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Upgrade US Version ENG ROM with a German Version from T-Mobi

Hi,
does any one has experince in upgrading a US T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition with a German ROM Version ?
My concerns are that the German versions are supporting different GSM frequencies than the US Version. And I read here that you never should upgrade a German phone with a US version it will ruin your phone but if I try to upgrade a US version with a German Version does it also ruin my phone ?
Is this a problem ?

I think, that there should be no problem, to use the German Version in your US-MDA, if your just upgrading the RUU - File.
This leaves the Radi unit untouched.
But i don't know what happend if you use different languages in the RUU and RSU files....
Regards
Stefan

You may be disapointed. The CE part DOES contain band specific information. If you update a USA unit with a European build you will no longer be able to switch between 900 and 1900 band operation.

The Us device is Model PW10B1 and there is no german ROM Upgrade somewhere out there (but if you can find a matching one, please tell me...)
I wouldn't try to upgrade if you still want to use the band-switching function 900/1900.

Flashing Radio Version

Having problems with Radio Version 4.21 from England, ie the phone will not work (I am in Australia). The phone was working OK until I performed the upgrade
It has been suggested that I install Radio Version 6.12 from T-mobile and I have downloaded the file from Yorch, this comes up as an nbf file and I wonder if I should flash it as I can not find RSUupgrade.exe. Any suggestions ?
Chris

You downloaded the wrong file go back to Yorch's site and look under Upgrades and download "USA T-mobile Latest Radio Stack (Unofficial)
RU 6.24.00".
HTH

dont Australia use 900/1800 like europe ?
if that is the case the us RSU would ruin the phone even more

Rudegar said:
don't Australia use 900/1800 like Europe ?
if that is the case the us RSU would ruin the phone even more
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You know thats what I thought until I received the below PM:
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Radio Stack for Australia
Wed Nov 12, 2003 13:10
Hello Qman,
Thank you for your reply! But great news here as I have managed to get my RSU version to work in Australia.
My carrier is Optus and SIM card is fine.
Basically by trying most RSU versions I wasn’t able to get the phone to work. Funny thing is I tried the RSU version for the O2, which is supporting here in Australia but to no avail! I ended up using the new T- Mobile for the US and works like a dream have fully signal as well.
New version is RSU 6.24.
Cheers Erebus,
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HTH

Further to my problems I upgraded to the T-mobile 2003 ROM an their latest Radio stack 6.24 and all is working OK.
I had sent the XDA to Melbourne (Australia) to the accredited Service company (Accord) and they had sent it back saying that it was buggered. I had some very helpful advice from Peter and Joe and have everything working fine. Curiously, when I had XDA 1.2 and the T-mobile Radiostack the phone kept crashing after reboot. Since upgrading to T-Mobile 4.00.21 ENG and Radio version 6.24.00 all works well.
I did try to download some Medical software (MIMS) and thisd has proven to be a bit of a problem. The tech dude at MIMS was not too impressed with Pocket-PC 2003
Chris

Great, glad to hear it all worked out ok! 8)

Seems R 6.24 works in many wheres ... I put it on a friend's XDA and it works now (Egypt 900/1800) ... just wonder if it's wise to go for ROM 4.00.21 or keep the 4.00.11 .... I heared that you can't change the ROM after T-mobile ROMs ... is that true ?

Biso007 said:
Seems R 6.24 works in many wheres ... I put it on a friend's XDA and it works now (Egypt 900/1800) ... just wonder if it's wise to go for ROM 4.00.21 or keep the 4.00.11 .... I heared that you can't change the ROM after T-mobile ROMs ... is that true ?
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Thats great news on RS 6.24, thanks for the tip!
As far as not being able to change ROM's after upgrading to a T-Mobile WM2003 ROM, it will still work but you must use the SD card boot loader upgrade method.
HTH

Help needed, this morning I flash my XDA with USA T-mobile Latest Radio Stack (Unofficial) but not working for my GSM 900. So I flash it back to O2 Latest Official Radio Stack RU 4.21 but it flash until 83% stop forever. So i do a soft rest. Then my XDA can't boot. Can someone help me out on this method? I'm in Malaysia. Using 900/1800 bandwidth.

Hi ...
If you have taken SD backup before upgrading, then go for bootloader menu, press Calendar button, and turn off the Radio part. Try to flash your XDA back to the original ROM and RSU, and then perform a hard reset.
In case you didn't, try the Qtek offical RSU 3.25 from http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific. It works good for Asian operators.
Good luck

Problem FIXED... Thanks for the big help.

How can I restore my system to the original states

Hello,
I know that I should'nt have do that, but I need your help.
I upgrade my MDA on the following state :
Rom : 4.01.16 Eng
RSU : 4.21.00
For buisness reson I have to go back to the original state.
Rom : 3.18.01 ENG
RSU : 3.23.00
Unfortunatly I didn't do a Backup
I have acces to some MDA with the originale rom and rsu
My question is how to go back to the originale state, without destroying the other mda with the originale rom? via bootloader?
Thanks in advance

The ROM part is easy, you can get the original 3.18 ENG from the carrier devices site http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific
The RSU might be your nightmare especially that you have 4.21 which showed to be the pain for most people here ... anyway, in the same site you will find RSU 3.25 for Qtek ... it's almost the same as 3.23.
Good luck

Biso007 Thanks for you answer,
I look at your link but it seems to be the Qteck version, I really need the officiale t-mobile version.
Is there any way to save the originale one in one of the other phone that I have access and restore to my one?

Biso: Is the rom found in http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific WM2003? What radio version it contain? Is it compatible with PW10B1 device?
I'm now running T-Mobile ROM 4.01.16 ENG, Radio 6.25.02. I'm plannning to change the Radio to be compatible with Asia-Pacific and in the US (I've been going to Asia and back to the States for business, so I want a device compatible with both Asia-Pacific and US). Thanks

ok I Download the old version on a new phone via OSimagetool to my sd card and put it on my device. working perfectly.
So now I just have to downgrade the radio stack to 3.23.00, where I can find it and how to downgrade?

I download the file here
http://www.t-mobile.at/business/mobiles_arbeiten/MDA/SWupdates/
Looks like it's working, (at least I have the right number at startup)
the only problems that I had it's that rhe rsupgrade was lauch every time I startup, I had to delete the file rsupgrade on startup folder. now it's working like before.
Thanks a lot.

By the way, does it exist a solution in mda to copy contact name to the sim card?

pjfuerte said:
Biso: Is the rom found in http://www.carrierdevices.com.au/downloads.php?region=Asia Pacific WM2003? What radio version it contain? Is it compatible with PW10B1 device?
I'm now running T-Mobile ROM 4.01.16 ENG, Radio 6.25.02. I'm plannning to change the Radio to be compatible with Asia-Pacific and in the US (I've been going to Asia and back to the States for business, so I want a device compatible with both Asia-Pacific and US). Thanks
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No, it's PPC2002 and the RSU is 3.25 for PW10A devices (900/1800). I know it coz it was on my device before I replace the mother board with a B-type one.
If you are going to use 900 MHs network in Asia you can keep your current RSU ... I have it on my device and my network is 900/1800 ... other than this you better use 2 phones or get a new XDA II

sebs said:
By the way, does it exist a solution in mda to copy contact name to the sim card?
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Dealing with the SIM book is a matter of s/w and the device type (XDA or MDA or ... ) has nothing to do with it. You can find many freeware s/w to deal with the SIM entries.

ok thanks a lot, do you just have the name of one of this freeware?

try this http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7496

don't work for me
Requirements: Pocket PC 2002("Not Microsoft Phone Edition or Pocket PC 2000)
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always looking for gsm phone.
Say choose flexport extra if you have running voice gsm installed on this device, but i dont have the option.

unlocking SX56 problems

hey there i have a problem unlocking the SX56 its a ATT device witch i upgraded via the Siemens Website to the 2003 version,
now when i use the tool xdaunlock i always get an error:
error getting unlock code
anyone has some help on that
here is the info
ROM Version: A.30.09 ENG
ROM date: 01/01/04
Radio Version: A.33.02
Protocol Version: 1.3.3
Model: PW10B1
please help me !!!

XDAunlock tool doesn't work with WM2003 ... you have to down grade your ROM to PPC2002 ... try to cook any 3.17 based ROM from the kitchen here and it's better to flash your ROM with the SER v1.2 which will ulock your xda with the first reboot

thx for the info
would you have some info what SER 1.2 is or some step by step instructions
Anton

GSM Band change
Hi,
I have an unlocked AT&T Siemens XDA I :
ROM : A.30.09 ENG
ROM date: 01/01/04
Radio : A.20.10
Protocol version: 324e4
Under Settings>phone> i cannot find the tab found in other versions where I can switch the GSM band between 900 and 1900.
what should I do about that? is there anyway to switch band? or do I have to upgrade/downgrade the OS?
The phone is working with both T-mobile and AT&T networks, but I will need to use it in Europe and Egypt (Vodafone).
hey Biso007 , I hope you have the answer
thank you

Band Switching in Windows Mobile
The tab used to switch the bandwidth, 900/1900 MHz GSM, was removed in Windows Mobile as the software interface with the radio stack unit/RSU automatically will switch from the Americas' 1900 MHz to the international 900 MHz and vice verse when travelling to other countries. My friend has an unlocked Siemens SX56 Pocket PC Phone with AT&T Wireless(hopefully soon to be Cingular Wireless) as the service provider, took the SX56 over to Ireland with him on a business trip and used a prepaid SIM without any problems.

Band switching
Hey
Thanks for this information.

Re: thx for the info
toxit said:
would you have some info what SER 1.2 is or some step by step instructions
Anton
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Take a look here www.xda-developers.com/SER/
DaKanadian said:
hey Biso007 , I hope you have the answer
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As raycaroll70 said, band switching is being done automatic between 900 and 1900 for B devices, and 900 to 1800 for A devices ... this is true in A30.0x ROMs from AT&T
In T-mobile ROMs it's still being done through the phone settings but only for B devices 900/1900. It's also worthy to be mentioned that the RSU is a significant factor in this issue ... I think A20.x does this auto switching, but I didn't try it with 6.2x.0x RSUs

Biso007 said:
XDAunlock tool doesn't work with WM2003 ... you have to down grade your ROM to PPC2002 ... try to cook any 3.17 based ROM from the kitchen here and it's better to flash your ROM with the SER v1.2 which will ulock your xda with the first reboot
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SER v1.2 cannot unlock WM2003 version radio stack 6.25 or A33.
The SER V1.2 is absolutely obsolete.
I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio

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I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio
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Thx for this already known info, but I expect the people coming to this forum for "FREE" advices ... then if it doesn't help they can seek a help with a charge if needed.
Note: even if SER v1.2 is obsolete (which is not true!), no one said it should be kept to be used as the final ROM (even tho it's still working fine) ... it's just a transitional state for unlocking ... and for the RSU issue, many people here down graded the RSU then unlock then upgrade back to a recent RSU ... and they did it with no charge as well

Biso007 said:
cgigate said:
I have developed new tools to unlock under MW2003 new radio
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Thx for this already known info, but I expect the people coming to this forum for "FREE" advices ... then if it doesn't help they can seek a help with a charge if needed.
Note: even if SER v1.2 is obsolete (which is not true!), no one said it should be kept to be used as the final ROM (even tho it's still working fine) ... it's just a transitional state for unlocking ... and for the RSU issue, many people here down graded the RSU then unlock then upgrade back to a recent RSU ... and they did it with no charge as well
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Downgrade Radio stack is big risk!
Many XDAs are dead cause radio stack downgrade/upgrade failure!

2003se, final and GSM900|1800

Sorri for bad english.. i`m Russan.
I have T-Mobile MDA 1 32mb. PPC2002
Have ROM (on kitchen) 4.01.16
Radio 310.
I see "Settings" - "Phone" - "Band" GSM 900 (Europe) and GSM 1900 (North America).
My GSM operator work 900|1800. How to switch it?
The second question. It is impossible to establish 2003SE.
.exe not working. Error USB connect. How?

xda2's which the imate is support 900/1800/1900
xda1 comes in 2 versions one which is 900/1800 for eu
and one which is 900/1900 for us
there is no way i know of to change an xda1

I've to correct Rudgear a bit....
ROM 4.01.16 sets in most cases the band to 900/1900. If you got a PW10A modell (check rear side of your device) you have to set it back to 900/1800 via Bootloader
Instructiony could be found here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ChangingBandsWithBootloader
Pay Attention: Entering Bootloader is just like doing a hard reset, so don't forget to backup your data.....
Concernig your problem about Upgrade to WM2003SE. A mentiond 1000 times here in the forum, this causes from the t-mobile ROM installed on your device. You have to downgrade the ROM first to a "normal" ROM (like the special edition ROM) via SD-Card, and then you can upgrade via exe file to WM2003SE
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
Concernig your problem about Upgrade to WM2003SE. A mentiond 1000 times here in the forum, this causes from the t-mobile ROM installed on your device. You have to downgrade the ROM first to a "normal" ROM (like the special edition ROM) via SD-Card, and then you can upgrade via exe file to WM2003SE
Stefan
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Sorry, i read this. I downgrade to spetial edition ROM. I run rom.exe (2003se kitchen) and view window:
Adapt ROM
Error connecting to XDA.
(Active Sync worked)