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How do you upgrade your radio stack?

Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby

trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Tom- Are you sure you want to do this? I beleive that 6.24 is a beta version. I haven't heard a lot of feedback on it, but I have heard that going back to 6.18 is going to be near if not impossible after the upgrade.
I held off on the radio stack upgrade because I don't want the official T-Mobile upgrade to have issues. By only upgrading the OS, I can easily re-flash to the original factory rom before running the official T-Mobile upgrade when it is released. That upgrade could potentially fail if the radio stack upgrade portion detects a version other than the official ones that it expects. Not sure on this though...
Either way, below is a link to an RAR file that has the OS and the radio stack. Extract the .EXE using WinRAR or the like and give it a go. Just to be on the safe side, I wouldn't run this update on any other OS than the last official T-Mobile upgrade.
Good Luck
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar

trhuseby,
did you try the new t-mobile as indicated by digital_1? I am tempted to try it also and wanted to know your results...thanks!

I'm going to wait until the formal release from T-Mobile, just too afraid I won't be able to upgrade to it if I try the beta above.

trhuseby said:
Many people have said that their running t-mobile radio version 6.24, I'm currently on 6.18 and want the always on GPRS. I've searched the site but can't find where to get the radio stack and how to upgrade it? I already upgraded to ROM 4.00.16 and it works great.
-Tom Huseby
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Like digital_1 stated its a pain to downgrade the radio stack so be absolutely sure you what to do it and will be happy with the results.
What I would do first is find somebody in my area that has already
done the upgrade and see what their reception / performance is like.
In most case the reception/performance should be better.
As for me I found the the AT&T radio stack was much better in my area (Las Vegas, NV) than the T-Mobile stack and is my radio stack of choice with that said I'll be staying with it no matter whats to come. No more radio stack upgrades for me.
So if you upgrade to 6.24 and it works good in your area stay with it no matter what!
Warning the signal meter is known to show lower signal strength but actually the reception / performance is better than what is being shown.
Anyhow once you have the needed files follow the below to upgrade:
Copy RSUpgrade.exe, RSUpgrade.cp64
,monitor_ul_bs.map and monitor_ul_bs.m0 to your devices windows root folder then from Pocket File Explore double tap RSUpgrade.exe and this will start the radio upgrade.
HTH

digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!

obelcher said:
digital_1,
Just to make sure I don't mess up ....
You are suggesting that I have 4.00.10 ENG T-Mobile US on before I upgrade to 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US, right? I currently have 4.00.11 ENG WM2003 on my t-mobile device.
Just making sure! Thanks!
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obelcher-
I don't want to give the wrong impression- I've never ran this update nor probably will I because I don't want to mess up my radio stack. Remember- that this .EXE will upgrade your radio stack, and as Qman pointed out in another thread, it is difficult if not impossible to downgrade the stack if it doesn't work out. Make sure you read all the posts in this thread so that you are well educated on the risks/advantages. That being said...
I would reflash the phone back to the latest official T-Mobile release before running the update. 4.00.11ENG isn't an official T-Mobile release- it's beta. I think the last official version (at least for me in US) was 3.08 (or 3.14.40 if you ran the update from T-Mobile).

I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.

Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Wasnt somebody offering an XDA free to anybody that had a downgrade radio stack solution, if its easy why would they do that?

trhuseby said:
Okay I hope you are right and I can revert to 6.18 because I just upgraded to 6.24.. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
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Don't do it!
Radio stack 6.18 is not a separate upgrade like 6.24 is, 6.18 is included in the ROM update. You'll be sorry if you do!
HTH

Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!

chocodough said:
I dunno why people keep saying it is near impossible to downgrade your radio stack. It is neither impossible nor hard at all.
You just need to copy 4 files to your windows folder on your XDA and run the upgrade EXE file. It does it's thing and you do a hard reset and you're done.
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Have you actually tried this before? Going from 6.24 back to 6.18?
I am under the understanding that the radio upgrade is a forward-only process- meaning that it will check to make sure that an earlier version of the RSU isn't overwriting a more current version. Based on reading posts here, it has nothing to do with version numbers but something internally coded.
Regarding the free XDA- well cruisin-thru was right. The thread is marked "FREE XDA". They are offering a free XDA to someone who can downgrade a radio stack. None have claimed the XDA to date!

Well I tried the 6.24 radio stack and ended up going back to AT&T's A20 stack.
Had no problem at all, just put the 4 files people say in these forums into the windows folder of the XDA and run the EXE file. a few minutes later it is done, and you do a hard reset and everything is fine.

6.24 Radio Stack
Can someone tell me where I can get just the 6.24 radio stack without the 4.00.16 ROM?

I've been running 6.24 since yesterday and I the thing I like the best is the ability for the GPRS to stay on while the PDA is off (i.e. display blank). This allows me to wireless activesync and download my IMAP accounts in the background without me having to turn on the unit.. Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...

I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM update at
http://www.romanweb.com/yorch/official-tmo2003.rar which includes the 6.24 radio and 4.00.10. To install, REMOVE YOUR XDA FROM THE CRADLE. Unzip the file, and then cancel out. It creates a directory called RUU under Program Files. Place your xda back on the cradle and copy the two files entitled monitor_ul_bs and the two files entitled RSUpgrade from the RUU\English directory to the Windows directory on your xda. Then execute the RSUpgrade executable file on the xda. This will install the 6.24 radio. Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
David"
Hal.

trhuseby said:
Too late! I already upgraded it! Seems to work great though!
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I thought we were talking about reverting back to radio stack v6.18 which would be a down grade! :wink:

trhuseby said:
Only had a few wierd issue yesterday where SMS messages came in with the last half of the messages scrambled...
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FYI- I get that with the old 6.18 stack sometimes too. May not be releated to the RSU.

Startup said:
I found the answer to my questions...thanks anyway. The answer (thanks to mdavidm):
"The latest, unless I missed something, is 6.24.00, and is available as part of the TMo 4.00.10 ROM... Once complete, a hard reset might be required, but normally that is not necessary.
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I will say this is absolutely the best Radio Stack I've had! No problems except if I have my earphone plugged in and I'm using my wireless car radio transmitter for mp3s plugged in. It seems to think it is to engage the speakerphone, but it is also trying to use the hands free microphone.... resulting in you need to unplug the hands free and the transmitter plug. Than again it could be i designed the transmitter and plug wrong in some way... :roll:
Anyway, I didn't need to do a hard resit, but a soft one was needed.

Radio Stack 4.21 Upgrade not working well

Hi,
I recently upgraded my XDA1 to WM2003, trying numerous ROM versions, and they all worked fine.
However I was unwise to run an upgrade of the Radio Stack installing the latest O2 release 4.21 and ever since my phone keeps losing the signal and needs to be restarted everytime to get it back. Basically I am unable to use the phone anymore.
Of course, I did not bother to make a backup of my old Radio Stack ROM, so I am unable to undo the "upgrade".
Is there anyone who is having a similar problem or can provide me with his Radio Stack version if different from 4.21? I am using the 900/1800 model, so AT&T and T-Mobile ROMs do not really help.
Thanks

Phone side of my XDA has mind of its own. Please help!!!!

I have problems with the phone side of my XDA.
It keeps turning off by itself every 20 or so minutes.
I have upgraded to
ROM 4.21.00 ENG
Radio 4.21.00
Protocol 32S54
Still no changes. PDA worksfine but phone still turns off by itself.
Any sugestions please.
Thanks

what's your device type ... PW10A or B (rear sticker) ? and what's the band width of your network ?
also, does the phone work fine before turning off ?
did u upgrade the RSU or the ROM only and where/how did u do the upgrade ?

It's PD10A1 originaly on O2
The phone works fine while is on.
I upgraded via ActiveSync
First the ROM and than the RSU
Both upgrades successful
Did the same before the upgrade while using Developers special ROM.
I tried all diferent options in phone setup but no change.
Any Sugestions

this may or may not be help full but when I upgraded my radio stack on the o2 XDA 2 with the I-Mate Radio Stack, OS and Ex Rom it worked fine, however when I changed the Ex Rom with the O2 Ex Rom the phone stopped working.
The work around can be seen in this forum but I cant find it at the moment. Hope this helps?

Unlocking with R6.25.02

Anybody knows how to unlock the T-Mobile XDA with this radio stack. I have downgraded by ROM to 3.17 but the XDAUnlock still wouldn't work. I get Error Getting Unlock Code. Based on what I see it does not seem to be a good idea to downgrade the RSU. If I do downgrade I can't find how to upgrade the RSU back to the current version.
1. Any help?
2. Will the XDAUnlock be modified to support this radio stack?

I agree with you it's not safe to flash the RSU, but if it's the only way then you will have to do it ... or it's better to get the lock key from your operator.

I downgraded the RSU...
Worked!
I tried unlocking the phone...
Worked!
Now I see no signal.... Do I have to upgrade the RSU again?
If so how can I do that?
thanks in advance for your help!!!

Upgraded Radio from uspocketpcphone.com and it worked!!!!!

HI. if you are trying to upgrade the radio stack, make sure that the radio stack is built for what kind of WM OS. For example, if you downgrade or upgrade the radio stack that you with Tmoble, make sure that the radio stack must support you Tmobile OS. I have tried may times and found out that AT And T just suits for AT&T rom, Tmobile, just for Tmobile rom, O2 must for O2 Rom. There is no way that you can swap one radio stack to another rom.
Again, I don't have radio stack 6.25 but I have radio stack 6.24 for Tmoble. I will upload if you need it.
Again, if you don't mind, can upload the radio stack 3.17 for me. thanks.

Please download here:

You were right!!!
I wish I could have read your post earlier.
I upgraded the radio on my own phone (i was working on my friends phone yesterday). Then there was no signal.
I tried downgrading to 3.17 (on yorch.net) and it froze and now my phone is dead. it restarted but it shows no radio version and no signal.
any ideas???

Diki said:
You were right!!!
I wish I could have read your post earlier.
I upgraded the radio on my own phone (i was working on my friends phone yesterday). Then there was no signal.
I tried downgrading to 3.17 (on yorch.net) and it froze and now my phone is dead. it restarted but it shows no radio version and no signal.
any ideas???
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nice try, you killed your phone!

R I P

Question about the radio-only upgrades...

Hi all,
I currently have the HTC Tytn with the original ROM on it. I'm on Cingular's network, and am having the problem where the call either gets dropped completely or temporarily when the phone tries to "hand off" 3G to 2G. Are any of the radio-only upgrades that are on the ftp supposed to address this issue? I'm not looking to change the ROM. I'm currently on radio verion 1.03
Thanks in advance!
SP

I have a TyTn on Cingular as well. I upgraded to 1.20 radio ROM and haven't experienced any problems you're having moving to/from 3G areas.

Hi sf,
Thanks for the reply... are you also still on the original Tytn ROM as well? (for everything else but the radio...)

yes, i'm on the original HTC ROM, just upgraded the radio.

The best combination is the original HTC ROM + 1.16 RadioROM from what I have heard around ..

Great, thanks a ton guys. I'll give it a whirl.

gravejoker said:
The best combination is the original HTC ROM + 1.16 RadioROM from what I have heard around ..
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I'm having much better battery performance with the HTC ROM and the 1.20 radio than I did with the 1.16 radio.

Goesto11, did you have any installation problems during or after the install with the 1.20 radio? I read a couple other posts where some additional tweaks needed to be made afterwards, but I'm thinking now that that was with the Cingular ROM.
Thanks,
SP

1.20 Radio was actually from the latest iMate ROM from what I remember .. might want to verify ..
latest Cingular RadioROM was 1.16 ..

Thanks GJ.

stpete111 said:
Goesto11, did you have any installation problems during or after the install with the 1.20 radio? I read a couple other posts where some additional tweaks needed to be made afterwards, but I'm thinking now that that was with the Cingular ROM.
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Nope, no installation problems at all (follow the directions and you should be fine).
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1.20 Radio was actually from the latest iMate ROM from what I remember .. might want to verify ..
latest Cingular RadioROM was 1.16 ..
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Yup, it's from the latest i-Mate ROM

stpete111 said:
Hi all,
I currently have the HTC Tytn with the original ROM on it. I'm on Cingular's network, and am having the problem where the call either gets dropped completely or temporarily when the phone tries to "hand off" 3G to 2G. Are any of the radio-only upgrades that are on the ftp supposed to address this issue? I'm not looking to change the ROM. I'm currently on radio verion 1.03
Thanks in advance!
SP
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I am wondering the same thing. I upgraded, but I haven't driven through any of the troubled areas yet. I guess we'll see on the drive home.

I'll install it today and report on it asap. A particular area that I go through on the way home from work attempts the hand off a good 80% of the time.

Oh yeah, one more (stupid) question...
If I install the 1.20 radio, then later end up doing a hard reset... after the hard-reset, will I end up with the original HTC radio, or the updated one?

Good question .. You will then always have an updated RadioROM .. even after a hard reset

Ok cool, thanks. I'm glad it was a relatively not-too-stupid question

gravejoker said:
Good question .. You will then always have an updated RadioROM .. even after a hard reset
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Yeah, I did this yesterday. Your updated Radio ROM sticks with the device.
But what about installing an entirely new ROM; this overwrites the radio ROM right?

richy240 said:
Yeah, I did this yesterday. Your updated Radio ROM sticks with the device.
But what about installing an entirely new ROM; this overwrites the radio ROM right?
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Yes, this is correct. A "normal/standard" ROM update will overwrite the System ROM, the Extended ROM, and the Radio ROM.

I can't seem to dowload a good file to unzip. It says "not a valid pocketpc app".

The ROM updates need to be run from a WinXP PC with an ActiveSync/USB connection to the Hermes...
and remember, Flashing can be a dangerous business, even if you know what you're doing... use at your own risk!