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We currently have two clues which seem to indicate there may be a problem unlocking Radio 4.20. Specifically, there may be a problem with the %UREG command.
Please note that this is as of yet unconfirmed. However, we would at this point advise anyone upgrading to 4.20 to unlock before upgrading.
It would help if we had an RSU package for Radio 4.20, so we could look at the ROM and see what happened. Was Radio 4.20 part of any of the upgrades out there?
Also: I'd like to hear any and all stories concerning the use of The Manipulator on Radio 4.20.
Hi chaps
Thanks for this post! I was getting worried it was me sat here!
Can I be of assistance in some way with my 4.20 Radio XDA - can I offload and upload you a copy of the RSU info you require???
If so, let me know what to do and I am more than willing to help.
Regards
Rog
Sorry I hadn't logged in. The above post was from me.
Rog
My XDA came with Radio version 4.20.00 and ROM version 3.16.32 ENG
I will have an SD card soon so I can send any files from my XDA to you. As long as you tell me how to do this.
I would like to unlock mine and change the IMEI code on it as well but as i am not an experienced user i am not willing to try it first until it has been confirmed that this definately works with my ROM and Radio versions.
By the way
what is a RSU package??
RSU
I have the RSU for 4.20 if you would like it.
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what is a RSU package??
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RSU is the Radio Stack Utility.....
The "Programm" that is needed for the Phone Functions.
Regards
Stefan
The same problem seems to exist once the QTEK ROM/Radio upgrades have been installed on an XDA. The XDA is working perfectly, but XDA-Manipulator isn't accessing anything...it just reports errors.
can you still use hyperterminal to access the XDA and find the unlock code?
NO, hyperterminal and dualser command doesn't work.
We await progress! - Have the developers got hold of Radio 4.20 to play with yet I wonder??
Rog
Is there anyway to take the BIOS back to an earlier version?
Not unless you can get the existing commands to work.
Bit of a chicken and egg situation here! Without dualser UREG function you cant do anything. Therefore you cant get back to an earlier version either!
Rog
I have a couple of these phones with this version (4.20) on them, tried them all with Manipulator 1.02 but all wouldnt work, im willing to "test" any new methods of unlocking them, if anyone has any ideas let me know, i'll be glad to help
We have a 4.20 RSU, and thus we have the image.
We've held off looking at 4.20 specifically, and currently some precious spare time is being spent on looking at the way the RSU upgrade process works. This would, among other things, give anyone the ability to unlock without needing a serial cable. We've come a long way, but some work is still in progress. And people have less time than they'd like to have, and stuff.
You're all due a magnificent set of new tools (coming soon!), and some further explanations and documentation regarding the inner workings of the Radio Interface Layer (RIL), and more.
Stay tuned...
Talk about whetting the appetite!
We await with eager anticipation and an offer of help if you need it.
Rog
Is there any idea of release date to support the unlocking of the 4.20 Radio
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Is there any idea of release date to support the unlocking of the 4.20 Radio
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Today...
Hello guys, can this Pocket PC from cingular be unlocked? I just got it.
I am not sure if i have all the tools and know how to unlock this fone so i will continue to read & wait for help. Thanks
Dishxpert
search this board for lokwiz and take it from there, the search function works, please use it.
I'm in the same boat as him. I've been thinking of CID unlocking my phone for awhile. I have the 2.25 spl/ipl as well with a 2.25.11 rom. And as far as i can tell from reading threads, lokiwiz does not cid unlock this rom.
edit: I have tried looking alot for a way to CID unlock my phone. I get alot of conflicting and confusing information. Some people say to just downgrade my rom to one wiht a 1.xx spl/ipl. Others tell me that that is impossible to do in the first place. I've tried looking and i cant find any rom that has a 1.xx spl/ipl that would even install on my CID locked wizard. If this is indeed the way i and the thread starter are supposed to do it, then can you point me in the direction of a downgraded rom that will work with a CID locked cingular phone? I would be very gratefull.
taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading
I did read from a few sites and am not new to forums. The instructions i saw said there is nothing out for I.P 2.21 and above unless u pay and use JAFWM.
Shogun, prob as a senior member u can shed some light as more ? will be asked in days to come or make a sticky with the truth.
BTW, i do have lokiwiz2o and have used it to unlock MDAIII but not sure what works on mine & dont want to cause it to crash. Speak if u have the 'right' truth.
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taking the time to read some threads you would find that downgrading to a 1.xx rom and then doing the cid unlock and sim unlock would fix your problem... some people that say this dont work may be referring to a G4 wizard, one who's IPL/SPL is 2.xx.0001. And they are right, this does not work on a G4, only the G3, which if you are lacking the .0001 at the end of your IPL/SPL then you have a G3... all of this info can be found from searching and reading
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please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)
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please re-read my above post, it gives you instructions.. what i forgot to mention though was after you donwgrade to do the unlock, you will need to upgrade to an official rom that will have the updated bootloaders(IPL/SPL) before you can flash someone's cooked rom (and i only say that cause not all of us chefs include the updated IPL/SPL's so that someone with a G4 doesnt brick their phone)
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I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.
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I know i have a G3 device. Are you saying that all i have to do is downgrade to a 1.xx ipl/spl rom. Run lokiwiz 2b. And then i can go directly to a cooked rom because i do not have a g4 device? Speciffically i would like to troy out molskie's 30mb free rom. And possibly yours as well.
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well yes kinda, i added a part below that, it said you may want to flash an official rom since most cooked roms dont include the updated IPL/SPL..
Hi Guys...im no expert, and im kinda a noob at this. But this is what I did with my Cingular 8125. I have a G3 phone, SIM unlocked onle IPL/SPL 2.26. I've updated it with a Cingular standard ROM. I realized my phone was NOT CID unlocked, so I decided to try this step for step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=wizard+backup the important part i believe is downgrading the ROM, also, make sure you unzip the lokizwiz file in the ROOT of the C:\ drive, then open a command prompt and run it from there (assuming your running Windows). After that, I upgraded with a Tmobile Standard ROM to upgrade the IPL and SPL back to 2.26, then I installed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700&highlight=cingular+8125 and it worked like a charm. Thats just from my personal experience, as I said im just a noob and not an expert. I hope that helps in some way.
My hats off to these people that create these custom ROM, THESE GUYS ARE GOOD ! ! !
Thanks to all the custom ROM makers out there.
Hi Folks
I was wondering if someone know if the IMEI Unlocking services offered in many websites really work:
For example: http://www.gsmphonesource.com/reunbyimforc.html
It make the kind of unlocking like the unlocking software posted on this forum?
Thanks to all!!
Sergio
We have a FREE SIM unlocker which does the same, and more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073
Ours keeps SuperCID forever, theirs not
Hi Pof
I have seen your great job. Thanks for that!
since I am just starting on this XDA world I dont want to mess with rom upgrading and stuff. So I felt that just entering an unlock code is 'safer' for now, but I wanted to know if that remote IMEI solution really works for using the phone with other SIM cards
Thanks!!!
Yes, it works. It has the same effect on the phone, but I really encourage you to try my solution instead, it's not that hard, but the warnings are there for you to be cautious
The IMEI is not used at all for unlocking, it's just to make sure you don't buy an unlocker from them and use it in two different devices: if you want to unlock two devices you have to pay twice
If you want to technically understand what their unlocker does, and what does mine, have a look at this post (comments #54 to #57):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280819&p=1046444
My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.
I used pof's method and had my phone up and running in less than an hour and it was FREE!
VideoFX
Call Cingular tell then u r going to europe
Call Cingular tell them you are going out of conutry and they will send you unlock caode for free in 5 days.
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My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.
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That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...
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That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...
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So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06
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So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06
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It's easy. READ, READ some more, then READ till you puke. Then, follow the directions TO THE LETTER, and you'll be just fine. Nothing else to do. THEN, once it's unlocked, you'll want to flash a normal radio and a new OS.
As a newbie, I suggest you pay close attention to POF and Legolas; this stuff is EASY, but only because I've read the WIKI, lots of threads, then re-read the WIKI 2 or 3 more times.....then followed the instructions to the letter. And then go back to the WIKI just to stay sharp.
Reading the threads will give you an idea of just how many people do stupid things like NOT reading the WIKI, try flashing a new ROM or radio on a whim, follow only the directions they feel like, and turn a wonderful PDA/Phone into a useless brick. I've been around here only about 2 months but am now flashing ROM's on my CID/SIM Unlocked Cingular 8525 at will and having a ball. Will be joining the ROM Flasher's 12-step program soon.
So, read, pay attention, follow the instructions fully, read some more and read the threads so you can appreciate what happens when someone doesn't read, follow the instructions fully, etc.
Why Pay????
There's no sense in paying when POF's provided a great unlocking program here that's easy to use and works GREAT!!! This IS a no brainer.....
If you don't plan on going out of the country and wanting to change cell phone service provider, what is the benifit if unlocking the phone. I have been flashing my phone to different ROM's since the day I've had it.
I don't really see the added benifit of unlocking the phone...but then again I am a newb at this stuff.
If you have no plans on changing SIM cards, i.e. changing providers or travelling out of the country where you might want to use a local SIM to save $$, there's no need to SIM unlock your phone. If your phone is CID unlocked, then you are able to flash cooked ROMs' and ROMs' belonging to other carriers, i.e. flash a T-Mobile ROM to a Cingular phone. Unlocking also gives you access to the Extended ROM and several MB of storage space not otherwise avail to unlocked phones
Question, what difference if any is there between me getting the Unlock Code from ATT (just did it for some old V551's of mine with an email to them) and this Unlock tool of Pof's? I do plan to unlock it soon, planned on going the ATT route because I know it works. If your tool does something over and above I'd like to know.
Thank you!
question?
i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......
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i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......
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at&t would provide you with the unlock code for free. the worst of course is your phone turning into a brick, but if you are smart enough to follow instructions it will be fine.
and one more thing........which device are you getting......8525 tilt????? if its the 8925/tilt you are in the wrong subforum, you should be looking at the kaiser section. the 8525 does belong here
ok so i just got sent an att 8525. I am planning on unlocking this phone.
I havent been on these boards in forever but has anything changed? Is there anything in these rebranded att phones that may not let me unlock? is there a newer tutorial?
thanks guys
Hi,
I just wanted to share that I unlocked my 8525 with HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a on Vista. It went through with not one issue or hiccup.
Thanks
Greg
Hey if you install say BlackMajic on your phone. Is it possible to revert back to the OEM bios and OS so you can send the phone back to the phone company.
Sure. Just find it on htc's or your provider's site.
If you cid unlocked you cant reverse that however.
MrVanx has downgrade guides (www.mrvanx.org) to make it easier. While I would not take actual responsibitliy for this, I can tell you that I have personally sent a SuperCID and SIM Unlocked device in with the original original ROM, Radio and IPL/SPL combo restored, and they did not say a word - never noticed. That said, that may be a bit of a gamble - I do not know their official policies or (more imporantly) their instructions to the techs.
Hey guys thanx alot for the info much appreciated
don't know if anyone noticed this or if i missed the post or what (i searched!) but heres what i think is a cidunlock from pdaviet.
HERALD-USPL-Beta3by POF
PS i'm still not even sure what a cid unlock is if anyone wants to fill me in.
Yes, technically it IS a cid-unlock.
However, it's still in beta and unless you're technoproficient, you probably shouldn't install.
Now to answer your question.
There are two kinds of locks :SIM and CID
Sim locks keep you locked to a certain network
CID locks prevent you from flashing a different rom
Both can be circumvented, but that takes time and hard work.
For heralds and wings, you can always use aserg's method for flashing, which is brilliantly simple, but you have to have an RUU to do it correctly.
The problem with this is that some Herald models *cough*XDA terra*cough* don't have an RUU, Heralds, like ALL ppcs, are CID-locked to that particular redistributor's RUU. This is where CID-unlocking comes in. If you can CID unlock, you can flash any rom you need, including other companies RUU.
Poor XDA terra people.
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hi there!
i would like to know if was possible to flash this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366845) in my Herald with CID locked..
or,
if is not possible, i would like to know if there are some free way to make a CID unlock to my herald?
my herald have now the portuguese ROM (4.17.410.2 PTG and RADIO 02.94.90), that i had updated from wm5 Oficcial ROM.
thanks for your atenction, and i'm sorry for my bad english.. :S but it's not my native language and i don't practise a lot.. :S
Thanks,
Eagler
does your service provider provide a wm6 upgrade for you phone? If so, it is best to flash it first.
Once you have done so, check to see if your SPL is greater than 4. you can do so by entering bootloader by soft resetting and holding the camera key.
If it is indeed above 4, you have two solutions for a CID unlock.
One choice is USPL, which temporarily CID unlocks your phone.
The other is HardSPL, which permanentl CID unlocks your phone. Relocking it from HardSPL (if you have to send it in for service, for example) can be difficult.
In the future, please search before posting and do not resurrect threads this old. When this thread was first replied to, aserg's way was still the primary technique for flashing (just to give you an idea of how old this is)