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Hi
What is the latest radio upgrade for t-mobile and where can i get it.
My device info. :
Rom ver. : 3.14.40 ENG
Rom date: 11/26/02
Radio ver.:6.18
Protocol ver. :324e4
Thanks :shock:
u have the latest official tmo upgrade
What about unofficial one but 100% working without problems?
u can upgrade it to ATT radio stack if u want. however people had problems reverting back to TMO radio stack. u can upgrade the OS part to 2003 if u want and leave the radio stack as is.
is anybody have the original radio stack for TMO as a file? I am thinking of reverting from At&T stack.
amarandei said:
is anybody have the original radio stack for TMO as a file? I am thinking of reverting from At&T stack.
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As far as I know once you have gone ATT you can't come back....
OR, wait until T-Mobile releases their own upgrade
any word if they will release an upgrade and if so will it contain the radio stack. I found the At&t stack kind of buggy. Maybe it's just where I am but the GPRS will droput for no reason and then I loose voice also and it will not come back until I do a soft reset.
amarandei said:
any word if they will release an upgrade and if so will it contain the radio stack. I found the At&t stack kind of buggy. Maybe it's just where I am but the GPRS will droput for no reason and then I loose voice also and it will not come back until I do a soft reset.
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According to Lazarus ( an ATT Network Guru) the ATT radio stack has been tweaked and optimized for ATT's network, so that would explain why others have experienced trouble....
Oh shoot, I wish I have read this post before I upgrade to the ATT radio stack. Couldn't we simply download the latest ROM from T-Mobile and revert back to the T-mobile radio stack and rom?
I tried it just crashes right after it starts. It basically says that it can't upgrade because the radio stack you have is already higher. Guess we got to wait for TMo to release something higher. I am at A.20.10 and 4.00.01Eng for os.
Try running the "Adaptrom" program in your T-mobile application upgrade folder.
amarandei said:
I tried it just crashes right after it starts. It basically says that it can't upgrade because the radio stack you have is already higher. Guess we got to wait for TMo to release something higher. I am at A.20.10 and 4.00.01Eng for os.
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it has nothing to do with adaptrom. radio stack kicks in after u flash back the OS ROM
I'd keep the ATT stack
If you use the T-mobile (US) radio stack with windows mobile 2003, you don't get always on GPRS, so I'd stick with the ATT stack for now (and I have!).
cheers,
..lance
ATT radio works fine for me too. It is more that the network drops you or you lose data connection between cells, or the network has a load balance that give placement to voice users over data when bandwidth is needed. Not so much that your radio stack does it.
On the other hand just incase anyone wants to prove my theory wrong :wink: has anyone in the US upgraded their radio stack to O2 4.21 and experienced a better performance than AT&T's radio stack :?: This means you probably already had to manually switch the default band 8) first?
Let me know I love to be wrong :shock: ......I'm only that much smarter than I was yesterday :roll: :lol:
I think 4.21 would only work in Europe. You'll probably get no signal after you upgrade from At&t stack. I am going to stick with At&t i think I just got crappy coverage in the area that's all.
@amarandei
4.21 works great here in austria with t-mobile. i have gprs always on (on now since i rebooted 3 days ago).
and if it needs to be connected that works WAYS faster that before (with 2002 and 3.16)
converning speed i can't say anything positive nor negative. it just works. sometimes slower sometimes faster.
servus ize|man
TMO radio stack installation
I have TMO radio version 6.02
I downloaded the latest update from TMO (US) which claimed it would upgrade the radio but it did not appear to update the radio stack. Could that be becaues I am running the developers rom and it thinks I have a more recent version? If so how can I update the radio stack without having to go back to the old rom first?
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Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Tom- Are you sure you want to do this? I beleive that 6.24 is a beta version. I haven't heard a lot of feedback on it, but I have heard that going back to 6.18 is going to be near if not impossible after the upgrade.
I held off on the radio stack upgrade because I don't want the official T-Mobile upgrade to have issues. By only upgrading the OS, I can easily re-flash to the original factory rom before running the official T-Mobile upgrade when it is released. That upgrade could potentially fail if the radio stack upgrade portion detects a version other than the official ones that it expects. Not sure on this though...
Either way, below is a link to an RAR file that has the OS and the radio stack. Extract the .EXE using WinRAR or the like and give it a go. Just to be on the safe side, I wouldn't run this update on any other OS than the last official T-Mobile upgrade.
Good Luck
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar
trhuseby,
did you try the new t-mobile as indicated by digital_1? I am tempted to try it also and wanted to know your results...thanks!
I'm going to wait until the formal release from T-Mobile, just too afraid I won't be able to upgrade to it if I try the beta above.
trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Like digital_1 stated its a pain to downgrade the radio stack so be absolutely sure you what to do it and will be happy with the results.
What I would do first is find somebody in my area that has already
done the upgrade and see what their reception / performance is like.
In most case the reception/performance should be better.
As for me I found the the AT&T radio stack was much better in my area (Las Vegas, NV) than the T-Mobile stack and is my radio stack of choice with that said I'll be staying with it no matter whats to come. No more radio stack upgrades for me.
So if you upgrade to 6.24 and it works good in your area stay with it no matter what!
Warning the signal meter is known to show lower signal strength but actually the reception / performance is better than what is being shown.
Anyhow once you have the needed files follow the below to upgrade:
Copy RSUpgrade.exe, RSUpgrade.cp64
,monitor_ul_bs.map and monitor_ul_bs.m0 to your devices windows root folder then from Pocket File Explore double tap RSUpgrade.exe and this will start the radio upgrade.
HTH
digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!
obelcher said:
digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!
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obelcher-
I don't want to give the wrong impression- I've never ran this update nor probably will I because I don't want to mess up my radio stack. Remember- that this .EXE will upgrade your radio stack, and as Qman pointed out in another thread, it is difficult if not impossible to downgrade the stack if it doesn't work out. Make sure you read all the posts in this thread so that you are well educated on the risks/advantages. That being said...
I would reflash the phone back to the latest official T-Mobile release before running the update. 4.00.11ENG isn't an official T-Mobile release- it's beta. I think the last official version (at least for me in US) was 3.08 (or 3.14.40 if you ran the update from T-Mobile).
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Wasnt somebody offering an XDA free to anybody that had a downgrade radio stack solution, if its easy why would they do that?
trhuseby said:
Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
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Don't do it!
Radio stack 6.18 is not a separate upgrade like 6.24 is, 6.18 is included in the ROM update. You'll be sorry if you do!
HTH
Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!
chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Have you actually tried this before? Going from 6.24 back to 6.18?
I am under the understanding that the radio upgrade is a forward-only process- meaning that it will check to make sure that an earlier version of the RSU isn't overwriting a more current version. Based on reading posts here, it has nothing to do with version numbers but something internally coded.
Regarding the free XDA- well cruisin-thru was right. The thread is marked "FREE XDA". They are offering a free XDA to someone who can downgrade a radio stack. None have claimed the XDA to date!
Well I tried the 6.24 radio stack and ended up going back to AT&T's A20 stack.
Had no problem at all, just put the 4 files people say in these forums into the windows folder of the XDA and run the EXE file. a few minutes later it is done, and you do a hard reset and everything is fine.
6.24 Radio Stack
Can someone tell me where I can get just the 6.24 radio stack without the 4.00.16 ROM?
I've been running 6.24 since yesterday and I the thing I like the best is the ability for the GPRS to stay on while the PDA is off (i.e. display blank). This allows me to wireless activesync and download my IMAP accounts in the background without me having to turn on the unit.. Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...
I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM update at
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar which includes the 6.24 radio and 4.00.10. To install, REMOVE YOUR XDA FROM THE CRADLE. Unzip the file, and then cancel out. It creates a directory called RUU under Program Files. Place your xda back on the cradle and copy the two files entitled monitor_ul_bs and the two files entitled RSUpgrade from the RUU\English directory to the Windows directory on your xda. Then execute the RSUpgrade executable file on the xda. This will install the 6.24 radio. Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
David"
Hal.
trhuseby said:
Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!
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I thought we were talking about reverting back to radio stack v6.18 which would be a down grade! :wink:
trhuseby said:
Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...
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FYI- I get that with the old 6.18 stack sometimes too. May not be releated to the RSU.
Startup said:
I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM... Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
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I will say this is absolutely the best Radio Stack I've had! No problems except if I have my earphone plugged in and I'm using my wireless car radio transmitter for mp3s plugged in. It seems to think it is to engage the speakerphone, but it is also trying to use the hands free microphone.... resulting in you need to unplug the hands free and the transmitter plug. Than again it could be i designed the transmitter and plug wrong in some way... :roll:
Anyway, I didn't need to do a hard resit, but a soft one was needed.
Anybody knows how to unlock the T-Mobile XDA with this radio stack. I have downgraded by ROM to 3.17 but the XDAUnlock still wouldn't work. I get Error Getting Unlock Code. Based on what I see it does not seem to be a good idea to downgrade the RSU. If I do downgrade I can't find how to upgrade the RSU back to the current version.
1. Any help?
2. Will the XDAUnlock be modified to support this radio stack?
I agree with you it's not safe to flash the RSU, but if it's the only way then you will have to do it ... or it's better to get the lock key from your operator.
I downgraded the RSU...
Worked!
I tried unlocking the phone...
Worked!
Now I see no signal.... Do I have to upgrade the RSU again?
If so how can I do that?
thanks in advance for your help!!!
Upgraded Radio from uspocketpcphone.com and it worked!!!!!
HI. if you are trying to upgrade the radio stack, make sure that the radio stack is built for what kind of WM OS. For example, if you downgrade or upgrade the radio stack that you with Tmoble, make sure that the radio stack must support you Tmobile OS. I have tried may times and found out that AT And T just suits for AT&T rom, Tmobile, just for Tmobile rom, O2 must for O2 Rom. There is no way that you can swap one radio stack to another rom.
Again, I don't have radio stack 6.25 but I have radio stack 6.24 for Tmoble. I will upload if you need it.
Again, if you don't mind, can upload the radio stack 3.17 for me. thanks.
Please download here:
You were right!!!
I wish I could have read your post earlier.
I upgraded the radio on my own phone (i was working on my friends phone yesterday). Then there was no signal.
I tried downgrading to 3.17 (on yorch.net) and it froze and now my phone is dead. it restarted but it shows no radio version and no signal.
any ideas???
Diki said:
You were right!!!
I wish I could have read your post earlier.
I upgraded the radio on my own phone (i was working on my friends phone yesterday). Then there was no signal.
I tried downgrading to 3.17 (on yorch.net) and it froze and now my phone is dead. it restarted but it shows no radio version and no signal.
any ideas???
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nice try, you killed your phone!
R I P
Have been to the kitchen and done some cooking the last night.
Facts:Using SD card for all upgrades
Never cook anything but the Base ROM itself (e.g. no extras)
The upgrade works perfect every time, meaning it ends successfully so that I can do a cold boot to start the "new" ROM image.
ROM version org: 3.16
Current ROM: 3.20.06 ENG
Radio version: 3.19.01
Protocol version: 32S54
Model No: PW10A1
RAM: 32MB
Flash size: 32MB
SD Card size: 64MB
I have been able to switch back and forth between different 2002 ROM's
but every time I upgrade to 2003 ROM the unit hangs on the introductions screen. I see the splash for instans 4.01.19: s "Welcome to T-Mobile"
In the bottom right corner I can see the Protocol version, ROM version and Radio version numbers. BUT there it is and it does not respond to any buttons or even magic words like pretty please with suger on top.
I have tried the following versions:
4.00.33 GER, 4.01.00 ENG, 4.01.16 ENG and A.30.09 ENG
I have no problem getting back to a working unit with almost any 2002 ROM but hey I wanna try it out with a 2003 ROM.
Any ideas anyone? I have been looking around quit a bit but cant see that anyone posted something that helps me out here.
Thanks to everyone who contributes to this great forum!
Jonas
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not sure but maybe the 32MB ram is too little for 2003
these devices are pretty rare i think
maybe you should try doing a search for people with 32MB devices
and their exp with 2003 ?
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not sure but maybe the 32MB ram is too little for 2003
these devices are pretty rare i think
maybe you should try doing a search for people with 32MB devices
and their exp with 2003 ?
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The 32 MB shouldn't be the problem. Using myself a device with only 32 MB without any problems with WM2003 .....
Maybe it's a problem with the Radio Stack...
Nearly all the providers of a WM2003 Release included a Radio Stack Update. Myself i've tested it with the 4.21 and the 3.23. Maybe yours 3.19. is just too old.....
Stefan
Ok, here we go again,
found the Radio Stack Upgrade from O2 uk (V421)
and upgraded witout problem to this one.
No I tried to upgrade with 2003 ROM 4.01.16 ENG but still same thing.
It hangs on boot screen even though it now in the lower right corner says:
G32S54
R4.21.00
4.01.16
I will try to load ROM A.30.09 ENG now.
I let you know how it goes.
/Jonas
Still no luck
Ok I have now tried will all known 2003 ROMs from the kitchen with the same sad result. (hang on boot screen as before)
I now downloaded the official O2 uk release of upgrade for XDAII (Xda_II_Upgrade_v16050.exe) when I unpack this one I find the following files that might be useful ms_.nbf, NK.nbf, Radio_.nbf.
When I try to write the NK.nbf to my SD card XDATools tells me that it does not recognize the file format.
I think I have seen something about this error but I cant find it now.
Im not even sure if this ROM will work. I can not see that this ROM is uploaded in the kitchen either but perhaps it will be?
So Im still stuck so any tips would be great and I keep testing new ways ahead.
/Jonas
hi. as LumpiStefan commended, you need to upgrade the latest radio stack. I think the radio stack 6.24 will work for you. check my posted for the radio stack.
Secondly, the radio stack will work it its specific OS rom image. for example, the radio stack for Tmoble , must match the Tmobile OS. you can not use radio stack built for O2 for Tmobile OS.
Therefore, try to upgrade with matching OS and its Radio Stack. I tried one night with all OS from Tmobile, ATT and OS to come with these solutions.
hoanghon said:
you need to upgrade the latest radio stack. I think the radio stack 6.24 will work for you. check my posted for the radio stack.
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That´s wrong. 6.24 is for PW10B Models with 900/1900 MHz GSM. Do not use it on your device
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Secondly, the radio stack will work it its specific OS rom image. for example, the radio stack for Tmoble , must match the Tmobile OS. you can not use radio stack built for O2 for Tmobile OS.
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That´s wrong too. Already used some T-Mobile ROMS with O2 Radiostack....
Stefan
hi LumpiStefan,
Okay. I am wrong. this radio stack use in USA.
Also, I don't know but I had tried to swap the radio stack O2 to run on Tmobile or ATT, the radio stack never turn On.
Also can you help me to have a radio stack version 4.20 or lower. ther repair.zip contain version 4.21. Thanks for correcting me.
hi guy, trying to upgrade my daughters xda. it has t-mobile 4.01.00 eng radio 4.21.x1
i have cooked a wm2003se rom from lumpistefan and when i try to use ostools i get incorrect file size, if i use activsynch and run the exe i get communication failure.
i am tearing my hair out as the problem is it drops the gsm signal and doesnt get it back without searching for the network. it may just need a radio upgrade and if so what is the current uk gsm radio stack?
cheers.
I think 4.21 is the latest radio stack. I have upgraded an xda with the same radio and rom as you without problems, however I downgraded back to 2002 as I had too many problems with wm2003se.
Are you using a usb hub, if you are then try plugging direct to usb port.
I have always had signal problems with O2 on my xda also, never found a cure, I just check it regularly, also I changed the network from auto to manual and it seemed to work better.
smallboy said:
i have cooked a wm2003se rom from lumpistefan and when i try to use ostools i get incorrect file size, if i use activsynch and run the exe i get communication failure.
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Wm2003SE could only be upgraded via EXE-file. If you got an error 011, you have to downgrade your existing ROM first....
Stefan
Once I had a worse problem - while upgrading to SE the statusbar stopped at 0% and after a short time I got an error even though the connection was OK from the beginning. Downgrade really helped.