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I am wondering if root for Verizon s7 looks like it'll be possible or looks like we are stuck on stock ? I saw some twrp drivers or stuff over in samsung s7 section so figured I'd ask.
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This article posted today doesn't leave much hope.
http://www.xda-developers.com/galax...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
Samsung has been one disappointment after another in the past few years. Might as well replace Touchwiz with IOS since they've paid so much to Apple to be like Apple.
joshw0000 said:
Samsung has been one disappointment after another in the past few years. Might as well replace Touchwiz with IOS since they've paid so much to Apple to be like Apple.
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Yep the iPhone 6s and S7 are exact the same :rolls eyes:
Samsung copied some apple stuff in the beginning, Google copied some Samsung stuff, apple copied sim Google stuff, LG copied dome Samsung stuff, Samsung copied LG stuff? everyone copied everyone. It happens when industries are new.
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Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
pahick said:
Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
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Is there a way to do nandroid backups? That's one of the primary reasons I use root on my S5. Also, I have so many Tasker profiles that use root and Secure Settings. Not interested in abandoning all of these.
pahick said:
Im actually not missing root as much as I thought I would. Admittedly, I like touchwiz, just need less bloat. And the debloater works pretty good so far with my S7. Need to trim a few more, if I can figure them all out. But other than that im not missing much, IMO.
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What debloater are are you referring to? I'd like to slim things down but have only "disabled " the bloat so far.
Working root!?
thrgk said:
I am wondering if root for Verizon s7 looks like it'll be possible or looks like we are stuck on stock ? I saw some twrp drivers or stuff over in samsung s7 section so figured I'd ask.
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Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
mefistofel666 said:
Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
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I don't believe that is something we can do with our Verizon version. I thought we had a different processor.
This is a huge disappointment for me. Can't really live without root and Xposed, but the GS7 was looking like my next phone. Hopefully something is figured out but im not too optimistic.
mefistofel666 said:
Is that true? Has anybody tried that?
http://wccftech.com/how-to-root-galaxy-s7-on-android-6-0-1-marshmallow/
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Not recommended for locked bootloaders, of which all US carrier versions are
The root situation right now is pretty much in Samsung/Verizon's hands. Our Verizon variants have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820, the only root or twrp solutions right now are for exynos. Not only that but our bootloader is locked (currently no official way to unlock like HTC dev equivalent or something) and even worse (for prospects of rooting that is), Samsung utilizes Qualcomms secure boot and dm-verity. So any unsigned images won't be accepted and even if they are, dm-verity would make it so that any changes on the /system partition would boot loop your device. Seems like the only way we'll get root is if Verizon presses on Samsung (like T-Mobile is rumored to be doing) to get some sort of HTC dev type unlock program going.
I had Note 4 on Verizon for a year since release and it never got root. Im pretty sure it's still unrootable device.
I'm guessing this will be the case here.
Maybe there are devs working on this to exploit our phone: http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/22/google-warns-of-android-root-exploit/
Unless this is what we just got the security patch for.
yonith2 said:
Maybe there are devs working on this to exploit our phone: http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/22/google-warns-of-android-root-exploit/
Unless this is what we just got the security patch for.
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As I'm aware that doesn't apply to marshmallow
darker_slayer said:
As I'm aware that doesn't apply to marshmallow
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Correct, we have kernel 3.18.x so it's already patched for us.
tolymatev said:
I had Note 4 on Verizon for a year since release and it never got root. Im pretty sure it's still unrootable device.
I'm guessing this will be the case here.
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I still have my note 4 to this day and there's still no perm root lol. the s7 isn't getting it. don't get your hopes up. plus if you wanna keep using samsung pay, you'll never be able to root. I've stopped caring honestly. no ads with samsung browser and an ad blocker is sweet. if i need mobile Hotspot on my unlimited plan, I'll pop my sim into my old LG g2.
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jayochs said:
I still have my note 4 to this day and there's still no perm root lol. the s7 isn't getting it. don't get your hopes up. plus if you wanna keep using samsung pay, you'll never be able to root. I've stopped caring honestly. no ads with samsung browser and an ad blocker is sweet. if i need mobile Hotspot on my unlimited plan, I'll pop my sim into my old LG g2.
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Foxfi works great with unlimited on S7E.
I'm sure you can always root Verizon version of the GS7 but no doubt you won't be able to flash any rooms on the device (just like in the past). But touchwiz has been slimmed down and a hell of alot less bloatware. Even with my past Verizon phonestore I never really found the need for a new ROM (although it would have sped up the phones quite a bit) but I found that just having root access is perfect, especially now a day's with the higher specs and reliability of Samsung devices. I wonder if SuperSU or KingRoot will work, they are the best one step rooting process without a pc.
crackbaby0219 said:
I'm sure you can always root Verizon version of the GS7 but no doubt you won't be able to flash any rooms on the device (just like in the past).......<snip>....... I wonder if SuperSU or KingRoot will work, they are the best one step rooting process without a pc.
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SuperSU isn't a rooting meathod that works without a custom recovery, so no it won't work.
KingRoot users specific vulnerabilities that have been patched, so no it won't work either.
Error will be impossible without finding a way to get rid of dm-verify, which the only way to do that right now is a repacked kernel, which is not flashable because secure boot prevents unsigned flashing.
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Has anyone try rooting thier tmobile s7 edge with Magisk?
I need root on my phine, but I am also wanting to be able to use android and samsung pay.
Thanks
10507 said:
Has anyone try rooting thier tmobile s7 edge with Magisk?
I need root on my phine, but I am also wanting to be able to use android and samsung pay.
Thanks
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Nope, Magisk requires an unlocked bootloader, won't work with our phone.
DOMF said:
Nope, Magisk requires an unlocked bootloader, won't work with our phone.
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I already knew the answer, but I just wanted to make sure. So is there any way to have root but still be able to use android or samsung pay?
10507 said:
I already knew the answer, but I just wanted to make sure. So is there any way to have root but still be able to use android or samsung pay?
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I think I remember reading in the original root thread that Android pay works. Samsung Pay definitely does not. Never felt the need for either one as I don't find the act of swiping a credit card terribly burdensome.
Yes, but it would be nice to have when you forget your wallet at home.
10507 said:
Yes, but it would be nice to have when you forget your wallet at home.
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*shrug* I think I've forgotten my phone at home more often than my wallet.
10507 said:
Yes, but it would be nice to have when you forget your wallet at home.
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If you can remember to grab your phone, you can remember to grab your wallet too. Better yet keep your phone with your wallet. Lol.
Anything pay will have issues if you have root. You have to choose what is more important to you.
Well, I went into T-Mobile to jump from my S7E to the v20. I had been contemplating for weeks between the v20 & G6. The fact that the v20 had root made me choose that. After making sure they had the v20 in stock I wiped my edge & went down there only to find out the v20 was not eligible for the jump program. So I choose the G6. Nice phone. Feels good in the hand. Already missing root to re-install my backed up apps & getting rid of bloat. So now to find something to get rid of ad's.
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I chose the G6 simply because it was so nice looking, i didnt think the lack of custom roms and that would be an issue but it turns out I do miss it.
Wish i had the knowledge to build them. Funny thing that, something that most people would have no knowledge of relating to phones is so important for us.
Still enjoying it though, KWGT & KLWP keep me entertained enough to make this beautiful screen shine.
LL
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Well, I went into T-Mobile to jump from my S7E to the v20. I had been contemplating for weeks between the v20 & G6. The fact that the v20 had root made me choose that. After making sure they had the v20 in stock I wiped my edge & went down there only to find out the v20 was not eligible for the jump program. So I choose the G6. Nice phone. Feels good in the hand. Already missing root to re-install my backed up apps & getting rid of bloat. So now to find something to get rid of ad's.
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Check out DNS66 ?
Saythis said:
Check out DNS66 ?
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Thanks. Trying it now.
Didn't seem to work well for me.
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Trying adclear now.
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patcal said:
Didn't seem to work well for me.
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Weird, it works for me on my G6.
Did you download this?
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.jak_linux.dns66_14.apk
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Weird, it works for me on my G6.
Did you download this?
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.jak_linux.dns66_14.apk
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Yep. I also tried it through Fdroid's app.
For ad removal on a non rooted phone, take a look at Adguard. Not as good as AdAway imo, but without root things are tougher.
It tacks up a local vpn to act as a conduit to be able to filter. The only downside for me is that a real vpn can't then be used, or I haven't figured out how to make it work; if I need s real vpn I temporarily disable Adguard.
Can't wait for Root. Pretty sure I am not the only one willing to chip in a little to help get it going on ATT.
Yes, we NEED root, but we also have to get some money together for a dev. Take this post to the top! I have $50, anyone willing to match or add to?
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Can't wait for Root. Pretty sure I am not the only one willing to chip in a little to help get it going on ATT.
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You are very positive but how long is At&t note 5 out and no root. Note's are use by government and doughy there will be root.
norbarb said:
You are very positive but how long is At&t note 5 out and no root. Note's are use by government and doughy there will be root.
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I did not know that damn that sucks. Why just not ATT? Other Note 5s had root. But every phone I have had in the last 5 or 6 years has gotten root. My galaxy S2 on boost mobile I had root. My LG G pro on Att with locked bootloader got root. Same with my LG V20. They said oh no the bootloader is locked it will not get root.. It got root. When a phone first comes out everyone starts freaking out about root and someway somehow it gets root. Now you did throw a wrench in the machine about the Note 5 on Att. Hope I am right and we do get it.
jason504 said:
I did not know that damn that sucks. Why just not ATT? Other Note 5s had root. But every phone I have had in the last 5 or 6 years has gotten root. My galaxy S2 on boost mobile I had root. My LG G pro on Att with locked bootloader got root. Same with my LG V20. They said oh no the bootloader is locked it will not get root.. It got root. When a phone first comes out everyone starts freaking out about root and someway somehow it gets root. Now you did throw a wrench in the machine about the Note 5 on Att. Hope I am right and we do get it.
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I hope I'm wrong and we get root on Note 8 like on S8 and S7 versions.
The real problem is that root is not full root. It's always based off the engineering kernel/firmware now (for both the S7 and the S8) and it severely limits the performance of the device.
The S8 can only charge to %80 once it's rooted, it also breaks Netflix, and most of the Samsung apps. Also the bootloader is still locked down tight so there is no way to flash AOSP.
It's really not worth it. There are ways to get almost everything without root now.
ShrekOpher said:
The real problem is that root is not full root. It's always based off the engineering kernel/firmware now (for both the S7 and the S8) and it severely limits the performance of the device.
The S8 can only charge to %80 once it's rooted, it also breaks Netflix, and most of the Samsung apps. Also the bootloader is still locked down tight so there is no way to flash AOSP.
It's really not worth it. There are ways to get almost everything without root now.
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yup, I can deal with no AOSP but not the 80% limitation of battery and breaking of apps.
ShrekOpher said:
It's really not worth it. There are ways to get almost everything without root now.
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Agreed. Practically everything I used to root my phones for can be done now without root. Theming, ad blocking, disabling bloatware, etc... It's great.
The only thing I will miss is Titanium Backup
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The only thing I will miss is Titanium Backup
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Smart switch let's you backup you device to you external SD card. Works almost as good as TB did.
ShrekOpher said:
Smart switch let's you backup you device to you external SD card. Works almost as good as TB did.
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I had to reset my phone the other day and I backed up my phone with Samsung and it did not save any of my settings all it did was put my apps back on my phone with no data for them. Can you do that with switch? Will it save my apps with the data and all?
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I had to reset my phone the other day and I backed up my phone with Samsung and it did not save any of my settings all it did was put my apps back on my phone with no data for them. Can you do that with switch? Will it save my apps with the data and all?
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It saves how your phone is setup, but, no, not data. I think it works fairly well though. I am enjoying the note 8 without root.
suzook said:
It saves how your phone is setup, but, no, not data. I think it works fairly well though. I am enjoying the note 8 without root.
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But to be honest with you how often are you going to need to restore apps when you're not flashing roms..
jason504 said:
The only thing I will miss is Titanium Backup
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Samsung cloud is working almost perfect
Send from edge of Galaxy S8+.
norbarb said:
Samsung cloud is working almost perfect
Send from edge of Galaxy S8+.
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Can you restore app data and launcher settings?
borijess said:
Can you restore app data and launcher settings?
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No
borijess said:
Can you restore app data and launcher settings?
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Well at least it did not work for me
borijess said:
Can you restore app data and launcher settings?
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I just restored my s8+. Most of the app was restore, but not all. I don't know why. Launcher settings are all back include wallpaper. I like how cloud works.
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I just restored my s8+. Most of the app was restore, but not all. I don't know why. Launcher settings are all back include wallpaper. I like how cloud works.
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You have a link to the app?
borijess said:
Can you restore app data and launcher settings?
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Its best not to. Better to just log back in to everything. No old crusty data to cause errors on your new phone flash
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So recently there was an article on XDA about finding a Qualcomm app preinstalled that could be used as a backdoor granting root without unlocking the bootloader. It doesn't clarify whether such an app would work on all Qualcomm chipsets (835) since it's shared by various devices. Thoughts?
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So recently there was an article on XDA about finding a Qualcomm app preinstalled that could be used as a backdoor granting root without unlocking the bootloader. It doesn't clarify whether such an app would work on all Qualcomm chipsets (835) since it's shared by various devices. Thoughts?
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I thought it was just on OnePlus devices...
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I thought it was just on OnePlus devices...
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It was found on a one plus, but if it's a Qualcomm app it's should work on Android in general
Well, you would need the same Qualcomm app software to switch it on, and have to use fastboot to push it to the device. If your goal is to achieve root, you can just push a modified boot image, which is the best way to do it now, to the device. So it would be the same amount of work at best.
I'm definitely not an expert, though...
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That app has to be installed as system. It's useless outside of Oneplus being dumb and leaving it in their image.
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Well, you would need the same Qualcomm app software to switch it on, and have to use fastboot to push it to the device. If your goal is to achieve root, you can just push a modified boot image, which is the best way to do it now, to the device. So it would be the same amount of work at best.
I'm definitely not an expert, though...
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True, but those with VZW pixels whose bootloader can't be unlocked...it seemed plausible. It makes sense though that'd it'd have to be installed as a system app though. But the possibility of root without unlocking.. It came across like finding a 4 leaf clover
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True, but those with VZW pixels whose bootloader can't be unlocked...it seemed plausible. It makes sense though that'd it'd have to be installed as a system app though. But the possibility of root without unlocking.. It came across like finding a 4 leaf clover
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Easier solution, have Verizon replace your device due to burn-in. I did that on Saturday and got my replacement yesterday. Guess what? They sent me a Google Store unlocked device as my replacement.
Nephilim said:
Easier solution, have Verizon replace your device due to burn-in. I did that on Saturday and got my replacement yesterday. Guess what? They sent me a Google Store unlocked device as my replacement.
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There's a thought
Nephilim said:
Easier solution, have Verizon replace your device due to burn-in. I did that on Saturday and got my replacement yesterday. Guess what? They sent me a Google Store unlocked device as my replacement.
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Even better solution... Don't buy a Verizon version. Lol.
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Even better solution... Don't buy a Verizon version. Lol.
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Not all of us can afford or want to spend $1000 flatout on a device. I'm on the edge program and just upgrade every 2 years.
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Easier solution, have Verizon replace your device due to burn-in. I did that on Saturday and got my replacement yesterday. Guess what? They sent me a Google Store unlocked device as my replacement.
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Curious is this just coincidence or is this what they are actually expected/told to do?
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Not all of us can afford or want to spend $1000 flatout on a device. I'm on the edge program and just upgrade every 2 years.
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Google store financing...40$ a month.
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Google store financing...40$ a month.
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Yes, but I still require a service provider and Verizon is the best in my area. I'll look into it when I graduate my next device though.
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Curious is this just coincidence or is this what they are actually expected/told to do?
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I don't think either. I think what's happening is due to Google increasing the warranty by a year and by the announcement of burn-in being possible Google might just be directly handling all the surplus on replacement devices personally.
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Yes, but I still require a service provider and Verizon is the best in my area. I'll look into it when I graduate my next device though.
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I don't think either. I think what's happening is due to Google increasing the warranty by a year and by the announcement of burn-in being possible Google might just be directly handling all the surplus on replacement devices personally.
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I have Verizon and I got the Google store version with financing. You can still use your current service provider, or even bring-your-device to whatever carrier FYI.
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I have Verizon and I got the Google store version with financing. You can still use your current service provider, or even bring-your-device to whatever carrier FYI.
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I'm well aware I can buy the Google Store version. I was pointing out that since I still need a service provider and already have Verizon and am already enrolled into their Edge Program I grabbed the phone through them.
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That app has to be installed as system. It's useless outside of Oneplus being dumb and leaving it in their image.
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Not just system. PRIVILEGED system, and signed with the vendor key. You can't just copy it on, even if you already have root access to the device, because the platform will reject it unless its been signed by the same private key as the platform.