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I have a 5.22 Bootloader and wondering how to back it up before downgrading to 5.15 from Jeff's tools.
Thanks. !
I tried with the XDATools but does not give option for Bootloader only ROM!
we made xdatools as safe as possible, no option to screw around with bootloaders.
I did create some other tools that you can use to backup your bootloader.
if you download these tools http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html
and run
Code:
pmemdump 0x80000000 0x40000 bootloader.nb0
that will save your bootloader in bootloader.nb0.
or you can use this pocketpc tool: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/download/savebootloader.exe
it runs on your xda, and save your bootloader to a file in the root of your xda
Great thanks this works fine.... but when I run
pnewbootloader bootloader_v5_15.nb0 I get
Unable to find flash info offset, cannot disable bootloader writeprotect
I wish to upgrade to rom 4.0.x but would like to have a 5.15 wallaby before doing so. In case I need to downgrade back to 3.17.
Any help appreciated. Thanks. !
If their is no solution to this... Can I upgrade to 4.0.x and still be able to downgrade again later using another method!.
Hello,
this is the same error message I got when I tried to downgrade bootloader from 5.22 to 5.15. I was not sure if I am doing something wrong or what. I hope there is a fix to this.
Is the problem the Rom version or is it the 5.22 issue?
Use the old xdarit which gives an option to create a boot flash card. I have used this but as the developers warn this will "brick" your XDA if it goes wrong. My guess would be that you can downgrade to 3.17 on a 5.22 bootloader anyway. My advise would be to try that first because if it works theres no point in risking your bootloader and if it doesn't work you only have to reflash a 4.x image or try the old xdarit.
Richard
Thx for the reply, but the issue is how to downgrade to 3.17?
Program A is not working with this bootloader version (5.22) and I am not sure if XDArit will work with it.
Has anyone used XDArit with bootloader 5.22?
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I have bootloader 5.22 and have loaded 4.x images via flash using xdarit. I have also re-loaded bootloader 5.15 using the old xdarit to write a bootloader file.
Richard
Many thx Richard,
I do have an SD card reader (6 in 1) and I am not sure if this is the reason for the many errors I am getting when I try to use it. Recently posted posts say it could be.
I have also an image for the 5.15 bootloader.
Do I need the SD card reader to do the bootloader downgrade?
I have a six in one card reader and have the same problem you and many others have. In my case my SD card reader is disk six but I have to select disc 5 to get xdarit to see it. The bit to watch out for is to make sure that in selecting another disk it doesn't pick up your hard drive. The best way to be sure is to use the rom image tool to write a an image to your disk. Then using the old xdarit from the strat screen use the drop down list for the drives and you will see a load of data apear when you hit a valid drive you can recognise you have the right disk because you will see "Wallaby HTC" or simmilar. Then select write to disk and select 3.5k header and your 5.15 bootloader and write the file. when you put this disk in your XDA and enter bootloader mode it will offer to write it for you.
As I have said before I think you should try to write a 3.17 image to the disk first and try that. At the end of the day a corrupted rom is easy to recover from a corrupted bootloader = brick.
Also I have no problem with Program A and bootloader 5.22
Richard
No luck till now
Not sure what happened so far but I am unable to use my card reader now. Even when I connect it to a different laptop and insert an SD card from my camera, it says the card needs to be formated and even when I say ok format it, it says can't format.
When you right to the SD card using XDArit, my understanding that it will generate a file taht has the header required for bootloaders greater than 5.15. I am now ONLy trying to downgrade the bootloader. SO, the created file should be small. If you make this file available, would it be then easy to copy and pase it to a different SD card without using any tools?
Thanking yoy for your pateince
When you put your card in the SD card reader it is Windows that is offering to format it. xdarit does not need the card to be formated. If you put the card in and open xdarit can you see a string of data in the box ? If not use the drop down menu and try a different drive.
You can't (to the best of my knowledge) create a file that can be copied direct to the card because of the header required. i.e i can't email you one.
If you are having no joy reading from the card i.e you can't see the data as above try a different card perhaps the one you are using is duff.
Richard
It seems my card reader now has a problem.
I got an SD backup from an XDA that has bootloader 5.15 and the Rom CE
Now my Boatloader is 5.22 but this is what I am trying to get rid from. So, when I insert it in my device, it asks me if I want to press the action item to boot from SD. I am afraid that this will screw up my machine!
Is there a need that this file be written to the PC first then moved again to the SD card after checking the higher than 3.15 boatloader box?
Regards
If the backup you took was just the CE image then go ahead and restore the image. If you took a CE+bootloader image then you may want to transfer to your desktop and reload just the CE image but if your card reader is down I guess you can't do that. So if you have access to another XDA just redo a backup making sure you just have the CE image.
Why are you so determined to loose the 5.22 bootloader ? if it works on a 3.x image just leave it there its not doing any harm. If you are really nervous I will try a 3.x image on my XDA with 5.22 and let you know before you try on yours.
Let me know soon I live in Australia and its Friday night and the pub is calling.
Richard
You bet that I am nervous.
I would greatly appreciate your help in trying this first.
You can also e-mail me at [email protected]
Regards
I did try it and the Rom is downgraded now.
I still need to downgrade the bootloader so I can use XDAtools easily.
Will the same method work if I backup both the Win CE and Boot?
You don't need to HONHESTLY all the tools work fine on 5.22 BELEIVE me
If you must then yes is the simple answer but there is always a risk that it will go wrong and screw your XDA
Richard
Off to the pub now
OK got it all figured out!
I had:
A Rogers ATT (Canadian phone) running the Rogers ATT ROM.
Rom: R.20.x (don't remember) probably a 3.x
Radio Version: A.20.10
Bootloader: 5.22
Here are my steps. I will skip everything that went wrong on my journey and go straight to the point.
First I tried to use the new XDATools to upgrade the rom via Program A but with no sucess so used on method. !
NOTE: Their is not need in Canada to upgrade radio version cause the phone is already shipped with the latest. !
1- Used the old version of XDArit 1.0 to burn Wallaby Bootloader 5.15 from JEff's tools on my SD card (32Mb) with a Dazzle SD card reader
2- Inserted the card in my XDA and started the actual bootloader 5.22 and pressed action to download boot image.
3- Used XDATools (New version/product) to burn the SN40016wwe_vs.bin (see 4.0.16 rom is here post). (XDARit failed to get that one on the SD).
3- Inserted the card in my XDA and started the actual bootloader NOW 5.15 and pressed action to download CE image.
4- Did a soft reset and got T Mobile prompt... !
5- That's it phone works A1. !
Thanks for the info Yanick
So now u have 5.15?
What is SN40016wwe_vs.bin and where to get it from?
Is it specific to the ROm version you are upgrading to?
Hello,
I have to say I am kinda of lost now (not unusal :lol: )
I was thinking that the problem is in the boatloader but when I followed your method, my XDA seems to run 5.15 now.
Why an I still unable to use the XDAtools to write a new Rom file?
When I try to, I go as far as seeing upgrading in the laptop and on the XDA screem but then the connection (I use USB) is lost between the laptop and the XDA
When I try to upgrade the RSU (an excutable file), it goes as far as downloading the file to my XDA and restarting it to get a button saying start on my xda screen. When I press it I get the error message saying "als Failed " after 1% downloading?
If it is not the bootloader that was the problem, what is it?
Or am I having a non 100% functional bootloader now (5.15) or what?
:shock:
OK so you are running Bootloader 5.15...
Now download 4.0.16 ROM CE from
refer to this topic for download
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2354
Then Use XDATools to burn image on a 64MB or greater SD card. Then Reset your PDA using (RESET + POWER) combination with the SD card already in the machine and it should prompt you to download CE .. Press Action and here you go !
Hi,
I have a TMobile pocket pc, Rom version: 3.08.10 and Radio Version: 6.02, I want to upgrade it to WM2003, the problem is that I don't have a tmobile phone number, I saved my ROM on a sd card with the Wallaby Bootloader, I downloaded the "XDA OS Image Tool", could I put the "T-mobile ROM Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade 4.00.21" from Yorch and if it doesn't work just reload the old version with Wallaby?
Could I cook a Rom in the Kitchen and install it or I need PHP support?
Thanks
Yes to all, also you'll need to upgrade your radio stack to get the always on GPRS.
BTW where are you located?
HTH
How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.
when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?
btw in Wallaby I saved with the first option to the Sd, I think it was CE ROM TO SD, is that ok or I need to do something else?
mml770 said:
How do I upgrade my radio? I'm in NY but I need the phone also in Europe.
when you said yes you mean also for the kitchen I need PHP support, does that mean a server like Apache installed on my computer?
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Yes on the kitchen!
The best way to upgrade the radio stack is to copy the needed files to
your devices Windows folder and install it from there. If you send me a PM with your email address I'll send you the needed files.
You lost me on the needing PHP support, why do you need that?
HTH
what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?
should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?
mml770 said:
what are all these instructions at http://xda-developers.com/ROMkitchen/, is it for someone that wants to run the kitchen on his computer?
should I use the kitchen version .16 or it's more secure the .21 from yorch with XDA OS Image Tool?
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Yes those instructions are for setting up your own kitchen.
I'd go with .21 cause thats what I'm using.
BTW you can also get ROM version 4.0021 from http://www.yorch.net
under Software.
HTH
I have the 4.00.21 version from Yorch my last question is what I need to select in Wallaby?
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE+BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD (I guess not)
5. CE + GSM TO SD (also probably not)
Thanks...
Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.
valheru said:
Pick door number three and make sure that you have loaded onto the sd card only the nbf file from Yorch's site.
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you got my a little confused... I thought of backing up to the sd the actual rom and then writing the nbf file to the device, but now you said to load the nbf file to the sd... could please explain...Thanks
Okay, get the os toolset, an sd card reader/writer, an sd card of at least 64mb and do the following:
-install the os toolset
-put device in cradle
-run ostoolset and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-remove your device
-insert the sd card into the reader/writer
-open os toolset again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-once its done copying put the sd card into your device
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO
*** I will point out that it seems you have not read very many of the posts here. DO THIS BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ***
I'm actually going through this forum for a week till I decided to ask, since nobody wrote clearly how to do it, Thanks!
Now since I don't have a sd card reader, before I get it, is it possible to upgrade directly without having to do it with the sd card?
Another question, with which extension do I save the backup of my ROM, nb1, img, bin.
Thanks again
what's the difference if I copy the .nbf file to the SD reader or if I just copy it to the sd through the device?
Once again, please read the posts. You can't copy the file to the sd card while in the device for it will only copy the file as a file instead of copying it as a bootable interface. If you don't understand this then you should definitely read more posts. No offense.
You can, if you wish, just us the OS toolset to overwrite your device ROM with any ROM you choose. Just go to the ROM TOOLSET forum to download and follow the instructions there. It is very easy but be careful. I just believe in the aforementioned method for it forces you to take steps to prevent a total loss. I wish you the best of luck.
Oh, if you really want to update your ROM, etc., invest in a card reader. It'll cost you less than $30 which is less than 6% of what you paid for your device most likely.
No matter what you do make a backup of your current ROM!
valheru, thank you very much for taking your time, belive me that I really read allot of posts, if you could direct me in a thread that speaks about this I'll be very happy instead of using your time!
Now I just copied the nbf file to the sd card with OSImage Tool, and when I went in Wallaby it gave me the option to upgrade the ROM, is that ok? or I still need a sd reader,
Thanks again for all your help!
That sounds alright but make sure you make a backup of your current ROM first!
Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?
ok here are the istructions to upgrade to ROM 4.00.21 for a TMobile Pocket Pc Phone Edition.
You just need a sd card of at least 64MB (maybe 32Mb will also work).
Download the OSImage Tool from http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/ and install it.
Download the Upgrade to 4.00.21 from Yorch.net http://www.yorch.net/downloads/ROMS/T-mobileROM40021.rar.
-put device in cradle
-run osImage Tool and backup your ROM to your hard drive. Name it something like ppc2002-10-13-03 or something similar. This will backup your ROM only, not any installed programs
-open osImage Tool again and select the new rom you downloaded from the internet
-select the sd card as the installation drive
-run the wallaby bootloader and have it install the os to your device.
-hard reset when done as directed and BINGO
(as you could notice some lines where copied from a previous post of valheru, sorry for not giving credit in the begining... :wink: )
@ mml770
When cutting and pasting someone else's post it is polite to quote them or at least give credit to them....hint hint 8)
mml770 said:
Great!!! It works, now one last question the Radio Version is 6.02, Qman what version did you send me and how do I upgrade?
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Boy you guys sure have been having fun, I see! 8)
Its radio stack 6.24.
To upgrade just unzip then copy the four files to your devices Windows folder then run RSUpgrade.exe from there.
Hi everybody,
after trashing one SX56 when trying to upgrade using the ATT provided .exe file (from Siemens), I am thinking of upgrading my replacement SX56 with only the PDA part using the NK.NBF after unzipping. But before I start, I wanted to make sure that I have a guaranteed fail-back with bootloading the 2002 image using the SD card if anything goes wrong.
Has anybody done this successfully?
FYI: My first attempt results in either a white screen when going back to 2002, or a working WM2003 with no radio stack. Running RSUpgrade fails after 1% and asks for reboot, fails after 1% ...
Thanks in advance!
Joerg
If you do an sd card backup through the bootloader on your xda you can always go back, remember though that the sd card will then be in a special format, any further writes to the card by saving files etc will render the backup useless.
after a upgrade that didn't work (RSU) my xda is dead, after a cold boot the message appears
"wallaby bootloader v5.15" GSM ERROR
after a search in this forum, i found the yorch.net link and bakked a ROM.
What are the protocols to put everything back again, i bought a cardreader and a SD Card, and put the ROM in the card reader and put the copy on the Card. Nothing is working, and now the card reader cannot read the card again,
Did i maked 2 horreble mistakes, a dead xda and card?
sa a you can see i'm a dumbo with these things.
Please help me, of a link to a posting thats working out for me
grettings Jaap de Ridder
[email protected]
To be honest, I think you may have ****ed it. If it says GSM error, I'd presume that you screwed the radio stack, so it's be tuned to a different network/GSM, (e.g. 900, 1800, 1900 etc) I'm still a beginner but if you edit the radio stack, you can't downgrade which would mean it's been set to a different GSM country/code thingy.
I've tried upgrading ROM once but it screwed up first time, but I made sure it wouldn't modify the radio stack. With the ROM's you can downgrade but with the radio stack it's permanent.
Good luck, getting it working...I just hope you haven't killed the stack, but me being a learner still, I only know so much.
I have an SD/MMC card arriving to try to get mine back in action, but time will tell if it's possible.
so ****ed up
hereby i understand that there is no posibillity to work again with my XDA
I have no idea what to now, my knowledge about these things is over my head.
I tryed to make a new rom, but from what and where to ??
In the trashcan with it.
Not so fast. I'm not an expert on this but I have found that almost anything on this unit can be fixed.
I have done what I am telling you nelow and it worked for me.
Download the XDA OS Image Tools application from the xda-developers site (http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools). Burn your rom to an sd card using the XDA OS Image Tools application and your card reader (the application won't work with the card reader on windows 98 but xp and 2000 works fine). Next put the sd card in your xda and go into bootloader mode. It should recognize the OS on the sd card and allow you to flash the xda. Afterward, pull the card out and hard reboot the xda. This should get you up and running. Next, you need to get the radio stack back. This can be done by first determining what stack you want/need to put on the phone (there are a few on http://www.yorch.net in the Upgrades section). Once you've downloaded a radio stack you need to extract out the four files (monitor_ul_bs.m0, monitor_us_bl.map, RSUpgrade.cp64, RSUpgrade.exe). Connect your xda to your pc via activesync and copy the 4 files to your windows directory on the xda. You can also reformat your sd card and copy the four files to the sd card and transfer them to your xda using the sd card slot on the xda. In any event, once you copied the files onto your xda, go into file explorer on your xda find the RSUpgrade.exe file and double click it. It should begin upgrading your radio stack. Afterward, reset your phone and you should have a completely functional xda (oS and radio stack).
Regards,
I forgot to mention that you should make sure the phone portion of your xda is off when you upgrade the radio stack. I caused myself problems upgrading the stack with the phone portion on and it took me a while to get it back working.
and now I'm very confused, because i downloaded the latest XDAtools.exe , i have install these and then, if i go to the OSImageTool, i can browse to.......?? it seams it looking for a file *.nb1 (windows CE) where is that file, i have never made a backup (ROM) from my XDA.
So how i am makeing a booteble ROM
greeting
jaap
Using win2000 prof. NL
Where can i (or from who) download a copy of a working OS PPC 2002 O2-NL in a NB1 format, this to save my XDA
thanks
jaap de ridder
[email protected]
Go to www.yorch.net, choose your rom, uncheck all the additional software, at the bottom left of screen are all options for download, choose the sd card method, once downloaded, write it to your card reader/writer using xdatools then follow instructions from previous person posting.
I did bakked a rom at yorch.net, the XDA downloaded it and after a cold boot, the only screen i get is a blank screen with an icon of a keybord in the right corner in the bottom. nothing is working and the configurationscreen of windows is also not there.
what have i done wrong???
i'm getting deperate now.
greetings
jaap
Can you advise what was happening on the xda while you were flashing the rom? You should have seen numbers at the bottom of your xda increasing incrementally while the flashing process was in progress. Also once the actual flashing was done you should have seen something like "checksum ok" and "cold reboot" (or cold reset). Did you see that?
I think the battery wasn't in full charghe, because during the updateproces the screen was off, he was on 18% of the update that time.
After that, everything is going wrong.
From the sound of it, you didn't flash it using the bootloader process. Using the booloader process the xda should not be connected to the pc at all and the flashing process doesn't show percentages of completion. If your xda screen was off and you saw 18% complete I assume you saw 18% complete on your pc. If so, you were not flashing it via the bootloader. The bootloader process doen't rely onn the pc at all as your xda is never connected to the pc during the process and the screen is always on during the process.
Using xdatools browse and locate your downloaded rom (nb1 file) as your source file.
Then, the destination should be the sd card (not the xda card slot but the sd card reader that you connected - it should show up as a choice if it's properly connected and you're not using windows 98)
Hit the copy button. Once it's done, you have a bootable sd card.
Put the sd card into your xda.
Go into booloader by pressing the power button and soft resetting at the same time.
xda should recognize the sd card and allow you to flash the os.
Try this and see if you can get this far. you have to get to that point to proceed.
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Hi everyone,
am deperately needing your advice!!!
Just yesterday I rechieved an exchange mdac from tmobile showing serial version v1.02 when put in bootloader mode(previously v1.01).
When trying to flash whatever rom once transferred via ntrw to my sd card, my mdac does simply nothing but stay in bootloader showing serial v1.02. No flashing like in my old one starts.
On removing the sd card it comes out freshly formatted, before it definately was formatted with raw as usual once working with ntrw.
Result : I can not upgrade my system to mksbigstorage or any other rom like i could with my" old one". (same sd card!!!)
Tried downgrading to an older rom version via original upgrade routine and from there flashing via sd card: same problem!, tried other sd card: no solution either!
Any ideas, solutions, people with the same problems?
:?:
Appreciate your help
Thanx
romflashing
Seems to have nothing to do with flashing routine.
Card simply gets formatted once inserted.
Any way to stop this?
Hi! I have had many problems after flashing and re-flashing my rom.
Try boot loader mode and USB then execute (from your PC)MaupgradeUT_noid with a Shipped_rom on XDA ftp. It may work.
Have a look at this link: http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=32876
Regards
Try to write SD card with winhex not ntrw. Simply choose open disc feature and write file directly do SD it works every time for me (with ntrw it was roulette). I have 1.02 bootloader
Thanks Shamus but can you explain in details how do you do this with Winhex? my bootloader is 1.00
SPV_M500, ROM 1.12.02 FRE
RADIO 1.12.10
EXTRom no more