Hello, has anyone installad Android HU to Mondeo 2014 with original Navi.
Can you recommend any? Also interested to know how SW-buttons work with Android HU.
Pictures with Android Hu installed would be nice to see.
masa55 said:
Hello, has anyone installad Android HU to Mondeo 2014 with original Navi.
Can you recommend any? Also interested to know how SW-buttons work with Android HU.
Pictures with Android Hu installed would be nice to see.
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If you can't find a head unit of a known brand you can buy such a frame with harness for your car and a 9 inch head unit separately.
Best start is to search for the pinout description of your current OEM radio. Because this gives you the possibility to validate the connections and to check if your cars SWC is a resistant matrix. Additonally it helps to use an existing reverse camera.
This can be done before you invest money.
If your SWC it is a resistance matrix you can directly connect the head unit and use the learn functionality to map your SWC buttons to different functions.
If you already have a reverse camera and you want to continue to use it you have to connect it by yourself. E.g. by finding a prepared adapter or by creating your own. Here is the description how I realized it for another car - just to give you an idea:
Junsun V1 MTK8259 - the adapter battle (Kia Ceed Jd) / OEM camera usage / reference thread
I bought the Junsun V1 head unit but my Kia Ceed JD had a OEM nav unit which isn't directly compatible to Junsun V1. So I re-wired the wiring harness based on the pins description of my original OEM navigation unit. I'm only modifying the wiring...
forum.xda-developers.com
The head unit sellers estimation is that you start with a stupid radio and so my car, which already had an outdated navigation head unit, was a special case - without a ready to use solution.
And please figure out if you own a Ford Mondeo MK3 or a MK4.
Car is MK4 and as far as I know it has resistant matrix at SWC. I found the same fascia as in picture you sent.
Reason why I wan't to install 9" unit is that I have Junsun V1 Pro from my former car. It would not be very expensive to test how it works, only CanBus decoder and wiring harness needed.
masa55 said:
Car is MK4 and as far as I know it has resistant matrix at SWC. I found the same fascia as in picture you sent.
Reason why I wan't to install 9" unit is that I have Junsun V1 Pro from my former car. It would not be very expensive to test how it works, only CanBus decoder and wiring harness needed.
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If you don't need CAN features even the decoder isn't needed. And it's better to connect resistant matrix bypassing the can box.
TorstenH said:
If you don't need CAN features even the decoder isn't needed. And it's better to connect resistant matrix bypassing the can box.
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But now I see that you air condition has no separate display. As you know, to get this functionality a can box is required.
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Hi,
I'm looking for some info about "carjoying.com/ in-dash-gps-navigation-system/ford-head-units/joying-best-android-4-4-4-kitkat-head-unit-quad-core-1024-600-double-din-7-inch-gps-navigation-system-16-gb-memory-support-steering-wheel-control-wifi-obd-airpaly.html"
My car is Ford Mondeo Mk4 2007 year. In description is stated that this device is compatible with Mondeo 2007-2010. I contacted with Joying and they sad that this device is NOT compatible with my car. I'm confused.
Did someone use joying device in Mondeo MK4?
dtrifonov said:
Hi,
I'm looking for some info about "carjoying.com/ in-dash-gps-navigation-system/ford-head-units/joying-best-android-4-4-4-kitkat-head-unit-quad-core-1024-600-double-din-7-inch-gps-navigation-system-16-gb-memory-support-steering-wheel-control-wifi-obd-airpaly.html"
My car is Ford Mondeo Mk4 2007 year. In description is stated that this device is compatible with Mondeo 2007-2010. I contacted with Joying and they sad that this device is NOT compatible with my car. I'm confused.
Did someone use joying device in Mondeo MK4?
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Hello
because now most of china OEM DVD Player factories can not resolve the ford Convers +problem ,their canbus can not work with the system ,so steering wheel control ,and convers+ information can not display on the dash ,that's why Joying can not support on your car . If you have Ford car ,when you want to buy a new DVD player ,better give a picture of your dashboard to the sellers ,and consult them about convers +
Hi,
I've sent them a picture of my dashboard and they said their device is not compatible with my car.
Obviously I'm going to buy an Eonon unit. Their devices at least have support for steering wheel.
Thank you for the help.
This video seems to be proof that some unit can talk with Converse+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlzYQMlK7w
hypetaxx said:
This video seems to be proof that some unit can talk with Converse+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXlzYQMlK7w
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Resurrect an old thread. Interesting video, we don't know what the unit is or who the supplier is (both of the Canbus and Headunit)? Does anyone know what the current state of affairs is regarding Android 5.1 Headunits and Convers+ ?
sim36 said:
Resurrect an old thread. Interesting video, we don't know what the unit is or who the supplier is (both of the Canbus and Headunit)? Does anyone know what the current state of affairs is regarding Android 5.1 Headunits and Convers+ ?
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I'll second this 'bump' as I too am looking for a solution to get full Convers+ functionality with my Android head unit (Auto-Pumpkin in a Mondeo Mk4) :good:
Seems that the Convers+ issue has not been resolved yet....
on the Joying page there is a blog that clearly states:
And you can installed our Ford Special Car Radio directly in your Ford II (2008-2012), Mondeo (2007-2011), S-MAX (2008-2010). But all of our Android Car Radio cannot support the Ford Converse+ system.
I have seen youtube videos that show otherwise.
So what does support really mean in this case?
Bonairian said:
Seems that the Convers+ issue has not been resolved yet....
on the Joying page there is a blog that clearly states:
And you can installed our Ford Special Car Radio directly in your Ford II (2008-2012), Mondeo (2007-2011), S-MAX (2008-2010). But all of our Android Car Radio cannot support the Ford Converse+ system.
I have seen youtube videos that show otherwise.
So what does support really mean in this case?
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I have found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXXcxf1RFqk
The pre-facelift convers+ works with kitkat 4.4.4.
still says no convers+ ( i dont even know what that is), but I know there is a new 2GB unit for the Mondeo:
https://www.carjoying.com/new-andro...lollipop-gps-navigation-fm-am-rds-easy-c.html
I got Xtrons pf75fsfa 5.1 unit for my Mondeo mk4 2008. It works with steering wheel buttons, but not with display (i have small display, not converse).
The unit is working surpringsly well - radio reception is good, gps is fast, sound is much better than the oem cd6000.
I have some wishes for the software, but for now is perfect.
imitev said:
I got Xtrons pf75fsfa 5.1 unit for my Mondeo mk4 2008. It works with steering wheel buttons, but not with display (i have small display, not converse).
The unit is working surpringsly well - radio reception is good, gps is fast, sound is much better than the oem cd6000.
I have some wishes for the software, but for now is perfect.
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What about phone control buttons?
My phone cotrol stalk not responding. Buttons are death. Only volume buttons, M-button and forward-backward buttons work.
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I haven't phone buttons.
Do you have CANBus box?
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I haven't phone buttons.
Do you have CANBus box?
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Yes. I have canbus box attached to the HU wiring. But phone buttons are not recognized.
No idea where is the problem.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mond...763400?hash=item28204f5b08:g:ZUYAAOSw-0xYehSK this HU I bought
this buttons doesnt work: http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/1LEAAOSwCU1Yq~YI/s-l225.jpg
I think that canbus box doesn't interpret them and they won't work.
gtracz said:
Yes. I have canbus box attached to the HU wiring. But phone buttons are not recognized.
No idea where is the problem.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Mond...763400?hash=item28204f5b08:g:ZUYAAOSw-0xYehSK this HU I bought
this buttons doesnt work: http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/1LEAAOSwCU1Yq~YI/s-l225.jpg
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I have the same problem with my head unit. The phone controls does not work. The volume buttons works. Is it possible with BOSION can bus will have a result? Does anyone have the BOSION can bus diagram for CAN-TX / RX?
Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
Aside from this being mostly BS, these vendors are absolutely adamant of not wanting to sell individual of these decoders - which for Chinese vendors is curious, to say the least, to turn down any opportunity to make a buck.
Either way, despite all of them claiming to manufacture their own, we know that is BS -- these vendors buy products from actual manufacturers, repackage them, and sell them.
Try as I might (Alibaba, aliexpress, globalSources) I have not been able to find a manufacturer that produces just these boxes.
Does anyone around here have any leads?
MacConsult said:
Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
Aside from this being mostly BS, these vendors are absolutely adamant of not wanting to sell individual of these decoders - which for Chinese vendors is curious, to say the least, to turn down any opportunity to make a buck.
Either way, despite all of them claiming to manufacture their own, we know that is BS -- these vendors buy products from actual manufacturers, repackage them, and sell them.
Try as I might (Alibaba, aliexpress, globalSources) I have not been able to find a manufacturer that produces just these boxes.
Does anyone around here have any leads?
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To add more to that.
My previous unit an Witson 3066/1Gb ram has an CAN decoder that worked fine for my Ford but the Joying ones work only 85% fine meaning the PREV and NEXT buttons were reversed and that was a pain to use since all my life when I push the NEXT button I expect to hear the next song not the previous one.
Anyway, although I was struggling to correct the Joying CAN mistake I could not because I did not find any way that I could reflash the CAN box. Joying said that the CAN might not be 100% compatible with my car although it should be.
Even if the old CAN box from my former Witson unit was looking exactly the same and the wire socket was exactly the same as the Joying one, the wiring was completely different, different wiring location on the socket, different wire colours. The internals of the CAN boxes looked almost the same but I did not had the courage to test the Witson one on the Joying afraid that I would damage the headunit or more importantly the car...
What I did in the end was to directly connect the resistive buttons of the steering wheel directly to the unit (bypassing the CAN) and program them via the unit software and let the CAN box to decode the other stuff like putting the car in reverse, turning on the lights, feeding +12V to the unit when I start the car.
What I learned is that CAN box is a black box... if it's not working it's almost impossible to find a fix of any kind... or buy a working replacement...
That appears to mirror my initial impression, albeit I feel that different vendors use different providers for these CANboxes and hence that a different CANbox should be able to do the job another can't.
Example, on my XTRONS unit, the steering wheel controls didn't work at all - albeit reverse detection and lights worked well. Unlike my prior box (from 'alec-power' where everything worked (except the radio didn't produce any sound - a slight issue. They took it back and refunded me). Now, XTRONS had me send back the CANbus box, and promised to send another as soon as they have stock again. (1-2 weeks), but they also confirmed that their e39/e46 (BMW) decoder is the same as the one for e53.
What we really need is to figure out how these CANbus boxes work, and ideally how to program them (if that is possible -- which it ought to be).
That's what I was attempting to kick-start with this thread.
Bummer, so no one has any information on these CANbus decoders?
MacConsult said:
Bummer, so no one has any information on these CANbus decoders?
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Your best bet is to try a different car in the canbus setting in factory settings. I had that problem on my ford focus I set the canbus for it and it didn't work right with the steering wheel so went through them all to find that the ford Mondeo rise settings worked and fixed that problem for me.
Where can i buy new canbus gor ownice c500? I send mail to manufacturer but no answer
pcmender2005 said:
Your best bet is to try a different car in the canbus setting in factory settings. I had that problem on my ford focus I set the canbus for it and it didn't work right with the steering wheel so went through them all to find that the ford Mondeo rise settings worked and fixed that problem for me.
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Turned out, in my case, that the proper setting was "NONE" in the CANbus settings, and suddenly everything worked.
Chinese engineering....
If you need a canbus box, your best bet would be to go with a more mainstream manufacturer, like axxess/metra. Their units can tie back into the car radio using the SWI1/2 wires.
Any update on this?
Just reviving an old thread looking for answers
I also think there is a problem with my bmw e39 can-bus box i am using with Xtrons PQ7939BIP. When i connect the can-bus box, the red (terminal R) and the yellow (battery + terminal 30) become "shorted" and they should not "touch" each other. This way, i have to connect the yellow and the red wires from the android unit to the violet/white wire from my car (terminal R - accesory) and leave the terminal 30 (hot all time) wire from the car disconnected so that the xtrons unit shuts down when i put the ignition switch in position 0 or when i pull out the key from the ignition switch.
Is this normal or is my can-bus box bad?
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bogdan wst said:
I also think there is a problem with my bmw e39 can-bus box i am using with Xtrons PQ7939BIP. When i connect the can-bus box, the red (terminal R) and the yellow (battery + terminal 30) become "shorted" and they should not "touch" each other. This way, i have to connect the yellow and the red wires from the android unit to the violet/white wire from my car (terminal R - accesory) and leave the terminal 30 (hot all time) wire from the car disconnected so that the xtrons unit shuts down when i put the ignition switch in position 0 or when i pull out the key from the ignition switch.
Is this normal or is my can-bus box bad?
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You can connect the red wire to any wire on your bmw that has 12 volts with the key on RUN or ACCESSORY, but the yellow wire needs to have 12 volts all the time.
MacConsult said:
Most of the Android ChinaRadios come with some sort of CANbus decoder (or so they are labeled) to provide steering wheel controls, backup support, etc... Every single vendor will only sell you a CANbus decoder that they 'manufacture' for their units - claiming that any other combination of decoder/radio will not work.
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Every PX5 and PX head unit can work with a canbus decoder from different manufacturers. You have to go to Android Settings > Car settings > Factory settings (password: 126) > Canbus tab > Select the manufacturer of your canbus decoder and the car model.
I have a PX5 head unit with a canbus decoder from "Simple", and when it broke, I replaced it with "Raise" and it works.
I recommend to review the list of supported canbus decoders in your head unit in the Factory settings, before purchasing a new one. You may need also to buy a new wire harness if you don't have a plug for the canbus decoder.
piotrmocko said:
Every PX5 and PX head unit can work with a canbus decoder from different manufacturers. You have to go to Android Settings > Car settings > Factory settings (password: 126) > Canbus tab > Select the manufacturer of your canbus decoder and the car model.
I have a PX5 head unit with a canbus decoder from "Simple", and when it broke, I replaced it with "Raise" and it works.
I recommend to review the list of supported canbus decoders in your head unit in the Factory settings, before purchasing a new one. You may need also to buy a new wire harness if you don't have a plug for the canbus decoder.
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Hi,
I also have PX unit (PX6) with Simple soft CANBUS and I get more options when I chose raise like air-conditioning info on my PX6 unit. I have Honda civic 2016 and the only thing that is not working is the car clock not syncing through the CANBUS from my Dasaita PX6 unit. which is a bummer.
I am very curious about the Can Box options as when looking to buy a unit for my '18 WRX with HK Audio I found the IDoing selling them with support for the HK and was surprised as Crutchfield and Meastro just added support for this setup and I was about to order their harness and box to wire in a Kenwood unit I have in my old car.
When I found the IDoing(FYT) I figured all the other better know sellers should have had same option so I emailed Joying as I couldn't find option from them and they responded that they didn't have a solution. SYGAV does claim to have one but but it's nearly double cost and all the WRX reviews said it was hit or miss if it worked.
I bought the IDoing unit and it was plug and play and works great(with one exception)
If these are all the same HU and CanBus hardware, why the variances? Just programming by the seller or are they all buying from different MFR?
Before ordering I tried to order a harness and canbus from IDoing and the unit from Joying, Joying wouldn't sell me the HU because I had mentioned I had HK Audio and IDoing Flat out refused to sell me a canbus and harness without proof I had bought a HU from them.
That said the Unit works very well and the only issue with the Canbus is that it can't control the rear speaker separate from the front(no fade).
Someone earlier mentioned buying a maestro, has anyone ever connected one of these chinese units to a maestro box?
Just so everyone knows
I managed to add canbus functionality to my xtrons unit even though they said it’s not compatible
I bought a harness for my car with the correct decoder and chopped it to fit the pin outs of my head unit.
works like a dream.
If anyone needs advice I am always available
what car and what harness? You bought a canbus and harness from another "seller" and made it fit? Or you bought something aftermarket like Maestro?
gottahavit said:
what car and what harness? You bought a canbus and harness from another "seller" and made it fit? Or you bought something aftermarket like Maestro?
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Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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This is the harness I bought
Sdpuk2020 said:
Peugeot 207.
bought harness with decoder from feedo seller.
chopped off the connector and soldered it to my hu connector
are you looking to do same?
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What are you looking to do?
Sorry I was hoping you had found a way to make a maestro or other idatalink module work.
Hi everyone, I’m new to this forum. I know a bit about Volvo (the older ones!), and Volvo head units, but not about Chinese Android head units.
I’m considering replacing the aging head unit of my (also aging!) 2002 Volvo V70. The head unit is a simple HU 603, so no Dolby, center speaker or extra amplifier. I’m looking at Xtrons TA702P (quad core) or TB706PL (octa core). I prefer a 7 inch touch screen, no knobs, no DVD. But navi should be good, as would radio. Music I can play through usb. And my Elephone S7 (Android 7.1) phone should mirror on the unit if possible.
Other functions like back up camera or steering wheel control are not important to me.
I know how to take the HU 603 out. I know I need an adapter harness to connect with the new unit. And a fascia adapter. All that is available.
My questions:
Xtrons has many car/model specific head units (not for Volvo). They have Canbus decoders supplied with the unit. Not so for the TA702P or the TB706PL. Will that give problems? (The answer from the ebay seller is somewhat useless: ‘Both the TB706PL and the TL702P does not come with the canbus so that you just ignore it.’) Anyone has experience with this?
How are user experiences with these modern Xtrons units? I know, ‘you get what you pay for’, I know that. But still, worth the money?
Units from Kenwood or Pioneer are other options, but again, is it worth it?
Thanks!
Hi there
I own and drive a V70 from 2006. I have replaced the original HU with a SONY 2 DIN unit (XAV-V630BT). This unit has great sound. I also swapped the speakers to JBL. It is totally worth it.
I have a CANbus to resistor unit. This makes it possible to use the steering wheel buttons.
Right now i am testing a Android HU. Unfortunately i have bought the wrong one. The unit is full of bad design choices. The sound integration in the unit is bad. I think that radio, BLUETOOTH and AUX sound runs directly to the sound processor. This means that when the Android unit plays a sound, the sound from the other units are turned off. In my opinion the other source should just fade a little.
jacobwind said:
Hi there
As said, I don't need steering wheel controls, my steering wheel doesn't even have the buttons. Must have been a cheapskate first owner!
Does this mean the Canbus only affects steering wheel control? So ignoring Canbus (no resistor as in your case), will give no problems?
And yes, by now I've found out Android units may not have the best sound quality. Or radio reception.
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Hi, could anyone tell me if the xtron range units themselves are kinda generic? ie the main units are the same, only car brand fascia and iso harness supplied the differences? ive just aquired very cheap SUZUKI Android 9.0 Car Stereo with DSP (PST99SZK) unit, and looking at it it seems it can be unscrewed and removed from its suzuki specific facia, so my question is are the pinouts on the connections at the back on the different units the same, or are they different, and could i use this unit in my vehicle (2007 audi TT 8J) using this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004539995254.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.41681802yBnZsH
also is there custom rom that would be able to be flashed to this device?
Hal9k possible ???
I have a Subaru Forester Limited with the Harmon Kardon audio system that came stock with the car.
I'm looking to upgrade to something that will provide Android Auto and Apple Carplay without needing to plug in the phone. I'm currently leaning towards Idoing but am open to any suggestions you all might have.
I don't have much experience when it comes tinkering with electronics or cars, so I figured one of these all one solutions would make it the easiest for me. This way I'm not going to be splicing any wires and it will all be plug and play (I hope).
I've reached out to Idoing because I'm not exactly sure which model I would even pick. These are the ones that seem to fit my vehicle, but I'm not 100% sure.
Idoing 9"Android Head Unit For Subaru WRX STI XV Forester 2016-2021 Car Autoradio Multimedia Video Player Navigation Stereo GPS
Idoing 9"2.5D QLED Car Android Radio GPS Multimedia Player Head Unit 4G+64G For Subaru WRX Forester 2016-2020 Navigation NO 2DIN
Idoing 9"Car Android Radio GPS Multimedia Player IPS 2.5D For Subaru Forester 2016-2018 4G+64G 8 Core Navigation Zlink Head Unit
So am I looking the wrong direction? Is there a brand that I'm overlooking that would be better for me to get?
Thanks.
Ask seller to provide screenshots of Android System information, including MCU. With that you could know what is being offered and then research the forums.
You probably want a UIS7862 FYT based uint.
marchnz said:
Ask seller to provide screenshots of Android System information, including MCU. With that you could know what is being offered and then research the forums.
You probably want a UIS7862 FYT based uint.
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Thank you! I'm going to add that to my list of questions for them.