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What is the latest radio upgrade for t-mobile and where can i get it.
My device info. :
Rom ver. : 3.14.40 ENG
Rom date: 11/26/02
Radio ver.:6.18
Protocol ver. :324e4
Thanks :shock:
u have the latest official tmo upgrade
What about unofficial one but 100% working without problems?
u can upgrade it to ATT radio stack if u want. however people had problems reverting back to TMO radio stack. u can upgrade the OS part to 2003 if u want and leave the radio stack as is.
is anybody have the original radio stack for TMO as a file? I am thinking of reverting from At&T stack.
amarandei said:
is anybody have the original radio stack for TMO as a file? I am thinking of reverting from At&T stack.
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As far as I know once you have gone ATT you can't come back....
OR, wait until T-Mobile releases their own upgrade
any word if they will release an upgrade and if so will it contain the radio stack. I found the At&t stack kind of buggy. Maybe it's just where I am but the GPRS will droput for no reason and then I loose voice also and it will not come back until I do a soft reset.
amarandei said:
any word if they will release an upgrade and if so will it contain the radio stack. I found the At&t stack kind of buggy. Maybe it's just where I am but the GPRS will droput for no reason and then I loose voice also and it will not come back until I do a soft reset.
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According to Lazarus ( an ATT Network Guru) the ATT radio stack has been tweaked and optimized for ATT's network, so that would explain why others have experienced trouble....
Oh shoot, I wish I have read this post before I upgrade to the ATT radio stack. Couldn't we simply download the latest ROM from T-Mobile and revert back to the T-mobile radio stack and rom?
I tried it just crashes right after it starts. It basically says that it can't upgrade because the radio stack you have is already higher. Guess we got to wait for TMo to release something higher. I am at A.20.10 and 4.00.01Eng for os.
Try running the "Adaptrom" program in your T-mobile application upgrade folder.
amarandei said:
I tried it just crashes right after it starts. It basically says that it can't upgrade because the radio stack you have is already higher. Guess we got to wait for TMo to release something higher. I am at A.20.10 and 4.00.01Eng for os.
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it has nothing to do with adaptrom. radio stack kicks in after u flash back the OS ROM
I'd keep the ATT stack
If you use the T-mobile (US) radio stack with windows mobile 2003, you don't get always on GPRS, so I'd stick with the ATT stack for now (and I have!).
cheers,
..lance
ATT radio works fine for me too. It is more that the network drops you or you lose data connection between cells, or the network has a load balance that give placement to voice users over data when bandwidth is needed. Not so much that your radio stack does it.
On the other hand just incase anyone wants to prove my theory wrong :wink: has anyone in the US upgraded their radio stack to O2 4.21 and experienced a better performance than AT&T's radio stack :?: This means you probably already had to manually switch the default band 8) first?
Let me know I love to be wrong :shock: ......I'm only that much smarter than I was yesterday :roll: :lol:
I think 4.21 would only work in Europe. You'll probably get no signal after you upgrade from At&t stack. I am going to stick with At&t i think I just got crappy coverage in the area that's all.
@amarandei
4.21 works great here in austria with t-mobile. i have gprs always on (on now since i rebooted 3 days ago).
and if it needs to be connected that works WAYS faster that before (with 2002 and 3.16)
converning speed i can't say anything positive nor negative. it just works. sometimes slower sometimes faster.
servus ize|man
TMO radio stack installation
I have TMO radio version 6.02
I downloaded the latest update from TMO (US) which claimed it would upgrade the radio but it did not appear to update the radio stack. Could that be becaues I am running the developers rom and it thinks I have a more recent version? If so how can I update the radio stack without having to go back to the old rom first?
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I broke my phone!!!
I applied the wm2003 rom to my T-mobile no problems
I installed the 4.21 radio update - went ok
when the unit came up - I get no signal
unit seems slow - now and I can not access the phone app to look at settings
I went into bootloader and selected 1900 did softreset - no change
reverted to XDA-DEV ROM 1.2 - loaded ok
but still no signal
Sounds like you installed the wrong Radio Stack!
What model is your XDA and where are you located :?:
radio stacks
I am in Texas on T-Mobile installed 4.21 radio stack
Re: radio stacks
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I am in Texas on T-Mobile installed 4.21 radio stack
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Yeap thats the wrong one you need to install the AT&T version.
Take a look at the below PocketPC Passion thread for more info and download URL.
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34286
Just to let you know you're going to have to install both the AT&T ROM and Radio stack then re-install wm2003.
Can you still sync with your PC? I sure how so, if not there are some step that need to be done in order to get that back up and running.
Also confirming that as of right now your radio is dead/off/No signal meaing there is an "X" on the Phone Icon?
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Tom- Are you sure you want to do this? I beleive that 6.24 is a beta version. I haven't heard a lot of feedback on it, but I have heard that going back to 6.18 is going to be near if not impossible after the upgrade.
I held off on the radio stack upgrade because I don't want the official T-Mobile upgrade to have issues. By only upgrading the OS, I can easily re-flash to the original factory rom before running the official T-Mobile upgrade when it is released. That upgrade could potentially fail if the radio stack upgrade portion detects a version other than the official ones that it expects. Not sure on this though...
Either way, below is a link to an RAR file that has the OS and the radio stack. Extract the .EXE using WinRAR or the like and give it a go. Just to be on the safe side, I wouldn't run this update on any other OS than the last official T-Mobile upgrade.
Good Luck
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar
trhuseby,
did you try the new t-mobile as indicated by digital_1? I am tempted to try it also and wanted to know your results...thanks!
I'm going to wait until the formal release from T-Mobile, just too afraid I won't be able to upgrade to it if I try the beta above.
trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Like digital_1 stated its a pain to downgrade the radio stack so be absolutely sure you what to do it and will be happy with the results.
What I would do first is find somebody in my area that has already
done the upgrade and see what their reception / performance is like.
In most case the reception/performance should be better.
As for me I found the the AT&T radio stack was much better in my area (Las Vegas, NV) than the T-Mobile stack and is my radio stack of choice with that said I'll be staying with it no matter whats to come. No more radio stack upgrades for me.
So if you upgrade to 6.24 and it works good in your area stay with it no matter what!
Warning the signal meter is known to show lower signal strength but actually the reception / performance is better than what is being shown.
Anyhow once you have the needed files follow the below to upgrade:
Copy RSUpgrade.exe, RSUpgrade.cp64
,monitor_ul_bs.map and monitor_ul_bs.m0 to your devices windows root folder then from Pocket File Explore double tap RSUpgrade.exe and this will start the radio upgrade.
HTH
digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!
obelcher said:
digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!
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obelcher-
I don't want to give the wrong impression- I've never ran this update nor probably will I because I don't want to mess up my radio stack. Remember- that this .EXE will upgrade your radio stack, and as Qman pointed out in another thread, it is difficult if not impossible to downgrade the stack if it doesn't work out. Make sure you read all the posts in this thread so that you are well educated on the risks/advantages. That being said...
I would reflash the phone back to the latest official T-Mobile release before running the update. 4.00.11ENG isn't an official T-Mobile release- it's beta. I think the last official version (at least for me in US) was 3.08 (or 3.14.40 if you ran the update from T-Mobile).
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Wasnt somebody offering an XDA free to anybody that had a downgrade radio stack solution, if its easy why would they do that?
trhuseby said:
Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
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Don't do it!
Radio stack 6.18 is not a separate upgrade like 6.24 is, 6.18 is included in the ROM update. You'll be sorry if you do!
HTH
Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!
chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Have you actually tried this before? Going from 6.24 back to 6.18?
I am under the understanding that the radio upgrade is a forward-only process- meaning that it will check to make sure that an earlier version of the RSU isn't overwriting a more current version. Based on reading posts here, it has nothing to do with version numbers but something internally coded.
Regarding the free XDA- well cruisin-thru was right. The thread is marked "FREE XDA". They are offering a free XDA to someone who can downgrade a radio stack. None have claimed the XDA to date!
Well I tried the 6.24 radio stack and ended up going back to AT&T's A20 stack.
Had no problem at all, just put the 4 files people say in these forums into the windows folder of the XDA and run the EXE file. a few minutes later it is done, and you do a hard reset and everything is fine.
6.24 Radio Stack
Can someone tell me where I can get just the 6.24 radio stack without the 4.00.16 ROM?
I've been running 6.24 since yesterday and I the thing I like the best is the ability for the GPRS to stay on while the PDA is off (i.e. display blank). This allows me to wireless activesync and download my IMAP accounts in the background without me having to turn on the unit.. Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...
I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM update at
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar which includes the 6.24 radio and 4.00.10. To install, REMOVE YOUR XDA FROM THE CRADLE. Unzip the file, and then cancel out. It creates a directory called RUU under Program Files. Place your xda back on the cradle and copy the two files entitled monitor_ul_bs and the two files entitled RSUpgrade from the RUU\English directory to the Windows directory on your xda. Then execute the RSUpgrade executable file on the xda. This will install the 6.24 radio. Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
David"
Hal.
trhuseby said:
Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!
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I thought we were talking about reverting back to radio stack v6.18 which would be a down grade! :wink:
trhuseby said:
Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...
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FYI- I get that with the old 6.18 stack sometimes too. May not be releated to the RSU.
Startup said:
I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM... Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
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I will say this is absolutely the best Radio Stack I've had! No problems except if I have my earphone plugged in and I'm using my wireless car radio transmitter for mp3s plugged in. It seems to think it is to engage the speakerphone, but it is also trying to use the hands free microphone.... resulting in you need to unplug the hands free and the transmitter plug. Than again it could be i designed the transmitter and plug wrong in some way... :roll:
Anyway, I didn't need to do a hard resit, but a soft one was needed.
I recently purchased an Unlocked T-mobile phone. My AT&T sim seems to work fine but I WANT voice command and the added speed.
on Yorch, I notice there are 3 choices
4.00.05 seems like a generic
4.00,10 A Tmobile release
4.00.16 Anothe Tmobile
I have heard that T-mobile builds have more truoble on AT&T network. should I go with .05? or will one of the T-mobiles work OK.
If I go with a T-mobile, should I still use the AT&T radio Stack?
Thanks,
Matt
ATT has the most stable radio stack so don't touch it. You can try each ROM if you like. Make sure you create a backup of your current ROM so you can go back just in case. Since those are all USA ROMS you can pick whichever one you one, your location in the USA has no effect. Personally, I like the generic ROM for it allows ATT to display the "G" which signifies internet capability. Plus, you have more room to cram in more apps. The Tmob ROMS are full of crap you won't use. Have fun.
Yea go with 4.00.05 I was going to suggest 4.00.11 but I see Jeff's ROM Kitchen is still offline. Also I agree valheru on keeping the AT&T RS.
HTH
Thanks for the feedback.
I think I'm running a T-Mobile Radio Stack. 6.18.00
Is this AT&T? or T-Mobile?
Uh, if you have the Tmobile radio stack then it is a Tmobile radio stack. Reboot your device and tell us what it says.
From the device settings it says : 6.18.00
Yeap thats a T-Mobile radio stack!
Also confirming you got that info. from going to Start, Settings, System, Device Information?
right, device information....
I tried to unzip the latest AT&T radio stack from Yorch.net, but it had a password. Any help there?
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right, device information....
I tried to unzip the latest AT&T radio stack from Yorch.net, but it had a password. Any help there?
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Send me a PM with a valid email address and I'll forward you a copy of the AT&T RS.
HTH
Hi all,
I currently have the HTC Tytn with the original ROM on it. I'm on Cingular's network, and am having the problem where the call either gets dropped completely or temporarily when the phone tries to "hand off" 3G to 2G. Are any of the radio-only upgrades that are on the ftp supposed to address this issue? I'm not looking to change the ROM. I'm currently on radio verion 1.03
Thanks in advance!
SP
I have a TyTn on Cingular as well. I upgraded to 1.20 radio ROM and haven't experienced any problems you're having moving to/from 3G areas.
Hi sf,
Thanks for the reply... are you also still on the original Tytn ROM as well? (for everything else but the radio...)
yes, i'm on the original HTC ROM, just upgraded the radio.
The best combination is the original HTC ROM + 1.16 RadioROM from what I have heard around ..
Great, thanks a ton guys. I'll give it a whirl.
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The best combination is the original HTC ROM + 1.16 RadioROM from what I have heard around ..
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I'm having much better battery performance with the HTC ROM and the 1.20 radio than I did with the 1.16 radio.
Goesto11, did you have any installation problems during or after the install with the 1.20 radio? I read a couple other posts where some additional tweaks needed to be made afterwards, but I'm thinking now that that was with the Cingular ROM.
Thanks,
SP
1.20 Radio was actually from the latest iMate ROM from what I remember .. might want to verify ..
latest Cingular RadioROM was 1.16 ..
Thanks GJ.
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Goesto11, did you have any installation problems during or after the install with the 1.20 radio? I read a couple other posts where some additional tweaks needed to be made afterwards, but I'm thinking now that that was with the Cingular ROM.
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Nope, no installation problems at all (follow the directions and you should be fine).
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1.20 Radio was actually from the latest iMate ROM from what I remember .. might want to verify ..
latest Cingular RadioROM was 1.16 ..
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Yup, it's from the latest i-Mate ROM
stpete111 said:
Hi all,
I currently have the HTC Tytn with the original ROM on it. I'm on Cingular's network, and am having the problem where the call either gets dropped completely or temporarily when the phone tries to "hand off" 3G to 2G. Are any of the radio-only upgrades that are on the ftp supposed to address this issue? I'm not looking to change the ROM. I'm currently on radio verion 1.03
Thanks in advance!
SP
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I am wondering the same thing. I upgraded, but I haven't driven through any of the troubled areas yet. I guess we'll see on the drive home.
I'll install it today and report on it asap. A particular area that I go through on the way home from work attempts the hand off a good 80% of the time.
Oh yeah, one more (stupid) question...
If I install the 1.20 radio, then later end up doing a hard reset... after the hard-reset, will I end up with the original HTC radio, or the updated one?
Good question .. You will then always have an updated RadioROM .. even after a hard reset
Ok cool, thanks. I'm glad it was a relatively not-too-stupid question
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Good question .. You will then always have an updated RadioROM .. even after a hard reset
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Yeah, I did this yesterday. Your updated Radio ROM sticks with the device.
But what about installing an entirely new ROM; this overwrites the radio ROM right?
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Yeah, I did this yesterday. Your updated Radio ROM sticks with the device.
But what about installing an entirely new ROM; this overwrites the radio ROM right?
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Yes, this is correct. A "normal/standard" ROM update will overwrite the System ROM, the Extended ROM, and the Radio ROM.
I can't seem to dowload a good file to unzip. It says "not a valid pocketpc app".
The ROM updates need to be run from a WinXP PC with an ActiveSync/USB connection to the Hermes...
and remember, Flashing can be a dangerous business, even if you know what you're doing... use at your own risk!