Hey guys
I'm looking at potentially buying a 16gb Nexus 4 and just had some questions regarding its performance.
Gripes I have with my SGS2 running CM10.1:
Texting a bunch of people at once, receving and sending a lot of SMS messages, phone lags considerably
Sending SMS messages, there is usually lag between sending the SMS, and it popping up on the screen
Random UI lag opening apps, closing, etc etc
Does the Nexus 4 have any of these "lag" issues? The whole reason I want to switch is to get rid of all the lag I face which with heavy usage (what I do), is considerable.
I've never seen videos of mass SMS on the Nexus 4 or anyone doing any heavy usage on it so I can't tell myself...
I used one at the store and it seemed quite snappy...just hard to tell without using it a lot. I'm really not looking for gaming performance or anything like that...I only care about day-to-day UI lag which I have on my S2.
I don't want to upgrade for nothing...I know it's considerably better than my S2...but how much better?
Thanks,
Elliott
Two words for you....quad core
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WAY better. The performance is second to none right now. And for the price you can't beat it.
pak-stars said:
Two words for you....quad core
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estallings15 said:
WAY better. The performance is second to none right now. And for the price you can't beat it.
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Thanks guys. Is there still lag while the phone is under heavy load, though? As I mentioned like sending/receiving SMS from 4-5 people at once, etc?
Also any lag while scrolling in Facebook, Tumblr, etc?
Thanks again,
Elliott
Starholdest said:
Thanks guys. Is there still lag while the phone is under heavy load, though? As I mentioned like sending/receiving SMS from 4-5 people at once, etc?
Also any lag while scrolling in Facebook, Tumblr, etc?
Thanks again,
Elliott
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I haven't had any. The only lag I get is the bloody XDA app. I hear that is pretty universal, though.
This phone is one of the fastest phones you can buy on the market and one major reason it is so fast is because it has no custom skins to slow the phone down.
Thanks guys...anyone else?
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Thanks guys...now reading about the battery life I'm a bit put off...
It seems as though even people who have similar routines are getting wildly different battery life from each other...have read good things about Franco's kernel...but even then some people still report like 1.5 hours of SoT...a bit ridiculous but it seems to be all over the board. Obviously it depends how you use it but they don't say heavy usage was involved...no wakelocks.
Worries me coming from an S2 with an extended battery.
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Then don't buy it.
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Then don't buy it.
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Lol...what is your battery life like? How much screen on time specifically? Anyway I didn't really want to turn this into a battery debate so I deleted that post.
Can't go wrong with the N4; absolutely no lag whatsoever and the best Android experience I've had so far, and I've owned (in order) a Droid X, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3 and an HTC One X.
The infamous heat issue is solved pretty easily with a custom kernel, that and the on-screen time you're aiming for
Cool thanks for the reply!
my sot(Wi-Fi & nothing syncing)...
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This is fastest phone!
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I had SGS2 and I switched to Nexus 4..
Using AOKP + custom kernel on it atm.
No lag or at all
Never really had 4 or 5 people sms me at once, but I run multiplies apps and is smooth as butter!
As for battery life, you are not going to get the same amount as you get in S2..I'm I am a light user; I will end up with 65~70% at the end of the day.
Get around 20% per and hour when browsering .. so 5 hours?
And you do get a better/bigger screen.
Thanks guys! QUIETLYloud is that on stock ROM and stock kernel? That's pretty amazing...although what were you doing the whole time?
bobola what kernel are you using?
7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
This phone rocks, I just sold the Note 2 to get this. I like my Nexus 4 better than Note 2. And much better than my two last year phones, the HTC One X international, and Galaxy Nexus.
Battery life is second best next to the Note 2 I had, but is better than the One X and Galaxy Nexus for sure.
I get around 4h On Screen time, sometimes 5h. Also total battery life throughout the day, can range from 10 hours total on super busy workdays, using phone non stop, to 16 - 18 hours on light days.
This phone will not give you 24+ hours battery life with heavy use, no. But its not as bad as many Android phones either. I'd rate the N4 battery life above medium.
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Oh yeah, the size of the Nexus 4 = best.
4.7" is just right to me, not iPhone 5 tiny, but also not outrageously huge like Note 2 I had. Even the Galaxy S4 at 5" will be borderline hard to truly one hand operate with ease.
Please Nexus-Five, no larger than 4.8".
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Thanks guys! QUIETLYloud is that on stock ROM and stock kernel? That's pretty amazing...although what were you doing the whole time?
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I was playing poker(about 2 hours)... downloaded 6 30 minute hd videos(via tube mate)... watched about 4 hours worth hd videos... 1 hr call total... bunch of web(I'm a news hound)... bunch of xda... I'll be testing today without any Wi-Fi
I'm on stock odex'd and matrix kernel v8
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7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
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not true... you get 5 hours completely stock
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7 hours is achievable only by looking at a black screen. 4 hours is more realistic.
By the way this is the fastest phone ever.
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The color of the screen has absolutely no bearing on battery usage on a non-AMOLED handset. AMOLED, sure, each pixel is also it's own light source (black = no light, white = most light). LCD screens with a backlight? No. The only factor there is screen brightness; every pixel is lit from the same light source in LCD no matter what color they are.
Now, if you meant that the phone was doing absolutely nothing but displaying a static image on lowest brightness, that would make a difference. That would make more sense considering that the battery history does show that while the screen was on for extended periods of time the phone itself has very little awake time. Then again, I think the awake time indicator is for wakelocks when the screen is off. Either way, it's a very odd looking battery stats screen.
This phone rocks.
Nexus phones just feel so right to me. Good comfortable size, and the stock OS is just so slim and light, minimalistic, no bullsh!t bloat, no stupid UI's that still use Gingerbread green colors and themes ( looking at you Touchjizz, and Senseless )
I love the front bezel, all black, no branding on it. And this screen looks very nice, once calibrated with custom kernel.
Thing is, Nexus phone are never top spec power beasts, they come out at an odd time for Android releases. Like most high end new Android phones are released in Spring, where Nexus is always Fall. Samsung, HTC, and Sony release their top phones in Spring. So you can look at a Nexus as outdated hardware wise in just a few months after release.
At launch end of year, a Nexus phone is the top spec of that year, but not by much, just slightly best specs. But come 4 to 5 months later they are easily outdone by the next gen phones of the new year.
Saying all that, I still take a Nexus 4 over anything else now. And the Nexus-Five will be best phone of 2013, with Android 5.0 KLP, and Snapdragon 800, with a 3100mAh battery, released this Fall.
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Hello all,
I got my Galaxy Nexus on day of release, so had it some 6 months or so, the other day I bought a Galaxy S III, the following day sold my Galaxy Nexus for 320€ (loss of 300€ in 6 months, can live with that).
Now, I must say while I loved the GN display I was one of those who suffered from the squares when on low brightness. That was my biggest gripe with the GN... Battery life was 2 days on one charge.. stock Android, loved it.
So on to the S3, performance? wow, very nice, in general pretty smooth. Could I tell a massive noticeable improvement over the GN? Not really.
Sound, MUCH MUCH MUCH better on the S3 ...
Build quality seems a tiny bit less than the GN.
I certainly do not like the physical home button on the S3.
Camera and video, on S3 very pleased indeed.
One very annoying bug is that for some reason I've got no DTFM tones in a call... which is a #taxibookingfail for me Had to grab the misses iPhone 4S to ring the damn taxi company in the end. #eggonface
The Samsung widgets etc I think are average. HTC do much nicer ones thats for sure.
I do miss the GN a lot, and stock Android is wonderful.
As I've been using fastboot to install new release ROM's on the GN, find it a pain to flash the S3. I'm on Mac and I wanted to flash the latest EU ROM in the hope it would fix the DTFM issue, but I just can't seem to get it done. Yeah I've grabbed Heimdall, extracted the ROM, blah blah, even looked at CLI flashing, but it's not working. I guess there is no fastboot for the S3. If anyone knows better please do say. Also are there OTA packages for the S3 that can be downloaded and patched via recovery?
Anyway.. all the best guys
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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Toad858 said:
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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So I myself am also making the transition from the gnex to the gs3 and my biggest gripe is the battery on the gnex. In your opinion how much better battery life did you get from the gs3 then you did from the gnex?
I would recommend Mobile ODIN to solve your flashing problem. It lets you download things right to your phone, and it will auto reboot and flash them for you. I grabbed the pro version for 4USD because it auto-downloads any fixes you need.
As far as the Gnex, I am surprised you are not happier moving to your GS3. I had a grey Gnex for about 4 months, and the screen quality, camera, and speaker volume were terrible. I was worried it would be similar on this phone, but all three of those areas seem vastly improved to me.
Galaxy nexus is the best device compared to s3 due to the price, stock ics and on screen navigation
Price is the biggest one for me
I bought galaxy nexus for 27000
S3 price abt 39000
Samsung touch wiz and s voice is a crap.
Except microsd I am happy with the purchase of gnex....
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Toad858 said:
Thank you sir. You just persuaded me to get a gnex. From the google play store, they are only $400 us. It will be a big upgrade from my samsung captivate (carrier branded galaxy s1)
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Don't do it. The screen drains the battery on the GN like there's no tomorrow! Unless you turn the brightness way down...then you can't enjoy the HD screen which defeats the purpose. Also the screen is kind of washed out looking, with everything looking yellowish especially at lower brightness. Also the external speaker on the GN is really low and probably one of the worst I've ever heard on a phone. There's a couple more things but these are my main gripes with the phone. The Screen and speaker are 2 very important features that have to work right on my phone. So I'm selling my basically new GN and getting the GS3 on the 21st.
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So I myself am also making the transition from the gnex to the gs3 and my biggest gripe is the battery on the gnex. In your opinion how much better battery life did you get from the gs3 then you did from the gnex?
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Approximately twice the screen on time in my case, from 3 to almost 6 hours screen in time.
Idle consumption is worse on sgs3 due to possible bug but screen on time is what matters the most.
Overall performance is much better, but battery life was the top reason for me to move to sgs3 from gnex.
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Wow so i should just save up my pennnies and get the s3? I know the verizon gnex battery life sucks but the same can be said about the gsm version?
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Wow so i should just save up my pennnies and get the s3? I know the verizon gnex battery life sucks but the same can be said about the gsm version?
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Yes the battery life on the GSM sucks monkey balls.
I loved my gnex but it had a few small issues. Wifi has short range, the speaker volume was low and the screens colors were more washed out. Overall the Gnex is still solid and one of the best phones I've had. Got love for gnex.
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I'll be getting rid of my g nexus here as well. I get about 4 hours maybe 4.5 of constant screen time. Standby is really good with franco and aokp but those roms and cm well likely be on the s3 regardless so not much reason to stick with the nexus at this point.
I'm just waiting for the second batch. They are likely running full tilt and the manufacturing will tighten up quality wise on the second + runs.
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Approximately twice the screen on time in my case, from 3 to almost 6 hours screen in time.
Idle consumption is worse on sgs3 due to possible bug but screen on time is what matters the most.
Overall performance is much better, but battery life was the top reason for me to move to sgs3 from gnex.
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The fact that you got 3 hours of screen on time amazes me to be honest. I struggle to even get an hour and half and on days that im lucky i get 2. The fact that this thing can get 6 hours screen time wil be heaven to me
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I'm just waiting for the second batch. They are likely running full tilt and the manufacturing will tighten up quality wise on the second + runs.
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Agreed. Now i have to wait a few months...
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Would you not just wait for the next nexus?
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I've just seen so many comments and was shocked by the number ... thought I'd only get one possibly two replies .
Regarding battery life of the GN ... about a month ago I changed network. That made a phenomenal difference in battery life too .... for the better.
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Would you not just wait for the next nexus?
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Trust me man i considered this already. I have no idea what do... Lol. I like waiting a few months after a phone is released to get all the kinks out
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Yes the battery life on the GSM sucks monkey balls.
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What in the world are you people talking about? I get 4 hours screen on time spread out over 40 hours off charger on my gsm gnex. Data on and syncing entire time, 30% brightness.
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Okay guys here is my problem. I got a Play Gnex GSM last month. I have the car dock and pogo landscape dock. The Nexus is my first Android phone. I don't run custom roms and have little interest in modding the device. It is rooted. I play videos and mostly spotify. I was very pissed about the sound volume but have figured that out with Volume+ and finally got the settings I like. As of right now I have no complaints with the phone and love it. I also have the 3800mah and three regular batteries (one original and two qcell non-nfc) so battery issues are not a problem for me. I've never been a hard core gamer on the phone so FPS isn't a concern either. That could change if I got hooked I guess. Also the pogo dock is great. I dock the Nexus and use it as a clock at night. I could do the same with the GS3 but would have to plug a cord in all the time.
To be honest my original intention was to purchase the Nexus then after the GS3 was released give the Nexus to my wife and purchase the GS3. My wife has been using my old iPhone 3g for two years and it's on it's last legs. Not to mention it's jailbroken and Ultrasn0wed for the unlock. It's on 4.01. I'm having second thoughts now. I love the Nexus. On the other hand the GS3 I know is going to be super incredible plus the microsd storage would hold everything I could possibly throw at it. I'm also expecting improved audio from the GS3 as well. I'm okay with the Nexus audio but it doesn't even touch the quality from my two year old iPhone 4.
Should I pass the Nexus on to the wife and get a GS3 or should I wait until the next Google phone comes out and hope it has great specs and pass the Nexus along then? Money isn't that much of a issue at the moment. I already have a 64gb card and plan on selling my iPhone 4 when it's unlocked (as soon as I get the unlock e-mail confirmation from Apple and do a restore, ATT already approved the unlock yesterday). I would be getting the ATT LTE version.
Another option is to use the Nexus and not sell the iPhone but let her use it until the next Google phone comes out then do the rotation.
For those of you that have "upgraded" to the GS3 from the Nexus how many of you would do it again?
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Okay guys here is my problem. I got a Play Gnex GSM last month. I have the car dock and pogo landscape dock. The Nexus is my first Android phone. I don't run custom roms and have little interest in modding the device. It is rooted. I play videos and mostly spotify. I was very pissed about the sound volume but have figured that out with Volume+ and finally got the settings I like. As of right now I have no complaints with the phone and love it. I also have the 3800mah and three regular batteries (one original and two qcell non-nfc) so battery issues are not a problem for me. I've never been a hard core gamer on the phone so FPS isn't a concern either. That could change if I got hooked I guess. Also the pogo dock is great. I dock the Nexus and use it as a clock at night. I could do the same with the GS3 but would have to plug a cord in all the time.
To be honest my original intention was to purchase the Nexus then after the GS3 was released give the Nexus to my wife and purchase the GS3. My wife has been using my old iPhone 3g for two years and it's on it's last legs. Not to mention it's jailbroken and Ultrasn0wed for the unlock. It's on 4.01. I'm having second thoughts now. I love the Nexus. On the other hand the GS3 I know is going to be super incredible plus the microsd storage would hold everything I could possibly throw at it. I'm also expecting improved audio from the GS3 as well. I'm okay with the Nexus audio but it doesn't even touch the quality from my two year old iPhone 4.
Should I pass the Nexus on to the wife and get a GS3 or should I wait until the next Google phone comes out and hope it has great specs and pass the Nexus along then? Money isn't that much of a issue at the moment. I already have a 64gb card and plan on selling my iPhone 4 when it's unlocked (as soon as I get the unlock e-mail confirmation from Apple and do a restore, ATT already approved the unlock yesterday). I would be getting the ATT LTE version.
Another option is to use the Nexus and not sell the iPhone but let her use it until the next Google phone comes out then do the rotation.
For those of you that have "upgraded" to the GS3 from the Nexus how many of you would do it again?
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Dude everybody (or most everybody) in this forum is going to be happy with the change. People in the gnex forum will say the upgrade isn't worth it. Play with an s3 and decide for yourself!
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My nexus was nice to hold but the battery just didnt cut it for me. I bought the white one so the extended battery cover was out of the question for me
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Anything i should know before i buy this phone?
Like any cons/problems?
How's the battery life?
Depends how picky you are. Some people are finding problem everywhere and returning their phones for the smallest reason.
If you check the forum will will find lots of this.
Battery life ...... I had shockingly bad screen on time on the standard kernel so I flashed franco kernel and it seems a little better.
If i didnt leave 3g turned on and didnt actually do anything on the phone i could get 2 days between charges, but if used 3g the battery would go down 10% in 10 mins. But with a different kernel im getting a lot better screen on time.
As for the software its vanilla android and its virtually perfect for me and the phone is blistering fast it does everything i want very fast, also a lot of people where i live dont know what it is especially people with iphones and they are a litttle jealous when they see how fast it is.
A minus though is the phone can get very hot, I men where i live it gets down to -40 and i can use it as a hand warmer I dont know if this is heat dissipation working correctly or some other problem
Im hoping the battery and heating issues can be solved with an update which im sure they will be.
For me buy it its individual i havent seen one anywhere apart from in my pocket any problems and you can just take it straight back )))
Battery life has been fine for me, even on stock kernel (though I'm running a custom one now). As for cons, some people have problems with the phone being a little more fragile, as both front and back are made of glass. YMMV depending on how careful you are / how willing you are to put a case on it.
As far as the heating issue goes, if you flash a custom kernel and UV a bit you should be fine. Also depends on what you use your phone for. 3D gaming will obviously get you higher temps.
OP - you might get some more informative answers if you mention what phone you're coming from and what you're used to or expecting.
Battery life is about the same as any other phone in this category of the Nexus 4's specs.
The heat it gives off I would consider the same as my Galaxy S3.
Only thing that I would tell you is to have a case for it, it has glass on both sides ..I would recommend the Diztronic TPU case.
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im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......
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im running franco kernel with it underclocked and i still get the heat issue. I dont use it for games i have a n7 for that. only normal phone use and stuff like social networks and looking at the browser when on the bus, or when im using 3g when using for example facebook (which i dont think is too demanding on the cpu) it gets damn HOT at the back like i said even when its -40 well maybe -20 on the bus which tbh is very bad becasue then it will condense inside causing water damage.
Im gonna wait till the next update and see if that cures it if not ill have to speak to google i think when im in the uk next month. Im not the kind of person who RMA`s for small things but my battery really is shockingly bad.
But i do agree that this kind of high level hardware is going to hammer batteries it has 4 x the power of my old xperia arc......
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Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I got my nexus 4 just 2 days ago and I have an annoying static noise during calls while using earpiece. Will have to RMA it.
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Out of curiosity, have you checked the binning of your processor (fast, nominal, slow)?
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I havent i will
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I have something to add that I forgot to mention in my first post.
The touch response sensitivity on the Nexus 4 takes a bit getting use to..its a bit "off"
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I've had my nexus 4 since dec 13 it's the first batch.. The only problem I've encountered is back where the camera is It's got a little rattling noise .. Other than that I'm quite happy with my purchase:good:
Got my phone on day one. The issue I have had with the phone is it came with these forums. Best phone I have ever owned other then that. Lol
This phone is absolutely brilliant. I would put it at a 9/10, losing 1 point for the camera.
It's cooler than the SGS3 temperature wise, it's well built, it's super fast and has great battery life. Volumes are loud, earpiece speaker is clear and as loud as a jet engine, the screen is absolutely gorgeous.
On AOKP milestone build 1, with franko kernel, I get around 20 hours standby, and 4.5 hours screen on time with moderate use. Thats with some form of data on permanently apart from at night (standby time includes sleep at night lol)
Once google release good camera software, nexus will take over. Camera is a 6/10 for me.
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I don´t think/feel so. But the other points 100% agree.
I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2
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I'm coming from the HTC Amaze, that has an amazing battery but I'm leaving that phone because of the battery and the reboot problem.
and can you guys give me a little more information on the camera? Like pictures you guys took, and I heard the battery can compete with the Samsung galaxy 2
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Some people in this thread have been discussing camera issues. There are also a bunch of pictures taken by the N4 there. The gist of it is that low light performance may not be up to everyone's standards, but (again) it depends on how picky you are about these things. If it bothers you, you may be able to work around it by using a third-party camera app - there's some debate about whether the problem is hardware- or software-related.
My personal impression is that the camera is good enough for my uses, but then again I'm not a photography buff, so take that opinion with a grain of salt
I could easily recommend this phone to anyone. The battery is what it is, I get 3-4 hours of screen on time. I do have a charger at work and home and in the car, so it's a non-issue for me. The screen is beautiful. The phone is insanely fast. The heat issues I think are non-issues, the back is glass which is a much better conductor, so all that really means is the glass back heats up to cool off the processor, plastic backed phones don't have a huge thermal plate to dissipate heat. I'd call the phone a 9.5/10 especially if you can get it straight from Google for their price. (good luck)
The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.
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The biggest issue this phone has is that no one can get their hands on one.
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So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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charger04 said:
So true. I'm lucky I got mine!
But I love this phone. Battery isn't the best but it is still fine for me. It operates great! I love it!
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I'm still waiting for a good offer...
I'm just buying mine's in the T-mobile store
Hi guys,
I currently own a Galaxy Note N7000, but am planning an upgrade. To the Note 2. Yay!
My Note gets really hot when playing games like Arcane Legends, especially if I plug in the charger (of course). Some times, it gets so hot that the top side of the screen burns my thumb!!! And that even when playing Arcane Legends alone, not charging at the same time!
I wanna know. Are there people who have owned the original Note and switched to the Note 2? If yes... those are the people I want to talk to. They know best how to compare the two.
Never had the N7000 but I can tell you that the N7100 never gets that hot. A little warm yes, hot no.
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Just upgraded to the N7100 and temp wise ot's no different from the N7000...
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I wouldn't say it gets too hot, but if you play the right games it can get toasty. Not too shabby though. Any mobile device these days can get up there in temps. It is the nature of the beast. Getting smaller and more robust and trying to keep the temperature down is all part of the challenge. I wonder how well the a15/mod'ed a9's will run in the next year or two. Eager to see how well Samsung's exynos CPU pairs together with imagination technologies GPU. Exciting times for the android gamers as they might see more games and many of those ported from iOS or more time put into them. I really would like science to take advantage of our smartphone gpu's much like distributed networking on PC's.
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I'm not gonna sit around and wait another year. I'll get the Note 2, as soon as I sell this Note. My alternatives are... the HTC One, which I doubt will shine development-wise, the Xperia Z which has poor speaker performance and cr*ppy screen and the S4, which will also suck development-wise.
Yeah, definetly not gonna sit around to wait for the A15-powered devices.
I hate my Note right now for the following :
- poor battery performance (despite its 2500 mAh battery)
- screen sucks so bad (plus, black clipping)
- overheating like hell
At least the first two are better on the Note 2 . Enough for me to upgrade.
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Never had the N7000 but I can tell you that the N7100 never gets that hot. A little warm yes, hot no.
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If I play Arcane Legends over 3G for half an hour and both CPU cores are clocked at 1.4 GHz (maximum), my left thumb is gonna be prone to burns. No joke.
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Just upgraded to the N7100 and temp wise ot's no different from the N7000...
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Depends on what you're doing on it, I guess. Care to elaborate?
Formhault said:
I'm not gonna sit around and wait another year. I'll get the Note 2, as soon as I sell this Note. My alternatives are... the HTC One, which I doubt will shine development-wise, the Xperia Z which has poor speaker performance and cr*ppy screen and the S4, which will also suck development-wise.
Yeah, definetly not gonna sit around to wait for the A15-powered devices.
I hate my Note right now for the following :
- poor battery performance (despite its 2500 mAh battery)
- screen sucks so bad (plus, black clipping)
- overheating like hell
At least the first two are better on the Note 2 . Enough for me to upgrade.
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I am sure that the HTC One will get great dev development seeing as how that codeworx is getting the device, as for S4, it should also get great development as it is going to be a very popular device and most of the S4's are going to be Qualcomm not Exynos.
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Hi guys,
I currently own a Galaxy Note N7000, but am planning an upgrade. To the Note 2. Yay!
My Note gets really hot when playing games like Arcane Legends, especially if I plug in the charger (of course). Some times, it gets so hot that the top side of the screen burns my thumb!!! And that even when playing Arcane Legends alone, not charging at the same time!
I wanna know. Are there people who have owned the original Note and switched to the Note 2? If yes... those are the people I want to talk to. They know best how to compare the two.
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I had the Note 1 and now have the Note 2 and they are 2 different phones. The cpu on the Note 2 is much more powerfull and battery friendly than the one on the GN1. Temperatures are very good and haven`t experienced any heat issues. Switching over to the GN2 will only bring you advantages.
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I am sure that the HTC One will get great dev development seeing as how that codeworx is getting the device
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He is? That's good to know.
Well, since the One isn't really available everywhere just yet... Guess time will tell wether it will get some love or not.
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as for S4, it should also get great development as it is going to be a very popular device and most of the S4's are going to be Qualcomm not Exynos.
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Oh yeah. At least the Qualcomm variant will definetly receive some love. Too bad Krait 300 is Cortex-A9, not Cortex-A15. But it's powerful enough. Way powerful than the cores in the Note 1, that's for sure.
*reconsidering options*
Won't have enough money for neither the One nor the S4. So, it's gonna be the Note 2. It's a powerful enough little tiny beast, anyway
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I had the Note 1 and now have the Note 2 and they are 2 different phones. The cpu on the Note 2 is much more powerfull and battery friendly than the one on the GN1. Temperatures are very good and haven`t experienced any heat issues. Switching over to the GN2 will only bring you advantages.
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Thank you for your input.
Battery life and power is exactly why I was considering the Note 2. Otherwise I could go for the S3, which has the same ammount of RAM (not really good for long term) and pretty much the same battery life as my Note. Not really worth paying 150 extra bucks for that... Better pay 200 extra bucks for a Note 2 :silly:
The screen is also an important factor for which I am considering the Note 2 over the S3. Screw pentile. RGB for the win!
Also, I know the Note 2 comes with a 2 amp charger. That's awesome! I will be able to play AND charge at the same time :silly:
Just had my N7100 for a few days and running CM @ the moment,...
Internet connection great!
Speakers :thumbup:
Battery :thumbup:
Speed & smoothness :thumbup:
So far I'm feeling good... In fact, better!
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Just had my N7100 for a few days and running CM @ the moment,...
Internet connection great!
Speakers :thumbup:
Battery :thumbup:
Speed & smoothness :thumbup:
So far I'm feeling good... In fact, better!
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How is that related to what is being discussed here?
Well, i had an n7100 which is on my mothers hands right now and i switched to the n7100.
The note 2 NEVER gets hot, like ever.. compared to the note1 which does get considerably hot when gaming.
Rest assured that you wont burn your thumb ever again with newer generation phones. Also, battery life on n7100 is brutal.
eliterox said:
Well, i had an n7100 which is on my mothers hands right now and i switched to the n7100.
The note 2 NEVER gets hot, like ever.. compared to the note1 which does get considerably hot when gaming.
Rest assured that you wont burn your thumb ever again with newer generation phones. Also, battery life on n7100 is brutal.
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I know. :crying:
I might sell it today or tomorrow. Then, Note 2 Titan Gray, here I effing come
And you are welcome here mate!
U will not be dissapointed!
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How is that related to what is being discussed here?
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Sorry, missed the point where I wanted to tell everything it's way better with this device. No heating issues whenever ,.. Wherever , whatsoever ,... The only thing it's missing it's the progress on how Chas is keeping his night lies.
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fr3ker said:
Sorry, missed the point where I wanted to tell everything it's way better with this device. No heating issues whenever ,.. Wherever , whatsoever ,... The only thing it's missing it's the progress on how Chas is keeping his night lies.
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Oh please don't make me crave for Note 2 more...
Note : the b*stard who was supposed to buy my phone today seems to have changed his mind. Hopefully he'll answer 'till tomorrow :/
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Oh please don't make me crave for Note 2 more...
Note : the b*stard who was supposed to buy my phone today seems to have changed his mind. Hopefully he'll answer 'till tomorrow :/
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You should feel the speed, battery consumption and smoothness in the palm of your hands...
I really hope that b4stard buy your phone so you can join us
It's just awesome man!
... Just can't resist
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I did join the Note 2 club last week
I have to admit I was tempted to go for the cold metal beauty of the One, but delayed deliveries to Polish carriers took that option away. And wasn't that impressed by the Z. Not regret it much. That large screen is just beautifull. Who needs FullHD when it's already so sharp and amazing. Seems to be the perfect size too. Well, put it in a case and it gets too big for me. But having the extra screen estate over the lesser phones really is great!
Was initially put off by the horrible look of TouchWiz (have been using CM on my Galaxy S for a long time), but after customizing it a bit (inspired by coldfustion YouTube videos), I'm pretty happy with the results. I now mostly only see the ugliness of TouchWiz during calls and sometimes in the dialer (when it appears from a system call, rather then is brought up manually). Guess I'll proably eventually get rid of that too with a custom ROM, but I'm not in a hurry.
Coming from Galaxy S, I can really appreciate the GPS speed and accuracy. The volume of the loudspeaker is also very nice, even if clarity is nothing to write home about. Browsing and reading/writing e-mails is a real pleasure on this beast!
It does get a bit warm during gaming sessions, but it doesn't seem very hot and I hope its nothing that can cause an actual burn!
The smoothness is not that amazing too me though. I guess partially because I use MultiPicture Live Wallpaper and it always reloads the wallpaper during switching landscape/portrait mode. The default lockscreen was laggy as hell too (tried various fixes suggested here). But I turned that off and am now using the lockscreen from Go Launcher Ex, which is much faster (well, actually that and some icon packs are the only functionalities of that launcher I use... otherwise it's way too laggy, especially compared with Nova). But I'm sure the speed can easily be fixed with a custom ROM.
Just wish I could scale the keyboard down, cause it wastes too much screen estate (using Swype). And Multiwindow... the menus take way too much space... it should scale the content down as well, because as things are, very little actual content is displayed in each window.
^ A little off topic, but just wanted to say that all your wishes can be fulfilled with a rooted stock rom and simplistic and or xposed frameworks, including theming and dpi change, when you're ready for it
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Note : the b*stard who was supposed to buy my phone today seems to have changed his mind. Hopefully he'll answer 'till tomorrow :/
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He probably read on some forum that the Note 1 can burn your finger...
sent on the move from my Note2
So I have been waiting for Google IO to see if there are any updates for the phone itself or a new phone but it seems more and more there won't be anything big, or it may just be an LTE version. I have no need for LTE at this present time.
There is a good deal today on ebay for a Nexus 4 for international shipping and I want to know whether I should go for it or rather wait till after I/O?
Opinions?
Just get it now , its a good phone and it will last you , at least that's how I feel about my nexus . also if the deal is that good , then yeah get it , make sure the imei is clean and there is no problems , have fun ! :thumbup:
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Wait, seriously. If something awesome is released, you'll be kicking yourself in the butt for not being patient
I could easily see a battery upgrade which is the Achilles heel for this phone.
This has always been a problem with phones: not daring to buy a new one because something else, something possibly better, may be coming up. But trust me: the Nexus 4 is a great phone with great specs and still has updates to come for ages. And about the battery life: with the right mods you'll get through 1,5 day.
You won't be disappointed and if you keep on looking towards newer models, then you'll never get yourself a new one.
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it will be a long while before the nexus 4 feels outdated, it is still top end spec for crying out loud.
No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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No and here's why:
Battery performance is lackluster compared to other devices, 3G/HSPA WILL murder even on stanby
New Nexus is obviously close and may have better storage
Camera is mediocre
The SoC has wakelock issues from the USB modem and certain sleep states are broken
No 4K support(may want?)
Development will slow down significantly after next nexus or new Moto X
Lack of stock LTE support
Call quality is terrible even if you manually use AMR
Thermal throttle is difficult to avoid, thing can heat up in basic apps
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Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
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There's nothing better out there in terms of Android software support. Even if you sell it a few months down the road, you'll still get a good price for it since it is a Nexus and it will hold it's value.
This phone is future proofed. Go for it.
-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
galaxys said:
Get it while it's still the hottest device around!
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I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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yes OP! Go try the other phones first, BUT if you want the smoothest phone around with No bloatware, the greatest specs all around with a price no one can beat, you might as well ! Some people say the hype about HTC one is almost at end Aside from the aluminium casing and the specs, nothing else would be exciting.
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I do not agree with this person. Even when I have everything going and a ton of apps sinking in the back ground I get 8 to 12 hours use with around 3.5 hours screen on time with the screen at fifty percent. I have no issues with phone getting hot unless I am using the camera led as a notification tool in lite flow. If I do the normal things like uninstall apps I don't use and sign out of the other apps I get 20 hours easy and about 4 hours screen on time. My normal is 30 hours and 3 hours screen on time
There is little out there that out specs this phone. And being this a clean version of android and doesn't have touch wiz or HTC sense on it my phone seems to blow away even the s4.
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I said the battery was bad relative to other devices, for instance the S3 gets at least 4. And temperature concerns have been mentioned by many others besides myself even on xda, it is not limited to myself.
xanthrax said:
Battery life is as always ...subjective
Google is promoting his cloud storage policy , I agree with it and this is the future ...
This only works if you have fast speeds such as LTE or higher, and unlimited data.
Camera isn't mediocre , is average ...
lack of ... LTE support for a phone which doesn't support it ...
I said the device has no supported LTE, nothing is wrong with that statement. It would make sense for them to support a modern medium
Call quality is is good , not terrible , better then what I've used before ( HTC touch pro , wildfire , HTC HD 2 , s2 and s3 )
I just found it lacking compared to my Sensation, people always complain they can't hear me.
Thermal throttle ... Is present on hard apps and games which doesn't work properly on other devices , on basic apps is normal
What does the device's temperature have to do app compatibility?
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Your post is exaggerated .
The coefficient price/performance is one of the strongest and unbeatable reasons to get this phone
But if an even better device was to be announced the OP would be kicking himself like someone else said. I find the S4 Pro to be a double edged sword, you get A15 like performance but there are actual design issues that Faux has mentioned such as the wakelock for the usb and the sleep states.
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I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
IMO it is very unlikely that we'll see a Nexus 5 in some days, a new version of the Nexus 4 seems much more likely to me. Either way I would wait these 10 days until I/O. But keep in mind that what we will see at I/O will not be available in the stores right away...
bob13bob said:
I can't believe you guys are advocating to not wait 10 days just in case. We don't know for sure whether a nexus 5 will be released. I'm not saying anyone should wait 6 months. Anyone should be hesitant to buy a smartphone that's 6 months old
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Nexus 5 will come later this year, not at Google io
Google always releases Nexus phones q4 of the year
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Thanks for the input guys. Note that I am definitely only going for the Nexus purely because of the price, it's way cheaper than anything else close in aesthetics and performance.
Just wanted to know whether to wait to see if maybe there is an improvement at I/O, which I think I will do.
OK Acer ... I would advice the OP to ignore my post due to " lack of stock English support " ...
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zephiK said:
I don't think it's the hottest device around anymore. HTC and s4 are the hottest devices at the moment in my opinion.
Op if you want it! Get it. We're not here to convince you otherwise because we haven't experienced the other phones. Do your own research and don't get a phone because a community said to get it. All replies to this thread will be biased
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If you want to deal with Touchwiz, Sense or broken AOSP ROMs then sure, the S4 and One are hot devices.
Do you agree?
FinancialWar said:
Do you agree?
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No.
This is the best phone, its fast, the battery is good, have a lot of options, ¿What else do you want?
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This is the best phone, its fast, the battery is good, have a lot of options, ¿What else do you want?
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um 1080p, bigger battery (5000mha +), android 4.2.2...
create ur own phone.. huhu.. im really like note 2
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um 1080p, bigger battery (5000mha +), android 4.2.2...
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coming from an s3, i think the note 2's battery life is perfect. no need to get extra batteries like i did for s3 and realize they didn't really help
The "review" became irrelevant to me when he took 6 seconds to find his settings in the app drawer versus just using the menu key and going to settings (when he was already on the home screen).
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The "review" became irrelevant to me when he took 6 seconds to find his settings in the app drawer versus just using the menu key and going to settings (when he was already on the home screen).
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+1
At the time Note 2 was released, these were killer specs and its still a very functional and modern phone. Full HD display is a buzzword of this time and frankly speaking I dont care about it that much. Note 2's display is sharp enough. Full HD display takes its toll on battery and CPU/GPU too.
Larger battery? Boss this is the first Android phone that I have owned which works without charging for two days with quite heavy use. They way you are saying it, even if they had given 5000 mah battery you would have been saying....bah! Only 5000 mah, it should have been 8000 mah at least
I know the more the better but there has to be an appropriate limit. Note 2 is arguably one of the best phones of its time and it still rocks. Sucks is a word you cannot use in its context.
No offence by the way buddy
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I do not. I did not even bother watching the video completely. For what this phone gives me, nothing, can beat it. Amazing battery life, fast CPU, sharp screen and decent build quality.. And a stylus with a 5.5" display. What more would you need?
"and I mean like it's kind of a... You know gloss, basically... like a... kind of a cheap material."
I stopped there.
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This guy makes plenty of "sucks" videos. Classic video whoring for hits.
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I don't agree. I am using Note 2 from Nov 2012 and this phone gives me everything with best battery life, fast CPU, 5.5" display. Any product or phone, there will always be a positive and negative reviews.. but always need to go through the user opinions..
I think his outlook is a 'glass-half-empty' one.
Glad I don't don't have to spend my time with him... Watching 8:15 minutes of his video made my life seem shorter.
I bought it, used it, owned it, and I liked it everyday I held it, enouff said!!
via Note 2
Ive watched a lot of his videos. He loves note 2 and has a lot of phones he does this type of video of. Although he put me off getting htc one lol
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I had to stop at the point where he says it's slower than his Galaxy S III.
Also I think the plastic thing is old, people still complain about that? If you want an aluminum phone you shouldn't get a Samsung... Why do people even complain about these things after buying a device? Don't they know it's plasticky before they buy it? Does it really come as a surprise?
Yawn..
Note 2 sucks beacause this device has no negative points.
Son of gun.!!!! Its slow then S3 ???? Lol guy talks Bruno the Movie .... epic ...stop smoking Crack weirdoo
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I doubt that you live in this world !
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Odd that he complaint slow exit app when he isn't closing an app. That's not the way to exit. That's just minimizing the app. The proper way is the back key which is common in all Android devices and even in Nokia Symbian phones.
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