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i need a pda-phone that recognises handwriting (in landscape format) and that will let me install ibm's viavoice 10 for usb. bluetooth and triband would be nice bonuses. such a device doesn't seem to be available on the commerical market. can anybody build this for me??
XDA II
Perhaps the new XDA II, which is coming out before Christmas (O2), is what you need.
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if 2003 dont support that kind of writing and there are no 3th party tool which add this support then a programmer with some time on his hands could make it
not sure about the ibm viavoice thing with me not knowing what it is and all
but XDA is an usb peripherals not a master so you cant connect devices to it like you can a pc
the xda2 have bluetooth and sd SDIO
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Kaputter said:
Perhaps the new XDA II, which is coming out before Christmas (O2), is what you need.
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thanks kaputter.
Rudegar said:
if 2003 dont support that kind of writing and there are no 3th party tool which add this support then a programmer with some time on his hands could make it
not sure about the ibm viavoice thing with me not knowing what it is and all
but XDA is an usb peripherals not a master so you cant connect devices to it like you can a pc
the xda2 have bluetooth and sd SDIO
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thanks rudegar. any idea where i could find such a programmer? (btw: viavoice is voice recognition software. version 10 is really pretty good. especially useful for longer papers - 2-3 times faster than typing).
not really since pocketpc use mfc which is the libs many normal windows programmers use many people got the skills to make programs for pocketpc
you could try here
http://www.codeguru.com/forum/
about the ibm thingy then maybe they got a converter to make it work with
sd SDIO port og maybe they'll make it in a SD versions that is if it's not going to work because the XDA cant handle usb peripherals
maybe there is another way around this i dont know
also the XDA dont support SDIO but the XDA2 will
also maybe there are other voice recognition software packs for a normal PDA with pocketpc of cause they may not be as good
thanks rudegar for the codeguru tip. nobody has written me back, so i'm starting to think it may just be impossible to link serious voice recognition software to a reliable pda-phone. will report if i do find a solution. best. c.
i think i recall somebody saying that 2003 support horizoltal display support on the pda
think somebody said that there were a tool to do it with 2002 but you had to softreset it when you wanted to change back and forth
not sure if text recognition would work while the display were horizoltal
but i dont see why not
Just thought I would start a forum Dedicated to one location to document any Bugs that are known, and possible solutions. So if you have any known bugs, or if you have known tweaks, please post.
I have only had the JASJAR for 2 days now, and notice the following issues:
1. Significant amounts of my old software that was working on WM2003SE will not run on WM2005 for example:
SPB - The screen short cuts work fine, but the rest doesnt, no tweaks to PIE, no battery status, no "CLOSE" fix. This is a big problem, cause everything you open stays open unless you close it all via running programs.
KSE Fax - didnt work
Resco Explorer - didnt work
MSVC - didnt work, wont uninstall!!
Pocket Dictate - didnt work
Navman SmartST - didnt work, so didnt get to test the GPS port technology.
Flashdash - didnt work, per supplier working on a fix.
PHM Registry editor - didnt work
2. Text messages dont appear to be deleting, they come back on reset
3. Mortgage calculator due to VB Runtime not supported
4. Couldnt activate MS Reader even though its a microsoft product!!
5. No backup software which is a pain when you are installing software to test, and then cant install it, or your not certain its properly uninstalled
6. No VGA output, or cannot locate how to display on alternative screens such as data projectors. I got the back pack with the XDA II, but cannot find an option here.
7. Serious slow downs due to applications not closing
8. Seem to be a problem with the Blue tooth headset activating the voice command when its switched off.
9. calculator is still the basic model, not the advanced version you can get on your PC.
10. Cant find the registry hack to show the date not just the time.
11. Couldnt get avantgo to work.
12. Explorer still takes a very long time to explore the windows directory, and still doesnt allow a properties view on it.
Some of these might be because I simply couldnt be bothered tweaking some of these, or looking at possible fixes.
I can also see some serious memory issues and the need for a good SD card is going to be important. Speaking of which, allows the ability to automatically/select install to SD card, which is a bonus, dont need cabinstall anymore. Even so,
BUT OVERALL, I think its a nice device, only just released, nice and clear screen, great functionality, good WIFI without serious battery drains compared to what I am used to, BT Headset works usually. I am still to get the MMS and GPRS operational, and dont know anybody that can use 3G yet.
Synchronising music with WMP10 is a good feature, and it can be setup to synchronise your videos and pictures I think.
So, what do the rest of you think please list your bug bears, and if you see a fix great, and any suggested tweaks or software that does work on your devices would be great. Hoping for a long and fruitful post of consolidated tweaks and bugs.
resco file explorer on wm5
I upgraded to resco file explorer 2005 (half price if you last purchased 2003 version after 1 yr) . Try that version if the 2003 version does not work.
some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens
hey
i beg to differ...
the phm registry works just fine..
ive tweaked the date and time into the top bar thru registry
ive also changed the calendar softkey on the screen to run and display file explorer
resco explorer 2005 works just not the network part of it...
spb pocketplus with battery bar at the top of the screen works aswell
WM2005 Tweaks n bugs
Thats interesting, I will try to download updated versions then rather than those kept in my library and try again and will advise.
Does the "close" operation on SPB work ok?
Where did you locate the registry tweak?
I think I was using Resco 2003, a few have noted 2005 works ok.
Cheers
for closing app i bought this application called handyswitcher... i also know the close app in wisbar advance 2 also works i havent tried spb close app button..since i have the other two
spb 3
I downlaod and installed spb3. it seems to slow this thing down, but it does have the task manager.
the biggest bug I have is with skype, it just closes down suddenly?
magic button task manager is lightweight and its freeware. I'm having problems with WA2, I'll just install it later when a more stable build for wm5 will be available
avantgo installation
I have found that u can install Avantgo by doing the following:
1. Go to Avantgo website
2. Register
3. Download old wince version
4. install it on pc with pda connected and activesync active
5. upgrade to pocketpc version
6. do an activesync syncing (after choosing ur free channels)
thats it, u get avantgo on your system, but beware, it takes internal disk space...
Greetings
Nabil H
PS I guess M$ removed Avantgo from Rom because it offers now pocketmsn on universal and Avantgo competes with it, the old IE/Netscape story...
Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
Thanks John
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Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
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you dont need to open the lid. there's a Send/End call button at the side to make the call. problem is you dont have a way of knowing who's calling. that's where jabra bt800 or akon hbh660 BT headsets come in handy
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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yes.
gm said:
some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens
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Tekguru didn't come up with it - quite the opposite in fact. But he reported that ANOTHER site was reporting it worked
Microsoft Voice Command 1.5 has issues... it requires a manual install using the .cab file and seems to mostly work but causes problems with WM5.. and it won't uninstall.
also, I have found that you cannot copy text from a note and paste it into the body of an email using the tap and hold method. you must press fn+space bar to do it... this is a bug in WM5.
applecom said:
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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You can hear the caller anouncement with voice command installed.
the skype issue is caused by active sync
active sync turns itself on non-stop, I am constantly having to return to running programs and turn it off. skype needs memory, so it crashes when active sync is running.
Is there a registry tweak to stop the 'auto-on' feature of skype?
as for spb3, it does slow this down and make it buggy. I am losing it.
can't you just turn off auto sych into your AS?
NO Announcement with incoming calls. Its so low you cant hear sh..
no turning off active sync in options
the 'option' to turn off is simply gone.
Hi,
I just bought the Qtek S200 ( It has Windoes mobile 6 professional on board ).
When I play mp4 Videoclips they get stucked and are not liquid. How do I have to encode them ( I have encoded the 320 x 240, but what bit rate........) ?
Is there a way to overclock the prozessor?
There is touchflo on board, but what is this and how do I use it?
Thank you in Advance;-)
The Prophet only has a 195Mhz CPU you will be lucky to get any 320x240 H264/MP4 video to play smooth.
You can overclock it but i dont think you will be able to clock it enough for smooth playback. Try XviD or DivX.
Play with the formating a bit, I got mine to play pretty smooth in full screen.
And how do I activate the touchflo? I only have the option to enable sound for scrolling, but nothing else.
Another question - has anyone found a IR remote control Programm that works with the xda Neo? Vito remote for Windows mobile 6 does not support the processor.
Another question - is there a good programm available to read pdf Files? Adobe Avrobat does not work for me. I click on the Icon, but nothing happens.
Please, anyone?
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And how do I activate the touchflo? I only have the option to enable sound for scrolling, but nothing else.
Another question - has anyone found a IR remote control Programm that works with the xda Neo? Vito remote for Windows mobile 6 does not support the processor.
Another question - is there a good programm available to read pdf Files? Adobe Avrobat does not work for me. I click on the Icon, but nothing happens.
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These questions seem pretty unrelated...
To activate TouchFlo, slide your finger from the top bar (with the windows icon on it) to the bottom of the screen.
I don't have an IR Program as I don't use it, but I'm sure there are some somewhere.
Adobe Reader LE works fine for me. What ROM are you using? Attached are the files for Adobe Reader. Copy them across to your device and then run the exe in the folder.
Thank you for your help
I have tried the english version of Adobe and it worked for me-the german one does not work.
I was frustrated, because Touchflo did not work for me so I installed Spb Monile shell. Now Mobile shell opens for me when I slide from the top bar.
I have Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1948 (Build 18548.0.7.2) german Version - is this the rom version? Sorry, but I am totally new ( but happy ) with my Qtek S200
What is the name of the ROM for example: Coffie roms (ENG/DAN/NOR/SVE/NLR/FRA/GER/ITA/PTG/ESN/PLK)
Try downloading Adobe Reader from here (select the german version): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_mobile.html and installing it.
I think my Rom Version is shadow series cloudyfa.
Rom Version: 5.2.19.48 WWE
Rom Datum: 7/10/06
Funkempfängerversion: 02.07.20
Protokoll Version: 413.1.03
ExtTOM version: ShadoW 1.0 GER
I have another question: I tried some simcards and now I have all the contacts in my Qtek. I tried to delete them, but when I hold my stylus a few seconds on the contact there is an option to delete the contact, but it is only grey and I can not choose it. How do I delete contacts? Is the only solution via outlook on my desktop PC? That would be dissapointing.
Are they stored on your device, or on the SIM card?
On the device, you should be able to delete them through the normal contacts application. To delete SIM Contacts, you must use SIM Manager (it might be called SIM Toolkit) and delete them through that.
Thank you for you quick answer.
I have no Sim card inside the Qtek now. All the contacts were copied automatically to the qtek. I tried everything, but when I open a contact and mark it, I can not choose to delete it.
Is there another application that I have to install?
No. The built in software should be able to delete contacts.
In the contacts, click and hold on a contact (don't load it) and see if you can delete it there.
--or--
Load a contact. Tap menu, then select delete.
Thank you for your answer again
I did as you said: When I click and hold on a contact, there are the options send contact, copy contact, delete contact......., but I can only choose send contact. Delete contact or copy contact are grey, so I can not choose this option.
When I load the contact and choose Menu, I can only choose save contact.
I am confused, because I have so many contacts, but I van not delete them.
By the way, do you know if the technissin 4GB SD card silver will work with my qtek, because I wouls like to by it.
SD (no HC) should work. SDHC cards up to 4GB should also work but may need a driver.
I think that these contacts are not stored on your phone as you can save them... Try saving one and then see if you can delete it.
I am really confused. I can save a contact when I open it, but then I have two contacts. I can delete only the saved one - the other remains on the qtek when I go to contacts. Does that mean that each time I put a simcard inside the qtek it automatically copies them to the phone and then they remain there without any option to delete them? That is very strange :-(
By the way - I have no Simcard inside it now. I only tried some simcards to test the telephone feature.
Hello,
I think that there should be a way to get the MicroPad working on Windows Mobile side of HTC Shift without have the Vista started.
There are few nice tools which can show use that there can be found a way. First nice tool is True Connect from raspberrysoftware.com which once installed in Vista you can use your MicroPad even in Windows Mobile (SnapVue liberated) side but this only when Vista is started.
Other nice tool is BlueMouse from teksoftco.com and this allow any bluetooth mouse to work directly on any Windows Mobile without to have any Vista started but we do not have Bluetooth on HTC Shift Windows Mobile side yet.
I think that what we need is the MicroPad drivers for Windows Mobile 6 which once installed can let the MicroPad work on Windows Mobile side without Vista started. Ofcourse if the MicroPad is "diabled" to not be seen from SnapVue as for Bluetooth, WiFi and SD cards then we have a problem with that.
If you're looking for something that does the same that True Connect (and maybe something more...) but is compltely free, have a look at MyMobiler (www.mtux.com).
I've installed it and it works very well. Moreover you can have the screen of your (liberater) WMSide under vista, interacting with it without switching with hw-button: very usevìful to cut-copy-paste from Vista to WM.
Hileotech said:
If you're looking for something that does the same that True Connect (and maybe something more...) but is compltely free, have a look at MyMobiler (www.mtux.com).
I've installed it and it works very well. Moreover you can have the screen of your (liberater) WMSide under vista, interacting with it without switching with hw-button: very usevìful to cut-copy-paste from Vista to WM.
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With True Connect you can also have the WM screen on Vista side but this application is not free. Anyway the main ideea of this topic is to found a way to have MicroPad mouse working on WM side without need to start Vista because once Vista is started the battery goes down and there are many actions we can complete under WM without need to run Vista. This is why I think that to have MicroPad active under WM is very useful. If anyone know a way for that or have any ideea to get this working please let us know.
deprotector said:
With True Connect you can also have the WM screen on Vista side but this application is not free. Anyway the main ideea of this topic is to found a way to have MicroPad mouse working on WM side without need to start Vista because once Vista is started the battery goes down and there are many actions we can complete under WM without need to run Vista. This is why I think that to have MicroPad active under WM is very useful. If anyone know a way for that or have any ideea to get this working please let us know.
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You're right... sorry for going OT
deprotector said:
I think that there should be a way to get the MicroPad working on Windows Mobile side of HTC Shift without have the Vista started.
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Not necessarily! You should bear in mind that the Shift is in effect two separate systems joined via USB with a built in KV switch allowing the keyboard and video to be shared. It may well be that the mousepad "device" is only physically connected to the Vista side of the device which would mean you could never get it working natively with SnapVue/Windows Mobile.
I am of the opinion that the same is most likely true of the SD card/WiFi/Bluetooth elements of the device - I've yet to see or hear any evidence to the contrary.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Not necessarily! You should bear in mind that the Shift is in effect two separate systems joined via USB with a built in KV switch allowing the keyboard and video to be shared. It may well be that the mousepad "device" is only physically connected to the Vista side of the device which would mean you could never get it working natively with SnapVue/Windows Mobile.
I am of the opinion that the same is most likely true of the SD card/WiFi/Bluetooth elements of the device - I've yet to see or hear any evidence to the contrary.
Regards,
Dave
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I also thought at that and if this is true then this is really bad news because there is no way to have Bluetooth, SD Card or WiFi active on SnapVue/Windows Mobilw side. Anyway we have confirmed that not only keyboard and video is shared, the GSM modem is also shared, the same for speakers (but seems that there is no microphone on SnapVue/WM6 as tested with Skype). Anyway I still hope that there is a way to have all these enabled and available on SnapVue/WM6 too.
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Anyway we have confirmed that not only keyboard and video is shared, the GSM modem is also shared, the same for speakers
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No! The GSM modem *device* is most definitely not shared. The GSM modem is an integral part of the WinMo side of the Shift - all that is happening in Vista is that the connection established on the WinMo side is shared via NDIS sharing over the USB connection - in pretty much the same way as you could do with a separate WinMo phone and a USB cable.
Regards,
Dave
It's a nice thought to have everything working on both sides of the Shift, but the mouse pad working on the WinMo side is the least of our worries! The touchscreen is far more usable than that tiny mouse pad. I tried the mouse pad briefly the day I got my Shift, but I don't think I've touched it since.
http://mymobiler.com/
This allows you to view your Windows Mobile on the Vista side. It also enables a mouse cursor on Windows Mobile, if you move your mouse right or left from your desktop (you can also disable this).
OK, but what about no microphone support on SnapVue/WM6 side? I just installed Skype, speaker sound is OK but I can't use the microphone and I can't see any settings on WM6 to turn on the microphone.
Check this
deprotector said:
OK, but what about no microphone support on SnapVue/WM6 side? I just installed Skype, speaker sound is OK but I can't use the microphone and I can't see any settings on WM6 to turn on the microphone.
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Did you try changing voice recording format from default to GSM 6.10 under Start/Settings/Options/Voice recording format: on WinMo side?
Thanks
Ram
No, I never do that. I just flashed my phone with the custom ROM 2.0 with OperaMini, GPS, Google Maps , RealVGA, Total Commander... inside and after that I get 30 Mb free space and all is OK but there is no microphone when I try to use Skype PocketPC latest version.
Just try that and see
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No, I never do that. I just flashed my phone with the custom ROM 2.0 with OperaMini, GPS, Google Maps , RealVGA, Total Commander... inside and after that I get 30 Mb free space and all is OK but there is no microphone when I try to use Skype PocketPC latest version.
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Just try setting the voice record format to GSM 6.10 under Start/Settings/Input/Options and let me know.
thanks
Ram
that might not work too....
saiweb said:
Just try setting the voice record format to GSM 6.10 under Start/Settings/Input/Options and let me know.
thanks
Ram
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it's my fault... I posted a while ago that the Microphone in WinMo works 100%.
I can't reproduce that. I'm starting to wonder if I was correct with my observation.
If the mic ever worked, it was on the base ROM, un-liberated European version.
I send some mails from my device with :insert voice note: from the email client, and back then I strongly believed it worked , as people reply-ed to those mails with text that implicated they heard my message.
The GSM Codec selection is useful when sending audio in email attachments, as the filesize is only 2Kbyte per second, ot a little less actually.
So I might be proven wrong, I apologize.
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it's my fault... I posted a while ago that the Microphone in WinMo works 100%.
I can't reproduce that. I'm starting to wonder if I was correct with my observation.
If the mic ever worked, it was on the base ROM, un-liberated European version.
I send some mails from my device with :insert voice note: from the email client, and back then I strongly believed it worked , as people reply-ed to those mails with text that implicated they heard my message.
The GSM Codec selection is useful when sending audio in email attachments, as the filesize is only 2Kbyte per second, ot a little less actually.
So I might be proven wrong, I apologize.
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Is better that you know that microphone was available on the non-liberated SnapVue because if this is true then you can find a way to have the microphone active also on your custom ROM version. I was afraid that microphone was not available on the SnapVue side only because the voice was "disabled". Without microphone we can't use voice on SnapVue/WM6 side even with Skype installed. This is bad news for us and I hope that this can be fixed and released soon. Thanks.
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Just try setting the voice record format to GSM 6.10 under Start/Settings/Input/Options and let me know.
thanks
Ram
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There is BUG with that. I select GSM 6.10 as per your instruction and then press OK but if I go back to see what is selected I always see 8,000 Hz, Mono (2kb/s) instead GSM 6.10 I tried 3-4 times and the same so there is a BUG in selcting GSM 6.10
lucid said:
it's my fault... I posted a while ago that the Microphone in WinMo works 100%.
I can't reproduce that. I'm starting to wonder if I was correct with my observation.
If the mic ever worked, it was on the base ROM, un-liberated European version.
I send some mails from my device with :insert voice note: from the email client, and back then I strongly believed it worked , as people reply-ed to those mails with text that implicated they heard my message.
The GSM Codec selection is useful when sending audio in email attachments, as the filesize is only 2Kbyte per second, ot a little less actually.
So I might be proven wrong, I apologize.
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lucid
You are right. I actually tested it out and I remember that it worked with liberated SnapVue (stock rom) for voice notes.
Thanks
Ram
Hello everyone.
This is my first post. Actually, I added this as a reply on a thread but it's so long and covers so many areas I thought I'd create a new thread from it, if that is ok.
Here are some answers to people's questions on various threads about the 614c ROM images, and my comments particularly on the various ROMs out there.
Here's a link to the latest WM6.1 ROM from a Russian gentleman yevg001 who creates them.
Here's a link to the latest hp official WM6.0 ROM.
1) Yes, you can flash to yevg001 israpda WM6.1 ROMs and then back to the hp WM6.0 ROM from the hp website as often as you like. Flashing from an SD card (not SDHC) has worked reliably several times on my three 614c phones, and flashing using the hp software also works fine (it's much slower because it loads the ROM down a USB cable).
2) The big difference between the yevg001 ROM and the hp ROM is that the hp ROM contains an update to the device firmware, to v0.88 (the latest version). This is of interest if you still have firmware v0.77 (the previous and originally released version). The yevg001 ROMs do not affect your firmware version.
3) If you apply the hp ROM, you cannot get back to v0.77 firmware - I don't think the hp installer will downgrade you, even if you have an old hp ROM image.
4) Why might you want to downgrade to v0.77 device firmware? Because v0.88, while better in numerous ways, has one critical defect: it does not properly support call waiting. When a second call is received (and you hear the beeps in your ear), the active call is affected in that the person you are talking to cannot hear you - and usually hangs up because he/she things you have lost the line. It's very annoying. Other than this, the firmware is better and more stable, due to various minor bug fixes. Fewer missed calls, fewer crashes.
5) Ok, putting aside device firmware and thinking of software... the latest yevg001 ROM is based on hp software image 1.01.04, the latest image at time of writing. yevg001 has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these. Obviously, you cannot uninstall them as they are in the ROM, but they also therefore don't take up any usable space.
6) The touchFLO interface is optional. You can easily deactivate it. It looks quite pretty but I have to say I don't like it, so I've deactivated it just by unchecking it in Today settings.
7) The yevg001 WM 6.1 build (I'm using his v1.6) is very good. I have only noticed one major problem with it. The phone is faster than ever before (and I've tried a lot of ROMs). It is quite stable - a couple of crashes but not noticeably more than the hp ROM. The WM6.1 ROM is entirely in English (with the exception that Yevgeny has added in Russian T9 support - not much use without Russian character set). English T9 works as normal.
8) I have also noticed improved battery life. With the latest hp 1.01.04 WM6.0 ROM, I usually get through four fully charged batteries in 24 hours. With the yevg001 v1.6 WM 6.1 ROM, I only get through three. Yes, I'm quite a heavy user but this is a good improvement.
9) The major problem I mentioned in point 7, which won't affect everyone, is that yevg001's ROM does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on a 3G or HSDPA network. How bad is that? Not all 3G phones support this and it is one of the best features of the 614c... My guess is that yevg001 does not even realise this because there is no (or nearly no) 3G in Russia - at least there wasn't last time I was in Moscow in April/May. Basically, if you have any data connection active at the time you place or receive a call, the phone just abruptly drops the data connection. It re-establishes it fine after your call, but no concurrent usage. **If any Russian forum user is reading this, please could you post to yevg001 and ask him if he can address this?**
10) Other experiences based on my regular usage:
a) Bluetooth works fine, neither better nor worse than the standard HP build. I use several BT headsets for calls and also listen to music using A2DP. The A2DP connection seems more stable under WM6.1. In general on the 614c the BT sound level is too low, it does seems a bit lower still with the yevg001 ROM but it was a problem already.
b) Wi-fi works fine, no problems at all with b or g networks.
c) The PIE browser seems to have been slightly improved under WM6.1.
d) The threaded SMS is fantastic! And better than the iphone too because it allows you to delete and to forward individual messages within the thread. The email client seems to be unchanged.
e) I use tomtom navigator 6.3 (western europe) a lot. It works well.
f) Getting a GPS fix can take more than five minutes from cold. If you've used it before on the same day, it's usually less than a minute. I have always found that the 614c is slower to get a fix than the old 6915 which I believe many 614c users upgraded from.
g) Google Maps also works really well, with GPS, and using HSDPA the 614c is fast enough to keep up with your position on a zoomed-in satellite photo while travelling in a car at 30mph (no I wasn't driving!).
h) The media player is ok, I do wish it would read the album artwork out of the mp3 metadata, but that's a slightly off topic observation.
i) The camera is shockingly slow. I use it rarely. The autofocus works quite well.
j) I've had no problems with lots of 8GB SDHC cards.
k) Battery life battery life battery life. The Achilles heel of the 614c. See point 8 above.
m) Activesync seems to work more quickly and more reliably under the WM6.1 ROM than previously.
n) Voice Commander is rubbish. Why do they bother? It takes ages to start up, only works from American accents, is generally slow and intrusive (over other open windows) and is unreliable. MS Voice Command was much better.
Hope all this is interesting! Let me know what you think and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Cheers,
hipppo
p.s. Update as of 22 December:
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
The password is "israpda.com" (without the quotes).
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
Merry Christmas
hipppo
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
My experience.
I do agree with the comments. I might add another issue - some of the programs based on netCF don't work - they report errors. I installed netCF3.5 but the problem still persists.
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for this very detailed post.
It answered a lot of my questions!
Have HP categorically said they won't be releasing an official 6.1 ROM?
Thanks,
Adam
In my Ipaq 614C the word-completion features does not with on-screen keyboard. It's normally cauby by XT9? XT9 work well with the physical keyboard.
vgbvn said:
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
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i ve bought the extended battery from HP and i have to say that it reallly enhance the use of the 614c ! i haven't really measured but i would say it last 2-3 times later than with the actual battery, using this 6.1 rom. the only drawback is that the phone is now bigger...
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
HP said that "there aren't any devices made by HP with WM6.1 at the moment so they will have to make tests if the ipaq 610 is compatable with wm 6.1 and then think of releasing update". IMHO this means something like "We are not going to release wm 6.1 update if you want an official wm 6.1 phone go buy something else" . Of course it's compatable with wm 6.1 and it's working much better with it, but they have to pay $$$ to Microsoft so they can use wm 6.1 and they probably won't do that. The truth is, that the ipaq is cheaper then most of the other devices with similar hardware. I don't think that of they release an udate it will be better than the russian rom. The battery drains because you have a very, very fast CPU. I tested it with XcpuScalar and it plays 320x240 MP4 video with decent quality when clocked at 104MHZ. Now you can imagine the excessive power of the CPU, which is utilized at maximum only when playing QUAKE 2 or some playstation emulator, or when using SKYPE.
thanks for the infos but i can't register there to download a rom.what can we do for this?i don't speak russian
Latest Russian ROM
Hello everyone,
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
axlastro said:
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
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i think that i' ll buy this cradle from Brando:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02686
it 'll enables me to charge the high capacity battery and the normal battery...
I installed the last ROM update from this thread..
until now, i still haven't found any bugs.. does anyone have found a bugs in this ROM?
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these.
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I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
mire93600 said:
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
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That's the beauty of your iPAQ,
you can tweak it in any way you like.
mine after I installed new ROM >> very stable (recomended)
miroslav.turek said:
Yevg001 has his iPAQ back from service and prepared new ROM:
OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) Ver 1.5
http://rapidshare.com/files/163730994/614c_wm61_20757.rar
Password: israpda.com
ROM was tested only one day.
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tweak with usefull application:
** TouchFLO2D/Manilla2D Skins
with a little bit change assigning voice commander button into <scroll right> function
herg62123 said:
ALL DEVICES (VERSION 19b) WITH YOUTUBE ON INTERNET WIDGET
RAPIDSHARE.........................MEGAUPLOAD
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>>> it's a zip file, Install application #09 only **09 Manila2D_0.11.all.devices**
then install Manilla 2D Customizer by mpenguin14 to configure it:
mpenguin14 said:
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
LATEST DOWNLOAD HERE (January 30 v0.28.233)
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then find the skin >> here
WARNING >> not all skins works well.. if you find not working skin, you can always try others.
and many others usefull and stable application:
Opera9.5.2392_WWE, AudioManager_2.0_1819.2129, and others (Install application inside Manila2D_0.11.all.devices** zip file)
Resco file & Registry Explorer 2008
usefull app from lots of http://www.dotfred.net/
(recommended) SH4Ys Pim Backup 2.8.CAB >> Backup tool Messages, Contacts, Logs, Tasks, appointment >> download here
AND MANY OTHERS APPLICATION !!!!!
(credits to all developer)
Move outlook message to storage card
found an article very useful for heavy e-mail user (like me) >> here so you can download large attachment file.
here it is:
Using a registry editor, create or edit the following entries:
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments
Then move the entire Messaging folder under \Windows to \Storage Card and do a soft reset.
do carefully, i'm a newbie
One caveat is that you need to disable the "Messaging" Today plugin before your soft reset. If you don't do this, a second "\Storage Card" folder will be created in your ROM and your real Storage Card will be renamed "\Storage Card2", which isn't very useful is it?
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to edit registry >> use PHM Registry Editor to your Pocket PC to edit the registry...
to disable the Messaging Plugin, click on Start, Settings, Today, Items and untick the Messaging option...
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anw, I'm using resco explorer to edit registry
hipppo said:
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
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Hi Hipppo,
do you have any news about a newer ROM that does not have this problem ?
after using it a while did you find any other problem related to theses cooked rom ?
are thoses new ROMs comming with NetCF3.5 or older ?
Hello Albertorrent,
I have stopped using the yevg001 ROM mentioned in my first posting and I am now using his latest ROM which I think is called Build 20270.1.3.1 v1.4 rev1.2.
I have found this ROM to be stable, no problems. I recommend it.
It allows concurrent voice and data usage.
I am afraid my limited technical knowledge does not allow me to understand your question about NetCF3.5.
hipppo
Thanks,
I ordered my phone monday so I Might have it at the end of the week.
I'll try this new rom.
net CF is usefull to run some applications that has been developped whith it.
I just know that some application cannot install and run if there is not the latest CF (3.5) instaled
for exemple this one :
http://www.retrobits.net/ppc/ppc.shtml
you can find it here :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1187
thanks
just google it
albertorrent - i have the netcf3.5 as a separate Cab and i install in on the SD card. I haven't noticed any problem using it that way. I think it was somewhere on the forum but you can always google it. If you can't find it i can e-mail it to you. Right now i don't have it installed and I don't miss it much but some programs require it. At the moment I'm using the latest official 6.0 rom and i find the machine quite stable and fast with it. I had the 1.6 version of the russian 6.1 rom but for now i'm with 6.0