tab...
please let em know
Thanks alot
Zetex
zetex said:
gazzaman2k,
I updated the rom last night everything is working just fine, very nice and it runs very smoothly as well.
I have put Tom Tom 2.24 and that seem to work as well, and the speed is great
Just one question what gps driver is best to use because i'am only getting a couple of bars on the gps status???
Also on the phone side i'am getting on my desktop an AT&T WIRELESS tab??? is that right...
And finally what can i use for closing programs from the desktop, making sure they close by tapping the X in the courner of the screen. Because when i close a program they still remain in the programs running under memory tab...
please let em know
Thanks alot
Zetex
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att wireless in today... u seeing it because this rom is from them and they force it in there, no biggie go to the today - items screen in the settings and uncheck it it will be gone,
as for the programs remaining in the memory that is how the OS has been for a while get aversion of POCKETNAV from Scott seligman woreks well to move around the OS and helps u close unwanted proggies
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
also the GPS thing isnot a driver issue it is WM2003 feature ( or drawback u may call it) that the signal meter is poor... it is only the display that is poor the signal strength when u see one single dot is about 40% (i tried the trial version of ipdashboard which will tell u in numbers what the strenght is) so just live with it....
hope it answers most of the ?'s
yeah windowsCE have always mixed the alt tab kind og closing with normal closing i asume that it's to make loading faster if you often use the same stuff
it's a good custom to force programs down once in awhile because if you played quake 1 or 2 and then pacman and the deside to listen to mp3 it's going to sound crack smack and pop
Thanks alot for all you help, you have all been very helpful and i now have a xda1 with wm2003 test rom on it....
oh and not forgetting voice comand, very nice app
just one thing i have notice the radio i have installed is 4.20 could i put 4.21 on it and if so how..
Also when i press the volume button on the side and in some apps the box for highlighting a feature or missing but the function works as if its there... is this just because its a test rom???
Thanks once again, i'am now very much enjoying my xda because of people on this board..
Thanks
Zetex
Zetex, glad to hear the upgrade went succesfully!
Did you use the SD card method described earlier in this thread?
Is your UK 02 phone the version with the 32Meg Rom or the 64?
If it is the 64, does anyone know if the beta ROM fits into the 32 Meg version.
Any news as to whether the final version has come out yet?
Thanks
xdardd

Wizard/MDA Upgrade Procedure...

Some info about my phone
IPL 1.08
SPL 1.08
GSM 01.09.10
OS 1.8.10.2
I would like to upgrade to the latest i-mate rom ( i think ) i don't know any differences with any other roms etc... ive been looking on the other threads maybe if my question has been answered with someone else... i can get pointed to a proper thread, i just want to know what steps i should take to upgrade my rom, i dont wanna lose any data, not that i have much id like to backup my contacts basically thats the most important, also.. since i dont have money for a 128 card right now would it be possible to load someone elses backed up tmobile mda rom ? if they zipped it up and sent it so i can restore it when i get a msd card.. any help is greatly appreciated , thanks in advance.
Copy your contacts by ActiveSyncing them to a PC, or copy your pim.vol (in the root of your Device) to your SD card and upgrade it.
Good luck.
Ahhh
Ah okay now... which rom should I try out first ? and... don't i need to CID unlock it? i'm trying to find a good thread on the upgrade procedures and the best rom to try first.
Best rom...best rom..... the Rom you choose is a personal choice (and yes, you need to CID unlock first IF you want to upgrade to a Rom of another manufacturer, if you have lets say T-Mobile and you want to upgrade to another T-Mobile Rom, you don't have to CID unlock your Wizard).
I like the Qtek Roms myself, but then again, I only use Dutch Roms, not WWE (WorldWideEnglish) Roms, so I have to make a choice between T-Mobile or Qtek and then the choice is simple in my opinion
If you don't know anything about upgrading, my opinion is, try soms official Roms first, then you know what the deal is and then you can make a choice if you maybe want to use a customized Rom like the Mr. Clean Roms for example.
Regards,
Molski
p.s. There are A LOT of threads about upgrading.
Ah thanks for the info... i tried a beta 2.24 rom i think... its pretty nice, i personally cant tell much of a difference,, connmgr is different has more options etc... im thinking of trying mr clean 2.3 is the latest right ? and if i get this does it include all the office apps and such ?
a second question... i dont like the wifi apps included and i noticed an AXIM dell PPC with WM5 had a nice wifi config app/wifi AP finder, and noticed it was made by Hi Tech Computer (HTC) any way to copy this or use it on my phone ?
check my other thread about my CID unlock problem and let me know if i should try to CID unlock it again... and backup... thanks!!

Q : Which is The Lastest ROM for Magician ?

I wanna renew the ROM in my Magician, i looked into the xda-ftp but theres a lot version over there. Which of them is the official and all-in-one one ? The ROM version in my device now is 1.12.00 WWE and the new one should be similar characteristics with this one. Thanx for your help.
Hi, I'm also looking for the same...
And here's what I found: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=342042#342042.
Check the forum "Magician Upgrading" for more info on the topic.
1.13 for ROM and RADIO
look at my signature, i believe i have the latest rom of magician
Thank u for your interest Erwinsie, but by the help of Prerna i solved this problem and reinstalled the ROM.
Marjinal said:
Thank u for your interest Erwinsie, but by the help of Prerna i solved this problem and reinstalled the ROM.
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By the way, I still haven't taken time to upgrade mine. Could you tell what the upgrade changed for you? Do you now have 1.13?
Yes i upgraded to 11300_550_11200 , its very nice , i mean no difference than the old one but its working like a clock, by the way it was a Qtek ROM and after i begin to use the device i realized that the ROM had Clearvue application package inside, it was a nice surprise for me. I installed it the classic way , namely non BigStorage. It was very easy to do, i can advise you to do.
It is indeed a whole lot easier to not BigStorage ROMs, but note that you can still have ClearVue Suite (or any Extended_ROM software that came with the ROM) so long as you back up the Extended_ROM before BigStoraging it. Then afterwards you can manually copy the Extended_ROM files back to your Magician and install them - hence you end up with the same thing as a non-BigStorage Magician + the bonus 20MB Storage.
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It is indeed a whole lot easier to not BigStorage ROMs, but note that you can still have ClearVue Suite (or any Extended_ROM software that came with the ROM) so long as you back up the Extended_ROM before BigStoraging it. Then afterwards you can manually copy the Extended_ROM files back to your Magician and install them - hence you end up with the same thing as a non-BigStorage Magician + the bonus 20MB Storage.
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That sounds good, although the extra work. I really must do that!

Right to upgrade with Voda1605?

I got my Vodafone1605 with wm5 installed. Do I lose my warranty(I bought it from Vodafone) if I apply official HTC WM6 upgrade for Hermes?
in a word, no.
Few things you should do first tho.
First off, if you want to use your phone with other network sim cards try unlocking it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Dont CID unlock though, cos that will remove your warranty. Basicly follow the install procedure, but when it asks what you want to do just tick network unlock.
Then you should install Hard SPL v7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Its a very very simple install that will not screw your warranty, but will allow you to install any rom, be it official or a cooked one and will make it much less likely to brick your phone.
You will probably get bored off the official rom really quickly, so its worth looking at a cooked rom, they offer better features, run faster, take up less room and look a lot better.
Heres two I would recommend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
and keep an eye on this, looks gooood
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363782
One thing you should remember, there is always a risk of ****ing up your phone when upgrading the rom, radio or anything. Hard SPL removes 99.99% of that risk, but there is still always a chance. But there is guides here of what do if anything happens.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Any other questions have a search on the forum, if you cant find anything ask, someone should help.
Hi,
There are no official software up dates for the V1605 available from Vodafone. If you do decide to change the software to something that isn't supported by Vodafone you will in fact invalidate the warranty.
We have explained this in more detail here.
Techgirl
Vodafone UK
Funny how my device was replaced under warranty after id flashed it a dozen times, I just installed the original rom again and now one said a thing.
does the hard spl backup the original rom?
no, hardspl allows you install different roms. If you want to revert to the original rom you can. Its on this site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
Its one of the two english vodafone ones....
I found a CD in the phone package and there are windows mobile 5 geniune stickers and eula and stuff like that, can the original rom be there?
Not likely.
so where can I get the original ROM? It's czech vodafone rom
Czech rom doesnt seem to be on this site, it will be around somewhere tho.
I just managed to get the original rom. So, if I flash now, are you absolutely sure that after the "flash the original rom back" thing they won't recognize anything at the repair service?
PLS, quick reply, I'm deciding whether to get a cashback for the SDHC or to keep it
AVN37 said:
And if I copy THE WHOLE content of the memory card to my HDD, flash some wm6 rom, will it be recognized if I just put those old files back? It won't be like the original, will it?
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The contents of your memory card will still be threr after you flash a newer ROM to the device, the memory card isnt changed at all.
I would recommend you take some time to read through the WIKI PAGES on the hermes before continuing with any upgrades.

Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
AsusP said:
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
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@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.

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