XDA2 Backlight - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Is the XDA II backlight front lit (like the XDA) or is it back-lit (like the P900)?

It's a Transflective 65K colours screen, and I believe it is even better then P900.
Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.

[Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.[/quote]
I have to dissagree with you here. XDA2 screen is the best I've seen on any PDA - ipaq 1910, 1940, 1935, 2210, 5450 and all PalmOne devices.
It has the best contrast ratio, very clear and bright even at minimal brightness settings. It suffers on direct sunlight, that's true. But again, all transflective screen do.

ID64 said:
[Not the best I've seen on a PDA, but I am sure it is REALLY good enough.
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I have to dissagree with you here. XDA2 screen is the best I've seen on any PDA - ipaq 1910, 1940, 1935, 2210, 5450 and all PalmOne devices.
It has the best contrast ratio, very clear and bright even at minimal brightness settings. It suffers on direct sunlight, that's true. But again, all transflective screen do.[/quote]
I thought that someone will not agree if I say "XDA2 screen is the best", hahahaha. :twisted:
By the way, I think 320x480 screen on Sony CLIE or the 640x480 screen on Sharp's LINUX PDA (C750 / 760?) will better then the one on the XDA2, because the higher resolution give me a better feeling, even if XDA2 screen has better contrast ratio (For the contrast, I believe all of them are the best, It's no need to compare which one is better) .

Anyways, it's very subjective and really depends on particular unit as well. So, I guess we just agree that screen on XDA2 is VERY GOOD.

does the xda 2 have a variable display brightness, or is it just on or off like the xda 1, not that it matters I just wondered

Yes, the XDA II has a varaible display brightness.

that should be a little bit more gentle on the battery then.

Related

Different TFT-panel in S100 and S110

I just recently upgraded from Qtek S100 to the S110, got the phones from Brightpoint in Sweden, and now i have the opportunity to compare the two devices. First thing i noticed was the differences in the display that no one seem to mention anywhere in forums. The S100 panel is somewhat easier to view in direct sunlight, more reflective. On the other hand, the S110 display is somewhat crisper in the matrix, it's like looking at a display with slightly smaller dot pitch. This is very clear when using a screen protetcor such as the ClearTouch. It doesn't "spread" the pixels as much producing the typical "sparkling effect" seen when using protector. I am still a bit undecided as to which one i like the most, at first i was a tad disappointed by the S110 -- that is by the display only of course!! ;-)
Anyone else had this experience on the two?
I compared my friends MDAc and my new S110 and honestly I cant see that diff you're talking about. To me the two LCDs look identical. I'm positively shocked by the speed diff caused by the extra 64MB of RAM, in some apps this make a hell of a diff.
That's strange, i suppose HTC have been using two different panels but not just on the S110, apparently, but also on the MDA's or perhaps it's just batch-specific based upon serial numbers.
Anyway, for those who might be interested, here's some more details on the two different LCD versions i've tested so far on the Magician:
1) Earlier model (?) seen on my S100
In this version of the LCD, brightness of the screen gets darker when tilting the device upwards, i.e. looking from below the device towards the LCD, and it gets brighter when looking from above. Sideways tilting the device makes the screen fade a bit. In the outdoors, this display is bright and reflective, you can read it without backlight indoors, and in direct sunlight and wearing sunglasses, the display remains quite rich in contrast and brightness.
2) The model i have in my S110
This screen has the opposite properties when tilting vertically. Looking from below the device makes the screen look brighter, less contrast. Looking from above the device makes the screen look darker, more contrast. From a right angle the screen appears to have slightly less contrast but more vivid colours, especially red tone more brilliant. Sideways the screen has a slight, very slight yellow tint, also when viewing from below. This screen is slightly less sensitive to viewing angles and it's most evident when watching movies in landscape mode, more comfortable view. In direct sunlight the screen is very dark, less reflective. Indoors it is nearly impossible to view the screen without backlight in a low-lit room. The screen image looks weird when looking through polaroid sunglasses. Slightly less visible in the car, though not a big problem. This screen looks good with a screen-protector, less internal reflection as seen on the S100 i have (screen-protector causes the display to "shimmer" a bit)
This is just my subjective opinion of course. The S110 is really awesome, i love the extra punch in speed and the ability to install all the software you want without counting bits and bytes, i upgraded because i considered staying with this model for a while. I am still a bit puzzled about the screen, starting to get used to it now. The difference is that remarkable i had to change the today-theme i had made for my S100 because it looked VERY dull on the S110!
this is absolutely true - mda compact and xda mini (both are the so called magican series) have different screens, the screen is made by different companies. you can see the difference easily especially in sunlight. i can really tell since i have both devices and can use them with identical today screen - the xda mini screen is so mutch brighter and more sharpen and also very much better to read in straight sunlight.
cheers, lutz
Sorry to say that but that a load of bull****. Any magician uses QVGA res on the exact same size so the pixel pitch is exactly the same. Why should one look "sharper" than the other. The only way this would be possible is by moving the pixels closer together (smaller pith) or using higher res. And neither is the case with any magician. It may be slightly different with sunlight use when there really are two diff LCDs but one CANNOT be sharper than the other. Its simply not possible.
nobody said anything about resolution or anything. but you must admit that e.g. a different material on the back of the screen or another way of lightening the screen may result in different sharpness. and thats the case.
cheers, lutz
Can something look sharper that actually isnt???
yes
I know, with a lot of liquor some women tend to look sharper than they really are.
Honestly, I admit that there may be a difference in performance/looks when exposed to sunlight etc but since every screen on the magician uses the exact same pixel pitch and res and size I doubt that there is really a diff to be seen other than what some people wish they can see. Otherwise you could make an LCD sharper by altering its surface. I mean you can make it blurry when pouring vaseline over the screen but make it sharper - I doubt that.
Did you ever see different LCD monitors in a row in some market? And you still say that there can't be a difference in picture quality between two monitors of the same size and resolution? Well, if you say yes, then you should have a closer look next time! Even the whole display technology varies from display to display.
PDA displays are reflektive and there are definately differences in the quality. My guess is that they built in improved panels somewhere within the production process so that newer devices (also new S100) have the better displays than the older ones.
Well with big LCDs its a big difference. They can use a lot of panel technologies (TN, MVA, IPS etc.), different anti-refectice coatings, different resolution and pixel pitch and so forth. The variation with small PDA LCDs are way more restricted.
We seem to have a misunderstanding anyway. I don't doubt that one magician could look different from another if the LCD has another coating or different backlight etc. BUT they cant be sharper since they use the same resolution and pixel pitch so that is not possible from a technological point of view. You may find one look different (maybe better) but that is a very subjective view. Besides all magicians (no matter if they are sold by O2 or Vodafone or Qtek or ...) are made by HTC, why should they use different LCD models in the exact same production line???
Ok, now I get your point. It's how you define what you mean with sharper. Sure, the resolutions stays the same, so the sharpness with regards to the resolution isn't better.
What about this guess: They asked their LCD supplier (or chose a different one) to supply them with LCDs with better reflektive behavior because the Magician isn't great under direct sunlight. So the newer panels have a stronger reflektion. I also suppose that these reflektions on the background cause the pixel to spread their light also more to the side (sorry for saying it that way, it's just a guess and I'm no pro). This would cause a pixel also to light some of its neighbours and this would cause a less sharp picture.
Just a guess.

P3600 and sunlight?

Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
Every HTC phone I have encountered is worthless in direct sunlight. The only PPC I have seen that is semi-decent is the Treo 750 and that is far from perfect.
I would live to put some window tint or mirror tint on a screen protector and see if that works better.
It's really a royal pain to use it under direct sun light - combined with the fact that the dialpad lacks both visibility and tactile...
Would help if you find a shade above you or shield the phone with your body from the sunlight...
same problem with laptops
and even old monitors using crt
But in the "pdadb.net" says: Display Type:color transflective TFT.
It means that this display should reflect sunlight, more or less, but it has to.
Or HTC tells us lie ?
The Trinity is crap in sunlight and even outside on bright overcast days.
You cant even shade it outside and have to get your self inside somewhere with low light levels.
It is very much not a summer phone, and really needs to be avoided if you spend a lot of time outside and need to use the phone
Yes, the P3600 is absolutely useless in the sunshine, I think it's the only defect of Trinity.
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
nimnull said:
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
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Huh? I said on top that every HTC phone is worthless in sunlight, except for the 750.
ampi said:
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
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no chance also i use exim ultra protect useless...with should reduce the reflections.. no effect :-(
OK.
If we start talk about sunlight and displays - what is the best. I tested Asus 525 - it is like SE 750 (but not like Nokia 6233 or E61 - super) for ex. What else - E-ten ?
If someone knows - tell us please.
IMO all colour screen devices are rubbish in bright sunlight. By far the best device for bright sunshine is the old mono chrome device. Like the psion 5mx. Which is far better in bright sunshine than in low light. But it is a move backwards - one I doubt you will want to make!
i think that all you saying is true.... butttt one day i was really mad about the useless screen.. put it in the brighter level and now its ok!
Perfect and useful working solution
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
Steven2420 said:
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
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I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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maevro said:
I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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I respect your thoughts my friend. Each person sees a different benefit from different items! The important thing is....ENJOY YOUR TRINITY!!!!!
I have tried 3 different screeen protectors and they do not make any difference to daylight.
AFAIK, there is no product available which will help - the manufacturers do all they can with regards to coatings etc to aid visibility and build these onto the display.
All the screen protectors do is ...... protect the screen from scratches.
Adding any extra cover to the screen will by definition, reduce visibility and not increase it.
OLED or OPLED displays may have better characteristics for daylight, but the current display technology is the problem.
Some HP and Fujitsu-Siemens PDAs have way better screens
Hi all!
I am the happy user of a Trinity, and I subscribe to the opinion that in sunlight, the screen is bad. Actually, even at max brightness, it is almost black, unusable.
I can testify that there are better screens though: I had an HP 6340 (PDA-phone) before the Trinity, and its screen WAS transreflective. Actually, the brighter the sun was, the more readable the screen became (not under any angle, but most of the time). Now that I donated it to a colleague, when I see it sometimes, I admire its large and beautiful screen. I also played with my boss' Fujitsu-Siemens 720 (I think), and it is also very visible. By the way, the FS's screen is also VGA, looks way better. The Trinity's screen does not even compare, especially because the tapping also requires more force on the Trinity.
It is a phone, used outside, for crying out loud! Why can't they buy from the same manufacturer as HP does?
However, beside the poor screen and the peeling of the black paint, there is no better convergence device than the Trinity, in my opinion. Oh, and the RAM could be a tad more, I might add.
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time when I golf. No complaints here. I mapped VJLumosIII it to a button to switch to max brightness instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365&highlight=vjlumosiii

Display in direct sunlight conditions

Hi, i would to know the legibility of display in direct sunlight. Is it better of the Omnia display?! Or the same thing?
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Hi, i would to know the legibility of display in direct sunlight. Is it better of the Omnia display?! Or the same thing?
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i would also like to know this as well. i believe touch HD has an ambient light sensor, but it is a different manufacture than that used in iphone. also, the HD's sensor is below two layers of plastic (the screen and the touch/pressure layer), whereas iphone's sensor is just below the glass. so those of you who already have the phone, please report back thanks
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i would also like to know this as well. i believe touch HD has an ambient light sensor, but it is a different manufacture than that used in iphone. also, the HD's sensor is below two layers of plastic (the screen and the touch/pressure layer), whereas iphone's sensor is just below the glass. so those of you who already have the phone, please report back thanks
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The HD's sensor is not underneath the screen/pressure layer. It is in the opening for the speaker. The screen is not transflective therefore the backlight is required to view the display.
ardsar said:
The HD's sensor is not underneath the screen/pressure layer. It is in the opening for the speaker. The screen is not transflective therefore the backlight is required to view the display.
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okay. sooooooooo.... back to the OP's question : does the screen brightness changes when the ambient light changes? and it is good to view in direct sunlight? i couldn't extract the ansswer from your reply.
buggybug0 said:
okay. sooooooooo.... back to the OP's question : does the screen brightness changes when the ambient light changes? and it is good to view in direct sunlight? i couldn't extract the ansswer from your reply.
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yes the screen brightness changes with ambient light. Display is comparable to the touch pro when viewing in daylight, but as the iphone is transflective, it will obviously not be as good.
Hi, I've had the Touch HD for 5 days now. The display sensitivity does change according to the ambient light, which I find very useful when going in and out of buildings. The display can be read fairly easy even on direct sunlight. I was reading an ebook without any problems midday with sun over my head. As far as Omnia, I can't judge since I haven't used one. But I can compare it to my old Tytn II which was unusable in direct sunlight. The display on Touch HD is really great.
fuko747 said:
Hi, I've had the Touch HD for 5 days now. The display sensitivity does change according to the ambient light, which I find very useful when going in and out of buildings. The display can be read fairly easy even on direct sunlight. I was reading an ebook without any problems midday with sun over my head. As far as Omnia, I can't judge since I haven't used one. But I can compare it to my old Tytn II which was unusable in direct sunlight. The display on Touch HD is really great.
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OK...this is good.
The Touch HD display is not better than the Touch Diamond display in direct sunlight. Unfortunately it doesn't come close to the superb direct sunlight performance of the iPhone.
I also own the Sedna and although this device is perfectly usable in direct sunlight, even with the display brightness set to 0, the colors are dull and also much worse than on the iPhone under the same lighting conditions.
I can't hide the feeling that HTC just wants to earn easy money, look at the video performance of the Qualcomm chipset, it should have improved from the TyTN II outrage but nothing has happened yet.
HTC wants to build an iPhone killer? I'm pretty sure they can do it. Unfortunately they would need to charge much more for such a unit or at least lower their profit margin. Apparently they don't need to do that...yet.
actually it is not very good ... i cant see well...
any tweaks to make it peform better under sun??
yeah, i can hardly see anything on mine in sunlight, it would be ok to make a call, but to text or read a long text etc is verydifficult, didnt even trey watching a video, are there tweaks or anything for the screen?
disable auto backlight adjustment and crank up the backlight! battery peformance will suffer but its much easier to read. I think there are screen protectors out there than makes the screen more ligible in direct sunlight. try searching for it. dont take my word for it though
You can install Lumos and set it such that in sun conditions, it will respond with an increased backlight performance. At least Lumos will allow your phone to auto-adapt to the light conditions.
As for my personal experience, I have an ultraclear-type screen protector and the HD is pretty much unusable in direct sun light. I guess that with a less classy screen protector, the display would be readable outside but I haven't checked this out yet.
I tried disabling disabling auto adjust and cranking up brightness for sun.
It ATE my battery, left low level screen light on and this just is not a good thing.
I am outside a lot and looking for a solution, cannot believe the screen is so clear and good until you hit the sunlight. This is as I set on laptop and type in sun.

Outdoor under direct sun light?

Does anyone have a clue how the new screen behaves outdoor, especially under direct sun light. My current HD "sucks" on that matter, espaecially when using GPS navigation during day time .
Thanks
yeah, HD sucks under the sun lol.
indoor comparision..
The HD 2 has a light sensor which will control the backlight based on the light in the environment you in. I have seen it on a Rodium and i must say it works very nice!
SNL said:
The HD 2 has a light sensor which will control the backlight based on the light in the environment you in. I have seen it on a Rodium and i must say it works very nice!
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If I'm not misstaken, even the Touch Diamond had that...
still doesn't answer the "question"
The Touch HD had this too but still sucks under sunlight. Even if you manually set to maximum brightness it was pretty bad under sunlight.
I thinks this is a hard question to answer till the device is in the market
Normally, it is the glass protection of a capacitive screen which gives good readability under the direct sun, while the resistive needs a plastic cover able to catch up the points of pressure filtering a lot of brightness.
In my experience (Samsung Omnia HD), the capacitive is very readable even under the sunlight, BUT, I'm not sure if the 65K colors Vs. 16M colors could affect the result.
I agree dfulgo. Although I'm not sure but I think this might really be the case.
If you have seen this video in youtube (link below) where they compared 7 different phones, even the Omnia2 AMOLED screen cannot compare to the Iphone's sunlight legibility. I think this is really mainly because of the strong reflection on the glass for the Omnia2, and not just the brightness of the screen. And the Omnia HD with capacitive screen looks better in sunlight than Omnia2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8b5Jb_dB3M
I'm hoping this is the case, so we might have good sunlight legibility for the HD2!
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I think this is really mainly because of the strong reflection on the glass for the Omnia2, and not just the brightness of the screen.
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I am pretty sure it's because of it being an AMOLED screen. Those always have bad sunlight readability.
I think I read somewhere, that the HD2 was ok outdoors, but I am not really sure. Well, we will know for sure when it's out.
So, "Nothing new under the sun"?
Glass Cover
If Leo have glass cover (like Iphone) outdoor on direct sun light - OK
But if have plastic cover , we must wait for next phone
I hope HTC to use glass screen !!!
Answer???
If anybody have in new HTC HD2 , lets tell us about outdoor properties!!!
if anybody can use search utility, use it
it has glass screen, under sun light it is no problem...
once againt, search utility -> 3rd from right on that brown upper panel... click on search, and add a point of your question...
Please pose a photo of the screen, at least.
Thank's
the hd2 is very good in sunlight ... de best HTC device (screen) untill now.
still the iphone is a little better.
i saw hd2 in real under the sun light. difference with iphone? NO! hd2 perfectly shows its display in any condition. just 2 differences: 1) hd2's glass is more reflecting in comparison with the iphone one, but this doesn't affect its usability 2) the tft-panel adopted in hd2 has got more contrast, black is blacker!
gsmarena
Well, what you say makes me a little bit happier, because there is a preview on gsmarena.com and they say HD2 sucks under the sunlight (though the overall preview is very positive, they say sun light legibility is poor)
I also read a post by xmoo who owns a HD2 said sunlight legibility sucked. :confused
Still no conclusive answer. I guess we need a photo comparison between iPhone, Touch HD and HD2.
mobile-review
According to some pictures from mobile-review (there is a review in russian, google translate is not 100 procent), it looks not so bad (they say it´s better than on previous HTC devices)...problem is the screen reflects too much, but it looks to me colours are not washed out

Arrow Super Amoled Plus vs Super Clear LCD vs Retina display: Part 2

Ok, so there was a huge thread going on about the differences and about the samoled+ being over-saturated and such: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016334&highlight=pentile&page=4
It has been closed down, for a reason. Egos where burning up, and with every argument more friendliness disappeared.
I think it all started with a picture of parrots, where you couldn't see the black on the feathers good enough or something. (damn its starting to sound really silly atm)
ANYWAY, I wanted to clear up the parrot issue, samsung uses something called DNIe+ to improve the rendering an imaging of pictures and video's. Since the shown pictures are quite old, it was using the demo version of the s2, which had (pretty much untested) DNIe+.
Try the picture on your own phone and you will see what I mean. Samsung did a good job fixing the (oversaturation blah blah blah) colouring. We can all be happy now with a nice vibrant screen. And if you cant handle it, get the I9003 which uses some cheaper tech
Peace
Heres a link explaining what it does for samsung tv's which is in fact quite similar..
http://www.techtipspro.com/2009/08/what-is-dnie-pro-in-samsung-tv.html
The problem with doing comparative studies of displays with camera is the fact that most people do full brightness tests.
SAMOLED and SAMOLED Plus both tend to have much higher brightness and contrast ratio than LCDs.
If you are using auto settings to shoot, your camera will adjust aperture and shutter which wont be suitable for either LCD(be it retina, SLCD SCLCD) or SAMOLED display. It will either make AMOLED looks too bright and washed out or it will make LCD too dark.
The best way to do this is to use your eyes to determine the appropriate brightness level on all 3 displays so that you are getting best possible result from them and shoot at ISO100 and smallest possible aperture setting that your camera can do manually and preferably 1/30 shutter and then compare pics. It will be highly subjective test, but it will be fair one.
SAMOLED and SAMOLED + both tend to look way over saturated indoors even to naked eye if kept at full brightness.
Any test using a camera should be done with a DSLR using manual (and constant settings), but even then it's hard to say if the problems you see come from the screen, the camera, or the screen on which you're looking at the pictures. So yeah, the only way to make your opinion is by comparing the screens side by side by yourself.
Also, it's often a matter of personal tastes : For example I want my TV and PC monitor to have very accurate colors, but I really don't mind if my phone has over saturated colors since I rarely use it to look at pictures or movies, and even when I do it's not in optimal conditions so I don't care, and I prefer to have vivid colors in the UIs.
Funkym0nkey said:
SAMOLED and SAMOLED Plus both tend to have much higher brightness and contrast ratio than LCDs.
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I disagree : They have a much better contrast ratio (virtually infinite) because the blacks are truly black. But the brightness is on par with most LCDs and lower than the best LCD screens. You can see the figures in this article by anandtech : Super AMOLED screens are around 350-400 nits whereas iPhone 4 is at 571, chich is why it's better in the sunlight.
I still think I prefer Spuer AMOLED + though because I mainly use my phone indoors and it's amazing to have true blacks.
So which technology is the winner?
P/S: I heart that Samsung will make a super amoled plus screen with high resolution as something called "retina" by apple.
It will be included in Samsung galaxy S3. Can anyone confirm such rumours for me?
azulgranas said:
So which technology is the winner?
P/S: I heart that Samsung will make a super amoled plus screen with high resolution as something called "retina" by apple.
It will be included in Samsung galaxy S3. Can anyone confirm such rumours for me?
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Have a read.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-further-details
I can more-or-less confirm this. I mean, just read. The technology is there, it just needs a new production line and product line "components".
Samsung also have the advantage here, because they have the biggest AMOLED production facilities and so they can produce these AMOLED screens, whereas it is too expensive for other companies to do the same.
The link says they don't know when they're going to be using it. WRONG! If you follow some links to more recent articles, on the similar topic, it says they plan to have these being produced by the end of the year - so there's a high chance, that this time next year, we're gonna see a 300PPI+ Super AMOLED screens.......................................................................or flexible ones. :S
Funkym0nkey said:
The problem with doing comparative studies of displays with camera is the fact that most people do full brightness tests.
SAMOLED and SAMOLED Plus both tend to have much higher brightness and contrast ratio than LCDs.
If you are using auto settings to shoot, your camera will adjust aperture and shutter which wont be suitable for either LCD(be it retina, SLCD SCLCD) or SAMOLED display. It will either make AMOLED looks too bright and washed out or it will make LCD too dark.
The best way to do this is to use your eyes to determine the appropriate brightness level on all 3 displays so that you are getting best possible result from them and shoot at ISO100 and smallest possible aperture setting that your camera can do manually and preferably 1/30 shutter and then compare pics. It will be highly subjective test, but it will be fair one.
SAMOLED and SAMOLED + both tend to look way over saturated indoors even to naked eye if kept at full brightness.
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The best way is to actually run measurements of contrast, gamma and color saturation. I have run measurements on the SGSII display:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124669
If there is someone in Frankfurt who has an iPhone 4 or a phone with SLCD, I am happy to measure them too (takes less than 1 hour per phone).
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Can't really compare them all as long as Sammy makes/or at least made money on those 3 screen techs, with the Super Amoled plus on the S2, Super clear lcd in gt-i9003 and the display in apple products (esp. the iphone, the oh so called "retina display") being supplied by Sammy (or companies which Sammy have investments).

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