GPRS Sound indicator - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

when turning on the phone (after a reset or just turning it on), the phone looks for the signal and once it's found it makes this little sound (like a small, short beep). at the same time the "G" for GPRS can be seen on the upper part of the screen. does anyone know the NAME of that sound :?: file? i have a short wav file that i want to use for the GPRS connection indicator. before the low bat sound fix came out; what i did was get the name of the default lowbat wav file name; then replaced it with another wav file (overwrite).
cheers

hi
i`v done some research for you and it came out with some interesting resaults :wink: here they are:
this GPRS sound you`r hearing is the same sound that's being played when you change the volume with the side volume button on the xda and the slider is in the middle.
this is NOT a WAV file. its called standard.mid.
:shock:
here is the interesting part. 8)
the xda is capable of playing small 1 note MIDI files! as system sounds.
when you hang-up a call you hear another MIDI file called pegdisconnect.mid.
so in order to change these files, you need a midi editor like cakewalk. just note when you edit these files that they have to be in a 1 note format (1 channel).
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SoniC

hey,
thanks a bunch for that info; first time i found out that the xda was capable of playing midi files! so i take it the sound i'm hearing has the name of "standard.mid"? if so, is it possible to convert standard wav files to midi files as well (using those media-file converters (e.g. wav to mp3)?
i'll give the midi file editor a try; and keep in mind what you've said about the one-note format. what happens if it's more than that....no sound?
cheers mate!

"is it possible to convert standard wav files to midi files as well (using those media-file converters (e.g. wav to mp3)?"
because mid files are a pattern of predefined instruments those programs need to make many choices to convert and the result is often hhmmm interesting and of cause not voice and strange sounds like that of a car door closing

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Rise and Shine

I'm having difficulty getting up in the morning! Does anyone know of a good alarm tool for the xda. The one that comes with it never seems to work/wake me up. The functionality is rubbish .
I have no problems whatsoever...
Be sure you checked the checkbox next to the desired alarm, and you selected the appropriate days the alarm will sound
-edit- Oh, and try a decent WAV file, I prefer the "Good Morning Charlie!" from Charlies Angels
hey,
i agree; the alarm function of the xda seems to be fine. i use the wav file from finding nemo where all those crazy seagulls keep on saying "mine! mine! mine!" that's when i want to be really awakened; but when i prefer to use an alarm but gently have it wake me up i use a wav file for a song with a soft opening.
you can always download a 3rd party alarm app such as stoptime; which comes with a timer, mirror, calendar and stopwatch program along with the alarm clock.
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robs
I tried this last night. However, the alarm only comes on for me when you switch the screen on. i.e if i set the alarm at 1.00pm. It wont go off. However, as soon as I switch it on the aralarm sounds. Am I doing something wrong?
Also I only have a limited selection of alarams. How do you add other wav files in?
Thanks
You may need the WakeUp Tweak program from:
http://www.burroak.on.ca/wm2k3tweaks.html
Thanks for that . I'll try it out, but maybe not on the weekend!
hey jupiter,
you can easily add wav files by simply while using activesync; just copy wav files and paste them into the windows folder of the xda. the wav files should then appear when you want to choose a sound for an alarm. however; do note that there are SOME wav files which don't seem to work. i did read in this forum that this has to do with the wav file format...whatever that is as i'm not familiar with it. but it does happen; some wav files don't work. sadly i can't find the forum thread where this was discussed.
cheers
robson
That works. Brilliant. Thanks
Some Wavs do not work because they are not in PCM WAV Format, more likely they are MPEG layer-3 WAV format.
Converting them is easy - using the windows sound recorder utility (sndrec32.exe), open the wav,
Click File->Properties
Click "Convert Now"
On the next screen, ensure the format drop-down is PCM, then change the attributes to whatever you want.
Personally I use 11.025 khz, 8 Bit, Mono

Wav file length and formats

Hi guys
Does anyone know if there is a limitation to what you can have as a ringtone?
I have done what *seems* right, it even plays on media player on the M1000 but I cannot get the wav to load in the "Add Ring Tone" section.
Does the file have to be some obscure wav format or no longer than say 20 seconds etc?
Has anyone come across this problem as well?
Cheers
Ben
it have to be good old std wav which is called PCM
not sure if there are any length issues
try
looking if it shows up in sounds and notifications
or make sure the file is places in windows or windows\rings or something like that
Ok - I have tried a standard PCM wav and it still doesnt like it! Also tried a short 1 second one and that doesnt work!
Confused? I am!!!
did you put it in windows ?
did you put it in windows/rings ?
did you try and see if you could choose it under sound and notifications insted there you can choose both phone rings and others
add ring tones are mainly used for adding wma's

Difficulty adding my own ringtones

I have audio files of various formats which I wish to use clips from as ringtones. I notice that the preset ringtones are WMA format, & try making the file I wish to use into a WMA, yet my Xda2 still does not show it on the ringtones list.
What must I do to make an audio file on my desktop PC into a ringtone for my Xda2?
there is a program in the settings section system tab called "add ringtone" you can use that or if all else fails you can put your WMA file directly in the directory "My Pocket PC/Windows/" in your XDA.. then try looking at your ringtone list.. it should be there..
Neither work. ;_; The file is currently in windows, & add ringtone does not show it.
some people report that the xda's cant play all bitrate wma's try to see if you can play them on media player
EotW said:
I have audio files of various formats which I wish to use clips from as ringtones. I notice that the preset ringtones are WMA format, & try making the file I wish to use into a WMA, yet my Xda2 still does not show it on the ringtones list.
What must I do to make an audio file on my desktop PC into a ringtone for my Xda2?
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convert your .mp3 or any other audio file using dpoweramp converter its freeware and then copy that .wma to \mypocketpc\windows\rings and paste it there, and then just open sound and notifications on your pda and select incoming call and choose that .wma that you pasted IT SHOULD WORK FOR SURE !!
regards
jeetz
or if all else fails, instead of converting your mp3's to wma, why don't you just convert it straight to wav format? that way you won't have any problems.. because one problem with the wma format ringtones is if you use it for the sms alert once it rings it wont stop (since it is long) even if you click on everything.. which sucks big time.. while in wav you can easily cut the song to the part you only want with alot of different wav editors..
Ring Tones.
Hi there,
I have an XDA II and I hv tried this great progrm Ringtone X this is available for download / purchase at www.mtux.com not only u can use wma files but also wav and midi files to set as ring tones. U can also set ring tones by group / individual contact or by phone No. great program. try it.
Success. ^_^ Realised the 'add ringtone' option didn't detect the WMA file, so used a WAV, then found the directory 'Rings' in Windows, & switched it for the WMA again. Found out it doesn't like mp3 files for ringtones, & that any files with foreign characters in their names (eg Japanese, etc) will not transfer.
Thank you all for the help.
Help is my middle name... heehee
The easiest way to get them working is to drop a wma into the rings folder, they should appear in the drop down from phone options after doing so (you will have to exit the options page if you had it open whilst transferring the file).
Any good sound editing program (nero wav editor, audacity, av music morpher) should allow you to load your file up, chop and change it and then save out as a wma. Try lowering the quality slightly to bring the file size down even further(wma should be a lot smaller than wav).
As for other sound notifications on the Xda, just drop a wav file into the Windows folder to add it to the appropriate drop down.
well i agree WMA is slightly lighter than WAV.. but if you're not too familiar with audio editing better use WAV and edit it with Audioblock as it has an easy interface or if you are an advanced user and wants to cut WMA better use Adobe Audition or the newer versions..

MIDI as Alarm

Hi,
I read that it is possible to have MIDI files as alarm sounds so i put a midi file i use on my old SE in the windows directory and when i go to choose the alarm tone i don't see it. is this supported in MDA Compact? what am i doing wrong? please advise. thanks
were did you read this? afaik... you can use midi, wav, mp3, wma for ringtones (via caller id app) windows mobile uses wav and wma for ringtones, but wav only for alerts. hope this helps.
I think it was on the AlarmToday user forum. i thought something was wrong. anyway, thanks for replying, it's a shame that midi cannot be used for alarms i don't think it's a technical or logical impossibility but microsoft works in mysterious ways i suppose. if there's a workaround or a program that would do this i would greately appreciate it if someone could point it out. once again, many thanks
Well, if you have a midi player for pocket pc installed you might be able to pull it off with AlarmToday.
On their site I read:
"Powerful custom alarms to play music (including complete songlists, MP3, WMA, OGG or Realplayer), open documents or applications and much more"
This should in theory make it possible to create an alarm event that starts the midi player software with the midi file of your choice.
Why not convert your midi file to wav it's very simple and then you can use it as an alert?
Do you know the wav file type is so much bigger than the other types of audio?
I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files
Thanks for your thoughts
stratguy said:
I sure do realize that but why would you need a whole song for an alert. Change the stereo to mono and 16 bit to 8 bit and trim it down to a length that it needs to be as an alert and it will not be much if any bigger than the midi file.
If you can't live with the shorter version then you should stay with midi because you are right they take up much lesss room, but I myself don't want a whole song played for an alert. The longest one I would ever use would be 2 seconds then let it repeat again for each alert.
If you use this procedure you can have many wav files as alerts.
I've had a recording studio here in Nashville TN since the early 80's and over the years I found out that if you will bend a little there is always a way to get what you want. Let me know if you need any help with turncating your wav files
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I still use a SE P800 smartphone and what you just wrote is what I had to do. WAV files are big but with a bit of creativity in making an alert or ringtones it is just to easy. " Ask and you shall receive"
X-man germ
Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:
stratguy said:
Cool by the way where did you get that last part of your handle "germ" are you a musician:?:
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No, I am not a musician. My username is just a nick name from my first name and the germ part is only short for Germany.
Cool thanks, germ is a term we use in the music biz. Thats why I wonered :lol:
Maybe my music taste in "Rage against the Machine" which leads left can explain why I choose my name. Power to the People.
Wat Software do U use to do this? I am looking for a software that can transform anything in everything (mp3, wav) from original CD's. and cut them in small durations. I don't find that...
I use CDex, which BTW is a free program. I love it

Changing Alarm and message sounds

ok. stupid newbie question...
how do i change the sound my phone makes when a message beeps thru to anything other than the bloody voice saying "you have new message"
also the alarm? can i make it an mp3 or WMA?
thanks- only had the phone 2 days.
MontAlbert said:
ok. stupid newbie question...
how do i change the sound my phone makes when a message beeps thru to anything other than the bloody voice saying "you have new message"
also the alarm? can i make it an mp3 or WMA?
thanks- only had the phone 2 days.
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Sometimes it helps if you use the manual!
thanks for your helpful reply!!
Dont you think i have read the manual from cover to cover- it doesnt say where i have to put the files for it to be used as the alarm tone or the message tone!!
THANKS
MontAlbert said:
thanks for your helpful reply!!
Dont you think i have read the manual from cover to cover- it doesnt say where i have to put the files for it to be used as the alarm tone or the message tone!!
THANKS
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Ok ok, put in /windows/Rings folder on your device.
it seems that you can only use .wav file format, is there any workaround to use .mp3, .mp4 or .wma files? wav audio format is so big it will be a complete waste of memory, btw. for alarms sound you must copy wav to \windows folder
Did you know that actual size of predefined .wav files in windows folder is almost 2MB and you can't delete it?
banesi said:
it seems that you can only use .wav file format, is there any workaround to use .mp3, .mp4 or .wma files? wav audio format is so big it will be a complete waste of memory, btw. for alarms sound you must copy wav to \windows folder
Did you know that actual size of predefined .wav files in windows folder is almost 2MB and you can't delete it?
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you can use mp3 and mp3 has smaller Filesize than wav. just use a good converter and use low bitrate. you can also cut mp3 files as you might do not want the whole 5th symphony for a ringing tone.
yeah- i got the ring tone to be changed to my favourite Hatebreed song but for the life of me cannot get it to change the alarm ring tone to something other than those included with the phone..... i used to have an edited mp3 as alarm tone for my sony-ericcson..... i am assuming this phone is better and can do that.......
any ideas to change the alarm tone?
thanks
Scott
saminegm said:
you can use mp3 ...
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Yes for ringtone but NOT for alarms and sms, if someone know how to do it please xplain ...
G'Day Guys,
You need to use .WAV files bummer I know as they are generally larger but it is the only way to use them.
Convert your MP3 files to .wav with a program such as Ease Audio Converter:
http://www.soft32.com/download_15987.html
Once converted, connect your phone to the USB Sync Cable and let is sync.
Once synced go to >my computer>mobile device>my windows mobile-based device>windows and place your .wav file in the windows folder.
It should convert the file for mobile windows format.
Then in your phone go >start>settings>sounds&notifications>notifications>events and select event, then associated sound.
or for alarm
>start>settings>system>clock & alarms>bell symbol and select sound.
I found that the sound file for the alarm cant be too long, at 17 sec it wouldnt work at 10sec it would................ Again I used "ease Audio converter" to clip the length of the wav file.
Hope this helps, spent many hours delving around on the net finding the answers.
Regards,
BIQ
can this be stickied or put in the wiki under common problems with the Trinity? just an idea
LightInsomnia said:
can this be stickied or put in the wiki under common problems with the Trinity? just an idea
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This is nothing to do with the Trinity as such- it is, and has been, universal with all Pocket PC/ Windows Mobile devices.
As the previous posters have said:
Ringtones can be WAV, MID, WMA or MP3 and need to be in the Windows/Rings folder. Later devices have other permissible locations, but Rings is univerfsal.
Other notifications must be WAV files, and preferably need to be 25KB or less. These need to be in the Windows folder, and are selected via the Settings/Sounds and Notifications control panel.
You can use MP3's as alarm, SMS and messaging tones, but you need add-on programs- SpB Time /Chronos etc for alarms, Ringo Mobile for SMS & Contacts etc.

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