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Coming from Nexus devices. Very confused about how the G5 Plus works

Please excuse my incompetence. I'm just very overwhelmed how how different things are from Nexus devices
For Nexus devices, there is a page that has stock images for every update. I can't seem to find such a page for the G5 Plus. At least not an official one. Too many outdated threads that link to outdated pages with dead download links, I can't actually find what the latest update is.
Even still, I tried to install this update https://www.getdroidtips.com/npns25-137-33-11-august-moto-g5-plus/ and I get an error in recovery saying:
E3002: Package expects build thumbprint of 7.0/NPNS25.137-33-11/11:user/release-keys or 7.0/NPNS25.137-33-5/5:user/release-keys; this device has 7.0/NPN25.137-33/35:user/release-keys.
E:Error in /sideload/package.zip
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I then tried to download this update https://www.getdroidtips.com/npns25-137-35-5-may-moto-g5-plus/ butthe download link was dead
Further, on Nexus devices, if I had a custom ROM, and there was an update to the ROM that required some updates from the official stock image, I would just flash the vendor, radio, and bootloader images extracted from the stock zip file. These update files seem to only be flashable in stock recovery. How would I be able to get these updates with a custom ROM an TWRP?
Sorry if all of this is obvious. Like I said, I'm just overwhelmed.

Yousie642 said:
Please excuse my incompetence. I'm just very overwhelmed how how different things are from Nexus devices
For Nexus devices, there is a page that has stock images for every update. I can't seem to find such a page for the G5 Plus. At least not an official one. Too many outdated threads that link to outdated pages with dead download links, I can't actually find what the latest update is.
Even still, I tried to install this update https://www.getdroidtips.com/npns25-137-33-11-august-moto-g5-plus/ and I get an error in recovery saying:
I then tried to download this update https://www.getdroidtips.com/npns25-137-35-5-may-moto-g5-plus/ butthe download link was dead
Further, on Nexus devices, if I had a custom ROM, and there was an update to the ROM that required some updates from the official stock image, I would just flash the vendor, radio, and bootloader images extracted from the stock zip file. These update files seem to only be flashable in stock recovery. How would I be able to get these updates with a custom ROM an TWRP?
Sorry if all of this is obvious. Like I said, I'm just overwhelmed.
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Can you try the TWRP flashable builds from here?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Or the fastboot ROM from here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/stock-firmware-npn25-137-67-5-fastboot-t3694738

psychopac said:
Can you try the TWRP flashable builds from here?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Or the fastboot ROM from here...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/stock-firmware-npn25-137-67-5-fastboot-t3694738
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I'd actually seen the Fastboot thread already, but I guess in my frustration I misread the firmware version of the download in the OP as the one I was currently on, so I dismissed it as being outdated info. Silly me lol. Thanks!

Yousie642 said:
I'd actually seen the Fastboot thread already, but I guess in my frustration I misread the firmware version of the download in the OP as the one I was currently on, so I dismissed it as being outdated info. Silly me lol. Thanks!
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From which nexus do you come?

GopalKaul said:
From which nexus do you come?
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5x, as well as the 5 before that

Moto G5 is a pretty "plain jane" Android device, so is a Nexus device...
That is where the similarity ends, Moto/Lenovo does not provide ANY factory images and all the ones we have are leaked files, and they do not support anything after an unlock code has been issues (doesn't matter if you actually unlock it or not), and "relocking" does not return it to a true locked status like a Nexus device. Downgrading is very difficult and often requires some trickery to get accomplished, if at all.
No device is really like a Nexus as far as enthusiast support, except maybe a OnePlus.
How does this help? It doesn't... it's just some info.

Yousie642 said:
5x, as well as the 5 before that
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On the 5..

acejavelin said:
Moto G5 is a pretty "plain jane" Android device, so is a Nexus device...
That is where the similarity ends, Moto/Lenovo does not provide ANY factory images and all the ones we have are leaked files, and they do not support anything after an unlock code has been issues (doesn't matter if you actually unlock it or not), and "relocking" does not return it to a true locked status like a Nexus device. Downgrading is very difficult and often requires some trickery to get accomplished, if at all.
No device is really like a Nexus as far as enthusiast support, except maybe a OnePlus.
How does this help? It doesn't... it's just some info.
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I appreciate it nonetheless. Thanks! I'm actually a bit scared about the warranty now that I've unlocked it. I saw the message that popped up and mentioned it as I was getting my unlock code, but I was kinda mindlessly clicking "OK" through things and didn't realize what it actually said until it was too late :S

Yousie642 said:
I appreciate it nonetheless. Thanks! I'm actually a bit scared about the warranty now that I've unlocked it. I saw the message that popped up and mentioned it as I was getting my unlock code, but I was kinda mindlessly clicking "OK" through things and didn't realize what it actually said until it was too late :S
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A G4 Play I have that's unlocked still gets updates. Haven't done anything with the G5+ yet.

Yellow warning at boot.

Hello, i Hope some one can help me. I have a op5 with unlock bootloader and a custom recovery (twrp by blue) i have flash a lot rom since september 2018. But since today i have a different warning at boot.Someone can tell me what it is and how remove this warning. My phone work fine but it's not normal i think. Thank a lot

c3drik 67 said:
Hello, i Hope some one can help me. I have a op5 with unlock bootloader and a custom recovery (twrp by blue) i have flash a lot rom since september 2018. But since today i have a different warning at boot.Someone can tell me what it is and how remove this warning. My phone work fine but it's not normal i think. Thank a lot
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That's the common warning screen when you unlocked the bootloader. Nothing more.

strongst said:
That's the common warning screen when you unlocked the bootloader. Nothing more.
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Hello, but sorry it isn't the common warning. Since the begining i have unlock my bootloader (september or october)i have this warning. And not the first i have post. It's not the same.

Again this is a quite common warning on the one plus 5. Have you recently flashes a new ROM?

Have you updated widevile L1 in a service center? If so, that's the reason of the new warning message, nothing to worry about..

That warning is when you flashed Open Beta 10. There is an file (abl.elf) in the firmware that replaces the old warning screen to new warning screen. Nothing more, nothing less. So no worry though...

matt_simpson said:
Again this is a quite common warning on the one plus 5. Have you recently flashes a new ROM?
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Yes i have flash a new rom yesterday.

carlese said:
Have you updated widevile L1 in a service center? If so, that's the reason of the new warning message, nothing to worry about..
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No i didn't do that.

lekiaM said:
That warning is when you flashed Open Beta 10. There is an file (abl.elf) in the firmware that replaces the old warning screen to new warning screen. Nothing more, nothing less. So no worry though...
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Ok thanks you for your answer. Effectivly i have flash the ob10 firmare yesterday.

c3drik 67 said:
Yes i have flash a new rom yesterday.
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Which one? Was it the open beta?

matt_simpson said:
Which one? Was it the open beta?
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i have flash two rom yesterday but i have flash the ob10 firmware yes.

c3drik 67 said:
Yes i have flash a new rom yesterday.
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i have flash two rom yesterday but i have flash the ob10 firmware yes.
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Well then that is the standard one plus warning page. I have it on mine.
Matt

thanks subject closed.

That's the new bootloader from beta 10. Everyone who has that installed with an unlocked bootloader will have it that way. And simply reverting to previous builds won't change it. But that's just a cosmetic change so don't worry about it.
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs

fjsferreira said:
That's the new bootloader from beta 10. Everyone who has that installed with an unlocked bootloader will have it that way. And simply reverting to previous builds won't change it. But that's just a cosmetic change so don't worry about it.
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That's correct. Reverting to the previous Oreo builds won't change it because the new file in the firmware is only present in OB10, and not the older Oreo builds, so it won't be overwritten even if an older Oreo build is flashed.
However, the Nougat builds of OOS had this file present in their firmware, so flashing the firmware of any of the Nougat OOS builds will get the old warning back, theoretically.

Can i delete this file? Because i will switch to recovery or fastboot over this screen.
Thanks Paper

It's a new warning screen from the last OB 10

Khaos said:
It's a new warning screen from the last OB 10
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Thanks for the additional information, but it's already been explained

Thread closed as OP mentioned above.

OnePlus 6t Android 10 magisk + twrp

I just upgraded to Android 10 on my OnePlus 6t, by which I lost magisk + twrp
Can anyone tell me how to get them in Android 10
-Thanks

Same here.
Installed the Magisk app and it does not flash the zip.
I Always get a error message

Hi all. I'm running stock OTA 10 and am unable to flash twrp (compatibility issues with android 10 as I understand). When on OOS 9.0.17 i wanted to try android 10 and when I realized twrp is not an easy option anymore I wanted to simply downgrade as I have done with op 6t as well as lots of other android devices. And that too is somehow a problem at android 10..? Is really my best option to simply wait for twrp solution to be developed or is there another (relatively simple and safe) way to get it either rolled back to pie or get 10 rooted?
thanks for your time

Johan.constantin said:
Same here.
Installed the Magisk app and it does not flash the zip.
I Always get a error message
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Sukhimehta said:
I just upgraded to Android 10 on my OnePlus 6t, by which I lost magisk + twrp
Can anyone tell me how to get them in Android 10
-Thanks
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For all solutions, head over to the link, :fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/development/patched-boot-flasher-oos-q-t3991993

alp47470 said:
For all solutions, head over to the link, :fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/development/patched-boot-flasher-oos-q-t3991993
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Thank you buddy!

10.0.35 update

https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...-7t-pro-5g/software-updates-oneplus-7t-pro-5g
I cannot find the download link from oneplus so I can get the system and boot images to update my rooted phone. I hate Oneplus....they do not list these links anyplace. Can someone please post. Thank you.

I think this update brings the 5G band n41 to our device if the new band specs on T-Mobile's listing for our phone is anything to go by.

dstryrwiz said:
I think this update brings the 5G band n41 to our device if the new band specs on T-Mobile's listing for our phone is anything to go by.
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N41 has been enabled on this phone since .31. This update might bring the N66/N2 which we had pass through the FCC a few months ago.

Has anyone got it yet ? Mine still not pulling it up

LT1UltraZ said:
Has anyone got it yet ? Mine still not pulling it up
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Mines haven't either

I added the reserve.img back as directed but mine is not pulling it up either. This is why I hate oneplus. With a pixel, you got the link, downloaded it, and flashed it. They are never posting anything on their website. Matter of fact, our model does not even show up on the support page.

photolarry said:
I added the reserve.img back as directed but mine is not pulling it up either. This is why I hate oneplus. With a pixel, you got the link, downloaded it, and flashed it. They are never posting anything on their website. Matter of fact, our model does not even show up on the support page.
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Your device (T-Mo variant) lacks local update feature in Settings->System->System Updates like 6T, 7 Pro and 7T, 8 T-Mobile and 8 Verizon editions, hence why it isn't listed on support website since you can't officially flash builds by yourself.

Some_Random_Username said:
Your device (T-Mo variant) lacks local update feature in Settings->System->System Updates like 6T, 7 Pro and 7T, 8 T-Mobile and 8 Verizon editions, hence why it isn't listed on support website since you can't officially flash builds by yourself.
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Ummmm I have a rooted device and can flash it manually as I have done on many other oneplus phones. The OOS files are just not published with links sadly.
These links are listed for the non 5G phone : https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/how-to/oneplus-7t-pro-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t4003455
Sadly we do not have a dev that lists them for our phone. I am trying to get more info.

photolarry said:
Ummmm I have a rooted device and can flash it manually as I have done on many other oneplus phones.
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No you can't? There is no such local update screen with devices bought from T-Mobile.
photolarry said:
The OOS files are just not published with links sadly.
These links are listed for the non 5G phone : https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/how-to/oneplus-7t-pro-repo-oxygen-os-builds-t4003455
Sadly we do not have a dev that lists them for our phone. I am trying to get more info.
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Full zips are just not provided by OnePlus even by OTA for carrier devices (exception being Android major updates eg when Android 11 will be released), only incremental ones are provided. More info at https://www.xda-developers.com/dont...s-7t-pro-mclaren-bootloader-oxygenos-updates/
As a sidenote I'm the OP of the thread you just linked.

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No you can't? There is no such local update screen with devices bought from T-Mobile.
Full zips are just not provided by OnePlus even by OTA for carrier devices (exception being Android major updates eg when Android 11 will be released), only incremental ones are provided. More info at https://www.xda-developers.com/dont...s-7t-pro-mclaren-bootloader-oxygenos-updates/
As a sidenote I'm the OP of the thread you just linked.
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I have a rooted phone and want to get this update file. It is not that complex. If I was on any other oneplus phone that was not specialized for 5G, I could get the info needed. I dont know why you think this is hard to do? I gave you a few examples from the other forum

photolarry said:
I have a rooted phone and want to get this update file. It is not that complex. If I was on any other oneplus phone that was not specialized for 5G, I could get the info needed. I dont know why you think this is hard to do? I gave you a few examples from the other forum
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Are you even reading his responses? Those examples came from him.
Even if you had the OTA URL and file captured, you can't flash it. It'll brick your phone unless it goes through the update menu. They are incremental updates that check file integrity. They are not full updates. You cannot flash updates on this phone. Period.
If you have an MSM, that's different. But we don't have that either. Right now, all we can do is wait.

I am rooted
Some_Random_Username said:
Your device (T-Mo variant) lacks local update feature in Settings->System->System Updates like 6T, 7 Pro and 7T, 8 T-Mobile and 8 Verizon editions, hence why it isn't listed on support website since you can't officially flash builds by yourself.
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I can apply it via fastboot. And I have done so many times. For the 7 pro for example. This whole wrinkle with 5G and reserve.img really sucks. I am sorry but this is very frustrating. I want simply to be rooted for many reasons and without even flashing custom ROM....and now it looks like being rooted is causing more harm than good. I guess I get nothing from being rooted. I am contemplating just using MSM to go backwards and unroot.

photolarry said:
I have a rooted phone and want to get this update file. It is not that complex. If I was on any other oneplus phone that was not specialized for 5G, I could get the info needed. I dont know why you think this is hard to do? I gave you a few examples from the other forum
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From the very own article written by XDA Portal I linked to:
So what’s the problem here? The T-Mobile OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition, unlike most other OnePlus devices, does not have full firmware ZIPs available from OnePlus’s website. So with an unlocked bootloader barring you from taking incremental updates and no full ZIPs to take, you will be stuck on whatever OxygenOS build your phone is running if you decide to pull ahead and unlock your bootloader. The regular OnePlus 7T Pro does have full ZIPs available for downloading, but you can’t take those on this device since it’s carrier-branded and it’s T-Mobile – not OnePlus – who is responsible for the device’s OxygenOS firmware.
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Thanks for your understanding.

Actually we do.
LLStarks said:
Are you even reading his responses? Those examples came from him.
Even if you had the OTA URL and file captured, you can't flash it. It'll brick your phone unless it goes through the update menu. They are incremental updates that check file integrity. They are not full updates. You cannot flash updates on this phone. Period.
If you have an MSM, that's different. But we don't have that either. Right now, all we can do is wait.
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There is MSM that works for most oneplus phones. And the Hydrogen image for .34 so I might just do that and unroot.

photolarry said:
There is MSM that works for most oneplus phones. And the Hydrogen image for .34 so I might just do that and unroot.
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Stop. Just stop. You cannot flash the Hydrogen image. That's for the Chinese non-5G model.

I can use this!
LLStarks said:
Stop. Just stop. You cannot flash the Hydrogen image. That's for the Chinese non-5G model.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t...7tpro-tmo-5g-unbrick-tool-to-restore-t4043925
and there is an ops file for 34. So Not sure why you do not think I can use MSM. I most certainly can.

photolarry said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t...7tpro-tmo-5g-unbrick-tool-to-restore-t4043925
and there is an ops file for 34. So Not sure why you do not think I can use MSM. I most certainly can.
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LL Starks is right. MSM has been locked into specific devices starting with this device and going forward. With the 7 Pro, it was different because MSM was still universal for it. It won't work if you try using a Hydrogen MSM tool for a T-Mobile 5G variant. I know it's easy to get frustrated, but you're gonna brick your phone if you don't listen to reason or people who know what they're talking about. Not trying to sound harsh, but that's the simple truth.

photolarry said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t...7tpro-tmo-5g-unbrick-tool-to-restore-t4043925
and there is an ops file for 34. So Not sure why you do not think I can use MSM. I most certainly can.
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You're confusing several different topics.
No, you cannot manually install OTAs on OnePlus devices from TMO. It worked on the 6T at first, but then the Local Update option was removed in an update. You might be able to sideload through a modified stock recovery, if someone with root can grab the OTA after it downloads, but before it installs, since it will be deleted after.
Yes, there is a HydrogenOS MSM image. No, you cannot flash it on the HD1925 (hotdogg) TMO variant.
Yes, there are several MSM images for our TMO variant. Running any of them will lock your bootloader and restore to stock. When you unlock again after, you will once again be missing the reserve.img needed to accept OTAs.
There are downloadable zips that replace the missing reserve.img needed to accept an OTA. I didn't create the first couple, but I did make ones for .27 -> .31 and .31 -> .34.
Regardless of what build you are on now, a missing reserve.img will not prevent you from seeing an update. Your phone will download it even if you are rooted. However, it will fail to install once it gets to the part where it updates reserve.img.

Ok so what do you recommend?
NotATreoFan said:
You're confusing several different topics.
No, you cannot manually install OTAs on OnePlus devices from TMO. It worked on the 6T at first, but then the Local Update option was removed in an update. You might be able to sideload through a modified stock recovery, if someone with root can grab the OTA after it downloads, but before it installs, since it will be deleted after.
Yes, there is a HydrogenOS MSM image. No, you cannot flash it on the HD1925 (hotdogg) TMO variant.
Yes, there are several MSM images for our TMO variant. Running any of them will lock your bootloader and restore to stock. When you unlock again after, you will once again be missing the reserve.img needed to accept OTAs.
There are downloadable zips that replace the missing reserve.img needed to accept an OTA. I didn't create the first couple, but I did make ones for .27 -> .31 and .31 -> .34.
Regardless of what build you are on now, a missing reserve.img will not prevent you from seeing an update. Your phone will download it even if you are rooted. However, it will fail to install once it gets to the part where it updates reserve.img.
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Do I restore the reserve.img with the script and tools in that other thread? I did that actually. You are saying I should be able to get the update, and it will unroot me afterwards? I could use magisk to say install to inactive slot after OTA before rebooting though right? I still am not getting the update OTA...I clicked check a bunch of times. Maybe I am not in the queue for this round.

photolarry said:
Do I restore the reserve.img with the script and tools in that other thread? I did that actually. You are saying I should be able to get the update, and it will unroot me afterwards? I could use magisk to say install to inactive slot after OTA before rebooting though right?
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If you already restored your reserve.img, then the OTA should install once your phone gets it. Some people have been able to update without unrooting, but I do it to be safe. I go into Magisk and choose to restore boot images, but not uninstall. This allows any downloaded modules to remain and not have to be configured again when you root after update.
Once you restore boot images and reboot, the OTA should install and then reboot again. I then repeat the original root steps by pulling an updated boot.img through TWRP, and am back up and running in less than 15 minutes.

Update delay on Oneplus 8T

I don't know what's happening exactly with oneplus that is have this type of delay with the monthly updates and security patches with the Serie 8, I don't want to install a custom room but it looks like i will be force to do so due to the lack of updates from oneplus, hope that oneplus do something for the community who like Oxygen OS.

IDK what you're talking about. There was an update 2 weeks ago.

Yes but it was a beta one no a stable one....

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I don't know what's happening exactly with oneplus that is have this type of delay with the monthly updates and security patches with the Serie 8, I don't want to install a custom room but it looks like i will be force to do so due to the lack of updates from oneplus, hope that oneplus do something for the community who like Oxygen OS.
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Oneplus provides updates for 8T bimonthly, so it's useless to wait for them every month.

Thanks for the kind info buddy

jowandrys0 said:
Yes but it was a beta one no a stable one....
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No it's not.

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No it's not.
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I have been on build 11.0.11.13.KB09CB for the last 3-4 weeks I keep looking on OnePlus Updates but it seems the updates they show me are older. Am I missing something?? Am I on the latest update?
I also received my unlock token today, all the different threads to root are confusing, twrp, broken twrp. boot only, flash it, magisk, only use your own boot img, do use don't use magisk canary, flash EU, don't flash EU flash Global etc.....can you point me in the right direction on that? Thanks in advance