So, I just got my nexus 10 from wallmart. (Q) - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.

XxsydenxX said:
Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.
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Walmart you have 15days. Don't call google if its within 15 days just take it back to Walmart. After 15 days you would contact Samsung for a repair. You have one year warranty.
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IMHO the light bleed fuss is a non-issue....at least for me. I honestly do not notice it at all. Not saying it is 100% not there....it just has ZERO negative impact.

stormricker said:
IMHO the light bleed fuss is a non-issue....at least for me. I honestly do not notice it at all. Not saying it is 100% not there....it just has ZERO negative impact.
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Same here. I bought my tablet to use & enjoy which I do constantly. I looked for it only because some people go nutz about it & wanted to see what the fuss was about. I can't see the big deal. On normal use I've never seen it or worried about it. It's a total non-issue for me also & as stormricker stated: ZERO negative impact.
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XxsydenxX said:
Okay so I just got mine. Actually havent even opened it. But i have heard so much about light bleed and other various build quality issues that I thought I should get a few questions off of my chest
#1 If this does have(Extensive) light bleed, am I better off going to google and getting a replacement. (Ive never done this before so I qouldnt know how)
If so how?
#2 What are the most stable roms I can slap on this pup right now? Any kernels that improve on some of the more known location services bugs?
#3 What is the return policy on this. Is it like a standard 1 year manufacturer warranty that covers build errors? Or can I only return it within 15 days.
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I'm not 100% certain, but I believe because you purchased it at Walmart a return through Google is not an option (for my 2 RMAs I was asked if I purchased my tablet through Google Play when I called them). As mentioned above, Walmart allows returns within 15 days. After that I believe you're forced to deal directly with Samsung, who will attempt to repair the issues in question. However, reading other threads leads one to believe that workign with Samsung can be a bit difficult. I've read more than once on here about a tablet being kept for weeks for a repair. I suggest you open it, get it up and running and see if it's acceptable for you. If not, return it to Walmart or exchange it for a new one.
Regarding light bleed, the topic has been somewhat overblown on here. Yes, it exists, and there certainly are bad cases of it (my 2nd unit was quite significant). You'll definitely notice it if you use the light bleed app or go into a dark room with brightness at 100% and a black background. But if you can't see it under normal circumstances don't let it worry you.
Regarding ROMs, I like Steve Spear's AOKP PUB builds, but there are quite a few other great choices. CM10.1 and Paranoid Android seem to be popular options as well. Just give a few a try until you find one that works for you.
Cheers!

Buy from sams club 30 days for return.plus owned by Walmart
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Plus buy a warranty if the one year warranty expires take it to Walmart and they will fix it up if they don't full refund though check
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Bought my Nexus 10 at Staples and last night turned up the brightness all the way to try see what the hell everyone is talking about, don't see nothing!
I googled it just now and basically to see it you'll need your screen to be on a black background with full brightness in a dark room... yeah - prolly never use my device like that - even when watching Dark Knight i didn't get that either.

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Issue Poll (How many of you really have it?)

Hey guys! I thought I'd start a poll to see how many Note owners have issues. It seems that a lot of people complain, and it may seem exaggerated. Let's find out.
THE POLL: 2 phase poll
Are you having issues?
Please elaborate in the thread.
the 2 threads thats posted, theres only about 5 people with issues.
intruda119 said:
the 2 threads thats posted, theres only about 5 people with issues.
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That's why I started the poll, to actually see how many people are having issues or not. I showed this thread to my room mate, and he laughed and said "I'm sure some of them are Apple employees trying to steal some thunder" lol.
Regardless, I've taken the plunge, and I hope I get a good one, but just to see, I read a lot on this forum and I see a lot of negative remarks, which worried me, and I'm patient enough to read a lot, so I'm sure there are others who are less patient and just want to know what the real situation is... hence this thread's creation
Interesting!
Biggest issue with any device is the internet. You have to take what you read with a grain of salt. If I listen to the internet I wouldnt have a house full of nice things.
Wouldnt have ended up with my favorite vehicle dodge magnum or my plasma tv if it was up to the internet. Years later they all work perfectly till this day.
All in all, people tend to post more when there having issues then when not. If I created a thread about how awesome the note is, it would maybe get 20-50 post if your lucky and sink to the last page of the website. If I made a thread about something negative about the note I would have a 100+ post and 100000 views.
If majority of the galaxy notes in the world had issues, you wouldnt have to visit xda or android forums to find out. Good luck with your poll.
intruda119 said:
Biggest issue with any device is the internet. You have to take what you read with a grain of salt. If I listen to the internet I wouldnt have a house full of nice things.
Wouldnt have ended up with my favorite vehicle dodge magnum or my plasma tv if it was up to the internet. Years later they all work perfectly till this day.
All in all, people tend to post more when there having issues then when not. If I created a thread about how awesome the note is, it would maybe get 20-50 post if your lucky and sink to the last page of the website. If I made a thread about something negative about the note I would have a 100+ post and 100000 views.
If majority of the galaxy notes in the world had issues, you wouldnt have to visit xda or android forums to find out. Good luck with your poll.
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I know this to be true. But still in my opinion I've seen more negative things said in this forum than any other that I've frequented... just my 2ยข
I don't see any harm in having this poll either. I think it'll reaffirm more than it will bother. Especially since it takes all of 3 seconds to vote and hit the back key.
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No issue so far. The only problem I face is kinda "short" battery life. Got 5:30 at most with non-stop heavy usage. So I have to charge it twice a day. And the charging time kinda slow due to big battery capacity.
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newb4ev3r said:
No issue so far. The only problem I face is kinda "short" battery life. Got 5:30 at most with non-stop heavy usage. So I have to charge it twice a day. And the charging time kinda slow due to big battery capacity.
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That's actually not that bad. I have the 2.000 mah battery from Samsung in my sgs2 and I get around 3-4 hours of screen on time. So 2.500 for that big of a screen I think is good.
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Wifi signal dropped
Got my note last week and right off the bat I noticed my wifi signal kept getting dropped (as in auto turned itself off). At first I thought it was just a freak accident, but after having to repeatedly turn on wifi I realized something was wrong; I re-setup my wifi connection settings a couple of times, did the OTA update avail to my unit (unlocked, unbranded version) and even did factory reset twice but to no avail. I guess I should say factory reset seemed to fix it the first time, but the problem came back after close to an hour of testing. Thankfully I just bought it so I returned it to the seller who claimed after testing for 2 hrs my problem never flared up, but still decided to send me a replace thank God! I hope this isn't the case with the new handset I will be receiving in a few days, but I wonder if anyone has had this?
btw the wifi connection was setup to a secured network so it wasn't about being booted off for too many devices to my router
got no real issues, some battery drain problems that i can easily detected and destroyed thats all.
I have problem with Android OS eating CPU when Wi-Fi enabled. Disabling it helps. This is a software issue, I had the same with my SGS2 once a while.
until the screen everything is near perfect! with the screen i have the same issue as with my first galaxy S2: one side of the screen has a tint and is considerably darker at low brightness levels. (S2: left side, yellow tint; Note: right side, blue tint)
I used to have "sleep of death" issue but not anymore since I flashed the latest KL3 firmware.
Seems i may have some problems with call clarity, but i don't really care as i only use it for that in emergencies. Also this may change with the addition of a blutooth headset or if i get some more practice calling people/being called on it.
I bet most of you have units with the horizontal lines appearing. You just gotta look closely at low brightness, lol. These statistics don't look appealing to me; I've seen over 10 Notes all over India and all have identical issues. No difference, lol. Go Figure.
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I bet most of you have units with the horizontal lines appearing. You just gotta look closely at low brightness, lol. These statistics don't look appealing to me; I've seen over 10 Notes all over India and all have identical issues. No difference, lol. Go Figure.
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its possible that all India units had a bad production line. And if you REALLY need to look that closely, why would you care if it's not noticeable? This is always true with cars, your body (as no one is completely symmetrical), or anything hand made. this is no different, but if you can't notice it yourself, and you use it happily, then why bother yourself FINDING AND LOOKING for issues?
If you have to look closely then thats not a real issue, but yeah even upon closer inspection the screen should not have any of those since the lower end SAMOLED devices dont have it.
On my end the main issue I have is the lines as well but you dont need to look for it, at any brightness level its visible even at 100% but its been approved for a screen replacement anyway.
A small issue is on the ear piece but I've gotten used to this on samsung devices since the galaxy S1, the volume on the ear piece is EXTREMELY low.. my older and cheaper phones have about 3x more volume and about TWICE the clarity.
Touch screen sensitivity is rather poor compared to the Galaxy S1 ( pre 2.2 update ) it has the same sensitivity level as an untweaked Galaxy S2.
Gamma levels need to be worked out, the HD screen is moot.
No issues yes.. Owned it for two days only..
If you included the pink spot on the poll that would probably be the most selected issue.
dellwole said:
Got my note last week and right off the bat I noticed my wifi signal kept getting dropped (as in auto turned itself off). At first I thought it was just a freak accident, but after having to repeatedly turn on wifi I realized something was wrong; I re-setup my wifi connection settings a couple of times, did the OTA update avail to my unit (unlocked, unbranded version) and even did factory reset twice but to no avail. I guess I should say factory reset seemed to fix it the first time, but the problem came back after close to an hour of testing. Thankfully I just bought it so I returned it to the seller who claimed after testing for 2 hrs my problem never flared up, but still decided to send me a replace thank God! I hope this isn't the case with the new handset I will be receiving in a few days, but I wonder if anyone has had this?
btw the wifi connection was setup to a secured network so it wasn't about being booted off for too many devices to my router
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I had a similar issue, however I tracked the problem down to my setup. A couple of weeks after acquiring the Note, the wi-fi started to turn itself off 'on it's own'. This happened for several days in a row, so I thought there was a problem with the phone, however...
I use an application call Llama to automatically switch on and off my Wi-fi when I enter or leave my home GSM cell (there's only one cell in the village where I live!). I'd been using this app for well over a year on my Desire without issue, so I'd automatically installed it on the Note. It turns out that that the cell tower was either faulty, being fixed/upgraded or both. I told Llama to spend 5 minutes relearning the cells in my area and the problem has now gone away

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I had some questions about the nexus 10 I ordered mine from play store shouls be getting here soon after I readed all these problems im ready thinking its gonna be bad like some people say . How do getting replacements work . Do they send me one first then I send messed up one back . After the 15 day return period could you still get replacements if like the screen leeks bad . ???????
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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If you let Google put the cost of a new Nexus 10 on hold then they will send you a Nexus 10 while you still have yours. The money will be released when they receive your old Nexus 10.
Replacements are done through Google first, and after the return/replacement period then warranty for hardware defects is through Samsung. The Nexus 10 comes with a 1 year warranty, but a couple people have had problems with Samsung trying to say the warranty is only 90 days. The booklet clearly says 1 year though, and I think it says 1 year in the Play store when you buy the tablet so Samsung will have to honor that. If there are too many problems try and get Google involved with Samsung not upholding warranty on Google's tablets.
And it is really just 15% of people making a large stink about problems, many people are perfectly fine and happy with the tablet. Of those 15%, probably 5% will simply never be happy and just want to cause problems.
When you get your tablet be sure to set your background to solid black and delete all icons on the homescreen. Turn the brightness up half way and look for backlight bleed. if you have some, then you should consider returning the tablet for a new one, especially is the bleed has a yellow color to it rather than white. You can turn the backlight up higher to check with more brightness, but if you dont notice it at 50% then you probably wont ever notice any issues with the screen during any use.
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Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes i would buy it again ...
but with more care about the possible defect . test the product very good before decide to keep it or not . dont trust google and samsung
- test the bleeding ( i have alot 4 points )
- test the battery . you should get at least 6 hour of screen minimum minimum on surfing the net . ( i get 5 )
- test the hdmi out ( i got it deffective from the box )
At least this are my problems
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htcbrazilian said:
Do you like your tablet . If you could go back would you have still bought it ?
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Yes I love mine. It is extremely smooth with custom ROMs and kernels. We have lots of great options from developers, battery life is exceptional, and the screen looks amazing watching an HD movie or TV show. I suppose if I had ever had problems with the tablet then I may feel differently, but I have yet to have any issues whatsoever. My one regret is that I did not purchase a 32GB version. If I could go back I would have waited another week to buy and paid the extra $100 for double storage space. I have a lot of games installed and my tablet is 90% full on space at all times and I wish I could install more.
I also have the note 10.1 which one you think is better .
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I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
EniGmA1987 said:
I havent used the Note 10.1 so I really dont know. The performance on the Nexus 10 is much better, and I like the higher res screen. But I heard the colors still look nicer on the Note 10.1.
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When do you notice the light bleeding?
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My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
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My tablet does not show any hint of light bleed until it reaches 80% or more brightness on a completely black background. Which is pretty good since LCD screens just inherently have light bleed because of how the backlight is designed for the tech. I have never even gone above 30% brightness while in doors, and outside at 100% it would be impossible to see any backlight bleeding anyway.
Once your tablet arrives I highly suggest the KTManta kernel. It has lots of fun options and the only kernel with a bit of color fix.
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Will do
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Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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Lim Wee Huat said:
Don't let bad comments on the forum frighten you away.. It wasn't that bad anyway. I'm still loving it.
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Do you have any problems with yours
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I love my N10. But this is my second one, I had to RMA my first one. I was pretty vocal about the problems I was having, because of this:
+Its true that there is a lot of problem threads about this device. Partially this is from Android 4.2.1 not playing well with the N10, partially its because there are some defective N10 devices out there. I know because I had one! When you, the end user, has a general problem and then you go online to try and see if there is a fix, you find these threads, and everyone chimes in together it starts to get intense. Some of the people, as another user said, may never actually be satisfied. But others are reporting real problems, trying to find a fix. Im a lot more OCD than most people I meet, so I just assumed that was what was going on. I assumed I was just being picky, and that others were just being okay with it. But now, after using a different N10, I can say there was a guaranteed problem with my first unit.
So, just like the people that say "bad" need to be taken with a grain of salt, so do the people that say "good". I can say this: there are both good and bad N10s out there, and one thing EVERY new N10 owner needs to do is QUICKLY determine if you have a good or a bad one so that you can remedy the situation ASAP if you have a bad one.
~bm
There's two things I'm not a big fan of on the Nexus 10:
- Thermal throttling (this shouldn't even be an issue under normal circumstances, but the situation is far better than it was around launch)
- Available memory (we only have access to 1.2GB of RAM, not anywhere near the advertised 2GB)
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Do you have any problems with yours
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Nope. I rooted it as soon as I got my hands on it. My fave: Rasbeanjelly + Trinity..
Edit: Thermal throttling is a common problem across all Nexus devices. But I don't consider it a big problem because I'm underclocked.

[Q] About to buy a used Nexus 4.

I'm about to buy a used Nexus 4 off of craigslist to use in Taiwan and Japan and possibly through T-mobile in the US later this year. It should work for all of those, right?
Anything in particular I should inspect when I meet up with the person? Stuff unique to Nexus 4 maybe, but also stuff in general, since I've never bought a used phone before!
Thanks a bunch guys!
To be hones, stay away from the N4. Before I bought the N4 I had a Nexus S and was happy with it.
In my opinion there is no "perfect" phone, but the N4 has critical bug: e.g. the N4 will stuck in "deep-sleep"-mode over night if you don't plug in the charger, ALTHOUGH it was fully charged.
I had this bug not only over night. Sometimes it happened when I had this phone in my pocket.
This is DEADLY when you are using the phone as a alarm glock and have exams and I am not the only one with this problem.
I also had other problems like bootloops after random reboots. I tried stock and custom roms and kernels.
I don't know if the N5 has similar problems. If not (I hope so), I would recommend you the N5.
# EDIT: About 2 month ago, I changed the SIM-Card and configured it. After I finished configuring the SIM-Card I put my old back on my N4 -> got stuck in booloop again.
Check for dead spots and ghost touches, its a pretty common on the 2nd edition of of the G4's.
My Nexus 4 is currently facing these problems.
Krazhil said:
To be hones, stay away from the N4. Before I bought the N4 I had a Nexus S and was happy with it.
In my opinion there is no "perfect" phone, but the N4 has critical bug: e.g. the N4 will stuck in "deep-sleep"-mode over night if you don't plug in the charger, ALTHOUGH it was fully charged.
I had this bug not only over night. Sometimes it happened when I had this phone in my pocket.
This is DEADLY when you are using the phone as a alarm glock and have exams and I am not the only one with this problem.
I also had other problems like bootloops after random reboots. I tried stock and custom roms and kernels.
I don't know if the N5 has similar problems. If not (I hope so), I would recommend you the N5.
# EDIT: About 2 month ago, I changed the SIM-Card and configured it. After I finished configuring the SIM-Card I put my old back on my N4 -> got stuck in booloop again.
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Unfortunately, my budget won't allow for a Nexus 5, so Nexus 4 is where it's at for me. I'm going to be buying the N4 for $150, so the N5 would be almost double of that.
Looking around on google, I can find some, but not too many people with the deep sleep freezing bug. I wonder how common it is.
The deep freeze bug isn't that common, nor is it something I've ever had a personal problem with.
One thing to watch out for: as you can see by this board the Nexus is a very customizable device. Make sure you understand what you're getting and if it is truly stock or if the seller installed any custom kernels, patches, etc. Mine for example is running the stock ROM but is rooted w/ custom recovery and has Franco's kernel, an old modem to enable LTE, and the Dalvik optimization patches. The extras aren't apparent at first glance. Asking for an assurance that the phone is truly stock or that seller lists any changes isn't unreasonable. Getting a screen cap of the setup/phone screen might be useful too or at least a look at it if you pick up locally.
For hardware, it's an all glass phone so watch for scratches and cracks. The power button takes abuse so make sure it works properly. Camera is a common complaint so maybe snap a photo of two with it. Finally, you want a clean IMEI so for a Craigslist sale I'd want to see the phone working on a network before I took possession. Ideally seller will have it working, you check it, then they remove their SIM and factory reset it in front of you.
I bought my N4 used off of eBay for under $200 and couldn't be happier. Good luck.
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I'm about to buy a used Nexus 4 off of craigslist to use in Taiwan and Japan and possibly through T-mobile in the US later this year. It should work for all of those, right?
Anything in particular I should inspect when I meet up with the person? Stuff unique to Nexus 4 maybe, but also stuff in general, since I've never bought a used phone before!
Thanks a bunch guys!
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First, I am going to say I agree with everything @rhavasy said... That being said, my honest opinion for the price of used Nexus 4, you may want to consider the Moto G 16GB GPE (Google Play Edition) for $199, you will also have a warranty and no worries that it has been modified or abused significantly (I once knew a guy that bragged he had overclocked his phone to the point it nearly burned his hand, then he restored it and sold it as "stock")
At first glance it looks inferior to the N4 in most respects, and technically speaking for the most part that is correct, but my son needed a new phone recently and the N5 and other GPE models were way out of his budget at the time, and Moto G was so well reviewed we got one, and it is amazing... it is on par with the N4 in all real world uses, including gaming, plus the battery life is easily double my N4.
If you really are set on a N4, be careful, otherwise, consider the Moto G... Plus the "water resistant" feature of G makes it a pretty amazing phone, check out some of the Moto G water test videos on Youtube from reputable review sites, 30 minutes immersion in water well powered up and no ill effects.
There are many horror stories with used N4s. Because it was a pretty highend phone for a low price at the time many people who bought it didn't take proper care of it so the market is flooded with damaged units with some very nasty scratches. I saw one once, mint condition with its original box and everything yet the screen looked as if someone had taken a fork to it, with a hammer.
Still an excellent phone which should work for you for years:good:
If the guy has the phone insured he can always claim it stolen after he sells it to you and then you'll have a barred phone, a danger with buying any 2nd hand phone privately.
I've had my nexus 4 for 16months and is still perfect, buy the phone and enjoy it
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I still love my N4. I have had it for about a year, and rooted and installed a LOT of stuff, absolutely NO problems. I don't see anything wrong. You should get it.
I've had my N4 for about 2 years. It's the best phone I've ever had.
yes, nothing wrong with nexus 4.excellent phone.
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My Xperiz Z3 (D6616) Experience

Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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pezlomd said:
Hey I haven't experienced any touch screen problems what so ever and I'm a heavy long time android user. Call quality is great as well. Not sure what's going on with yours
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Pezlomd,
Thanks for the reply. Out of curiousity, what are your OS details:
-Android: 4.4.4
-Baseband version: 8974-AAAAANAZQ-00009-06
-Kernel version: 3.4.0-perf-g0ab9f9a (Fri Sep 5 07:22.38 2014
-Build number: 23.0.D.1.123:
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Johnathan
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
Elysian893 said:
Return it, sounds like you got a defective phone.
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Ugh... and after I got it the way I want it.
johnathanamber said:
Hey everyone,
So, I've acquired my Z3 from Tmo on Oct 29th, the day it was released. Thus far, I've pretty happy with it. The battery is amazing, although I know it will last me over a day, or more, I'm stuck in my old habits of charging...which I am attempting to get used to better battery life. Anywho, here's my cons with this phone:
-I was using a Samsung Galaxy S3 (T999). The touch screen worked great. This phone though, I've had delays or my touches not being noticed. More so when I first turn the phone on to the lockscreen. If I give it about 10 seconds, it will respond to all touches.
-Along the same lines as the lockscreen not acknowledging all my touches, this also happens during various games or apps. Playing Arcane Legends, for instance, when I attempt to move, sometimes it doesn't. If I retry two or three times, it will then start working.
-I also get crackling sounds during calls, not all the time, but it is often enough. Also, when I have the touch sounds enabled and speakers plugged into it, it often also makes crackling sounds.
-Had many more settings to choose from when I was using Cyanogenmod 11 on my SGS3. I would figure this to be the case, but I do miss some settings, especially some Security-based ones. Maybe there are secret menus?
-I also wished that the LED was brighter... in my opinion it is really dim.
With all that being said, and knowing that Android L is on the way in a few months, I'm more than willing to wait to see is these issues are resolved. If not, I'll be getting a hold of Sony support to resolve these issues.
I'm curious if any of you have had these issues and if you've found workarounds.
As far as the pros, they outweigh the cons noted above. Battery is awesome, responsiveness if awesome, the overall experience is awesome. Works well with anything that I throw at it and its still goes beyond that.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
johnathanamber said:
I'd like to also add, that as far as functionality of the phone itself, the rotating flaps for the exposed ports seems to be a little flimsy and can easily break. This worries me a bit that if they are accidentally snapped off due to slight mishandling... you'll lose your waterproofing.
Also, I don't like that the volume options when using the volume up and down buttons isn't more granular. For instance, when I wanted to increase the SMS notification volume, I had to go through Setting instead of having more volume options when the buttons are pressed. Did I miss a setting?
Considering getting it replaced to see if that's the issue with the touchness delay or crackling sounds.
Thanks,
Johnathan
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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The phone comes with an extra USB cover, won't lose anything. MicroSD/Sim shouldn't come off very often. I don't think you need be concerned.
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Elysian893,
I am not concerned for my own experience, however I can see where this can be an issue.
Waiting for my DK48 magnetic dock to arrive, which will alleviate my concern.
Thanks,
Johnathan
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
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Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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I'm surprised at the z3 hate on xda. With all the complaints about the camera, build quality, software issues, etc, I find myself getting paranoid looking for problems with the phone. The truth is that it's a pretty great phone so far. Great battery, great camera, fast and responsive, and yes, as sexy as shermcraigs wife ?. A week in and I'm happy with my trade from my m8.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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Its not that the phone itself is bad per say, its the lack of consistency/quality control. I am on my 4th one here due to various issues from indented frame to bad camera to light bleed to massive screen gaps. Thanks to T-Mobile 14 day policy I was able to through so many phones. A rep had to open 5-6 phones to give me a good one when I got my third only to find it has a massive ligh tleak on on side. The one I got today thank god is finally issueless so far at least. My local T-Mobile store is sending many back to Sony, they are actively opening boxes, checking for defects and returning before even giving to customers.
I have owned phones from practically every company, this is the first time I have had to return a phone, let alone 3. All companies have issues with initial batches but this was just too widespread. I am sure future batches will be rectified, its one of the down sides of immediately adopting a new model as soon as release.
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But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
ShermCraig said:
Johnathan,
I've experienced some crackling/popping when on a call without using my headset. After a reboot though, it seems to have gone away. The last 2 days, my battery began lasting no more than 5-6 hours. I thought that it might have something to do with an app, so I began experimenting and found that the Sony Photo upload service was hanging, and also Lookout was scanning everything constantly. I uninstalled Lookout and disabled the Sony uploads and things seem to have returned to normal, although I will need another day or so to evaluate.
FWIW, here is my review I posted over the weekend:
___________________________________________
Never owned a Sony phone but now I "have a Sony for my Owny" (older folks will get this line)! I must say - I am in love with one caveat - that being a locked bootloader. Pretty disappointed in that however I was happy to read a page or 2 back that I will likely still be able to root which is really all I care about. That said, the bloatware on the D6616 is minimal, so aside from liking to try out new ROM's and removing ads, I guess I can live with that one "caveat".
The phone itself is gorgeous - in fact, I told my wife that it's almost as sexy as she is (yeah - I take my phone's pretty seriously )! I love its size - I had a OnePlus One which I was pretty happy with, but being an average size guy (that's being generous), I found it really difficult to use it with one hand. The Z3 has a slightly smaller screen size vs the OPO, but the overall build size is proportionally smaller as well, making it even more attractive size-wise. Of course, the other side of that coin is that the OPO has a non-slip back in the 64gb version which was really nice, however I see that wearing out over time. The Z3 is slippery meaning I will likely cover the beautiful beast with a case - but we'll see if I end up keeping a case on it. I've always been one to believe that if you have insurance and a beautiful device, covering that device with a case is counter-intuitive. I'm torn on the case thing - time will tell.
The phone is incredibly smooth and responsive, the speaker is pretty loud and sounds good, and the camera is arguably the best available on a phone. Not sure I like all the options the camera offers - many or pretty hokey - but the picture quality is just brilliant. Overall, this phone may last me more than a year which would beat my last two phones. You see, I have "NewPhone-itus" and it's a serious case!
If anyone has any questions - fire away and I will do my best to answer!
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I would seriously doubt it - he was exchanging a bad unit,
not returning. Big difference.
jhun80 said:
But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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jhun80 said:
But you have to pay for restocking fee of $50?
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No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
abhinav.tella said:
No fees, because its a defect and you are asking for the same model. Fee is only if you switch models.
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really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
jhun80 said:
really? because i used to have a black s4, and switch to white version but they charged me $50
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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Did you do it within the first 14 days?
Maybe color change constitutes the equivalent of model change.
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yup within 14days
I haven't experienced any lag with the touch screen, but I've experienced slow screen rotation.
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yup within 14days
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My sister exchanged her white GS4 for another white one due to yellowish tint on top, they did it for free. I think because you just wanted a color change and there was no defect they charged you.
I have T-Mobile.
My only gripe is that there is no Group MMS built in. It really, really sucks. And it is causing me to return this phone in a few days. I can use Textra (or Google Hangouts) for Group MMS, but it will not send them out when WiFi Calling is enabled. I know there is a "WiFI Calling fix" option specifically for T-Mobile phones when using Textra, but all that does is disable WiFi when sending/receiving MMS messages and then re-enables it. That completely defeats the purpose of WiFI Calling if you're not going to have service in a certain area.
Group MMS is extremely important to me. For whatever reason, only stock messaging apps have the capability of utilizing T-Mobile's WiFi Calling to send/receive MMS. (SMS works fine).
My HTC One m7 had the ability to do it with its stock messaging app. So, for now, I have no choice but to return my phone, fight the $50 restocking fee, and go back to my paid off HTC One. I am speechless that this phone does not support it.

Would you buy again?

Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones
Me, along with 3 friends, got the BA version at release. None of us have the screen issue though. Even if I would have had it, and RMA:d the phone, I would do it again. the phone is too amazing to miss out on! I am rooted however, and none of my friends root their devices. I run Omega kernel and have 0 issues, but all of my 3 friends get the "overheated" message several times a day (I haven't gotten it even once). I would draw the conclusion - If you root and are willing to use custom kernels, go for it! If you want to keep stock, you might aswell want to check for alternatives.
Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?
Difficult question It is a great device with nearly all features I like in a top smartphone, especially the addition of wireless charging suits me fine.
My major gripe is actually with the size of the device, while its thin it feels very large (both in width and height) and I'm not sure I like it for an everyday-carry device.
Plus I sorely feel a lack of communication from OP with regard to some of the initial issues and their status when it comes to OOS - screen, fingerprint....
Presently I am very torn between the OP8Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - both great in their own way, its quite possible the form factor and size will lean towards the Xiaomi in the end.....
To answer directly: no, I most probably wouldn't buy such a large device again..... Would I buy the 8 Pro again, aside from its size but rather its features: yes, anytime !
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Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?
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I use GPay several times a day. All you need to do is enable Magisk Hide and it's all good. If someone has other issues with it, it's probably not root/Magisk-related but something else they tinkered with... My assumption.
On my 6T some public betas weren't CTS verified, thos times I had to use the MagiskHide Props Config module to get it working, but no such issues on 8Pro. But I assume, if they start releaseing betas, this would be the solution once again.
I'd buy again.
Coming from 4 google devices in a row. 6P, 2xl, 3xl and 4xl.
I enjoyed them all and there is definitely something about getting all that google offers first but the 8 pro is far and away a better phone and phone experience.
And, so far, updates have come right on the heels of when google updates their line of phones so that's a great thing so far.
And, as someone said above, you can still have google pay while being rooted.
Also, I've had zero screen issues but there is something going on with wifi that I can't quite put my finger on.
Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush gone.
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Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush are gone.
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In a heratbeat! IMO, this is one of the best Android devices to come down the pike in a long time.
Thanks for the replies guys. I have gone ahead and ordered one from Amazon, arrives tomorrow. Chose Amazon as they don't question any returns
Short answer - no.
Longer answer - I've had one for a few days and I've already decided to either return it or sell it on Swappa. My main gripe is the camera. I had seen so many reviews saying Oneplus had finally nailed the camera so I decided to give it a try. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage. Every time I try taking a picture, no matter what the lighting conditions are or the camera mode I'm in, the pictures come out looking awful. I'll tap the shutter button, get the haptic feedback, and then the camera will just hang for a full second before it finally takes the picture. If I'm taking a picture of a still object, in bright lighting, and I make an extra effort to hold my hands as still as possible while all that goes on, then the end result will be about 60% as good as what I can get by just quickly pointing and shooting with my Pixel 4 XL. If the situation is anything less than that absolute ideal, the end result is a blurry smeary overexposed mess.
Before anyone asks, I am updated to the most recent software, I've tried rebooting the phone, doing a factory reset, shooting in all the different camera modes, and adjusting every camera setting there is - none of it has made the quality anything better than mediocre at best to lousy in general.
Yes, this is my daily driver and no looking back! Cheers
I'd do it again. I still go back and forth with my Note 10+ and S20 Ultra, but this is definitely a more bloat free and smoother experience overall. I don't have the green tint issue or the horrible grey's when the screen is super dim but I do have that trailing shadow line that runs next to the camera. But I hardly notice that so no big deal.
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..... Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage.....
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Your description sounds as if something is defective with the camera, at least it doesn't fit at all to my experience with the 8 Pro camera ! I did a lot of comparisons between the 8 Pro, an P40 Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - with the main camera all of the three are very comparable, with slight advantages to one or the other in some scenarios....
Now images are always subjective in interpretation, but IMHO the 8 Pro is definitely capable of taking very nice shots in all situations and that without much fiddling ....
I'm not sure I would buy it again, mainly because of the price.
The OP8 Pro is a fantastic device but 900 euros is a lot of money.
OnePlus is gonna release in July a device which is way more affordable, I think it's gonna be a better buy (even if it lacks features)
Yeah I would buy again. I have no blind loyalty to any brand but when I apply my "filters" to the huge list of current phones on the market, only this one remained. When I shop for a phone, I look for the right balance of top specs & mod friendliness, features, parts and price. This time around, the balance wasn't quite as good (price/wireless charging/IP68 rating) and a few other, cheaper phones came close to being the top choice for me.
skoobee said:
Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones
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Most people don't have this issue, problems tend to make more noise than benefits.
The benefits I can assure you completely outweigh the bad on a huge scale..
I have zero issues, I've also never had any issues ever reported, on any of my devices since the G1.
The chances of having these reported problems whilst possible remains extremely small..
Seeing one person getting a couple of dodgy devices in a row does not mean everyone else's devices are the same.
My advice, by it from somewhere where they have a quick swap out capability. A shop, a reputable reseller.
So the timeout if your get that unlucky will be minimal.
You'll have this same problem with any of the other devices you ever decide to buy
No, because it is not a big upgrade or difference from my op7p...
Got my one plus 8 pro today. Screen is lovely. Not seen any issues with it but I haven't gone looking as I am using it like a phone and not at minimum brightness etc. But disappointed to see WiFi calling doesn't work on Vodafone UK, just as well I get great signal anyway
I probably would buy again but the no dual-sim is annoying me more as time passes.
How do you mean, no dual SIM?

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