this is off topic, but how much RAM is free on a clean device (fresh from T-Mobile)?
Its going to be pretty close to 31.01 MB, if my memory serves me correctly. :wink:
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Whats the sweet spot for the amount of free ram and free phone storage meomry needed for smooth operations??
my phone has like phone storage memo 52 mb free and free ram in phone is like 70 mb on startup and 45 - 50 mb after few hrs usage..
I really want to install another app which ll take like 5-8 mb ram while it's running, which leaves like 40 mb free ram for other apps!!!
Is 40 mb free ram enougfh for smooth rumming of fone?? (music, videos, opera, and ebooks )
oh, I wish to have so much free RAM
I think 40MB is enough, under the condition, that You will not turn on all these apps simultaneously.
Ah thanks
I ll run only one of em at a time
i have been planning to buy a hd2, but feel let down by the launch of t-mobile version which has 576 MB ram and 1 GB rom.
all these forums are crowded with possible tweaks for getting 576MB ram.
but i wonder why isnt 1GB rom making the news? its double of what HTC offers to us.
isnt 1GB rom imporant than say 576 MB ram.
sorrry if my question sounds silly, but would be glad if someone points to me the significance of how 128 MB addiional RAM outweighs the 512 MB additional ROM.
no problem...
U can install additional programs to ROM, but u can also install them to StorageCard. As long as the sizes of the new ROMs coming will not grow up, u will always have enough storage on Rom left to install some little apps and hotfixes that needs to be installed to rom.
But more RAM means u can left more things in memory to get quicker access to them and a more responsive (faster) device...(better multitasking) for example.
Compare a Windows XP PC running with 512MB of RAM to another one running 1GB...u will feel a huge difference.
Now compare the 2 machines both with 1GB of RAM but one running a 20GB HDD and the other one a 40GB HDD, and will not feel any difference. But, if u like, u can add another HDD to the machine with only 20GB HDD (same here like Storagecard for HD2)....
Hi Bimme,
thank you for your simple explanation.
Now i also understood what it´s all about RAM and ROM.
That was very usefull.
Greetings
Inuit
ya..thanks for the reply. my doubts cleared. but then this makes me ask one more question, why is it that 512 MB rom a limiting factor for win mob 7 as speculated. i mean i can get a decent capacity storage card.
i m really grateful 2 u for answeing my question, i think i will stick to and buy an hd2 this feb. but its jes these small small things that make me reconsider my option.
Or, to make it simpler, I know android can be installed to MicroSD, as a second OS. Does this mean that if our HD2 remains on 512MB ROM, and Win7 requires more, we can install it on MicroSD?
I suppose yes, but we would get in some term slower performances, on the boot, as well as starting applications, but in terms of running apps, it should stay as fast...
Correct me if I am wrong...
Another thing is that it was discovered by accident that the extra ram seems to be available on the euro devices. That caused the hype around that subject, nothing has been discovered about extra rom but that would indeed be great as well...
But yeah, as mentioned. There already was enough ram in the device so the extra ram doesn't give an enormous boost but always nice to have some unexpected extra stuff
im still a newbie for android so im a bit confused....
just got my x10 from rogers and so far im quite happy with it. im rather confused about the internal memory though. the x10 is advsertized at having 1gig of internal storage and about 384mb of ram. under settings-->sd card and phone storage, the available space for internal memory is around 409 mbs. i dont have much in here yet except for a few basic apps so i dont know where the rest of this space went to.
secondly im getting mixed info on the available ram. i got the taskiller app and after killing all apps (except for clock, batterylife, calendar), it tells me i have 155m available(dont know if this the total ram available). where was the other memory being used? i downloaded an app called peak memory usage which gives a breakdown of all apps running and how much memory they consume and it tells me there the total ram on phone which does not match the proposed memory size on the add. the detail that i saw were as follows:
total: 268
avail:143
active: 89
inactive: 90
furthermore these numbers doesnt seem to be adding up.
can someone please advise my on this. am i just missing something here? what happened to the rest of my ram and internal storage? is there an app out there to get more accurate info on this? any help would be appreciated. thanks
dragonusx said:
im still a newbie for android so im a bit confused....
just got my x10 from rogers and so far im quite happy with it. im rather confused about the internal memory though. the x10 is advsertized at having 1gig of internal storage and about 384mb of ram. under settings-->sd card and phone storage, the available space for internal memory is around 409 mbs. i dont have much in here yet except for a few basic apps so i dont know where the rest of this space went to.
secondly im getting mixed info on the available ram. i got the taskiller app and after killing all apps (except for clock, batterylife, calendar), it tells me i have 155m available(dont know if this the total ram available). where was the other memory being used? i downloaded an app called peak memory usage which gives a breakdown of all apps running and how much memory they consume and it tells me there the total ram on phone which does not match the proposed memory size on the add. the detail that i saw were as follows:
total: 268
avail:143
active: 89
inactive: 90
furthermore these numbers doesnt seem to be adding up.
can someone please advise my on this. am i just missing something here? what happened to the rest of my ram and internal storage? is there an app out there to get more accurate info on this? any help would be appreciated. thanks
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well i have similar issues.. may be sumone could help...
I also have a similar question. Not sure why there is only 268 of total memory in the x10.
I might be able to answer one question. The 1ggb of internal memory is not for storing only, it also contains the actuall Android OS therefor only giving about half of that to play around with and i belive this will furthermore fill up when future Android 2.x update arrives.
Cheers!
hi, i also have same question..
i recently installed program called "Android System Info"
it clearly says :
Internal Memory
Max: 465.0Mo Free: 336.9Mo
RAM
Max: 268Mo Free: 87Mo
you see is not 1 GB internal memory...., is this another lack from 1.6 android????
I don't know about 1Gb internal but i know that android 1.6 can access only 268Mb memory and after the upgrade to 2.x the phone will have access to all 384Mb of RAM.
Are you talking about the 1GHZ of processor confusing it with 1Gb internal storage?
I beleive so..
rogers site shows 1gb internal as well gsm arena shows it as 1gb internal memory
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rogers site shows 1gb internal as well gsm arena shows it as 1gb internal memory
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yeah that what i mean...
in gsm arena site it says 1 Gb internal memory.....
I am wondering what is the deal with our HD2 (TMOUS version I have), supposedly our phones have 576mb of ram internally, but on every rom I have tried I am limiting to something much lower according to running services or quaddrant system info, I have flashed 2.15.50.14 radio which is supposed to have the 576mb of ram, from my understanding the phone shares 128mb of ram for video which leaves 448mb to use but I don't even have that according to running services. According to my phone I am using 90mb of ram and 292mb are free which is a grand total of 382mb of ram my phone has access to, where is the other ram?? I am getting really frustrated searching google and stuff trying to find answers, I know its a difference of about 64mb that I think im missing here but its the principle that our phones should have 576mb of ram and im over here getting 382 on every rom I try. Anyone have some ideas on this??
I would like to add that I just checked quadrant system information and this is what it says.
Memory:
Total: 421004 KB
Free: 172356 KB
Inactive: 46692 KB
Doesn't this mean about 50mb of ram is inactive? I don't understand the deal with that.
The missing ram is taken by the GPU.
Please reread my post completely, I think you missed something, I covered the gpu using some of the ram in my original post.
i would say those figures are 421MB total ram, 172MB out of 421MB is genuinely free, and 46MB is loaded with apps that have stopped but not been unloaded from memory.
Example, mine says
421004
80228
85188
i start a few programs and go back to quadrant, and it changes to
421004
85140
88916
As mentioned, the graphics chipset takes up 128 meg, and it grabs it before the OS has even loaded, so it never sees it, so you start with 448MB total. For some reason Android loses 25 or so MB, and so we all (tmous and regular) show total RAM as 422 or so.
As said the system and the GPU takes it. Come on do you think the guys who made linux would really be as stupid as to just leave out some ram for no one to use or for it not be used? Or any person who makes an operating system?
Hi, I've just noticed that if I go under Settings>Applications, I see 144MB used and 386MB Free, resulting in a total of 528MB of RAM, so I am wondering what is going on with the almost half gigabyte of RAM missing, is this allocated for the OS?
Buddy, what you're seeing is free ram and ram used by your apps. The ram you are NOT seeing is being used by the actual OS.
thanks buddy, that is what I was actually thinking.