Posted by Arne Hess on 24 Nov 2003 @ 16:59 CET under 2 - Pocket PC News.
just found this: http://ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1646
"Following last weeks news that the Boxwave miniSyc cable for xda II is available now and the discussion in the comments and the forum if a HTC Himalaya can be charged by USB I received further news!
According to HTC there is actually no difference in the pin structure of the HTC Himalaya to the previous HTC Wallaby (xda 1)! However, the Himalaya seems to have a bug which HTC actually is correcting.
The bug seems not to allow the device to be charged with low amperage power sources such as through the USB port! This was an early bug found through Microsoft own development with the device, and the fix corrects the low current charging problem. HTC has corrected this problem for some by providing a fix to update their software."
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I finally managed to unlock my XDA, now I can truly say to be a proud XDA mobile owner in Italy! ;-)
[was "Serial cable using craddle: having problem with Manipulator"
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=633]
I was too excited to wait for the delivery of a serial cable from the States and I tried to use the cradle circuit (to open it you need a special screw driver to lift the 4 screw hidden underneath the 4 rubbers).
*** IF YOU ARE NOT AN EXPERT DON'T USE THIS SYSTEM ***
you could seriously damage the cradle circuit and XDA!! Not jocking....
I connected the wire of the 9pin rs232 to the beige connector on the cradle circuit as follow (please note that the connection of only the first 3 lines below didn't work for me):
[Con2 is the beige connector, pins are counted form the left facing it]
XDA-----Con2---RS232
2 (gnd)---1st--- 5(gnd)
8 (txd)---4th--- 2 (rxd)
10(rxd)---7th--- 3 (txd)
6(dcd)----2nd--- 4 (dtr)
7 (cts)----3rd----7 (rts)
9 (rts)----5th----8 (cts)
11(dtr)---8th----6 (dsr, dcd)
Note that the last connection really made the difference for me (thanks XDA Dev. Peter Poelman!!).
I experienced problems when using Manipulator with my Notebook, it was just sitting on "scanning" mode looking for the com port...
Using HyperTerminal I could receive from XDA but not able to send command.
I eventually tried Manipulator with my desktop PC and... GOT IT!!! The com port has been found in 4 second, and after having pressed on "unlock" I was UNLOCKED in less then 1 minute!!! Yippiieeeeee!
Still don't know if the problem was:
- XDA with low battery charge
- a false connection on the serial cable
- or a problem with my notebook
But this is not important anymore now ;-)
Thanks a lot to all XDA-Developers for the great job with Manipulator and for this great forum!
Hope this msg will make life easier also for some new XDA user.
Mav2
Respect !!
You can have problems with rs-232 on laptops for the following reason.
a 'real' RS-232 voltages of 12v (+&-). Some laptops just procude 5V levels and if the other side stricktly implements RS232 it just will not work. To come back to your list: I doubt if it was the battery charge. You could argue wether it was a 'false connection' or a 'problem' with your notebook' but in a way the last two were right.
For RS232 the advice is always to first use it on a desktop system before using a laptop.
It's a great mod and thanks for the description.
Robert
@mav2
hi,
i have just unloked my ppc,was locked to T-mobile.
i have been strugling for 2days with the pin outs shown in page ''connecters''.i make 3cables with different pinout but does not work,
then i read ur post and thought,no harm to give it a try,,,,,and u know,,it works like a MAGIC .......good.
thanks and thanks again, for sharing ur experience.
and for the mods of this forum..plz put these correct and easy pinout on their page ,without getting involved in hassel ,for male or female connector.
any way i found this forum very helpful with very nice pplz.
best regards
pervaiz.
I read that engadget was able to get USB hosting working on the universal, however it appears that this is not possible (reading the threads here). I just wanted to confirm that using a 'usb dongle' to connect other devices to the universal does not work - as I thought that wm5 did support this. Is it just a question of drivers or is the hardward not capable?
Just to remind that topic...
I'm really interested is it possible to connect a portable harddrive to my MDA Pro?
i dun think so its true. If anybody proves this to be true, then please let us know.
noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
V
@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.
I just checked with an sd card reader and a 40gig usb hdd....it didn't detect either :-(
don't think the universal supports usb hosting :-(
hope its just a software handicap and not a hardware one!
San
universaldoc said:
@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.
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yeah I even posted in that engadget article asking to reconfirm their findings and thry did reply saying it could be used as a usb host as they had it dine themseves (it was one of the factors that made me get the universal) alas the dumbfuc*ers removed the ABILITY for usb host or maybe engadget was Forced to say yes(as in LIED) under pressure from htc etc??
just my 2 cents !
If I'm not mistaken, the hardware in the Universal supports USB Host. But it is not implemented in the software running on the Universal... It's like having a sound-card in your computer, but with no drivers to use it. Maybe there will be a patch or update for WM5 which supports USB Host.
Suspect that you need a USB host cable to have any chance of testing USB host functionality, this cable tells the PDA that it now needs to work in host mode.
The Sharp Zaurus has a similar arrangement where a single USB port can work in host or slave mode, which is switched using the relevant cable, link to such a cable http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/product.php?productid=100&cat=0&page=1&featured
Suggest you search Zaurus forum (www.oesf.org) for more information.
Mike
does anyone has this cable and test it already?
It seems it will fit the mini USB port for the Universal?
Don't think it's native on the Universal - if it was, it ain't now. In the meantime, Softick Card Export II PC version 2.10 works great as USB Host services to the Storage Card!
Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.
Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.
vijay555 said:
noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
V
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Here is the article http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/...l-questions-weve-got-htc-universal/1#comments
I found driver for Toshiba E740 USB mass storage driver ( for PPC 2002) but maybe is a best way to find solution for Universal - it's look that only soft for this funcionality is missing :?: Deje PocketPC Page
usb host.....
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio
fraant said:
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio
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the universal have the hw to have usb host functions but htc don't have put it to the out side world.
The mini-usb can't be used as initiator.
in thoery you could open the universal and hook another miniusb connector on the usb bus.... and then the drivers nightmare
Deje have drivers for mass-storage on ppc2003/ppc2 and they work fine.
I use both on casio-e200 and on the toshibare800.
btw:neither casio nor toshiba have 5v bateries and they work with external usb devices like keyboards mices etc, for disks i have to use external power...
bye
Greetings!
Newbie here. Having some problems with my O2 XDA IIi trying to use Activesync with my laptop and desktop through USB. I got it traded with my other phone. Anyway, I connected my XDA with both my desktop and laptop but it doesn't recognize it. Its saying "Unknown Device" and Window XP cannot find a driver for it or something like that. Although, it has an icon of a "Mobile Device" both on my PC but I can't explore it. Anyway here are the steps I have taken so far.
Steps Taken:
- Already did try different USB ports from both Laptop and Desktop all running on USB 2.0 several times - no good;
- Uninstalled and reinstalled Activsync 4.5 and 4.1 and hard reset XDA several times - no good;
- I borrowed my fiancee's O2 XDA IIi and used her cradle and it worked with both my Laptop and Desktop;
- Used my cradle with her O2 XDA IIi and it worked as well on both pc;
- Now that I have isolated the issues from desktop, laptop and cable; I know its my XDA;
Here are some info about my O2 XDA IIi:
- ROM Version: 2.06.00WWE
- ROM Date: 06/14/04
- Radio Version: 1.18.00
- Protocol Version: 1337.38
- ExtROM Version: Xda2JoJo.v3.2zS
I know Alpine's are good Pocket PC and I just need to know how to troubleshoot it. It can be my powerful device to date if I just can sync it with my PC in order to have those unwanted programs from the ExtROM. I got the procedures to Flash the ROM and everything from this site and I know you guys are the best people to help me with this issue. It has something to do with my XDA. Its working fine but I just need to sync it with my PC in order for me to sync information between them. It maybe just a file or a driver for it to work. Tried several sites but no info about my issue.
I hope I have given you all the info you need. Please I'm desperate to ask for any assistance from you guys.
Thanks in advance!
i don't think rom version 2.06.00 is an Alpine ROM
As far as I Know the Alpine is at version 1.11.000 WWW and the radio is at most 1.04.00
I'm not sure if its an Alpine or a Himalaya. But it should be an Alpine if its an O2 XDA IIi, is it? Or do I have a Himalaya. Either way, can it be the issue I'm having because of the wrong ROM version.
i think it's a Himalaya running Windows Mobile 5, 6 or 6.1
take a peek at my comments on this in the general forum. basically i would take it appart and clean up the pins where they meet the pcb. worked for mine, n i had exactly the same issues. good luck.
jstott1070 said:
take a peek at my comments on this in the general forum. basically i would take it appart and clean up the pins where they meet the pcb. worked for mine, n i had exactly the same issues. good luck.
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Yup. its the pins alright! Got it fixed already by a local XDA technician. He got it resolved. Upgrading it to WM5 already. Sorry for the wrong post mine's an XDA II or a himalaya.
thanks again for replying!
no problems, glad you got it sorted.
Hi Guys,
Is the HD2 come with an USB Host ?
Thx
Rgds
Plnf
I believe I saw somewhere that a usb host was a confirmed feature.
means we can use it without any tweak or it needs some configurations ?
the german press release of the HD2 mentioned something along the lines of 'you're able to plug in a keyboard and the-like'. But there's no mention of such a thing on the HTC homepage..
also B3ler3fonte confirmed it has one (he had/has the test unit though).
I guess we'll have to wait for the finished product to land in our hands.
Anybody has tested if USB host on the HD2 could work with the cables that come with the Toshiba TG01 ?
Somebody tried that on another forum (in Russian, so I won't post any links). He says that the TG01 connector doesn't fit, it has a slightly different shape.
according to this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5009199&postcount=18 the HOST-Pins arent connected ...
I have searched xda site but have not found an answer to the following.
I have 2 hd2's running Android running MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v1.7. with radio's 2.15.50.02 and 2.15.50.14. These are nice and stable and good for everyday use, and according to current widget draw 3 - 5mA in standby. I have recently had to replace the data cables that came with the devices as they both became defective at the micro usb end. I have now purchased two replacements (from different sellers) that looked identical and were sold as a replacement. However the charging rate was now noticeably slower (according to current widget) than before and I was no longer able to use Microsoft Active sync for updating the radio version. The wife has a Samsung Galaxy Apollo that came with a micro usb to USB cable. If I use this cable everything is good. i.e fast recharge and can use Active sync and as a usb device. Is current widget reliable? And why the difference? All help gratefully received.
First off, you should have posted this question either in the General Discussion or Q&A section of this forum. But I will answer your question and request the moderator to move this thread to the appropriate forum. As a cable manufacturer in the medical industry, and seeing for years the variation in build quality (why we have ISO standards which helps), it is probable you have a defective cable. Since you don't see the same problem with your wife's data cable when you connect it. I suspect the cable manufacturer like most only tests a portion of their cable runs they manufacturer and this is probably one that got through that doesn't work properly for you.
Sorry I did not know where to post, but the phones run on Andriod at all times. As I stated two different suppliers and the cables are not idenical in appearence, so a one off dodgy cable seems unlikely.
solution
Admin
You might want to delete this thread. However the problem was that both micro connectors were the wrong type. The cable must be micro USB ab. Not just micro USB. From what I have gathered the pins are configured differently internally. I now have resolved my problem by buying the correct cable. The original problem was caused by sellers starting that their cables were compatable replacements. Other Newbies may learn from this.