I had some questions about the nexus 10 I ordered mine from play store shouls be getting here soon after I readed all these problems im ready thinking its gonna be bad like some people say . How do getting replacements work . Do they send me one first then I send messed up one back . After the 15 day return period could you still get replacements if like the screen leeks bad . ???????
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes i would buy it again ...
but with more care about the possible defect . test the product very good before decide to keep it or not . dont trust google and samsung
- test the bleeding ( i have alot 4 points )
- test the battery . you should get at least 6 hour of screen minimum minimum on surfing the net . ( i get 5 )
- test the hdmi out ( i got it deffective from the box )
At least this are my problems
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Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes I love mine. It is extremely smooth with custom ROMs and kernels. We have lots of great options from developers, battery life is exceptional, and the screen looks amazing watching an HD movie or TV show. I suppose if I had ever had problems with the tablet then I may feel differently, but I have yet to have any issues whatsoever. My one regret is that I did not purchase a 32GB version. If I could go back I would have waited another week to buy and paid the extra $100 for double storage space. I have a lot of games installed and my tablet is 90% full on space at all times and I wish I could install more.
I also have the note 10.1 which one you think is better .
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I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
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I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
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When do you notice the light bleeding?
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My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
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My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
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Will do
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Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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I love my N10. But this is my second one, I had to RMA my first one. I was pretty vocal about the problems I was having, because of this:
+Its true that there is a lot of problem threads about this device. Partially this is from Android 4.2.1 not playing well with the N10, partially its because there are some defective N10 devices out there. I know because I had one! When you, the end user, has a general problem and then you go online to try and see if there is a fix, you find these threads, and everyone chimes in together it starts to get intense. Some of the people, as another user said, may never actually be satisfied. But others are reporting real problems, trying to find a fix. Im a lot more OCD than most people I meet, so I just assumed that was what was going on. I assumed I was just being picky, and that others were just being okay with it. But now, after using a different N10, I can say there was a guaranteed problem with my first unit.
So, just like the people that say "bad" need to be taken with a grain of salt, so do the people that say "good". I can say this: there are both good and bad N10s out there, and one thing EVERY new N10 owner needs to do is QUICKLY determine if you have a good or a bad one so that you can remedy the situation ASAP if you have a bad one.
~bm
There's two things I'm not a big fan of on the Nexus 10:
- Thermal throttling (this shouldn't even be an issue under normal circumstances, but the situation is far better than it was around launch)
- Available memory (we only have access to 1.2GB of RAM, not anywhere near the advertised 2GB)
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Nope. I rooted it as soon as I got my hands on it. My fave: Rasbeanjelly + Trinity..
Edit: Thermal throttling is a common problem across all Nexus devices. But I don't consider it a big problem because I'm underclocked.
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Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.
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Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.
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Walmart you have 15days. Don't call google if its within 15 days just take it back to Walmart. After 15 days you would contact Samsung for a repair. You have one year warranty.
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IMHO the light bleed fuss is a non-issue....at least for me. I honestly do not notice it at all. Not saying it is 100% not there....it just has ZERO negative impact.
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IMHO the light bleed fuss is a non-issue....at least for me. I honestly do not notice it at all. Not saying it is 100% not there....it just has ZERO negative impact.
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Same here. I bought my tablet to use & enjoy which I do constantly. I looked for it only because some people go nutz about it & wanted to see what the fuss was about. I can't see the big deal. On normal use I've never seen it or worried about it. It's a total non-issue for me also & as stormricker stated: ZERO negative impact.
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Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.
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I'm not 100% certain, but I believe because you purchased it at Walmart a return through Google is not an option (for my 2 RMAs I was asked if I purchased my tablet through Google Play when I called them). As mentioned above, Walmart allows returns within 15 days. After that I believe you're forced to deal directly with Samsung, who will attempt to repair the issues in question. However, reading other threads leads one to believe that workign with Samsung can be a bit difficult. I've read more than once on here about a tablet being kept for weeks for a repair. I suggest you open it, get it up and running and see if it's acceptable for you. If not, return it to Walmart or exchange it for a new one.
Regarding light bleed, the topic has been somewhat overblown on here. Yes, it exists, and there certainly are bad cases of it (my 2nd unit was quite significant). You'll definitely notice it if you use the light bleed app or go into a dark room with brightness at 100% and a black background. But if you can't see it under normal circumstances don't let it worry you.
Regarding ROMs, I like Steve Spear's AOKP PUB builds, but there are quite a few other great choices. CM10.1 and Paranoid Android seem to be popular options as well. Just give a few a try until you find one that works for you.
Cheers!
Buy from sams club 30 days for return.plus owned by Walmart
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Plus buy a warranty if the one year warranty expires take it to Walmart and they will fix it up if they don't full refund though check
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Bought my Nexus 10 at Staples and last night turned up the brightness all the way to try see what the hell everyone is talking about, don't see nothing!
I googled it just now and basically to see it you'll need your screen to be on a black background with full brightness in a dark room... yeah - prolly never use my device like that - even when watching Dark Knight i didn't get that either.
I'm in the market for a tablet, and everything about this thing makes me want it... Spec wise, anyway.
Reading about tons of issues with it, mostly with light bleed, I'm wondering if i should pass this one up.
What would you do, after actually owning one? Any regrets? What way would you like to have gone instead?
I would buy another one in a heartbeat. Love it. The people complaining about light bleed and such are just (literally) looking for anything to complain about.
It's a great device. No regrets.
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The temperature throttling is the biggest issue (if not really the only thing) that was bugging me for the longest time. In short, you'd have to practically sit in a freezer or something to play any demanding games, and even then this doesn't guarantee that the tablet won't throttle due to wattage consumption (in other words, you cannot just sit permanently at the advertised 1.7GHz CPU speed). Games like NFS:MW would slideshow almost at times because of this.
So far, it seems to be less of an issue on 4.2.2 and 4.2.1 custom ROM's, but still present to an extent.
This seems the best bet for me. I just don't want to go through what seems hell and back just to get a replacement if the one i order is defective like so many seem to be. I hate to say that if i want reliability i would have to get an iPad but screwww that.
I'd mostly be using the tablet for netflix, youtube, and web browsing, so as long as i don't have any issue with video playback i shouldn't have a problem getting what i need out of it.
I've changed my mind back and forth more than five times about which tablet to get and this one never leaves the corner of my eye. I need some reassurance!
Since you're not using it for seriously heavy gaming, go for it. It's still your best bet.
About light bleed, I can't notice it in mine unless I crank it up to 90% brightness in a dark room. Not really that much of an issue tbh.
Doesn't warranty cover severe light bleeds?
jonatton said:
Since you're not using it for seriously heavy gaming, go for it. It's still your best bet.
About light bleed, I can't notice it in mine unless I crank it up to 90% brightness in a dark room. Not really that much of an issue tbh.
Doesn't warranty cover severe light bleeds?
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Does that seem to happen with anyone else, being at 90% brightness? If so, i keep my screens at around 30% to keep my eyes from straining. Maybe out won't be a big issue for me
I play shadow gun on it for hours , and only sometimes in hours , does it throttle down, I put down the tablet for a while get something to drink and get back on gaming . Reading and web browsing are an absolute charm. Flipboard is amazing. Dont worry about the Nexus 10 octa , it would probably be released by June , so the tablet is the most powerful one in the market for atleast six months. and the beautiful thing is apps will be optimised for A15s once that comes out , so its a win win for us users.
Tegra 4 is only available after Q4 2012.
Well i ordered one. Crossing my fingers! Thanks everyone
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Well i ordered one. Crossing my fingers! Thanks everyone
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Cheers! You won't regret it. Let us know of your experience with Gnex. :good:
I used several samsung 7 inch before this one as well as several android smart phones. Is the n10 problem free? No, but I grab it before I reach for any of my other devices. I love it and when they fix the few bugs, I will love it even more.
Someone would have to come up with something pretty amazing to make me buy it over a nexus (no microsoft, not talking to you)
I really wanted to get the N10, I really did. But Google just had to **** it up with their terrible customer service and a ****ty checkout system that spews out errors every single time. I'm done waiting around, so now looking for an alternative, any suggestions/recommendations?
I'm more of an Android fan obv.
TIA.
UPDATE: I ordered mines after a few e-mails with Google. Got the beast. It's amazing!
Ordering from Google was a piece of cake for me. I ordered it on a Saturday, got it that Thursday (Lexington, KY to Los Angeles). But I've never had to deal with their Support, so I'll take your word on that.
Having said that, I honestly don't think you'll find another tab that compares with the N10, but I love mine so much I'm hardly objective. I believe if you persevere with Google you'll thank yourself down the road.
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Their support is basically "read the online help sections!!!!".
Anyway, I got this email just now from Google:
"Hello,
During a recent review of your Google Checkout account, we were unable to
verify your information.
As a result, your account has been temporarily suspended and you will be
unable to place orders. In order to resolve this situation, please provide
us with the requested information of MR XXXX
within 3 business days by filling out this form"
Um, I have been buying apps with this account for a long time now. What gives?
You got me, bud. If it's a credit card issue, maybe your card company can help. Sometimes when your billing address isn't *exactly* as it's written on your statement it can cause problems. But if you've been been using the same card all along, that's probably not it. I know because of the expense of the tab, my card company called me to confirm I had placed the order before they would authorize it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I would tell you to buy from Amazon, but the last I checked, their pricing was higher.
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The best alternative right now is IMO is the Kindle HD 8.9, but it is much more difficult to root and all that. If you wait a few more months other companies will have powerful tablets out with new processors and probably high res screens.
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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The note also has front facing speakers. The shape is very similar to the n10. Major difference is the note has a plastic feel to it and in my opinion doesn't feel as solid as the n10.
Also the note does not suffer from light bleed bit you're right, the screen is not as nice!
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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Only alternative that ccould match up with the n10 is going to the the Sony Xperia Tablet Z but you will have to wait another month or two. It may actually be a little faster than the n10 as well.
There has been a lot of complaints regarding light bleed but personally it wasn't an issue. Sure I can see some slight paleness on 2 sides in the dark at max brightness but in regular light using auto-brightness I don't see it on a dark screen. And quite frankly I would never have even noticed if it hadn't been for the notorious thread here. LOL
Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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I wasn't planning on taking the tablet outside much, Used for indoors mostly, so when not in use would be charging. How 'bad' is the battery life like?
Get the galaxy note 10.1. It's a beast at multitasking!
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There are various experience with the battery... I dont know where its the problem. I tired all the variants. Kernels rom.. Brightness etc but i cant get more of 5 hours screen on ( normal use)
I realized the problem imediatly after ive got the tablet.. 3 hours at that time from 100 % to 0 %... After few cycles ive got 5 hours but after more cycles she remained at this average. I can not do a RMA anymore. Mine doesn't have screen bleeding. Maybe you will have luck to find one with battery and screen ok. By the way, the screen its nice but not so amasing . No deep Black make sometimes screen look cheap LCD. And so what its grate for some if they almost all keep it like 30% for keep the battery alive more. Sorry for my english
Anyway the main reason i like it its because it rolls android... And have a good cpu... Besides this horror customer care from google. No original accesorie yet after months from launch... That is not the way i hoped from a monster like google and Samsung.
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Samsung note 10.1
I think this tablet is the best alternative right now, because color reproduction is more vibrant then the N10. Black is deep, other main color like red,blue,and green look much more attractive to the eyes beside from the true multitasking. ( That's why I return N10 for the note 10.1). The screen isn't that sharp compare to the N10 but it isn't that bad. (If you use the tab at a right distance, then you won't notice the pixels). Color and the true multi screens, and S-pen are a plus for the Note 10.1. In my opinion, It is the best tab since I already used the Asus transformer prime, Microsoft Surface, Nexus 10. Sorry about my English and I hope this help you.
Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10.
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An amoled will ALWAYS have better blacks then an LCD. Its the nature if the display. Blacks on an Amoled are pixels that are turned off, whereas an LCD panel reproduces blacks while lit. Produced blacks (amoled) > Reproduced blacks (LCD). The trade off is worse battery life, inaccurate (but over saturated, which people love) colors, and mostly god awful whites.
The Nexus 10 is a fabulous tablet. It has its issues, they all do. But for a power user like myself, there isn't even a competition. I cannot use a Touchwiz device, and ASUS burned their bridge with me over the Nexus 7. (EMMC issues, build quality nonexistent). Sony is a true competitor but I cannot stand around for months waiting for a company to issue an update. Developers are great, and porting AOSP and CM are good in general, but they have issues and most of the time the cons outweigh the pros and I have to fall back to a stock based system. To each their own though, there is not a "One tablet fits all", even the iPad isn't perfect. I couldn't get past the Apple wall, and 4:3 aspect ratio
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Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Amoled screens have an infinite contrast ratio, your HTC Desire will have deeper blacks the an any single non amoled device out there, put it next to an iPhone, a Nexus 4, a Droid DNA and the result will be the same.
The black levels could be better here, I won't deny that.
Wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. It's rumored to have a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10. Hopefully one with deeper blacks and punchier colours though.
Hopefully it will be announced on the 14th of March with the SGS4.
Just curious...is the Nook HD+ with Cyanogen worth a look? It's a bit bare-bones compared to the N10 (no BT, no camera) but otherwise, it seemed like a good value @ $269. From what I can tell, you can even buy an N2A card to make the transition to CM painless.
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If you don't need Android... The iPad 4 is a decent enough alternative. Slightly heavier, thicker and lower resolution screen. They are on sometimes on sale too.
In android world... If not the nexus... Maybe the new Asus Memo. It's a 300 tegra 3 tablet... SD and it looks like Asus fixed the memory. If not the nexus, I'd honestly wait because a whole new generation of processors are coming.
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Hey guys
I'm looking at potentially buying a 16gb Nexus 4 and just had some questions regarding its performance.
Gripes I have with my SGS2 running CM10.1:
Texting a bunch of people at once, receving and sending a lot of SMS messages, phone lags considerably
Sending SMS messages, there is usually lag between sending the SMS, and it popping up on the screen
Random UI lag opening apps, closing, etc etc
Does the Nexus 4 have any of these "lag" issues? The whole reason I want to switch is to get rid of all the lag I face which with heavy usage (what I do), is considerable.
I've never seen videos of mass SMS on the Nexus 4 or anyone doing any heavy usage on it so I can't tell myself...
I used one at the store and it seemed quite snappy...just hard to tell without using it a lot. I'm really not looking for gaming performance or anything like that...I only care about day-to-day UI lag which I have on my S2.
I don't want to upgrade for nothing...I know it's considerably better than my S2...but how much better?
Thanks,
Elliott
Two words for you....quad core
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WAY better. The performance is second to none right now. And for the price you can't beat it.
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Two words for you....quad core
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WAY better. The performance is second to none right now. And for the price you can't beat it.
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Thanks guys. Is there still lag while the phone is under heavy load, though? As I mentioned like sending/receiving SMS from 4-5 people at once, etc?
Also any lag while scrolling in Facebook, Tumblr, etc?
Thanks again,
Elliott
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Thanks guys. Is there still lag while the phone is under heavy load, though? As I mentioned like sending/receiving SMS from 4-5 people at once, etc?
Also any lag while scrolling in Facebook, Tumblr, etc?
Thanks again,
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I haven't had any. The only lag I get is the bloody XDA app. I hear that is pretty universal, though.
This phone is one of the fastest phones you can buy on the market and one major reason it is so fast is because it has no custom skins to slow the phone down.
Thanks guys...anyone else?
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Thanks guys...now reading about the battery life I'm a bit put off...
It seems as though even people who have similar routines are getting wildly different battery life from each other...have read good things about Franco's kernel...but even then some people still report like 1.5 hours of SoT...a bit ridiculous but it seems to be all over the board. Obviously it depends how you use it but they don't say heavy usage was involved...no wakelocks.
Worries me coming from an S2 with an extended battery.
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Then don't buy it.
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Then don't buy it.
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Lol...what is your battery life like? How much screen on time specifically? Anyway I didn't really want to turn this into a battery debate so I deleted that post.
Can't go wrong with the N4; absolutely no lag whatsoever and the best Android experience I've had so far, and I've owned (in order) a Droid X, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3 and an HTC One X.
The infamous heat issue is solved pretty easily with a custom kernel, that and the on-screen time you're aiming for
Cool thanks for the reply!
my sot(Wi-Fi & nothing syncing)...
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This is fastest phone!
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I had SGS2 and I switched to Nexus 4..
Using AOKP + custom kernel on it atm.
No lag or at all
Never really had 4 or 5 people sms me at once, but I run multiplies apps and is smooth as butter!
As for battery life, you are not going to get the same amount as you get in S2..I'm I am a light user; I will end up with 65~70% at the end of the day.
Get around 20% per and hour when browsering .. so 5 hours?
And you do get a better/bigger screen.
Thanks guys! QUIETLYloud is that on stock ROM and stock kernel? That's pretty amazing...although what were you doing the whole time?
bobola what kernel are you using?
7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
This phone rocks, I just sold the Note 2 to get this. I like my Nexus 4 better than Note 2. And much better than my two last year phones, the HTC One X international, and Galaxy Nexus.
Battery life is second best next to the Note 2 I had, but is better than the One X and Galaxy Nexus for sure.
I get around 4h On Screen time, sometimes 5h. Also total battery life throughout the day, can range from 10 hours total on super busy workdays, using phone non stop, to 16 - 18 hours on light days.
This phone will not give you 24+ hours battery life with heavy use, no. But its not as bad as many Android phones either. I'd rate the N4 battery life above medium.
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Oh yeah, the size of the Nexus 4 = best.
4.7" is just right to me, not iPhone 5 tiny, but also not outrageously huge like Note 2 I had. Even the Galaxy S4 at 5" will be borderline hard to truly one hand operate with ease.
Please Nexus-Five, no larger than 4.8".
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Starholdest said:
Thanks guys! QUIETLYloud is that on stock ROM and stock kernel? That's pretty amazing...although what were you doing the whole time?
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I was playing poker(about 2 hours)... downloaded 6 30 minute hd videos(via tube mate)... watched about 4 hours worth hd videos... 1 hr call total... bunch of web(I'm a news hound)... bunch of xda... I'll be testing today without any Wi-Fi
I'm on stock odex'd and matrix kernel v8
calyxim said:
7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
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not true... you get 5 hours completely stock
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calyxim said:
7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
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The color of the screen has absolutely no bearing on battery usage on a non-AMOLED handset. AMOLED, sure, each pixel is also it's own light source (black = no light, white = most light). LCD screens with a backlight? No. The only factor there is screen brightness; every pixel is lit from the same light source in LCD no matter what color they are.
Now, if you meant that the phone was doing absolutely nothing but displaying a static image on lowest brightness, that would make a difference. That would make more sense considering that the battery history does show that while the screen was on for extended periods of time the phone itself has very little awake time. Then again, I think the awake time indicator is for wakelocks when the screen is off. Either way, it's a very odd looking battery stats screen.
This phone rocks.
Nexus phones just feel so right to me. Good comfortable size, and the stock OS is just so slim and light, minimalistic, no bullsh!t bloat, no stupid UI's that still use Gingerbread green colors and themes ( looking at you Touchjizz, and Senseless )
I love the front bezel, all black, no branding on it. And this screen looks very nice, once calibrated with custom kernel.
Thing is, Nexus phone are never top spec power beasts, they come out at an odd time for Android releases. Like most high end new Android phones are released in Spring, where Nexus is always Fall. Samsung, HTC, and Sony release their top phones in Spring. So you can look at a Nexus as outdated hardware wise in just a few months after release.
At launch end of year, a Nexus phone is the top spec of that year, but not by much, just slightly best specs. But come 4 to 5 months later they are easily outdone by the next gen phones of the new year.
Saying all that, I still take a Nexus 4 over anything else now. And the Nexus-Five will be best phone of 2013, with Android 5.0 KLP, and Snapdragon 800, with a 3100mAh battery, released this Fall.
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So I have been waiting for Google IO to see if there are any updates for the phone itself or a new phone but it seems more and more there won't be anything big, or it may just be an LTE version. I have no need for LTE at this present time.
There is a good deal today on ebay for a Nexus 4 for international shipping and I want to know whether I should go for it or rather wait till after I/O?
Opinions?
Just get it now , its a good phone and it will last you , at least that's how I feel about my nexus . also if the deal is that good , then yeah get it , make sure the imei is clean and there is no problems , have fun ! :thumbup:
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Wait, seriously. If something awesome is released, you'll be kicking yourself in the butt for not being patient
I could easily see a battery upgrade which is the Achilles heel for this phone.
This has always been a problem with phones: not daring to buy a new one because something else, something possibly better, may be coming up. But trust me: the Nexus 4 is a great phone with great specs and still has updates to come for ages. And about the battery life: with the right mods you'll get through 1,5 day.
You won't be disappointed and if you keep on looking towards newer models, then you'll never get yourself a new one.
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it will be a long while before the nexus 4 feels outdated, it is still top end spec for crying out loud.
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
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There's nothing better out there in terms of Android software support. Even if you sell it a few months down the road, you'll still get a good price for it since it is a Nexus and it will hold it's value.
This phone is future proofed. Go for it.
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Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
galaxys said:
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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yes OP! Go try the other phones first, BUT if you want the smoothest phone around with No bloatware, the greatest specs all around with a price no one can beat, you might as well ! Some people say the hype about HTC one is almost at end Aside from the aluminium casing and the specs, nothing else would be exciting.
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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I said the battery was bad relative to other devices, for instance the S3 gets at least 4. And temperature concerns have been mentioned by many others besides myself even on xda, it is not limited to myself.
xanthrax said:
Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
This only works if you have fast speeds such as LTE or higher, and unlimited data.
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
I said the device has no supported LTE, nothing is wrong with that statement. It would make sense for them to support a modern medium
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
I just found it lacking compared to my Sensation, people always complain they can't hear me.
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
What does the device's temperature have to do app compatibility?
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
But if an even better device was to be announced the OP would be kicking himself like someone else said. I find the S4 Pro to be a double edged sword, you get A15 like performance but there are actual design issues that Faux has mentioned such as the wakelock for the usb and the sleep states.
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
IMO it is very unlikely that we'll see a Nexus 5 in some days, a new version of the Nexus 4 seems much more likely to me. Either way I would wait these 10 days until I/O. But keep in mind that what we will see at I/O will not be available in the stores right away...
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
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Nexus 5 will come later this year, not at Google io
Google always releases Nexus phones q4 of the year
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Thanks for the input guys. Note that I am definitely only going for the Nexus purely because of the price, it's way cheaper than anything else close in aesthetics and performance.
Just wanted to know whether to wait to see if maybe there is an improvement at I/O, which I think I will do.
OK Acer ... I would advice the OP to ignore my post due to " lack of stock English support " ...
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zephiK said:
I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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If you want to deal with Touchwiz, Sense or broken AOSP ROMs then sure, the S4 and One are hot devices.