Ken_xda <--> Valheru (orig. in ROMkitchen thread) - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

BTW, would win 98 or xp cause any problem in the installation process?
Thanks again,

OS not detected in the log doesnt appear to be a big deal. XP works fine with the SD card bootloader method with ppc2003

Dear Val,
You're my life savior, thanks again, I'll inform you what happens (hope it'll work fine, bty, I don't mind having another SD card erasure, if it is once and for all).

Are you native Thai? Your English is fantastic. I have a few Thai friends who would be very envious. Good Luck.

Hi Jeff, great job, any way you could post/email instructions about how to get our own kitchens up and running?

Are you native Thai? Your English is fantastic. I have a few Thai friends who would be very envious. Good Luck.
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Yeah, but I was raised up in Oxford, UK (Looonnggg Time ago). Cheers
BTY, Val, if I choose not to install the Jeff's romkitchen through bootloader method, but rather through the .exe using my window xp, do you think it's OK? (the truth is I don't have a card reader and I'm running bootloader V5.17) I really don't want to make my like harder than it is now, so I prefer the rather-straight forward route. Thank you

You can install via .exe if you wish however if you want to downgrade your ROM you will need to use the bootloader method for best results. Bootloaders are cheap and worth every penny. In otherwords, get one soon! This will also help with backing up your ROM image which is very important in case you break something. Take Care.

Val, you are reaaaaallly responsive. Thanks again for your prompt reply. cheers.

thanks, i'm been by the computer most of today, going out to eat, back in a few hours.

Val, I guess your meal time equates my bed time, it's nearly 5 am now in Bangkok. Talk 2 you later. Thanks again

Dear Val and XDA Dev,
Just when I thought I could go to sleep, my SD card was erased again for the ......time (I lost my counting somewhere along 10s). Up to now, I do not know what causes it. BUT I DO KNOW how to check whether your SD Cards are secure from erasures. If you have the programme called "PHM Device Manager" just go to the Storage Port and check the Device ID under it. It is supposed to be pre-assigned and stay intact. If after a while of launching programs and/or soft-reseting the unit, the Device ID (SD Port ID) keeps numbering up, quickly lock your sd card before everything is erased.
If mates at XDA dev happen to know what causes changing of SD Port ID, please let me know. It looks to me as if the XDA is constantly examining the SD identification and each time it does, it recognizes the same SD card as different ones.
Please Advise, Thanks

Dear Val and XDA Dev,
Just when I thought I could go to sleep, my SD card was erased again for the ......time (I lost my counting somewhere along 10s). Up to now, I do not know what causes it. BUT I DO KNOW how to check whether your SD Cards are secure from erasures. If you have the programme called "PHM Device Manager" just go to the Storage Port and check the Device ID under it. It is supposed to be pre-assigned and stay intact. If after a while of launching programs and/or soft-reseting the unit, the Device ID (SD Port ID) keeps numbering up, quickly lock your sd card before everything is erased.
If mates at XDA dev happen to know what causes changing of SD Port ID, please let me know. It looks to me as if the XDA is constantly examining the SD identification and each time it does, it recognizes the same SD card as different ones.
Please Advise, Thanks
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Dear developers,
I have just also found out that the numbering up in Device ID (in Standard Disk Drive, DSK1) is 100% subject to how many times I have turned on/off the screen. Seems like the SD Card iteration is ignited each time the screen is turned off and on. ANyone, any clue to why?

on my xda currently @ dinner. Ken, I would get a card reader tomorrow and upgrade to Jeffs ROM asap. You cant downgrade right now for you upgraded via .exe. Can you get a card reader tomorrow?

Dear Val,
I'll manage to get the SD card Reader by tomorrow. Thousands of Thanks for your help

No Problem. Get the reader and we'll walk you through it. Keep in mind since you used the .exe to upgrade you will need to use the kitchen to save a rom that is based on ppc2002 if you want to go back. Talk you soon.
Please let us know the rom version etc that you have. If you already posted sorry for the double work on your part.

Dear Val,
My previous version was 3.17.03 radio stack (which is the same as now) was 4.21. The very version that one can download from o2 UK Website. I am not sure about the protocol version though.
One more thing, I've observed that all the ports (as shown in the PHM device manager programme-under "device by type" menu) have only entries in the Device ID, except for the DSK1 port that has both the Device ID and the Socket entries (the latter is set to 0 by default). Do you also use PHM device manager and if so, do you have identical settings.
Thanks in advance

good question. i have it installed but never looked at it. hold on...I dont have an entry in the ports section for a disk one. I only have:
serial cable on com1
serial cable on com2
serial on USB (com8)
serial port (com9)
I do have a standard disk drive (disk 1 under drives though. Hmmm. Any experts want to comment?

Dear Val, OOOPS it seems that I have misled you somehow. What I meant was the settings under the "Disk Drives"->"Standard Disk Drives (DSK1). I guess I must have messed things up with the port entry, sorry.

Time to get some sleep Ken. No problem at all. We are all here to help each other out. So it sound as though we have the same settings? Which type of SD Card do you have? I have a sandisk 256mb for normal use and a sandisk 64mb for flashing.

Dear Val, My device ID starts running up from 19 upto around 46 now. I guess your ID is intact, right? BTW, my SD Card is SanDisk 128Mb

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rom flash crash

hi folks tried to update special rom and upon where the XDa comes up with upgrading takes 5mins the software crashed out telling me to remove from cradle and do soft reset well did all that but cant get active sync to recongnise the XDA and the XDA is still on that upgraing 5 minute screen HELP
If it will not resume when you restart the upgrade program on the PC, then it's time to upgrade via the bootloader method. You need (access to)an SD-card reader/writer for the PC, and to read around on this forum a bit.
thanxs I guess thats the conclusion I came to however just to make sure do u know the steps involved in installing the special rom I have the download exe file someones put on the forum
****. I cooked a second ROM (based on testing the first one - and removing utils I didn't need)
Flashing started - but this time, ActiveSync dropped out and I was left with the 5 minutes screen.
I have tried hard reset but only the "upgrading' screen appears. Now I'm wishing I had never messed with it.
I can get the Wallaby Boot loader screen to come up (GSM OK) it says.
But I have no clue about this other "bootloader" method mentioned on this page. Can anyone please advise where can I find details of the fix? Is the ROM really wiped out and no longer recoverable?
I have the same problem as the first person who posted.
Then you will need to restore the OS using an SD card. (Min 64mb).
Probably easiest to cook a ROM at Jeffs Kitchen to your taste:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Save it as .nb1 type (bottom of that page).
Then get XDA Tools (yes I know its starting to sound complicated but its not really). http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
That program allows you to copy the .nb1 file you cooked to be loaded onto the SD card.
Once you have transferred the OS (.nb1) file to the SD, stick it in your XDA.
Turn on the XDA pressing simultaneously the on switch and sticking the stylus in the SOFT reset hole.
You should get a white screen saying something like flash ROM from SD. Press the JOG (navigator) big switch at the bottom to start the process.
Make sure you have mains power to XDA during this process.
When it finishes, REMOVE the SD card and press HARD reset.
Should be back to normal!
p.s. It goes without saying that you need an SD card reader !!
p.p.s I hope yours is better than mine. Try to get the latest version with drivers that can deal with big SD card sizes...
It does not say hard reset it say cold reboot to reset. So I did a soft reset and it worked after about 7 tries.
I really like what they did with this ROM Kitchen. I would think that if they can get this really stable then they should offer a service to create your own ROM's allowing the user to select what programs they want to include in the ROM.
Er, if you read other areas on this site you will notice that this is run by enthusiasts, who are making their work available to others.
So a little please and thank you will ease your way.
Rather than... "they should" maybe "it would be nice if...."
:idea: If you really want to DIY - then follow all the instructions, get yourself a Unix platform and MKROM.
Bye
ps sorry I got one detail wrong.
pps Sorry I bothered actually
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Er, if you read other areas on this site you will notice that this is run by enthusiasts, who are making their work available to others.
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Believe me as the owner of www.pocketpcminds.com I understand this. Back in the days of carrying a Palm OS device there a program that allowed you to add and delete things in your ROM.
What I was suggestion is a service that users could pay for that would inlude a list of Pocket PC programs that the users could choose what programs they want loaded in the ROM. From what I have seen of Pocket PC users each person has a list of programs that they find useful and use regularly.
I onlt suggest this because the people running this need to cover thier cost. Otherwise they may use intrest and stop it all together.
We're all too busy with other things to turn the ROMkitchen into a commercial thing. But if anyone else wants to do so, please contact us.
Pro:
- It would be a great sales platform for software (spb gprs monitor, PIMs, etc.)
Con:
- Available space shrinks as OS grows
- No idea how this works out on XDA II yet
Can't burn the Wallaby Patch to the SD
When I try to burn Wallaby Patch to SD the following error appears
Failed to open device \\.\PhysicalDrive8
Anyone help with this.
hi I did all that but when the XDA is being flashed it finishes but comes with achecksum error now I know I am doing everything right as I managed to reload O2 original .nb1 file and my xda is still as was however I want the forums version rom so can unlock many thanx for the previous how 2 instructions
SD card flash - 5 min screen
Ariel said:
Then you will need to restore the OS using an SD card. (Min 64mb).
Probably easiest to cook a ROM at Jeffs Kitchen to your taste:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Save it as .nb1 type (bottom of that page).
Then get XDA Tools (yes I know its starting to sound complicated but its not really). http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
That program allows you to copy the .nb1 file you cooked to be loaded onto the SD card.
Once you have transferred the OS (.nb1) file to the SD, stick it in your XDA.
Turn on the XDA pressing simultaneously the on switch and sticking the stylus in the SOFT reset hole.
You should get a white screen saying something like flash ROM from SD. Press the JOG (navigator) big switch at the bottom to start the process.
Make sure you have mains power to XDA during this process.
When it finishes, REMOVE the SD card and press HARD reset.
Should be back to normal!
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I have a similar 5 min screen, and I tried as told, that is bought a card reader, cooked ROM, downloaded and transferred the nk.nb1 file to sd card using xda-tools, and entered into bootloader. But all I get is WAIT and then GSM OK message. Not the one that gives me option of flashing the ROM. How exactly to transfer the ROM image to SD card?
Rom Flash Crash
Just in case
I found that getting the XDA going initially by putting across the O2 installer programmeA onto the SD card rebootting with soft reset which installs the standard O2 locked phone system however this allows your XDA to be seen by the PC
all I did then was using the Kitchen Rom is double clicked it then goes into install mode through Programme A and does a PC to phone install.
I found I reinstalled twice and the phone now is working unlocked as required
I tried many times to do the soft reset install as instructed on the forum but it just crashed everytime
I guess the WBL version 5.15 does not identify nk.nb1 file as a rom image. it needs the rom image in raw form, the same as it is copied by bootloader that is WinCE to SD. I think the old XDArit writes it in the required format. dont know how the XDA-Tools does it.
ROM flash crash - solved!
It finally worked. With help from ntabikha, a member of this forum, I got it going. I plugged it in the cradle after hard reset. Activesync kept announcing that it can not connect to the device, and I kept clicking "Retry" (perhaps "disconnect com port" might as well have been all right, but I didn't do it. I thought it might disconnect the com port and stop the Program A from connecting to the device).
I then ran the Original Qtek Upgrade installer, and it did not connect on the first attempt. But it asked me to soft reset the device and run the program again. I did so, and whoa! it worked! It worked great! However, I don't understand why the cooked version 3.17 from Jeff's kitchen was installed instead of Qtek Upgrade Version 3.16.52. I care the least though, since I now have a working xda! Thanks to the guidance from ntabikha.

Bootloader method question

I have a dead XDA (died while reflashing - some problem with the USB connection) !
I believe that I -may- be able to recover via an SD card. I have read what I can find, but I am not clear about this.
The instructions for flashing the ROM "bootloader" way assume that I can dowload my existing ROM to the SD card and then (I suppose) boot from the SD card?
Since the ROM is trashed (I assume) due to the flash failing, I also assume that I have no viable ROM image to load onto the SD card...?
Is there a URL I can inform myself about this? I've browsed all over this site but can't find anything that seems to address my situation.
I use MSN Messenger if that is easier: [email protected]
I'm really depressed...
Mtks
There's a set of tools here for writing a ROM image to SD-card. Click here to read more.
Using this tool you can write an any ROM image file to an SD-card. The only drawback is that you'll need an SD-card reader-writer attached to your PC, or access to another XDA with functional ROM to do the writing.
Pain in the ass, but if you're willing to accept the current geo-political situation as it is, then this is really nothing to get depressed over...
Hi.
Well I have a card reader, but since my XDA screen is a mess I don't have access to another XDA.
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Hi.
Well I have a card reader, but since my XDA screen is a mess I don't have access to another XDA.
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AS far as the ROM goes you can build your own just make it a .nb1 file. visit: http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen
The screen being messed up shouldn't be a problem just put the SD card into the XDA and hold the power button while doing a soft reset. You’ll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
HTH
Qman:
Many thanks, I needed this spelled out. Hopefuly last question for now:
Which is the ACTION key? CONTACT or CALENDAR button? (there is no such named key on the XDA)
cheers,
Justin
Well what a performance... dodgy card reader, problems over the maximum memory size of the media, not working then working after re-boot....
I'm surprised i cracked it, but I did.
I eventually found the right combination of device and file and cooperative card reader to finally see the ROM (which was cooked at Jeff's Kitchen amd selected as an .nb1 type file rather than an EXE file) copy over to the 128mb SD card.
On insertion into the XDA and re-boot I got the dialogue you described.
I decided that the ACTION key is the navigator key at the bottom of the unit pressed that and the restore began.
I even seem to have managed to RESTORE from an STG backup once I made sure that the personal details (device name) were renamed to the original machine (not Pocket_PC)
Well thanks -very-much for the help. (I only wrote the above to maybe help someone else in the future, who may have the same questions as me).
Now I can go back to playing with the ROM set-up.
I suppose I am right in saying that the ROM version currently at Jeff's Kitchen does not include XDA DEV v1.2?? It certainly doesn't behave as described (the start up tutorial is still there). Also the keyboard option makes the space bar disappear...!!
Thanks to Peter Poelman and Qman.
Cheers
Ariel said:
I suppose I am right in saying that the ROM version currently at Jeff's Kitchen does not include XDA DEV v1.2?? It certainly doesn't behave as described (the start up tutorial is still there). Also the keyboard option makes the space bar disappear...!!
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I think you may have checked 'Large keys' and 'use gestures'. See the keyboard options to set it like you're used to. (Althoug I prefer 'large keys' and 'use gestures').
Yes, you're right. I will have to get another copy as I don't like it.
Do you happen to know whether v1.2 is being used at Jeffs Kitchen? he first option)
Cheers
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Yes, you're right. I will have to get another copy as I don't like it.
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Or just turn it off once after cold-boot...
Do you happen to know whether v1.2 is being used at Jeffs Kitchen?
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Special Edition ROM v1.2 is just the last ROM we built before offering everyone the option of cooking their own ROMs in the ROMkitchen. So I guess you could look at ROMkitchen as a continously evolving "Special Edition ROM 2.x", if you will.

ROM upgrade help

I wanted to install one of the ROMs from www.yorch.net. But before doing so I have some questions:
1. If I choose to build ROM as an installer.exe, is installing it to my device as simple as running the .exe file? (of course with the device connected thru Activesync)
2. Is my present ROM (see specs below) supported?
3. If Murphy comes to visit and I screw up, will my phone be completely unusable or can I just reinstall old ROM, do hard reset and everything will be back to how it was?
My specs:
OS: Pocket PC ver 3.0.12039
ROM:3.20.06 ENG( 07/30/03) (O2 Asia I think since I bought it here in the Philippines)
Radio: 4.21.00.
Thanks
1 as far as i know yes havent don it to my own device yet though
2 a rom dont have to support a rom since it'll overwrite it
3 of cause merphy can also show his ugly face
but if all fails a sd flash reader writer can save many a tears
also if your phone is working ok then i would not mess with the
radio stack and beware because some roms include the radio stack
and if you try to update your radio stack to a US (900/1900) and you network is 900/1800 you could be in for a world of pain
ROM upgrade step by step
OK I'm really dying to give it a go but I'm just a overly cautious bloke. So I'm gonna outline what I interpreted (after reading lots of posts I think I'm getting it but not sure) to be the way do the upgrade. Please correct me if i'm wrong:
Equipment I have:
1. My notebook (Windows XP, Activesynch 3.7)
2. O2 XDAI
3. Cradle and USB connection.
Steps that I think I should take:
1. Place XDA on cradle and make sure it's connected with PC.
2. Backup?? (not so sure what to back up since contacts, calendar, notes are synched with outlook, docs are also synched, I have copies of cab and program files since I download them to PC before installing them to XDA.) If i'm missing something please slam a frying pan (this is a kitchen right?) on my head.
3. Go to www.yorch.net, check mark on all appropriate options, then (since I have to Unix box and dont know Unix at all) just go for the easy option of cooking the .exe install file.
4. Assuming, the .exe is downloaded to my PC. This time I just run it. I expect this to be just like installing PPC apps. If not, throw a tomato on my face
5. Assuming everything worked and Murphy's in the Arctic freezing his A**e off, then all I do now is hard reset.
6. I have a new ROM and I'm singing happy-happy-joy-joy.
To the wonderful people at xda-developers, am I in the right direction or am I as lost as Bill and Ted? If I'm lost, is there a step-by-step guide for non-unix programmers? (Sorry, there was a sticky but I thought it was for people with Unix boxes)
Once again, thanks for all your help and your patience.
2. Backup?? (not so sure what to back up since contacts, calendar, notes are synched with outlook, docs are also synched, I have copies of cab and program files since I download them to PC before installing them to XDA.) If i'm missing something please slam a frying pan (this is a kitchen right?) on my head.
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well i can think of one thing to backup and thats your current rom
so if you dont like the new rom you are getting you have the option to go back
of cause if the rom you have now is downloadble from a place you know like your isp then maybe it dont matter
Thanks for the reply. That's a good point. Question: When you back up old ROM, is it just the ROM that gets backed up or is it the whole content of the device, like how you do in PCs?
Also, since no one, besides you, has made any comments regarding the steps that I outlined, is it safe to say that they are the correct steps?
Thanks
When you backup your ROM, no stuff that you customised will be in the backup - the backed up ROM will be the same as when you received it from your retail shop, or if you upgraded, it will be the upgraded ROM without any of your stuff. Do a backup and store it on your hard disk.
DON'T use the .exe cooked ROM, use a .nb1 or .nbf, and use XDA Tools from this site to do the upgrade. It's very easy that way, and less dangerous. Don't upgrade your radio stack unless you know exactly what you're doing, or your phone supplier has made an update available just for you.
If you use a T-Mobile ROM above version 4.00.05 it blocks the XDA-Tools from updating the ROM. At that point you need to use XDARIT (from this site) to low-level write the ROM image you have onto your SD card using an SD card reader which shows the card as another drive on your computer. Once you do that you need to boot into the boot-loader (press the reset button while holding the power button) and follow the prompts to restore from an SD card. If you're unlucky and are running bootloader 5.17 (or above I think) you need to write the bootloader diagnostics patch (wallaby patch from this site) onto your SD card first before doing the boot into the bootloader thing. You can then remove the SD card, write the O/S ROM onto it with XDRIT, and put it back into your phone while it's still sitting on in diagnostics mode. Then you can restore from the SD.
It sounds complicated, but it's easy, as long as you have an SD card reader, and as long as you don't mess with trying to update the bootloader or do an unknown radio update. There's lots of info in these forums if you get stuck.
I made a thread that summarised all the steps using the new tools and ROM's at this address : http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3860. It's for Asian/European users, but if you are in the US the instructions are the same, except instead of using European 900/1800 radio you use 900/1900.
Further questions on ROM update
Thanks. It's becoming clearer and clearer. Have more clarifying questions:
1. How do you know whether or not you're including the radio stack with the ROM upgrade at yorch.net. I did not see any options there.
2. At www. yorch.net, nothing happens when I press the "Build ROM Now" command button. Is the download supposed to happen in the background or is there something wrong with my PC or the site?
3. I dont think I'm using the T-mobile ROM but how do I know if I'm runing bootloader 5.17? Is bootloader 5.17 only for T-Mobile users or all?
Once again, thanks for the help and bearing with a newbie.
2. At www. yorch.net, nothing happens when I press the "Build ROM Now" command button. Is the download supposed to happen in the background or is there something wrong with my PC or the site?
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it should start to write some text about the progress of making the rom
and when it's finished then it should init a std download dialog
The meter down at the status bar does move, same as when you're loading a webpage, then it says Done. That's about it. Didnt see any other messages or dialogue boxes.
Can anyone confirm if it's up today or has it been down?
Thanks
PS. Tried to email using the email utility at the website but getting errors there as well.
OK, firstly to answer your question about Yorch's site... well it worked for me in getting all the ROM's I wanted, then when I went back again the download didn't work. I guess it's just on and off, so unless Yorch finishes getting married or someone else makes another kitchen it's a matter of pot luck. You can get away without using the kitchen if you can find another download source for ROM's, whether it be FTP or whatever. Just remember if you get an exe you can usually pull it apart with winzip to get the .nb1 or .nbf out of it.
Now, for Q1 :
An operating system ROM is generally just under 32MB, but when zipped from Yorch it's usually about 14 or 15MB - the operating system ROM will NEVER be smaller than that. I'm not sure about the exact radio stack size but I know it's a lot less than that. Also, doing some homework about the operating system ROM helps. eg. reading about the 4.01.00 ROM tells you that it's not a radio stack upgrade, it's an operating system upgrade - and the filename and the size of the file you receive reflects that.
Q2:
answered above...
Q3:
I think the bootloader is just pot-luck depending on when you phone was released. To check your bootloader it will reset your device completely, but I read somewhere that if you turn the radio (phone) off it doesn't hard reset. If you're worried, do a full backup first. But basically when you're ready to look, reset your phone while holding the power button and it will tell you the bootloader version. Don't be too turned off by that, I have read that SD card readers can be picked up very cheap if you look around, and that's all you need to get you out of trouble regardless of the bootloader version.
There's no real risk (but I won't guarantee anything), just make sure your phone is fully charged before mucking about with SD upgrades. Also make sure the radio (phone) is switched off before upgrading... using the bootloader/sd card method you shouldn't need to be concerned. I'm not sure what effect having your phone on and receiving a call while using XDA-Tools can have, but someone did mention it somewhere.
I'm a newbie too, but there's really not much you need to know, just a few caveats.
Yorch's Kitchen has been working OK for me the last couple of days. It takes maybe about 5 mins to "cook" before telling me that the ROM is ready. The 4.00.05 ROM gave me a lot of ActiveSync problems, so I went to the 4.00.16 ROM tonight and it looks like it's behaving better.
My SD reader is a Microtech Zio. It appears as a disk drive in windows, but the newer XDArit can't initialize a connection to write to the SD card. I used the "dangerous" older version of XDArit instead (available on Yorch's site), and it's worked OK for me (so far?).
One thing I wish I had realized before I started playing - going into the bootloader will reset your phone most (some?) (all?) of the time.
While I was flashing the ROM tonight I could see the GSM light flashing - I had the same "hope no one calls" feeling tht others must have had. Note that this was while I was flashing from an SD card in the bootloader - so apparently the process doesn't deactivate the phone while it's ongoing.
Muchas Gracias!
Ebswift, if ur a newbie then ur the god of the newbies. Thanks for all the help and for making me see the light. Much appreciated...
A quick Q:
Is the process for installing an .nbf file the same as that for installing an .nb1 file?
I have cooked a few ROMS to an .nb1 format and installed those OK, but now I have one in .nbf that I'd like to install.
So what I'd plan to do is put the nbf onto an SD card using XDArit, and then stick the card in the PPCPE and reboot to the loader. Is that it?
So what I'd plan to do is put the nbf onto an SD card using XDArit, and then stick the card in the PPCPE and reboot to the loader. Is that it?
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You can do it that way (onto the SD card), or if you're not already using a T-Mobile ROM you can use XDA Tools which is easier. Basically the capabilities are spelled out for you with the available file types in the drop downs when you select a source.

HTC Tytn (WM5 to WM6) for newbies (Help)

Hello everyone!
I have a HTC Tytn with WM5, and want to update it to WM6 (or later, with perfect and stable versions)
I´ve read loads of post, and got confused with so many applications and proceedments.
This is my first time with flashing/updating with these kind of devices, and need help to update my device.
I think for me and for future reference (for other users) that a step by step tutorial would be great.
P.S - I already searched the forum, and web for a step by step procedure wih no success.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I also got a Tytn with WM5 and now I am using WM6 released by HTC and ATT officially. This official WM6 Professional room was available before Aug 2008 and after that period, ATT offical website no longer provide download service. I searched on google for a few hours and finally get an official released rom. And this rom can work by just connecting your fully battery charged Tytn via USB and execute the *exe file you downloaded. It's very easy.
My suggestion: Ask google where can you get this room downloaded. And further more. Attention suspective links. There do exists free download without requirement of some sensitive information(Credit card number, etc)
Sheitx said:
Hello everyone!
I have a HTC Tytn with WM5, and want to update it to WM6 (or later, with perfect and stable versions)
I´ve read loads of post, and got confused with so many applications and proceedments.
This is my first time with flashing/updating with these kind of devices, and need help to update my device.
I think for me and for future reference (for other users) that a step by step tutorial would be great.
P.S - I already searched the forum, and web for a step by step procedure wih no success.
Thanks in advance.
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If you've searcherd then you know to install Hard SPL V7 first... After that you can use the sd card method to install ANY Hermes rom... A quick search will give details, I know I've typed it out enough times...
Cheers....
Dear Ultramag69,
I do want to install Hard SPL V7 first, but I fail for almost every known method
to install it into my device. And I do unlock to super CID under the guide got
from this forum. I don't know why. So finally I decided to use a official release
version.
ultramag69 said:
If you've searcherd then you know to install Hard SPL V7 first... After that you can use the sd card method to install ANY Hermes rom... A quick search will give details, I know I've typed it out enough times...
Cheers....
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Go to the sticky about Hard SPL in the upgrading section, page 116, post 1160. It will tell you how to use the sd card to upgrade the SPL. Just remember that you need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 or it won't work...
Thanks I'll try. But before that I am interested that whether the upgrade for Hermes from WM6 to WM6.5 would save me memory for running programms? The problem I am facing is that after I open WIFI and Palringo I will use 70% memory. When I open Google Map, then it eats 87% of memory. Can upgrade to un official WM6.5 help me solve this problem, or in reverse, latest system requires more memory?
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Go to the sticky about Hard SPL in the upgrading section, page 116, post 1160. It will tell you how to use the sd card to upgrade the SPL. Just remember that you need a 2Gb or less sd card formatted FAT32 or it won't work...
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Look for app called x-button, it closes apps instead of minimizing them...
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Look for app called x-button, it closes apps instead of minimizing them...
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I use HTC Task Manager and it also offers Close "X" button for all running Apps. But I want remove some ATT software encored in my windows mobile system, such as ATT Music, Mobile TV, Cellular Video...etc. Is there anyway I can move them without re flash my rom with 3rd party rom?
NO.........
Done [But, Can't Detect Memory Card]
Hello!
There's actually a link in XDA for the W.M 6.5 ROM.
Works perfect with TYTN, although i still have the memory card detection problem.
It says that it's not installed.
About the WM 6.5;
Since this equipment is a little bit slow; i added a few apps so the equipment can run faster (due to the new ROM consumes a little more memmory than the original WM. --> WM5.1).
[Performance Apps]
"Speedboost"
"Advanced Config"
I find those very usefull and you can actually "see" the diference; if you configure them well.
Memory Card NOT Working...
Hello.
By now i think i've read everything about this problem; and still can't access the memory card.
Although i found a method to figure where the problem is.
I opened the camera app; and reinserted the memory card; then a message appears asking if you desire to save the photos in the memory card.
So it means that the SD Slot; the memory card; are working.
Also seems that WM6.5 v2 (from "FCW") detects it somehow... But i can't open access the memory card in anyway.
I tryed these SDBus Updates: (but no success)
- AX3L 3.1.2c SDHC DLL's
- HTC SDHC Settings
- MiniSD HC Patch v2.2
- SDBUS
- SDHC
I'm going to install the v3 version now.
I'll report in a while.
WM 6.5 v3 (FCW)
No use; i can't find out...
Tryed everything and can't get it working.
The v3 works awsome; but didn't fix the problem.
It detects with the "Camera Method" but i can't use/explore the memory card. Also if i go into the "memory" app it says memory card not installed.
Any idead on what i'm doing wrong?
Yeah, me too !
I still cannot access my sd card in tytn at WM6.5 until now...
I wonder if HardSPL v.7 will works...
Greetings;
Awww... I was digging my old threads to make them more usefull, clean and clear.
Yes HARDSPL worked great!
By this time i'm proud to say that my HTC died.
Anyways; if anyone has troubles with SD Card; try to install the ROM; without the SD Card in the device. That shall do the trick. I remember that was my issue. Hope it helps.
Best Regards;

[Q] unlock problem

I know this has been covered loads, but im not exactly a computer genius but ive been at this for 4 hours now and its getting annoying...
ive installed the LEO70 rom on my HD2 installed chevron and Tom XAP installer and dev. tool kit etc following all the guides i could find...
Now when i go to unlock it in chevron it only gives the option to re-lock so i assume its already unlocked (ive tried re-locking it and un-locking again which failed so i re flashed...thank god for hspl and magloader....)
the problem is when i try to install any of the XAP stuff the tom XAP installer says:-
error connection: make sure phone is unlocked
and make sure usb is connected and zune is connected
yes yes and yes.....
im now super confused and wondering why i bothered lol,
im running XP by the way and havent been able to get an activation code yet....
Am i being stupid or have i done something obviously wrong??
again sorry for posting about a well covered subject but i still cannot find an answer to my problem
thanks for any help
Just to add, now the thing keeps resetting itself hard reset style lost all my contacts etc time and date etc ,
Could it be a duff rom causing all this?
well the resetting is a common SD issue, your card isnt compatible
as for XAPs, i dont use that, i use the appliaction deployer with the development tools, however i do know that if i try and do it without admin mode it will not work
course, your still using XP as well which complicates things a bit and again its not something i use any more so i cant be of any more help im affraid.
your SD issue tho is fixable, you could try formatting the card first in a digital camera or you will need to get a new card.
Go for a class 2 or 4 card, ignore any threads saying "this card works" yes it works for them but perhaps not for you, its very much down to luck
Thanks for the advice bud, I've popped the sd card out and it seems to be more stable bow but my main problem is the unlocking, is there any alternative software to unlock? And what developer loading thing do you use if not Tom xap loader ( I'm having trouble finding alternatives to try
Thanks for the help
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Thanks for the advice bud, I've popped the sd card out and it seems to be more stable bow but my main problem is the unlocking, is there any alternative software to unlock? And what developer loading thing do you use if not Tom xap loader ( I'm having trouble finding alternatives to try
Thanks for the help
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Did you get the windows phone developer tools installed?, i think your post said you did, in your start menu you will find a menu for Windows Phone developer Tools, in there you will see an application deployment program
I use that but i have to run it in Admin mode, once its started it allows you to install an XAP to a emulator or a device, select a device (make sure its connected to zune) and locate the XAP.
ive never used that tom installer thing so cant really help you much with that.
as for the SD thing, without an SD it will lag quite a bit, buy what you can afford and dont buy something you wouldnt mind turning in to a tiny wee paper weight, ie dont go folk out for 32GB card when it might not work, 8 seems to be a good size to price card, again stick to a class 2 or 4
oh i forgot to ask, did you use one of the pre-unlocked ROMs out there or did you use the original DFT one?
got the dev tools yes, didnt know where it went though or what it did lol....
i tried it withouth the SD and it still changed the time and stuff all by itself (assuming it crashed in my pocket)
the rom i used is called HD2O_1.04_DFT_LEO70_RELEASE, i dont know how to tell if they were pre unlocked etc (i did look but couldnt see anything) is there any rom you would recommend?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995
try that one, i dont normally suggest modded ROMs the DFT one is fine, but if someone is having issues with unlocking then they are much easier to get working
right i got another ROM from the development section (ill try that one next if i have problems) loaded that up got it all working with the missus laptop (windows 7 instead of xp) got all my contacts on there and even got the activation code through microsoft support chat.... runs smooth etc now i just need a new sd card (its crashed once already and im running an old 2gb card)
the thing that does my head in with the crashing is that it sets the clock to 00:00 and the date to 1980!!! gotta get a new card soon as i use my phone as my alarm to get up for work... doh....
Thanks for the support though bud, much appreciated,
one last thing, when i get the new card i take it i cant just take one out and put the other in as if i boot without my sd card the phone has no settings or contacts etc..... do you have to copy the card info accross or something??
IceBlade2005 said:
right i got another ROM from the development section (ill try that one next if i have problems) loaded that up got it all working with the missus laptop (windows 7 instead of xp) got all my contacts on there and even got the activation code through microsoft support chat.... runs smooth etc now i just need a new sd card (its crashed once already and im running an old 2gb card)
the thing that does my head in with the crashing is that it sets the clock to 00:00 and the date to 1980!!! gotta get a new card soon as i use my phone as my alarm to get up for work... doh....
Thanks for the support though bud, much appreciated,
one last thing, when i get the new card i take it i cant just take one out and put the other in as if i boot without my sd card the phone has no settings or contacts etc..... do you have to copy the card info accross or something??
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technically its possible to use a partitioning program to clone the old SD card to the new one, ive not tried it, i think for the sake of simplicity, i would just reinstall it, you will lose you programs and SMS messages, paid for programs are still paid for, but you will need to locate them of the marketplace again.

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