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Not a technical question, but I am thinking of moving from XDA IIi to Vario II (if it is ever released by t-Mob!) and am a little worried that the screen will be too small to read from comfortably.
Is anyone using their device for this and can you comment on whether you have found this an issue.
Many thanks
Of course, many people read books with TyTN. The screen's pretty good and I see no problem here. If you find the scrren a bit small for reading you can always adjust font size.
Hi,
I got a 2i and a Vario2 side by side with me right now.
Although the Vario2 has a smaller screen, its quality is better than the 2i one. (Quality in terms of viewing angle, contrast, sharpness, etc)
So I don't see a problem with reading books on the Vario2.
I'm a big ebook reader - 30 to 40 books per year. I've been using my ipaq hx4705 with 4 inch VGA screen and I'm spoiled. Since buying my TyTN I've been reading on it and it's ok, not terrific. The smallest font size is pretty fairly readable. You can use a bigger font, but you don't get much on the screen. I'll probably keep using my ipaq for serious reading and just keep filler on my tytn to read during odd downtimes.
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
Every HTC phone I have encountered is worthless in direct sunlight. The only PPC I have seen that is semi-decent is the Treo 750 and that is far from perfect.
I would live to put some window tint or mirror tint on a screen protector and see if that works better.
It's really a royal pain to use it under direct sun light - combined with the fact that the dialpad lacks both visibility and tactile...
Would help if you find a shade above you or shield the phone with your body from the sunlight...
same problem with laptops
and even old monitors using crt
But in the "pdadb.net" says: Display Type:color transflective TFT.
It means that this display should reflect sunlight, more or less, but it has to.
Or HTC tells us lie ?
The Trinity is crap in sunlight and even outside on bright overcast days.
You cant even shade it outside and have to get your self inside somewhere with low light levels.
It is very much not a summer phone, and really needs to be avoided if you spend a lot of time outside and need to use the phone
Yes, the P3600 is absolutely useless in the sunshine, I think it's the only defect of Trinity.
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
nimnull said:
You all want to say that other phones of HTC like P3300, P3350, P4550 - have different display and it mush, mush better ?
I wount believe - if HTC doesn't buy or make normal transflective display all of its products have same problems.
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Huh? I said on top that every HTC phone is worthless in sunlight, except for the 750.
ampi said:
Anyone has any experience using P3600 outside in strong sunlight?
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) which is USELESS outside...
Planning to upgrade yo P3600, but if screen is still lousy, well..
So, please share your experiences!
/Ampi
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no chance also i use exim ultra protect useless...with should reduce the reflections.. no effect :-(
OK.
If we start talk about sunlight and displays - what is the best. I tested Asus 525 - it is like SE 750 (but not like Nokia 6233 or E61 - super) for ex. What else - E-ten ?
If someone knows - tell us please.
IMO all colour screen devices are rubbish in bright sunlight. By far the best device for bright sunshine is the old mono chrome device. Like the psion 5mx. Which is far better in bright sunshine than in low light. But it is a move backwards - one I doubt you will want to make!
i think that all you saying is true.... butttt one day i was really mad about the useless screen.. put it in the brighter level and now its ok!
Perfect and useful working solution
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
Steven2420 said:
Gentlemen,
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time. I invested in what I consider to be the best screen protector on the planet. East to install, it blocks glare and UV rays.....it is worth every penny you pay for this! Link is at the bottom!
Screen Protector for HTC, QTEK and I-Mate
[IMATEQTEKSP] $8.50
iPDA Ultra Clear Screen Protector is made of first-grade imported material. It's so clear that it can greatly display original color. This top quality screen protector is non-sticky yet stays firmly on the screen and is designed to protect the screen of your device from wear and tear caused by your stylus - a superb investment as a replacement screen could cost a lot of money. Includes following features:
anti-glare
dust repelling
bubble free
fingerprint free
washable and reusable
improves handwriting recognition
reduces 99% of UV rays caused by reflected light, protects your eyes
protects sensitive screen protector against scratch
Comes with one screen protector, one cleaning cloth and one applicator.
This screen protector is compatible with the following I-Mate models:
JAM
JAMin
K-Jam
It is also compatible with the following QTEK models:
S100
S200
9100
It is also compatible with the following HTC models:
TyTN
P3300
P3600
http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=47&osCsid=9de8a76d5b90eb6922e9a44f6a6aabcd
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I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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maevro said:
I got my Trinity and screen protector from them and I really don't think this screen protector does anything more then any other one that I have tried.
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I respect your thoughts my friend. Each person sees a different benefit from different items! The important thing is....ENJOY YOUR TRINITY!!!!!
I have tried 3 different screeen protectors and they do not make any difference to daylight.
AFAIK, there is no product available which will help - the manufacturers do all they can with regards to coatings etc to aid visibility and build these onto the display.
All the screen protectors do is ...... protect the screen from scratches.
Adding any extra cover to the screen will by definition, reduce visibility and not increase it.
OLED or OPLED displays may have better characteristics for daylight, but the current display technology is the problem.
Some HP and Fujitsu-Siemens PDAs have way better screens
Hi all!
I am the happy user of a Trinity, and I subscribe to the opinion that in sunlight, the screen is bad. Actually, even at max brightness, it is almost black, unusable.
I can testify that there are better screens though: I had an HP 6340 (PDA-phone) before the Trinity, and its screen WAS transreflective. Actually, the brighter the sun was, the more readable the screen became (not under any angle, but most of the time). Now that I donated it to a colleague, when I see it sometimes, I admire its large and beautiful screen. I also played with my boss' Fujitsu-Siemens 720 (I think), and it is also very visible. By the way, the FS's screen is also VGA, looks way better. The Trinity's screen does not even compare, especially because the tapping also requires more force on the Trinity.
It is a phone, used outside, for crying out loud! Why can't they buy from the same manufacturer as HP does?
However, beside the poor screen and the peeling of the black paint, there is no better convergence device than the Trinity, in my opinion. Oh, and the RAM could be a tad more, I might add.
I use my Trinity outdoors all the time when I golf. No complaints here. I mapped VJLumosIII it to a button to switch to max brightness instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279365&highlight=vjlumosiii
So I went to bestbuy today to officially make a decision on a tablet. I was seriously considering the Flyer, 10.1, Touchpad, Xoom (especially with the price drop), and and the iPad 2.
Long story short, after playing with everything for like an hour, I walked out with a xoom. I had almost written it off because of everything I had read about the screen. With all the terrible things being said about it I was almost expecting a dim misery of an LCD ala the Velocity Cruz.
But I must say after using it at bestbuy I was really surprised. The screen is very clear, more than bright enough, even at bestbuy, and the colors are fine. I then spent some time with the 10.1, and had my eyes blown out. The colors where WAY over-saturated and blown out. I can see why people like it, but the colors aren't accurate. I think this is same syndrome people have when the see super amoled screens, and why they leave their tv's on "dynamic" Just because the colors are more saturated doesn't mean they're better. The xoom looked much more natural to me with its warmer display and more muted colors.
And now that I have it home, im very happy with my choice. It feels so well built. I didn't need the thinness and lightness of the 10.1, I like having the build quality. The screen has ZERO backlight bleed (take that apple!), and I can't find any dead pixels, dust, or anything like that. Im not trying to "justify" my purchase here, like im sure some will say. I could have easily bought a 10.1 or an iPad 2 if I wanted. But I just liked the xoom the best, screen and all.
So does anyone else actually like this screen, or is it just me?
I'm perfectly satisfied with my Xoom's screen, too.
I've read that there are 2 screen parts used and that one is not as good. Glad I got the good one.
I am happy with my Xoom's display as well. I often watch HD movies on it, and it looks great. It doesn't seem to "pop" like some samsung screens, or some amoled screens I've seen on a few htc devices, but it is by no means faulty. I personally love the vivid popping colors on the previously mentioned devices, but, again, I am happy with my Xoom as well.
Also, I find a lot of people complain about things such as this out of jealousy(they are mad because they don't have said device, so make up excuses to justify it) or fanboyism(Htc is the best ever. Moto screens suck!!), or some other various reason that holds no merit.
Lastly, the people who are satisfied generally aren't as vocal, so you don't see as many threads started by them. However, when someone finds the smallest problem such as one miniscule dust particle, viewed only by microscope, under the glass of their device, the obvious step is to all caps rage on the forums, demand justice, expect a free replacement of a far superior device, etc.
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I'm perfectly satisfied with my Xoom's screen, too.
I've read that there are 2 screen parts used and that one is not as good. Glad I got the good one.
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I love my Xoom screen too. Especially at sixty percent to full brightness, the Xoom screen is plenty saturated and true. I'm a painter, and I use my Xoom as my portfolio, so it has to be good.
I also am very satisfied with the screen quality and its warm colors. The brightness isn't as high as some other tablets but its enough to satisfy my needs. I usually have it set to auto brightness anyways, save for when watching shows or movies. As mentioned, I too really appreciate the build quality of the xoom and the weight did not bother me at all. Although now that I have an otterbox defender on it, the weight pretty much doubled and not to mention how beastly thick it is with it on.
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I'm also satisfied with my screen. My only issue is that the Auto brightness is too dark - that might be the reason why most people seeing a Xoom for the first time think the screen look washed out, without having checked how brightness was adjusted.
Regarding the mention there might be two different screen - any facts to support this? If so, any way to distinguish the two manufacturers?
Humans are more fond towards colors that pop and are bright even if they aren't accurate.
The xoom screen is fine and well worth the price at the new price point @ $500.
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I'm also satisfied with my screen. My only issue is that the Auto brightness is too dark - that might be the reason why most people seeing a Xoom for the first time think the screen look washed out, without having checked how brightness was adjusted.
Regarding the mention there might be two different screen - any facts to support this? If so, any way to distinguish the two manufacturers?
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There are a lot of topics here about the two different screens, search. You can find out what screen you have by typing "dmesg" in terminal and look for line that contains lcd. I have a Sharp screen. A Xoom that i returned because of toutch screen problems had a AUO screen.
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... You can find out what screen you have by typing "dmesg" in terminal and look for line that contains lcd....
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Can you please translate it for dummies?
Thanks
NikosPx said:
Can you please translate it for dummies?
Thanks
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I believe terminal here means either command prompt from your pc while connected to your Xoom in debug mode or using the Terminal emulator app.
I suppose to test it, just download Terminal Emulator from the market and run it. Then type dmesg on the dos-like blue screen that appears. A whole bunch of text will appear and you just look for a line that describes lcd.
This should be familiar to you if you know how to use DT a2sd.
AWWW
I have AUO, I still think the screen is fine though. My screen has zero light bleed what so ever so I guess that is good.
Thank you musashiken, I 'll try it out.
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i like the screen very much too. just hate the fingerprints
musashiken said:
I believe terminal here means either command prompt from your pc while connected to your Xoom in debug mode or using the Terminal emulator app.
I suppose to test it, just download Terminal Emulator from the market and run it. Then type dmesg on the dos-like blue screen that appears. A whole bunch of text will appear and you just look for a line that describes lcd.
This should be familiar to you if you know how to use DT a2sd.
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Yes, use Terminal emulator from Market.
It's a good idea to restart your Xoom before you type dmesg (you will get a lot of text if you don't restart and it's possible you will not find the line you are looking for).
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I am happy with my Xoom's display as well. I often watch HD movies on it, and it looks great. It doesn't seem to "pop" like some samsung screens, or some amoled screens I've seen on a few htc devices, but it is by no means faulty. I personally love the vivid popping colors on the previously mentioned devices, but, again, I am happy with my Xoom as well.
Also, I find a lot of people complain about things such as this out of jealousy(they are mad because they don't have said device, so make up excuses to justify it) or fanboyism(Htc is the best ever. Moto screens suck!!), or some other various reason that holds no merit.
Lastly, the people who are satisfied generally aren't as vocal, so you don't see as many threads started by them. However, when someone finds the smallest problem such as one miniscule dust particle, viewed only by microscope, under the glass of their device, the obvious step is to all caps rage on the forums, demand justice, expect a free replacement of a far superior device, etc.
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I'm currently playing with Thrive, xoom, and tab 10.1. Im comparing the display side by side and tab 10.1 looks better and sharper, no matter what you say. The speaker quality on tab 10.1 blows away both of them. Other than those extra connector found on xoom and more on thrive, tab 10.1 win hands down in rest of the other departments. Also, the display of Toshiba thrive is better than xoom and speakers sound decent to. Its not about jealousy. If you try them side by side then you better understand what's beat for you. I know its not possible all the time but at least sometimes when there are $500 - $600 involved and return policy without restocking fee is available, go for it and take your decision based on that.
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Hmmm. Well it seems I have the AUO screen as well. What kind of problems are they having? Mine looks pretty good, like I sad no light bleed or anything. The only thing I can see is a slight scanline affect that you can sometimes see on cheaper lcd's, i'v seen it on cheap laptops before.
Not sure that justifies a return but has anyone else noticed it?
i just sold mine i am buying the tab10.1 today
Did some searching. Looks like the sharp screen had better color and contrast but also has a massive amount of backlight bleed, where as the AUO has worse contrast and color but has zero backlight bleed. I have a feeling the one on display at bestbuy was a sharp, but the bleed was invisible due to the overhead lights.
I use mine in the dark allot so I cant stand bleed, I have no interest in trying to get a sharp screen. It looks like AUO also makes screens for cheap laptops, witch would explain why I can see the scanlines you see on cheap laptops lol. I have 14 days to see if ill be satisfied the AUO screen. If not I guess I can always trade for the oversaturated Samsung
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There are a lot of topics here about the two different screens, search.
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NikosPx said:
Thank you musashiken, I 'll try it out.
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Oh and to really make your life easier, type "dmesg | grep lcd".
This will extract text that contain "lcd" and you don't have to scroll through all the text to look for it.
And seems like I got the AUO screen.. well I'm fairly satisfied with it but seeing that I'm not american and I imported my Xoom, I'll have to live with it no matter what.
I've just got a new S2. I thought my Desire was good but this is fantastic.
However an iPhone-owning friend took a look and said "the screen's not very white is it?" I compared it to his and he was right - very grey. But the brightness was set to auto, so I turned it up and it was a lot whiter. But then he said "it's very green". And there is a greenish tint.
So I compared it two two other (about 3 months old) S2s that people have at work (using the *#0*# tests).
And my screen is definitely inferior: less white and more off-colour. Yes I did check that the screen modes were the same (eg standard/dynamic/movie) and that the brightnesses were the same. None of the phones had screen protectors on.
I know sometimes there are differences in screens, often because they're sourced from more than one manufacturer. But I thought Samsung made these screens?
So in essence, the screen on my phone seems to be worse than others, and markedly less good than my pal's iphone - for which I will get no end of ribbing!
Is this a common trait? Am I seeing things? Should I return it?
Love the phone otherwise. FYI it's brand new on Virgin Mobile in the UK and is running 2.3.4.
astromark said:
I've just got a new S2. I thought my Desire was good but this is fantastic.
However an iPhone-owning friend took a look and said "the screen's not very white is it?" I compared it to his and he was right - very grey. But the brightness was set to auto, so I turned it up and it was a lot whiter. But then he said "it's very green". And there is a greenish tint.
So I compared it two two other (about 3 months old) S2s that people have at work (using the *#0*# tests).
And my screen is definitely inferior: less white and more off-colour. Yes I did check that the screen modes were the same (eg standard/dynamic/movie) and that the brightnesses were the same. None of the phones had screen protectors on.
I know sometimes there are differences in screens, often because they're sourced from more than one manufacturer. But I thought Samsung made these screens?
So in essence, the screen on my phone seems to be worse than others, and markedly less good than my pal's iphone - for which I will get no end of ribbing!
Is this a common trait? Am I seeing things? Should I return it?
Love the phone otherwise. FYI it's brand new on Virgin Mobile in the UK and is running 2.3.4.
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Try updating to one of the 2.3.5 based roms and I would definitely recommend trying out supercurio's "Voodoo Screen" app from the market(combine this with the movie preset found in settings->display->screen mode) as well. Just compared my SGS2 to an iPhone 4S and I'm really glad I didn't make the switch, as while the latter does have an edge when it comes to screen resolution, the former more than makes up for it with its 4.3 inch super amoled plus display. The iPhone's browser was a little bit faster, and the camera better, but I still I preferred the SGS2. Once it gets ICS it'll be absolutely amazing.
No don't set the screen to the movie preset AND use Supercurio's app at the same time !
But You'r right set it to the movie preset the screen will be more color-respective
Supercurio's app is great although still in progress. I'm also used Screen Adjuster to compensate for the greenish hue (red is set to +2 and blue to +5.
I ran into another application yesterday here on xda that let's you adjust sharpness and hue... let me see if I can find it again.
Edit: this app. Haven't tried it yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366280
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No don't set the screen to the movie preset AND use Supercurio's app at the same time !
But You'r right set it to the movie preset the screen will be more color-respective
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Why not? Looks a lot better than it does on standard.
You have to understand that the screen technologies used in each phone is different.
The iPhone uses an IPS screen.
The Galaxy S II uses a Super AMOLED Plus screen. It's not very good at handling whites, but it has the advantage that it doesnt need any power to show black pixels (unlike the iPhone), so its more black and more efficient at showing blacks.
Great replies, thanks all.
Since posting stijnr, I've got Screen Adjuster on, and interestingly my settings aren't a million miles from yours, red +4, blue +6. One thing I do miss from the Desire is the optical track button - I'm finding adjusting things that need a little bit of input to be quite tricky on the touchscreen.
Toss3 you made me laugh, not intentionally I'm sure! I will flash a new rom at some point - god knows how many I got through on the Desire - but I will spend a few weeks appreciating this stock ROM! Best thing about Virgin Mobile is it's non-branded and as Samsung shipped it. Not even any logos on the case.
Good point kwazi on the different screen technologies. But that doesn't explain different S2s having different display characteristics. Anyway I'd rather have this larger screen - the iphone screen may be beautiful but it looks very... small these days for what is a premium handset.
I'll check out some other S2s in stores in the next couple of days. If this is what they're shipping I'll live with it. If it's a 50/50 chance of the other screen I might try my luck.
Most of the viewing on our smartphones involves looking at whites, webpages for example, NOT blacks. And the Iphone 4 displays superior whites than the Galaxy s II.
I've gotten to the point where I think I would be happier with an regular lcd screen.
While the tech is nice in Super Amoled Plus, the quality and consistency of the display that's being manufactured is all over the place.
astromark said:
I've just got a new S2. I thought my Desire was good but this is fantastic.
However an iPhone-owning friend took a look and said "the screen's not very white is it?" I compared it to his and he was right - very grey. But the brightness was set to auto, so I turned it up and it was a lot whiter. But then he said "it's very green". And there is a greenish tint.
So I compared it two two other (about 3 months old) S2s that people have at work (using the *#0*# tests).
And my screen is definitely inferior: less white and more off-colour. Yes I did check that the screen modes were the same (eg standard/dynamic/movie) and that the brightnesses were the same. None of the phones had screen protectors on.
I know sometimes there are differences in screens, often because they're sourced from more than one manufacturer. But I thought Samsung made these screens?
So in essence, the screen on my phone seems to be worse than others, and markedly less good than my pal's iphone - for which I will get no end of ribbing!
Is this a common trait? Am I seeing things? Should I return it?
Love the phone otherwise. FYI it's brand new on Virgin Mobile in the UK and is running 2.3.4.
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You're comparing apples to oranges here. iPhone uses IPS technology, while Galaxy S 2 uses SAMOLED +. You're going to see differrnces between them. Personally, I wouldn't worry about the differences, or even see them as drawbacks; as each display has it's strengths and weaknesses. Industry standard resolution for most smartphones is 800x480, which is quite good on a screen size of 4" or larger.
Next time your friend pokes you about your display, remind him that his iPhone is still 3g device.
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wrenchmonkey26 said:
You're comparing apples to oranges here.
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no, he's comparing apples and desserts, not oranges!
I compared SGS and SGSII with auto brightness and manual lowest setting.
SGS brightness with auto or lowest setting is at cca 50% brightness level on SGSII, I think Samsung sets brightness range quite down for saving battery life and users dont have to use Screen Filter app in the night
But imho auto brightness is low for me - at the edge of usability.
I remember when I first got this phone about 10 months ago, the greenish/blueish tint was so very much visible on the screen. Even when the screen is off, I can see a shade of blue on the reflection of the screen. But then it gradually "wear off" until the green tint disappear completely after about a week later. I don't know if it really disappear or just me being used to it. Or maybe after I update it to 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, I just can't tell. But I certainly feel it's not there anymore.
I am debating on whether to buy a NST to read manga on but before I do buy it I wanted to know if mangas look good on it. There are a few ways to view them like converting the manga with Calibre or using Mango (PocketManga). I was wondering if the text is legible or do you need to bring the tablet right near your eye to see anything? Please let me know how what manga experience you have on the NST if any at all.
I have several manga with each page in jpg format, and using a free tool I found I was easily able to convert each manga into a single epub file that can be used with the nook WITHOUT even rooting, using the stock reader.
There is no zooming in the stock reader, but I've found I don't really need it at all. Text is perfectly legible and I don't need to hold it up to my face and squint. Then again I do have excellent vision.
http://mangatoepub.codeplex.com/
link68759 said:
I have several manga with each page in jpg format, and using a free tool I found I was easily able to convert each manga into a single epub file that can be used with the nook WITHOUT even rooting, using the stock reader.
There is no zooming in the stock reader, but I've found I don't really need it at all. Text is perfectly legible and I don't need to hold it up to my face and squint. Then again I do have excellent vision.
http://mangatoepub.codeplex.com/
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Thanks, that is reassuring, I will probably buy it now.
I have PocketManga, the downloading for offline reading and all works like it should. Reading the manga requires you to scroll up and down the page because it doesn't fit the screen which is annoying. And it doesn't look THAT great, but passable.
With the NoRefreshToggle app the scrolling goes better, but then it looks very bad because it has no grayscale then, just "black" and white.
The text is very readable, even if it's small. And you need at least a little night lamp with a 7W compact fluorescent lamp or 30W regular.
Perfect viewer is also very good, you generally don't need to scroll with it
AStove said:
I have PocketManga, the downloading for offline reading and all works like it should. Reading the manga requires you to scroll up and down the page because it doesn't fit the screen which is annoying. And it doesn't look THAT great, but passable.
With the NoRefreshToggle app the scrolling goes better, but then it looks very bad because it has no grayscale then, just "black" and white.
The text is very readable, even if it's small. And you need at least a little night lamp with a 7W compact fluorescent lamp or 30W regular.
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Doesn't PocketManga let you fit to height?
UnidH4x0r said:
Doesn't PocketManga let you fit to height?
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Doesn't look like it. If anyone knows how, do tell.
AStove said:
With the NoRefreshToggle app the scrolling goes better, but then it looks very bad because it has no grayscale then, just "black" and white.
The text is very readable, even if it's small. And you need at least a little night lamp with a 7W compact fluorescent lamp or 30W regular.
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Hmm norefresh takes away greyscale? That is a deal breaker. I'm sure if we looked around we could easily find an app, or configure an app to scroll with the hardware buttons. The nook's screen is big enough though that you don't really need to fit width; fitting by height is fine anyway.
Oh, and I have the nook simple touch glowlight. If you're going to get a nook, get that one; it's pretty insane that they didn't have a backlight to begin with. Probably a marketing ploy. I mean, I haven't seen a screen without a backlight since the gameboy advanced...
The glowworm does not have a backlight, and neither do any of the e-ink Kindles nor any other e-ink device that's currently being sold, as far as I know.
The glowworm has a bank of lights under the top bezel that shine down, and those are well implemented.
The only prior self-illuminated e-ink screen was in a Sony from a couple of years ago, and people hated it - the illumination was very uneven and the battery drain was apparently fierce.
You actually can't have a backlight on an eink screen, since the screen is opaque. This is part of why Amazon recently bought a company that manufactures ribbon lighting, so the next generation of eink kindles will also have onboard illumination.
The Mirasol technology displays are interesting - they are somewhat like e-ink in that they are highly readable in full light, but they are backlit for indoor reading. The battery life on that technology is better than on LCD screens but not as good as on e-ink, and the first reader using one commercially was released in Korea last year to generally mixed reviews. (These are color displays, but the colors are nowhere near as rich as on an LCD and refresh rate is also not yet up to par.)
roustabout said:
The glowworm does not have a backlight, and neither do any of the e-ink Kindles nor any other e-ink device that's currently being sold, as far as I know.
The glowworm has a bank of lights under the top bezel that shine down, and those are well implemented.
The only prior self-illuminated e-ink screen was in a Sony from a couple of years ago, and people hated it - the illumination was very uneven and the battery drain was apparently fierce.
You actually can't have a backlight on an eink screen, since the screen is opaque. This is part of why Amazon recently bought a company that manufactures ribbon lighting, so the next generation of eink kindles will also have onboard illumination.
The Mirasol technology displays are interesting - they are somewhat like e-ink in that they are highly readable in full light, but they are backlit for indoor reading. The battery life on that technology is better than on LCD screens but not as good as on e-ink, and the first reader using one commercially was released in Korea last year to generally mixed reviews. (These are color displays, but the colors are nowhere near as rich as on an LCD and refresh rate is also not yet up to par.)
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Well that explains why the technology wasn't implemented sooner; nonetheless, I was never really interested enough in an eink display to actually make the purchase until I saw the nook simple touch glowlight.
I've always thought eink was an interesting concept, but I could never justify investing in an electronic device with a screen that could not be seen in the dark (or even just in poor light); but I will say that the 1-2 month battery life was probably my biggest interest in purchasing this.
Does anyone know how to access kissmanga. I can't access it anymore.
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Does anyone know how to access kissmanga. I can't access it anymore.
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There are two sites with nearly identical names... The one you seem to mean is .org and is unreachable with Opera Mobile. The other one, which has an "s" at the end of the name and is a .com can be reached using Opera Mobile.
Both sites can be reached with Opera Mini although I didn't try to access any material.
As for the first site and Opera Mobile, it uses a Cloudflare certificate for authentication and there is no Cloudflare certificate in our cacerts.bks. The second certificate it uses we do have. But...the last time I tried to add in a Cloudflare certificate it made no difference for the site someone was asking about. It may simply be that the page (which is crowded with stuff) is just too much for Opera Mobile to handle. If you want to try adding in the Cloudflare certificate, see https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/nst-g-how-to-managing-cacerts-bks.4197451/