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[Q] Chinese Brand Smartwatches

I live in China and was considering getting a smart watch here as they are relatively cheap and have begun to make a wider appearance across major internet retailers recently. So I was wondering if anyone here has experience with any Chinese brands and could give me some tips.
I have been looking at the Otium Gear Smart Watch (which can be found on Amazon) as it seems it do well enough for my basic expectations of such a new sort of device (and it is pretty cheap here). I like the idea of the SIM card slot and the camera, mostly as novelties, Bluetooth is good for listening to music wirelessly and general phone connectivity, and I assume I could put my own apps on here, as the real reason I want this is for some mini game emulation on my subway commute.
So if any of you could offer some advice, product reviews or any other information, I would greatly appreciate your help.

I got one from amazon. I have been used these for couple of months. so far so good.

Which one to pick?

Hi,
it seems to be my first post on this forum.
The question is obvious: which model will suite my requirements? There's a lot of them and I'm simply lost
First: price lvl: up to $250
Other: 2 DIN, full BT (I'd like to use the screen as additional gauges showing data from my car ECU), DVD/CD, WIFI, GPS, 3/4G. Rootability always well seen.
Where am I supposed to look for it? Does anyone have his/her favourites Android headunits meeting my expectations?
Thanks

You can have a look at this website.

Pumpkin 11-C0255: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-Android-Support-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B018I6XSSS/

No DVD in this pumpkin. Pity.

I regret going with Pumkin over Joying.
I cannot tell you how many infuriating conversations I've had with their so-called "support". I am actually considering tearing it apart and putting a Raspberry Pi 2 in the unit.

$250 for a DVD unit? Unless you want a dual core, 6.25" screen unit used I think you are going to be very disappointed with what you get.
My Joying quad core, 7", non DVD unit was $300. Their customer support and warranty are excellent.
You can convert your dvds to mp4 and play them on whatever HU you do go with. A better option IMO because you don't have to deal with skipping or pause delays.
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Or download the free VLC app and then you can play any format on you HU (mp4, ISO, etc).
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zzEvilGeniuszz said:
I regret going with Pumkin over Joying.
I cannot tell you how many infuriating conversations I've had with their so-called "support". I am actually considering tearing it apart and putting a Raspberry Pi 2 in the unit.
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Is the support lack of technical knowledge or experience or what?

u.r.rible said:
Is the support lack of technical knowledge or experience or what?
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Well... it was a issue of incompetence more than anything. They tried to rip me off. I ordered 2 microphones and only one was shipped. They claimed I only ordered one. So I showed them a screenshot and proof that I ordered two of them. I felt they should have known this from their end but they didn't. It took me showing them my order for them to believe me. They offered to send me another or refund. I chose refund and it never came. Then... when inquiring about rooting they did not help me and said rooting the unit was forbidden on the head units. I told them they have no control over what I do with my unit. They still did not assist me. Then... I couldn't get the USB dash cam to work and again, they were absolutely zero help. Offering me no assistance in fixing it. Then I decided I wanted to return the stereo and replace it with a different model and I was told that I could do that if i paid the difference which was fine. However they chastized me that I should have checked what kind of unit fit my car before I bought it. Told them it was universal unit so I didn't need to. Never heard back from them after that. At that point I was finished with them. I Craigslisted the stereo and was done.
Like I said.... I should have gone with Joying.

There are a few on Amazon for around $250 but, it seems the better models are closer to $300. Keep in mind that you might end up spending $50 on the accessories you need with some of the models so you need to weigh the price with what it comes with. A lot of people talk about cameras that are included with some not being very good so keep that in mind.
Personally, I've been holding out for a model with a little more ram. I haven't found a single model with more than 1GB of ram. I'd spend $500+ for a model with a modern processor and a decent amount of ram. I've heard ranges of startup times for different models being 30-50 seconds. I imagine there are a lot of factors including people adding lots of unnecessary apps.

I have a Ownice C200 with 16 gb nand flash and 2gb of ram bluetooth v3.0 and i am quite satisfied, it is a bit expensive, but you can buy the cheaper C180 with 8 nand flash and 1gb mem

What should a guy be looking for in a unit ?

I'm in the market for a android 2 din with front buttons on the left with no dvd. Like this guy here http://www.ebay.ca/itm/232049992513?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Does it make sense to be finding a older MTCB with things like 2gb ram & 32gb rom & then just update it with Lolipop ? Can a 2gb ram 32gb rom be updated to 4gb & 64gb ?
Or would rooting it upgrade this if it comes with 1gb ram & 16gb rom. ?
I think getting a cheaper one with a external wifi adapter 1024*600 & maybe that comes with some freebies like camera & obd2 reader would be ok ?
These are all basically the same for the most part arent they ?
Or should a guy stick with a bigger company like Joying or Pumpkin for the software fixes..?
There are 100's of units that look exactly the same either on amazon or ebay or aliexpress & the prices are way different..
I'm buying it for my son he's turning 17 in a few days & I'm way late on finding the one that has the least problems
Could anyone please lend a hand ?
Peace
P.S it has to be compatible with his iPhone 5s :good:

I guess it all boils down to time and reputation of the vendor. I don't have much time to tinker and get things just right so i looked for a reputable vendor. So i got the joying 5.1.1 unit from the us reseller. He sent it to me turn key.
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Does the Bluetooth work as it should..?
All of Joyings products only come with a wifi "wire" poking out the back
I'm looking for one thats got the antenna connected so I can extend it with possibly a better antenna

Bluetooth works just fine. Auto-connecting on the start, copying your phone contacts without problems, works with OBD and Torque. Never tried sending music to it but I'm sure it also works.
WiFi connects to my router that is ~150m away from me trough walls and with 80%+ signal so I think it's pretty nice? (most of wifi antennas I bet are worse than the ones used in the unit.) Why would you want to spend money on another antenna...
PS. What can I say... 1gb ram is not really much, if you're looking for faster respond times since if you open too many apps it gets slower quickly. That's the only thing that I can't get used to... it's all because I'm used to my phone that can handle more than this unit.
PS2. I wish I could try the unit from in-dash.net with 2gb ram and 32gb rom but now it's too late (still developing though).

150m away thats a pretty good signal
Avin is also releasing a 2gb 32gb version with parrot bluetooth but she's gonna be pricey.
What I dont get is how they can root these units & then up the ram and rom to 2gb & 32gb ??
Why wouldnt they just do this from factory to make them faster..

I'm looking at this model http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free..._2&btsid=35d24a46-a493-4fa6-8b3b-d036ad4d9a40
Before I buy is it supported by and of the updates from this forum ?
Can it be rooted..?
Thank You

Joying TM121N2 vs TO139P4

Hi folks,
I'm replacing a busted factory navigation unit in my 2011 Camry and after reading through these very helpful forums I've more or less settled on Joying, but would like advice on choosing between a TM121N2 or TO139P4. After sending car info and dash pics Joying recommended the PX5-based TO139P4; looking through their site the only other option that fits my fascia seems to be the SoFIA-based TM121N2.
On the surface the TO139P4 would seem to be a better choice (newer design, 9" vs 8", 4gb RAM vs 2gb, Android 8.0 vs 6.0) but I get the impression from the forums that this unit would be harder to customize than the TM121N2 (which I believe will work with the custom ROM posted by gtxaspec - please correct me if I'm wrong).
I don't intend to do any extreme customization, I just want to be able to fix things that don't work as I like then leave it alone. Primary usage is just navigation and music (since in reality 90% of the time my wife drives this car).
All other things being equal, given the choice, which one would you guys choose?
TIA for any advice

you also an choose TO121P2 or TO121P4:

Please read the reviews on amazon regarding Joying after sale service. I would recommend another brand. If your unit broke after 15 days (Joying policy), it will cost you almost double to get it repaired. I am one of the recent victims with TM121N2.

SummerLiu said:
you also an choose TO121P2 or TO121P4:
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Thanks, somehow I missed seeing TO121P2. I can't find the P4 on their site (at least not in their search) but it does turn up on AliExpress.

cwinoz said:
Thanks, somehow I missed seeing TO121P2. I can't find the P4 on their site (at least not in their search) but it does turn up on AliExpress.
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Get the P4, I just got it. Works great. Service and support is decent, had no problems. My first joying was defective and they exchanged it, and paid me the cost of shipping it back to them 100%. Firmware updates regularly, what more could you want?
If you see an Intel model, you can special order it from joying in a P4 model, which is what I did. My model is only offered in an Intel N2 model, and they were able to give me the same facia in a P4. Really great.

Thanks for the advice folks, I ended up ordering a TO121P4 and received it today.

Help with buying reliable OEM headunit!

Hello people,
I am looking to buy an OEM headunit for Renault Megane III car.
I don't know much about these kind of headunits so I would like to help me if you can...
I want it to have:
-reliability
-performance
-sound quality (as much as possible)
-built quality (as much as possible)
-after sales service
After some search I conclude that I have to choose a device with:
-px5 or px6 (and maybe px30) cpu
-2 or 4 gb of ram
-dsp chip
-ips screen
What do you think?
Also I found several brands like Xtrons, Witson, Isuddar, Teyes, Zwnav but I don't know which is the best choice...
Could you help me?
Thank you anyway!

i bought an EONON? i probably got that wrong about 4 years ago now there is no sound output. it did provide a good service so I'll just watch this thread for any ideas.

You are not going to get any of that from any vendor of these units. Except maybe performance if you mean fast loading and responsive apps.
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You are not going to get any of that from any vendor of these units. Except maybe performance if you mean fast loading and responsive apps.
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What is your suggestion?

I don't think that any of the Chinese head units are going to be able to deliver on your requirements. From what I can see, none of the Chinese manufacturers provide any form of meaningful after-sales service, which is one of the reasons there are so many people posting in these forums. Also, reliability is suspect. While there are people who have units that have worked for many years, there are also a lot of people that post here after their units have failed over much shorter time-frames. The old adage is true: You get what you pay for. The Chinese head units provide great bang for your buck, good features, and good functionality. But you're just not going to get the same reliability and after-sales service that you would from one of the Japanese brands.
Disclaimer: I've only been in this space for a few months after buying a PX6 based unit. I have had a few small problems with it along the way which I have been able to solve with help from users on this forum, and it's now at the point where I am really happy with the unit. It still has some annoyances, but overall I think it has been a fantastic upgrade. I'm just basing what I wrote above on what I have seen in these forums over the past few months, and on my own experiences.

Fully agree... but:
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But you're just not going to get the same reliability and after-sales service that you would from one of the Japanese brands.
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I had some Pioneer and Kenwood in the past years now and I found out that the support by them is not even better as the one from any Chinese seller.
That is the reason that I only buy directly from Klyde and Joying.
There I can say that the support is acceptable... more or less.

I've experienced a fairly good level of support from Xtrons so far. I've had several questions over my 20 month ownership and they've always been prompt at replying. I've received updated firmware from them, and most recently the unit stopped detecting reverse gear in order to switch to the reverse camera. I had a good email exchange, returned the unit to a UK company - basically a logistics hub - for "repair or replacement". I received a brand new replacement unit within 10 days with no hassle.
The reason I chose Xtrons was for the 2 year warranty, official sales and UK shipping. My advice is to be careful who you buy from. You can buy Xtrons on eBay, but the reseller might not offer the same guarantees.
By the way, I since bought a Erisin unit from eBay. It was 2/3 the price and the seller assured me 1 year warranty. It works great so far, just as good as the Xtrons but better looking. But I won't hold my breath on it lasting for years.