Downgrading from WM2003 - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

I just tried WM2003 and came back to SER 1.2 without problems - I was told it's not possible without SD card. Am I so lucky?

Funny, I did the very same thing before reading it couldn't / shouldn't be done, makes me think though, what if it had all gone wrong!!!!!!

For those who have tried the WM2003, please advise me whether it's worth my risk (I'm still indecisive) :?

Just tried to upgrade from 1st version of WME2003 to the latest using the upgrade utility, no go. Goes into upgrade mode on PC & PPC, then progress bar screen on PPC goes to white, a few minutes later a error pop-up on PC telling me to reset & run utility again. When I do so same problem. I'm just curious what version on Activesync are you running & on OS on the Desktop
Thanks

erickbryce said:
Just tried to upgrade from 1st version of WME2003 to the latest using the upgrade utility, no go. Goes into upgrade mode on PC & PPC, then progress bar screen on PPC goes to white, a few minutes later a error pop-up on PC telling me to reset & run utility again. When I do so same problem. I'm just curious what version on Activesync are you running & on OS on the Desktop
Thanks
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Hey Erick,
I had the same problem with the 1st version of WM2003. I was unable to do the upgrade with the utility. It would seem like the version 4.00.01 of WM2003 is far more mature in terms of this sort of functionality. For example, ActiveSync would not connect with the device in standby. This is not the case in the new version of 2003 which goes to show that maybe some processes were not running.
Going by what I experienced with the older WM2003, I did not try an RUU flash to test if the newer version worked, but I won't be surprised if it does. I was running ActiveSync 3.7 with WinXP Pro.

Thanks Sheran. So I guess it's SD card time This is an ActiveSync problem not an OS problem? What do you think? SD card should work right?
The reason I'm suggesting ActiveSync is I am unable to use any ROM utility to flash any ROM version now, which I was able to do before i.e. SERv1.1.
I believe I had the previous version of ActiveSync back then & now ActiveSync freaks-out when I try to use the upgrade utility for any ROM.

erickbryce said:
Thanks Sheran. So I guess it's SD card time This is an ActiveSync problem not an OS problem? What do you think? SD card should work right?
The reason I'm suggesting ActiveSync is I am unable to use any ROM utility to flash any ROM version now, which I was able to do before i.e. SERv1.1.
I believe I had the previous version of ActiveSync back then & now ActiveSync freaks-out when I try to use the upgrade utility for any ROM.
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I'm thinking this has more to do with the WM2003 1st version (3.04 build 13083) OS rather than your PC OS or even your ActiveSync. I think the reason some people can use the ROM Upgrade Utility is because they are running the newer version of WM2003 (Ver 4.00.01 build 13100) which seems to work well with ActiveSync.
Unfortunately if you install the older version, until I'm told otherwise, the only way to get out of it is to do an SD Card flash.

Thanks again Sheran I tend to use the SD method, wanted to not have to wait for two write processes. Oh well back to the tried and true method, for now 8)

I was running the newer version (build 13100)
Activesync 3.7, Windows XP Proffesional

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AdaptROM unable to connect

I can't figure out why AdaptROM cannot connect to my XDA. I am running Active Sync 3.7 on Windows XP pro. I have Norton Anti-Virus and several other applications that are always running. I have tried disabling all of them and it didn't make any difference. I am running the new T-Mo WME2003 and the new 6.4 radio stack on my SX-56. It syncs just fine with the PC and has a pairing relaitionship set up.
Neither AdaptRom or any of the .exe upgrade programs, nor Mobipassword can connect to my XDA. Anyone have any ideas why this might be? I have tired using a serial cable and the USB cradle and changing the connection settings. When I originally upgraded it way back when to the ATTWS SX-56 PPCE2002 rom it worked just fine. I hadn't tried it since.
The only thing I can think of is a registry setting being hosed up. I am going to try uninstalling active sync and reinstalling and see if that makes a difference.
Suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I tried removing and reinstalling Ative Sync and it didn't have any effect. Both programs show an Active Sync error cannot connect to device.
It's as if something must have the port tied up.
Same Here
I upgraded to the 4.00.10 rom on my xda but I can't get either adaptrom or Programme A to run so that I can downgrade the device or reflash it.
Any help would be appreciated as I don't have access to an sd card writer.
Re: Same Here
qtzar said:
I upgraded to the 4.00.10 rom on my xda but I can't get either adaptrom or Programme A to run so that I can downgrade the device or reflash it.
Any help would be appreciated as I don't have access to an sd card writer.
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I had the same problem U had before. the best solution is to buy a SDcard reader to do the job.
Read more from here http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1717.
Good luck :wink:
I noticed that the 3.x CE developer environment also cannot connect
to a 2003 device.
XDA developer Itsme said:
I noticed that the 3.x CE developer environment also cannot connect
to a 2003 device.
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Could this mean that some supporting files are missing from the T-Mobile rom? If somebody could get a list of all the files that are different between the 4.00.05 and the 4.00.10 roms then it might point to something...
You can try another hard reset of your xda. That happened to me about a month ago and a hard reset fixed it. Unfortunately I had to create a new relationship etc.. - Jim

upgrading with activesync

hi all ..first you are wonderful for creating this site
thanks for all information
My device is HTC made xda 1 which in Turkey sold by escort computer and they build their cooked rom 3.20.03 eng and radio version 3.25.00 900/1800 freq.
Other than rom ver. it is equal of qtek 1010 .
I want to upgrade rom to win2003 .. when I begin the upgrade by activesync my device automatically soft reset itself and on my pc activesync 3.7 ver. shut itself.
I ve tried 3 times but nothing changed . Can you help me please.
Try it with a lower version of ActiveSync. Like V3.5 or V3.6
Regards
Mark
If your current radio stack works ok I would suggest leaving it alone, if your connection to activesync is likely to fail I suggest you use sd card flashing, much more reliable. If you are upgrading radio stack over activesync and the connection fails, you may end up with a pda but no phone. :shock:
I have tired with activesync 3.5 but also my device soft restarts and connection broken.
How do I use wm2003 by my 128 mb sandik SD card. and install the wm2003 to it with bootloader.??
Please make me understand in detail....
Search the forum for "sd flash rom"
For example the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274&highlight=sd+rom+flash
Regards,
Mark

Himalya WM5

Hey guys,
Newbie here
I have a himalya(XDAII)
Rom Vers. 1.66.00 WWE
Radio 1.10.00
I want 2 know whether i should upgrade to WM5 or not
I mean is it really worth it or not
Can any one help and guide me step by step
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Well the upgrade to WM 5.0 is not so easy and clear (for newbie) as the upgrade for WM2003SE. I mean the additional installations of postinstallfixes,DOCtools,RAMdisk,MMS,etc(all things must be installed separately,while 2003se's ROM is completely prepared). Anyway try the web server made by our King of Himalaya (BL) http://buzzdev.net
it is described there a lot about,or try the discussion board for WM5 especially.
I want to notice you for few recommended steps:
1. what size of RAMdisk do you want to use? (My recommendation is 64/64).
2. flash ROM image patched with current RAMdisk size (Use HimaUpgradeUt_noID)
3. install DOCtools to raise up your Storage space
4. do a hard-reset(for DOCtools)
5. after start-up install PostInstallFixes(shipped in zip with ROM image)
6. install RAMdisk with your preffered size
7. Install MMS
8. beware of installation of old software(some software is not able to run under WM5)
If you will have any question,I can maybe help.
Thanx
wat i really want 2 know is whether upgrading 2 WM5 would be worth the trouble or not.....i mean is the OS really that gr8??
i'm a new user of O2 and dont want 2 fiddle 2 much with my fone coz i might wreck it!!
i'll only do an upgrade if WM5 provides me with some additional utilities otherwise i'm quite happy with WM2003...
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Well there are 3 major problems with WM5:
-I am still unable to establish ActiveSync connection via USB(you need at least ASv4.0)(I am using BT for connection)
-The camera software is really crap and portation from 2003se is not yet done
-Sometimes there's a problem with phone(call answer,establish,end etc.)
Anything else is really good and better than before. The system is running rock-solid without crashes. The biggest + is that this PPC system is also possible to install(and run)Smartphone applications. Don't be afraid of upgrading. Just beware of bootloader upgrade and you can't wreck it. When the flashing procedure will be unsuccessful,just start the upgrade again and it must working. But read all things carefully about upgrade,what is DOCtools,what is RAMdisk etc. that you can purely understand it.
I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.
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It can't be official for Himalaya,coz the hardware isn't designed for WM5. Especially the memory system(128RAM,32Flash). This new OS has a different memory organisation,that uses Flash for all things including installed software while RAM is used only for running system and apps. Therefore you will need this combination at least:128Flash,64RAM. Himalaya basically offer 128RAM for running(too much)and 32MB as a storage(too low).
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chazam said:
I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.
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I didn't notice any problem with buttons. It is also working the AEBPlus utility problemless. The flashback know I also. Once tried Magneto,flashed back to 2003se. And again and again and again...coz a lot of problems I've had with the system. Then I've studying buzzdev.net and step-by-step solved problems. Now I have it totally and it's running great.
Hi
I'm running WM2005 at the minute, but want to go back to WM2003SE, as I'm having problems syncing with hardware at work.
Only problem is, since I changed laptops, I can't get my XDA2 to connect with my PC at all! I've tried installing latest ActiveSync 4 from Microsoft site on my home PC (thinking there are fewer things to stop it syncing on the home PC), so that I can go back to WM2003SE.
However, 2 problems:
- 1) still can't make a connection with the PC - don't even have the Code 28 problem anymore (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/264693/en-us) as the system installs a Network Adaptor device driver called "Windows Mobile-based Device"
- 2) once I do connect, unsure of how to go back to WM2003SE - thinking I could simply run the Xda_II_172181_Final.exe ROM file that I downloaded from O2 UK.
If anyone can shed any light, would be greatly appreciated. I'm new to this, so go easy on me!
Would like to be able to continue running with my Vodafone SIM once this is sorted.
Thanks.
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As I wrote:
>1. I am still unable to connect via USB. I am using Bluetooth. Maybe I need SP2 for WinXP. Don't know. AS4 is using the connection with WM5 little bit differently as 2003se. This connection goes via network connection,not directly. Try this link:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx
>2. For flashing another ROM image:Just use HimaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with current OS image file nk.nbf to flash. These files you can download at the FTP of this server. The nk.nbf filename is the same for all ROM images,therefore be sure of version. Copy these 2 files to same directory,put your Himalaya to bootloader mode and start the exefile.
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TomasNM said:
chazam said:
I've tried it twice and went back to WM2003se twice.
I found it annoying that my camera and record buttons stopped working.
Other than that WM2005 was a nice OS to use.
Pity there isn't a final release for the XDA II.
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I didn't notice any problem with buttons. It is also working the AEBPlus utility problemless. The flashback know I also. Once tried Magneto,flashed back to 2003se. And again and again and again...coz a lot of problems I've had with the system. Then I've studying buzzdev.net and step-by-step solved problems. Now I have it totally and it's running great.
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Hmm...
Perhaps i should have a good read of the buzzdev forums and try again.
Other than that I'm going to be due an Upgrade in fecuary so i might just stick with 2003se and get a WM5 sevice when my upgrade comes. 8)
I'm glad i got the XDA II. I was using a P900 but having a pocket PC phoner seems better for me.
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Well the WM5 system for XDA II will never have an official release. When I was buying my MDA II,I've had two choises(MDA II vs.P900). Some + was for MDA,some for SE. In total that was two equable devices. I bought my Himalaya due the price was a little bit lower. Now the SE-P900 costs in a second hand 200Euro and MDA II 400Euro. MDA II is much better than P900. The hardware and as well the software. Now I know,that it was my good choice to take MDA II instead of P900. Now when it is possible to use UNofficial Magneto is the Himalaya back on the top.

No sound and cant upgrade HELP

have no sound telephone dont work wlan dont work
many stuff dont work
can be that i have wrong upgraded
now i wana upgrade once more the same rom or other rom but
after i start the update active snyce close automatic and the the upgrade window in my pc say connection error 101
i used:
WM6.1 Pro CE OS 5.2.19209 (Build 19209.1.0.2) - TEST
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What operating system are you using?
David389 said:
What operating system are you using?
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you mean my smartphone?
i use MDA III
notebook os is windows xp
First of all you need to make sure that you have the latest version of Active Sync.
then follow one of the Wiki Guides
I am using this Rom and have had no problems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403421
Also what Radio version Etc do you have
my problem is i cant upagrde other because the active sync close automaticily and then in the upgrade window say connection error 101
what is radio version ?
waht i can se in my smartphone is only CE 5.2.19209 (build 19209.1.0.2)
radio version 1.13.00
Uninstall and re-install active sync (V4.5)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/activesync45.mspx
Also make sure that yo have set it to connect.
I had to hard reset
Hold power and push pointer into bottom of device
This site should also have some pointers
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx
Let me know how you get on..
Just thought,
have you added a EXT ROM package ie - one with office and some other programmes
I added one from another user (not ROM Cooker) and had similar problems.
David389 said:
Just thought,
have you added a EXT ROM package ie - one with office and some other programmes
I added one from another user (not ROM Cooker) and had similar problems.
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This is the EXt ROM I tried and had the same issues
#17 10-05-2008, 02:54 PM
adambomb_13
Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 21
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I just made a KILLER! EXT ROM for this
Here it is :
psshutxp
htcflashlite
Touch ImageViewer and TrueFFS_RGU BA
HTCHome.2.1_1005.722
JbedJava_MIDP_0_0_20070822_1_1_WWE
RDM
S2P-0.40-WM5
WU
SN PIE Download Plugin
Slide_2_Unlock_1.00-WM6_Support_Gif_Pic
Pointui.Home.1.5a.Wm5
PCMKeyboardEN-0.14
WU_enable
Arcsoft_MMS_5.0.31.7
NetworkPlugin_1_0_30468_1
AudioManager
BT_BPP_1_6_1_0
Windows_Live_10.6.0034.0800
MMS_enable
http://rapidshare.com/files/113973503/ExtROM.zip.html
dont work
why active synce lose automaticly?
I am not quite sure
do you have a card reader as there is a ROM on here that can be done with an SD card
i got a crad reader but
do any rom exist
and if i connect it normaly with not wana upgrade activ sync dont close automaticly
and i can transfer data but only if i wana upgrade them then active synce close automaticly
I have double checked and I am wrong, you canot upgrade ROM via SD Card.
Try switching your USB socket and updating drivers.
I wil look and see if there are any other solutions
I lie there is a way
1. Woking blue angel (with WM2003)
2. You need mtty
3. SD Card at least 64MB
Open mtty, put sd card in
Type:
Code:
USB>d2s 70020000 1060000 sd
MTTY is some kind of terminal emulation software, and in this case it is used to communicate to serial and/or USB enabled devices. On the HTC devices (including the Universal) it enables you to issue a selection of commands that allow you to read the status of som eof the components, to clear the bootloader flags, to format the internal flashdisk etc etc
mhh what i need to do?
i put mtty in sd card and sd card in mda III or in notebook?
oh man its so easy press recor button close button and reset button
now bootloadermode^^
and now i can upgrade^^
but thx for your help

[Q] iPAQ 610 radio update

Hi... I'm trying to revive my boss's iPAQ 610.
I readed all the information related to bricked 6xx here and here.
With this info, I can boot the phone loading almost any win mobile, but the sim card never works. When I try the Hpruu last update from HP, the process always freezes at 50% in the radio firmware step (I leave the computer all night trying, changing the configure.ini, but nothing happened).
I discovered that you can delete files from HP update, to install just the parts of the update you like: I made a custom radio update just leaving amss.mbn, amsshd.mbn and PARTITION.NBF, deleting all *.nbf files. It still freezes at 50%.
The DNW.exe software works fine, but I don't know how to make a radio update with this method. ¿Any flash.dio file somewhere?
Then I tryied the SDloader method, but don't know how to load the radio update.
Then i found this post, related to firmware radio update and "Download Qualcomm image mode" and I downloaded QPST 2.7, but I don't know how to make the update this way. I can't find more info related.
I got an USB cable, a 2GB Kingston micro SD card, a card reader and a lot of time
If i can fix the phone my reward is the iPAQ self.
All ideas are welcome.
Greetings from Chile
You say latest from HP. You mean 0.89 firmware?
As i remember, you should first upgrade to 0.88, then to 0.89
Try this one from HP link
My phone's fw is v0.81.
I tryied the v0.88 radio update from the English package, using a custom romupdate.dll to avoid language error, and it freezes at 50%. I tryied the Asia-Pacifico update and the same happened.
Thanx for the idea.
disable firewall and antivirus
I dissabled Nod 32 and Windows Firewall, and is still freezes at 50%.
Also tryied normal and advanced USB mode.
Also tryied the v0.89 update directly.
Did you tried to update in Windows XP, not Vista or 7 ?
Windows XP Sp3
Try this one.
If it dont work, have no ideas what else to suggest.
Maybe keyx know something
i got the same problem as you do, when i update it using the hp update tool its stuck at 42%, winxp sp3. tried everything also from reinstalling active sync etc. etc. but it didnt help, what i did, i used a different computer, for some reason it went thru, I was able to successfully update it to 0.89 hope this helps.
sergiorus said:
Try this one.
If it dont work, have no ideas what else to suggest.
Maybe keyx know something
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Exactly the same thing happened. Dies at 50%.
Thanx anyway.
odzk said:
i got the same problem as you do, when i update it using the hp update tool its stuck at 42%, winxp sp3. tried everything also from reinstalling active sync etc. etc. but it didnt help, what i did, i used a different computer, for some reason it went thru, I was able to successfully update it to 0.89 hope this helps.
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I tried at home and 2 PC at office. Maybe the problem is the "Unattended WINXP SP3" version. I'll try the update on other computers.
Thanx.
I can confirm this thing too. I updated my iPAQ 614 with my laptop using Windows 7 a few months ago. Last month I tried again a few times, but no luck (at 50% it dies). When I tried with my desktop computer that has Windows 7 also, it worked. Maybe it has something to do with the USB power or voltage...
Could it be the 2GB microSD card?
Try using smaller capacity, format as FAT-32
Update Radio using microSD
It's posible to upgrade Radio of an ipaq 614c using the microSD similar to ROM update?
The problem I have is my usb port on my 614c is broken.
I'm stuck with FW 0.77
Thanks
Original request: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5409756#post5409756
did you fix the sim problem?
i bricked my hp 614c. so i use .Dnw file system on my win7 64 bit.but when i put my bricked my ppc to my pc wit usb there wasn't any action. when i open my pcc it freezes on HP logo?.what can i do?whats your suggesitons? thanks

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