There are many questions being asked in various threads about NFC so lets stick all NFC enquiries into one thread.
What do we know so far?
From the UK model's there are no signs of NFC, however the Korean version does. Why is this?
The Korean service is provided KT, based on NFC phones and SIM cards.
"In Korea, there were 2~3 smartphones that embedded NFC including Nexus S. But in the problem of blocking SWP between USIM and NFC chipset, Nexus S is not that well promoted as the NFC phone. So Galaxy S2 may be accepted as the first NFC phone by consumers. And if iPhone 5 doesn’t embed NFC, Galaxy S2 is very important for carriers and card companies to want to drive the NFC payment.
Among active movements around the NFC business such as Korea Communication Commission’s ‘Grand NFC Korea Alliance, infrastructure is rising as the key issue to activate the market. And it’s a good opportunity for carriers to distribute Galaxy S2 which is designed for SIM-based SE.
After the launch of Galaxy S2, Samsung will adopt NFC in most of its smartphone line-up."
Which brings us to the UK version, from many sources on the web, Samsung is keen to blow NFC up big in the UK, they are planning to work with Visa for the Olympics:
http://www.nearfieldcommunicationsw...ing-nfc-payments-to-the-london-2012-olympics/
So that states from 2012 onwards, starting in the UK then Europe.
Mastercard and orange are working together to bring out a NFC phone, which will be the Samsung Wave 578:
http://www.whatmobile.net/2011/02/samsung-wave-578-gets-nfc-addition/
Not sure if Mastercard or Barclaycard, however these will be all based on SIM BASED NFC. A high capacity sim card replacing the standard sim cards.
Going back to 2010, Samsung trialling out Sim based NFC:
http://www.mobilemarketingmagazine.com/content/sim-based-nfc-payments-pilot-runs-mwc
Now Samsung is jumping on board the NFC bandwagon, as Mobile Business Briefing reports, with news that the company will be working with Visa to produce a branded Olympics handset featuring contactless mobile payments.
The phone will use a Visa enabled sim card to facilitate purchases from retailers with the necessary contactless technology. Some 60,000 retail outlets in London will apparently be set to accept NFC payments by the time the games rolls around in 2012.
The only question which remains is what network operator Samsung is going to get on board with…
So after all that, we may have to wait until next year maybe in the UK for a specific NFC based phone which will allow the new sims. The UK S2 in that sense will most likely not have NFC as we are not ready for it just yet.
Maybe we will see a NFC version in the near future or the Samsung Galaxy S3 rumoured for end year will house this once UK carriers have piloted their NFC tests!
Oddly phones4u who are the only uk store to actually have some in the warehouse go out their way to state it houses nfc to use you phone as a credit card. I'm starting to think it might vary from shop to shop. This could be confusing!
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I think they all procure physical devices from same source.
But different shops grab specs from different Samsung web site
Or may be everyone is lucky, that metal frame around the camera lens IS the NFC antenna, and all this phone needs is a software upgrade to enable NFC functionality
I think it's pretty poor of Samsung not to be totally transparent about who is getting what varient and when.. i.e. Exynos/Tegra, Super AMOLED+/LCD, NFC/Non NFC, 16GB/32GB...
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
God its bad, Samsung should have cleared what region is getting what, Clove and expansys said repeatedly to me that NFC will there...
Its bad marketing by Samsung..Misrepresentation under English Law sue-able offense.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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Beards said:
Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I think all early versions of the phone will not have NFC then... I hoped the german version would be an exeption, but I belive it is the same physical batch because it comes similar early to the market.
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Clove have just released a blog stating the UK SGSII will NOT be shipping with NFC.
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I actually asked them to verify that with Samsung since all the review said NFC were missing. They got back to me last night before posting the blog to confirm that there won't be NFC. I don't know why Samsung never told them that before or why they never verified this with the rest of the specs to begin with...
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I know.... You can also read a small bit about NFC here not impressed.
well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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well according the the official samsung galaxy s2 specification webpage it says that the thickness is 8.49mm. Also under the NFC specs there was a line saying that with phones with the NFC chip, the thickness would vary. Now the korean version is launched and its with NFC chip, and indeed in the official samsungtomorrow korean site ( here http://samsungtomorrow.com/1145) the thickness is given as 8.89mm. So I guess we can safely assume that galaxy s2's with 8.89 mm thickness are the ones with nfc chip. So Before its launched in your region if you find 8.49mm thickness under the specs sheet that consider its without nfc.
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Yes, I lived in korea. And we think 0.5mm differrence is our Korea galaxy S2 model(SHW-M250S/M250K) embedded TDMB module.
(if you learn about TDMB, please refer follow link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Multimedia_Broadcasting)
usually most of korea cellphone embedded TDMB module and,
as a result, phone thicker then non-dmb embedded phone.
So our korean think Korea galaxy S2 is thicker then EU galaxy S2.
Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
I have repeatedly asked Expansys to recheck and confirm that what ever specs are mentioned on your webpage will be present in my phone when they ship.. They said yes, It will be same phone (specs) as mentioned on the web.. Lets see
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Expansys told me yesterday that their stock has the NFC chip... I even asked the guy to double check etc. and mentioned what everyone had been saying on forums. If it arrives without the NFC chip (which it probably will) I am going to kick up a fuss.
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NFC
I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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I got mine from P4U yesterday and I can not find any sign of an NFC chip. Nothing comes up in the hardware profile and there is no app to define credit card information etc.
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Thanks... It is now 100% confirmed Samsung did not release the SGS II on the UK market with the chip.
Bloody annoying what!
Samsung make great hardware but their marketing, advertising & P.R need to be taken down a peg or two.
Samsung UK must have known all along the current UK SGS II would not have the chip, so why was it not mentioned as such.
You simply can not advertise something when clearly it is not.
It is a clear case of false advertising. Absolutely everything I read prior to purchase said it had nfc. I didn't see even the slightest speculation that it was not going to be included.
I'm not too bothered though. In reality, I have no use for nfc just yet - and I can't see me keeping this phone for more than a year (not the phone's fault, I just like to stay fairly current).
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I just now made a request (tweet) to samsung india twitter account:
Please take ur time in getting the sgs2 to India, but please include the NFC Chip, we really want a future ready device.
I request all indian xda members to do the same.
heres the link: http://twitter.com/#!/samsung_mobiles
Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
I can't see how or why they would make to models, where is the money in that, i only see unhappy costumer.
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Can anyone tell me how to verify before buying if a particular Galaxy S2 has built in NFC chip? Will it say on the box? usually sellers have sealed package. Do I have to remove the battery cover for physical evidence or literally measure the thickness? Also, how to verify the variants of LCD/AMOLED and CPUs?
I'll greatly appreciate if anyone has any info on this, it's my major concern. I hate it when I pay top dollars and find that my boss or colleague has the same phone with better cpu and extra feature.
Cheers in advance.
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Exactly the question I had in my mind.
Would really appreciate if someone can really come up with a concrete answer.
Maybe if some SGS II users from korean market join us here then they would be able to tell us how to identify a NFC/non NFC enabled SGS II or where does it really shows up or mentioned.
Thanks.
I live in China and was considering getting a smart watch here as they are relatively cheap and have begun to make a wider appearance across major internet retailers recently. So I was wondering if anyone here has experience with any Chinese brands and could give me some tips.
I have been looking at the Otium Gear Smart Watch (which can be found on Amazon) as it seems it do well enough for my basic expectations of such a new sort of device (and it is pretty cheap here). I like the idea of the SIM card slot and the camera, mostly as novelties, Bluetooth is good for listening to music wirelessly and general phone connectivity, and I assume I could put my own apps on here, as the real reason I want this is for some mini game emulation on my subway commute.
So if any of you could offer some advice, product reviews or any other information, I would greatly appreciate your help.
I got one from amazon. I have been used these for couple of months. so far so good.
Hello
I've looked all over the net and can't find answers to these questions. Maybe someone can help?
1) are there any standalone smartwatches that use sim cards? i want to be able to use whatsapp and get sports scores without needing a phone.
some smartwatches seem to have gps but not Internet, Internet but no appstore etc. very confusing.
sony smartwatch 3 was perfect if it had a sim slot.
only found Samsung gear s and lg urbane 2 that have sim slots. Samsung gear s sold out and runs tizen, and lg urbane is ridiculously priced at apple customers level.
2) are there any chinese smartwatches running Android that can do the above? that i don't know of?
3) are there any chinese smartwatchs running Android that can be flashed to run android wear?
4) i saw these articles last year of a $49 realtek chip mt2601 smartwatch running Android 4.4 on it, but can't find it being sold anywhere even a year later?
thanks
Why do only two watches have NFC ?
Little worried if anything happened to my LG Sport, at this point the watch is hard to find for sale online.
The Huawei Watch 2 the other watch I was not crazy about the small screen and I do not know how long Best Buy will carry it.
No NFC = No Android Pay, something I use everyday.
Hopefully in the 2018 trade-shows somebody announces something
Well the wear24 has the hardware, but Verizon did not enable it
There are a few others but two are expensive, Movado Connect and Tag Heuer. The third is the LG Urbane 2nd Edition, my watch for the last couple of years. Still not very many choices. I use Android Pay all the time and if my watch broke I'd have to settle for getting the same model refurbished/used. Not sure why it isn't standard at this point for new watches.
Hello all,
I've been trying to find a good Android head unit, and have run into a few wrinkles. Know how deep people on this forum dive into Android gear, I figured you guys would have the best first hand/technical experience!
There is a size limitation to start. The opening for my double din is:
7.15" x 4.44" (or ~181 x 112.7mm). So it can be slightly bigger as long as all the controls/screen can fit in that space.
On reviews I've read on other forums or sellers, people talk about the Joying dying out or having hardware failures of different types in less than 2 years, and struggling with RMAs. Pumpkin issues seem to be less? So any recommendations on a brand that would have a unit in the size I need would be greatly appreciated!
The other trick is finding a 4G dongle that will work with Android (I've found some where people have managed to shoehorn them, and some that have never worked). The dongle would need to be compatible with AT&T OR Verizon (those are the two wireless carriers in my area of the US with the best coverage, I'm happy to get a plan with either one). The issue is, while AT&T offers a dongle, they say clearly "Windows Only".
I'd rather avoid hotspotting to my phone, or relying on downloading chunks of maps from my wifi in my driveway.
Thanks everyone!