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Official UK upgrade is here.
Rom 3.14.13
Radio 4.16
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda/romupgrade/0,,170,00.html
very dissapointed really
No promised MMS, no signal improvements, and although I have yet to install, it looks like there is no fix to the following problems either
1 - SMS name fix, althought the patch on this site does that so feck em!
2 - Switching to phone app after sending sms AFTER a call has been made/received
3 - O2 CS in general, look at all the other international releases, yet O2 are still waaay behind.
4 - Action update is beyond a joke!
Kevin
What? 3.14.13? .... I am expecting a new rom with MMS fuction...
Is it just me or are people not bothering to read the O2 site properly.
They didn't actually promise the MMS update in March. This is due "later in in the year", along with modem capabilities and other stuff.
MMS or sms name fix is not built into any ROM available anywhere. I know somebody who works for O2 and has the next ROM/Radio being tested and apparently this doesn't have this either.
I agree, lets kick their ass on how long it's taken to release this, but lets get our facts straight first.
Lets be realistic. A lot of the stuff we want is not going to be available until PPC 2003, so we will all have to buy new devices by then.
absolute disgust !!!
this is a shambles I wonder how this company continues to exist ?
how can they promise items in an upgrade then basically take 4 months longer than anyone else to put out this "upgrade".
Seems to me like they have the attitude "we have your money so [email protected] you"
I WILL NEVER purchase another XDA from o2.
the idea was fantastic the way they treat people is an absolute disgrace.
could you imagine the rebellion there would be if you bought a telly that kept on losing the channels you had programed when it felt like it.
this was a total waste of money on my behalf.
I will go back to my ipaq and nokia combination.
does anyone want to buy a pretty ppc with a half functioning toy phone built in.
:twisted: :x
THIS IS CRAP!
radio 4.16 still has the unable to re-aquire signal unless plugged into the cradle.
****e ****e ****e I gave O2 the benefit of the doubt for tha last 6 months with the promise that this radio version would fix this problem but it does not. I repeat NOT !
now my blood is boiling time to start a campaign.
The problem with not reaquiring the signal is SIM card related. Get a new SIM card and the problem will disappear.
Atleast this is what I found.
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.
Unbelieveable said:
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !
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Now, now, settle down or there'll be tears before bedtime. It is ****e though isn't it? How many people do you think O2 have got working on software? Could it be as many as one? Do you think he(she) works full time, maybe he has a day job as a plumber, very busy time of year this! The nokia/ipaq option is looking good.
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I could not agree more with your comments.
Look i agree O2 has fail on many level but their failure in understanding what we need shouldnt reflect on us... cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
:wink:
Peace...
Yeah!
Peace, brothers and sisters.
cool down and lets focus on how to get o2 to make the necassary changes
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I did. See this new topic...
Being in the UK never helps
Why is it that we in the UK have some of the best engineers in the world. But we can't get a simple thing like a bleedin phone to work!
People come from all over the world to get education in the UK. We are a great nation. So O2 UK get yer arse into gear FFS ! ! !
~MArtin
Hi,.
I'm the first Guest who replied about it being the SIM card. I had the problem and I found that my friends O2 SIM fixed the problem. I ordered a new SIM card and it did the trick. If anyone else has the problem and their friends "NEW" SIM card don't fix it, then I too would suggest that it is your XDA that is at fault.
O2 say that it is a known bug which is true - but a bug that can be fixed with a new SIM.
Trust me or not, I was only trying to fix your problem.
@amarko 5
i have problem that may be same as you reported. phone frozen and does not load the radio on a soft reset ? impossibe to use, turn off radio etc. didn't think the power was low to be exactly the same as your problem tried putting back in cradle and on usb hot sync cable - nothing was running radio 408 and 3.14.13. only possible was a full hard reset reset which cured and reloaded radio. have now upgraded to radio 416 as per new o2 update. is this ongoing problem from your knowledge?? will an upgrade to 3.15.xx eng (dutch o2 i think ??) fix it as mentioned in earlier posts??
The Problem still existed after the upgrade (well several re upgrades as well)
I appreciated Guests suggestion of sim card but I have tried 3 simms now 2 of which are just a few weeks old.
It didn't solve my issues.
At present O2 support seem to admit they knew about it and have agreed to take my XDA back to fix (I really hope they do)
so at present i am without my XDA as it's in the post back to O2.
I really didn't want to mess with any unofficial upgrades as you suggest as it may have invalidated warranty.
I may have been a bit slow in getting this sorted but at first O2 just denied a problem it is only recently they seem to acknowledge it.
BTW this BUG seems to affect a lot of people of you read the newsgroups on O2 source newsgroups.
I hope you have better luck with the upgrade if not then i suggest a visit to an O2 shop or call the support line to return it.
dont suffer like i did.
I also hope they compensate me for the useless functionallity of the sp called phone but i have my doubts maybe i will have to consult trading standards or watchdog :wink:
time will tell and i will keep you informed of progress.
Is there some kind of matrix available showing which country is at what ROM/Radio thing? All very confusing for amateurs like me.
Also, would it not be more productive for HTC to do the updating, make it a universal download, but with localised add-ons available
If I'm hopelessly out of my depth here, throw me a lifebelt...
soft reset
Hi,
My xda have the same problem but after a few
soft reset or adjusting the power settings
it now works fine.
same problem
amarko5 said:
Unbelieveable said:
amarko5,
So you have been waiting 6 months for an upgrade to fix your xda not picking up a signal unless in a cradle? And it never occured to you that you have a broken xda or sim?
Well done on winning the completely stupid 2003 award. How do you not fall over more often?????
Unbelieveable.
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Unbelievable you are so wrong
I have contacted o2 on many occasions and it is a "KNOWN BUG" so keep your simple minded comments to yourself.
i have tried 3 sim cards in the phone and all are the same.
I have 2 friends who suffer tha same complaint and there are also many people reporting the same problem on the official source o2 website.
it occurs if the phone loses signal for any extended period of time and if the battery is less than 3/4 charged.
when dropped back in cradle the extra power seems to kick it back up.
if signal is not lost ie local in good area then the phone functions normally
even with low power.
get your facts straight before making childish comments.
P.S. i only ever fall over when i trip over idiots like YOU !
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I had exactly the same problem. They suggested that i get a new sim card because the sim is 2 years old but i couldnt be arsed with that. i phoned XDA fault centre and they said i could send it back for repair. 3 days later, i got it back, and it was working normally again, with a couple of hickups.
Have been struggling with this for most of the week, as it seems HTC have changed the layout for the reg and access to the extended rom on the device. After having a chat with a friend in o2, who confirmed this, it transpires that HTC threw a wobbly about MTTY getting out onto the net as it was supposed to be for clients only. The outcome of this is that they have written a new piece of software which when coupled with a special xda allows clients to design there own exteneded rom.
Hmmmm, just made my job harder :lol: .
Keep the good work up guys, this is a great site
Well good luck, and please dont give up........
I been hacking my XDA IIi for days to unlock the ext rom and no luck yet. Love the phone though!!! 5 million times better then the XDA IIs which was a piece of crap!!!
Mike
I need to break my MDA ASAP. Anyone know an easy way to make it non-functional besides putting it in the microwave?
(I don't want it to be able to turn on or display anything on the screen).
I know i could just unplug it during a rom upgrade... but then i'd just get the multi-color boot.... i don't want it to boot at all =).
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Okay why the f*** would you wanna break a MDA... Just give it to me...
Either way... Try putting in a herms on wizard or vise versa... that would do the trick
that's a good idea i'll try that
.... i'm breaking it so i can get a new phone =)
Just flash a G4 IPL/SPL if you have a G3 or vice versa, that'll brick it for sure!
Soak that biatch in a salt-water solution and wait for it to dry. It will never start again. The salt shorts out the microscopic traces and the planes on multilayer boards.
The only downside is that it will be glaringly obvious to any technician opening the case that it was destroyed in water.
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Soak that biatch in a salt-water solution and wait for it to dry. It will never start again. The salt shorts out the microscopic traces and the planes on multilayer boards.
The only downside is that it will be glaringly obvious to any technician opening the case that it was destroyed in water.
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LOL, that's a good one.
I tried to write the G4 ROM & the Hermes ROM to the MDA but both installer packages wouldn't let me.
I ended up reverting to the Base Tmobile 226 ROM and unplugged the USB cord in the middle of the install..... that bricked it (just hangs at the Red/Green/Blue startup screen).... which i guess.. is good enough
That still is not broken, ill buy it
over clock the processor i had a sprint ppc and bricked it that way
WHY in Hell's fire would you want to break a really good device for something new?? My MDA is broken and I don't want another device, I want my MDA. If you truly feel you must kill the device, then damage your USB port. Without a working USB, you cannot charge your device, sync your device, etc...I know. My USB is loose, and I am doctoring it just long enough until I can buy another MDA. Please, just don't let me know when the deed is done. I think you are evil! (A moment of silence please for the loss of yet another device)
Man just discharge the battery if you want to show to your dad 'hey dad, see, its dead?' or do something similar. Then sell it away. If you sell it on a cheap price, somebody out there who dreams of buying a Wizard but can't buy just because he can't pay will be so happy to buy at a super-cheap cost from you. Breaking is very... obsolete as well as stupid idea. There are so many things you can do on a wizard which you don't need. You can test programs on it before running on your new device to see if they aren't going to kill it (even if they do, you'll save your new one). So many experiments can be done on a working device for which you don't care.
Last but not least, I'm willing to buy it from you. Seriously.
I think his objective is to get a new device for free from T-Mobile and I bet he has a warranty.
The MDA is discontinued, so my guess is he's wanting to commit fraud and purposely break the MDA so T-Mobile will give him a shiny new Wing.
Just a hunch though...
GnatGoSplat said:
I think his objective is to get a new device for free from T-Mobile and I bet he has a warranty.
The MDA is discontinued, so my guess is he's wanting to commit fraud and purposely break the MDA so T-Mobile will give him a shiny new Wing.
Just a hunch though...
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That was my thought, and I seriously have to ask...WHY????? The Wing sucks! The Kaiser isn't out...
Why does the Wing suck? Hardware-wise, isn't it basically a slimmer MDA? I really dig the spring-loaded keyboard on the newer phones.
I used my sister's for a week, and it actually seemed to be less responsive and much buggier than my Wizard. A little slimmer isn't enough to make me change. And the Wizard is so tried and true, with so many customization abilities, I'll stick with reliable, even if it is a little older and a bit chubbier.
so u wanna break it aigh i got the perfect thing for you a stick of tnt that should do the trick or if u don´t wanna blow that sucker up u can always place it on the asphalt and take your dads car and drive over or u can just take it to pieces and short circuit that should to the job or i got a another idea take some acid and soak it a little bit but the best thing to do is give it to me i would like to destroy it my self
PREVIOUSLY ON MDA BREAK...
...the company [aka ssstonebraker] are out to break the MDA, GnatGoSplat intervenes to flash the MDA with a G4 IPL/SPL and vice versa, which will leave the MDA just unconscious. but akashastrega plans to pull the plug on USB port, afghanistan (just a name) crosses over to place the MDA on asphalt and driver over it. rellik232's and akashastrega was a while ago busy gaining evidence on why the company are out to break the MDA, iligitrick jumps in to overclock the situation. will the company finally achieve its goal, will the others win over the company....we'll soon find out...as Krix is the MDA's only hope to buy it over....in this episode
"damn, i m gonna join the WGA strike. this show aint gettin me gud money no more"
I just wanted to post a big Thank You to everyone who helps on here.
Thanks to much searching and some patient people answering my questions I happily flashed my rom and was running about merrily with my Vario II running WM6.1 and it was ace.
... Till some Bar Steward stole it out of the glove box of my mates car
I am not covered under my own insurance and my mate is having problems claiming through his own... so i've stumped up my own cash and gone for the O2 XDA Serra... so i'm off to swot up on what i can do to that
Wish me luck.
And Thanks again for all the help
Wow dude, that sucks!
I know under certain policies, as long as you had the phone out of sight, they'll cover it, even moreso if the glove box was locked!
Sorry, deal with Mobile Phone claims all day everyday!
Hi everyone
First I would like to thank the people who are here that make these awesome developments, I enjoyed them until today when I was trying to find a better
radio rom. I am/was using tytung's NexusHD2 NAND. I was going threw the radio roms listed in one of the threads and tried "Leo_RADIO_15.29.50.07U_2.06.50.04"
I had to get up for a second and when i returned about 5 min. later the phone was unresponsive. When I try to turn it on i can feel the vibrator motor spin for a split second and noda...No light with the wall charger pluged in or USB.
If anyone has an idea to what I did or what can be done I would be ever so grateful. This is my first smart phone and was so happy to have android running on it. I NEED it back. I've only had it for about a week and am lost with out it already.
I want to thank everyone in advance willing to give me some help!
Thanks from The NooB
Chris
I was reading some more and I'm sure its bricked but the PC does see it when its plugged into the USB...but it doesn't have drivers for it and it didn't have drivers for it before this problem.
I guess the problem is I shouldn't have loaded a TMOUS rom?
I thought It would be "OK" as long as it was a ".50" and not a ".51"
Such a sad day...first my little Leopard gecko broke her leg and then flying ants invade my house and go into my saltwater aquarium and mess that all up and now my new favorite toy is a fishing weight or new target.......I'm afraid to go outside to even go to McD's cause i'm sure i'll die somehow!?!?!?!
Someone please tell me there's hope.
I should have just traded it in for the G2X when I was up the mall today...
But I thought this Nexus NAND was the best thing in the world only problem with this phone was that I had no reception in my house.
Which is why I was messing w/ the radio in the first place...
If anyone figures anything out I'll be in the corner crying..
Thanks again fellas..
If you boot up with the volume down button held down, does it go into bootloader (tri-color screen, not MAGLDR)?
And does your pc have ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center installed on it?
If you can get into bootloader, there is still hope...
Hey Huggs
Thanks for the the reply, No There is no bootloader screen, No nothing just a little blip from the vibrator motor for a tenth of a sec. when I try to just turn the power on, If I try to hold the Vol. key and power at the same time it wont do anything.
I did notice when I plug it into USB it try's to install drivers for a "QUALCOMM CDMA DEVICE" and after about 10min it starts to get warm near the bottom of the battery. I have windows vista so Windows Mobile Device is installed.
I left it go for about 4 hrs from 4am to am and then tried the battery again and again nothing, I'm pretty sure there's nothing I could do from USB.
Does anyone know if any JTAG will work or does it have to be the one I see people using, not the cheap Flea-BAY ones for $50?
also when using a JTAG do you have to have a special file or just the stock rom?
Or is there someone on here offering this service?
The phone never had reception in the house so I should be looking for other methods but this thing is like brand new and I would like to see it come alive.
THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!
Sorry dude but you have 100% bricked your phone. You have no excuse other then lazyness as this is a very well documented fact and warnings against flashing and incorrect radio.
If you had taken time to read things properly you wouldn't have made this mistake.
Your only option now is to send it away for JTAG repair so they can replace your bootloader.
I wouldn't say its because of laziness. I looked up that rom and found a thread where people were using it. It was a ".50" and not ".51" rom and that was all I knew that was uncompilable.
Instead of starting the name calling or your this and that, How about some constructive criticism and say well "that particular rom isn't compatible because of"
I stayed up for 3 days strait and been reading for over a week trying to learn about flashing and what not. could I have spent more time reading YES but I flashed roms about a 2 dozen times and everything was OK. Like I said I used it because of the fact it was a ".50" and thought it was safe to use and the fact I seen the tread that it came from HTC and was safe to use. Guess not!
Thanks for your .02cents theatheist though.
Can someone tell me which JTAG box I have to use?
or what does the box have to support? I see others using the "RIFF BOX"
but 150 for a box is alot for one time use. does the box just have to support an arm7?
Again Thank you for taking the time to read this
Hope every ones have a nice holiday weekend
Can someone tell me why this particular radio rom bricked this phone?
and if anyone could tell me which JTAG box I would have to use?
would a cheap one from the BAY work?
what does the JTAG box have to support?
I am reading but I don't understand some of it.
Thank you for your time and reading this.
As soon as i finish posting this I will send you a PM with a link to someone that offers a JTAG service for $50 USD and lives in US. He is very good too, I would not recommend him if he was not very experienced with JTAGing HD2s.
I do not know why that Radio version brickedc your HD2 cause from what I know only the 2.04.50.xx or the 2.05.50.xx radio versions or the only radio versions with 50s that will brick a TMOUS. Looks like I might have to add 2.06,50,xx radio versions to that list. The reason why these radios with 50swill brick a TMOUS is because these radio versions were used in the Test TOM/Test T-Mobile HD2s which were actually regular HD2s and not the TMOUS that is out now with the extra ROM and RAM. There for these radios were not designed to run on the TMOUS.
Oh and you are correct about the %1 radio versions to0, they were all made for the regular HD2s also.
Thank you so much for your time Sir.
and thanks for the explanation, I would really like to try and JTAG it myself
do you know if any of the cheap JTAG boxes on ebay that support the ARM7 would work? I will shoot that guy a PM.
I hope you have a Safe Holiday weekend!
SeaWeed89 said:
Thank you so much for your time Sir.
and thanks for the explanation, I would really like to try and JTAG it myself
do you know if any of the cheap JTAG boxes on ebay that support the ARM7 would work? I will shoot that guy a PM.
I hope you have a Safe Holiday weekend!
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To be honest i do not know if the "cheap boxes" you refer to will work or not. Maybe a link to the exact box you are referring to would help.
I do know this if you want to try it yourself that is cool, but be warned you have to have a small torques head srew driver, a HTC HD2 JTAG, a Riffbox with proper connection cables, a Omnei Repair Tool (ORT), the software to use the Riffbox, and it is best if you have a small power supply for the mainboard but you can use the power from the HD2 battery. Plus you have to completely remove the mainboard of your HD2 to JTAG it, which means you pretty much have to totally disassemble the HD2.
So not only is JTAGing a HD2 just for yourself expensive, but you need to have some skill to do it as well.
PM the guy I referred you to is a very good idea, best of luck with however you decide to JTAG your HD2.
Thanks for the response...Your very helpful.
I didn't know If links were permitted.? Here's the link's
1&2 are the same but different prices, They both support ARM7 architecture Which I thought the QSD8250 was?
#1. http://cgi.ebay.com/JLINK-J-LINK-V8...155?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aab620ae3
#2 http://cgi.ebay.com/JLINK-J-LINK-V8...551?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b1f2c6e7
There is a RIFF for $150 that I found but I cant really pull that off ATM.
There is others that support the ARM also. I've also found a no-solder connecter for about 15 bucks but I don't know if the pin-out is the same on the ribbon cable as the ORT-JTAG box(company that has the connecter). I'm sure I could change it around If i could find a schematic for the both of them(connecter and box)
I do have the tools to dismantle this and power station(I also mess with the Arduino platform and circuit building when I have time and recently have just dismantled my HTC TP2 for craps and giggles and have fixed multiple IPOD touches) I have been also ripping everything apart that had a battery/wire connected to it since I could remember. And try to get it back together before my old man would come home and would find his stereo taken apart...
The only thing that has me is the programming part itself like the actual file.
I don't know if it's something special for the box or just the stock rom?
I have watched some youtube on it but nothing really helpful.
I'm thinking I could do it and maybe help some others if I could nail it and do some more reading. My brothers into IT(servers) and a HTC nightly rommer so I was hoping he could help he and I was really hoping for some help from you good fellas here.
I want to thank you for the PM (very helpful) and the reply.
I will probably end up sending it to him because it's about the same price and I don't have funds for a new phone if I toast it, and hes a very nice guy. I just love messing with stuff.
Have a good one.
Chris
To be honest I do not know if the JTAG Emulators your linked would work or not. It looks as though it might could but I can not saw proof positive it would work.
Ii seems like you might would be able to do it yourself. You have a lot of the needed tools. I think the software for the Riff Box comes with the Riff Box but not sure as I have never JTAGed a device. The software allows you to reload or as the program calls it "res-erect "the SPL, you see JTAG restores the bootloader and that is it. Then you just flash a ROM of your choice to the HD2 and you are good to go. But I do recommend you flash a stock Windows Mobile ROM just for precautionary purposes.
Yes you want the no solder JTAG that makes it a lot easier as far as the set up process.