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so being a little fed up with windows mobile and a little discouraged with my last unsuccessful flashing experience (tethering is how I roll) im looking for a fully functional or mostly functional version of linux for my Herald. I've searched everywhere I can think of, is that pretty much the end of the road? would a linux rom that works on another similar phone work on mine? which phone is most similar? if linux isn't available, how long should I wait?
THANKS!
Cheers
Stivan
Have a lokk in "Developement and Hacking" thread. there are several linux threads. BUT nothing impressive....
Wait on google android!
If it makes you feel better, USPL works off some kind of linux i believe. If you use USPL to flash your phone you technically used linux. So there we go
I am definately interested in a herald linux port.
Linux on Herald Here!!!
Here is a gentoo image compatible with the Herald. Built for the Wizard, but works fine on my Wing. Only issues being no sound support and screen is shifted to the right a little, but touchscreen and SD card are working. Keyboard mapping is a little off though, but easy enough to figure out.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/embedded/55281
For those who don't want to read the whole thread...
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080527.tar.bz2
Extract to root of storage card, and run Haret.exe Login as root, blank password. Use startx to get desktop if you want.
Enjoy
Hey guys, I tried it too but I get a white screen...
you kick ass..If I could just get the source code...
Lackofmotivation said:
Here is a gentoo image compatible with the Herald. Built for the Wizard, but works fine on my Wing. Only issues being no sound support and screen is shifted to the right a little, but touchscreen and SD card are working. Keyboard mapping is a little off though, but easy enough to figure out.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/embedded/55281
For those who don't want to read the whole thread...
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080527.tar.bz2
Extract to root of storage card, and run Haret.exe Login as root, blank password. Use startx to get desktop if you want.
Enjoy
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I don't even know you, but I love you!
You are awesome. Thank you so damn much.
Linux was my only reason for buying a wing!
The obvious problems I see are as follows:
no sound
screen does not adjust when slid out
no phone program
not sure if it can get on the edge network
directional button does not work
the telephone buttons dont appear to respond nor do the subkeys around the green and red phone buttons
it's gentoo [I kid, this isn't really a problem ]
the keypad does not seem to map correctly to qwerty-us
cap and alt are lit and are inaccessible
usb port may or may not work.. did not check
other then that KICKASS
This is by no means a complaint list.
I am a programmer, I do know c and I have messed around inside the
internals of the linux kernel before.
My motivation to resolve as many of the above issues is very high right now.
I was almost ready to give up on this phone.
Again... THANK YOU!!!
Did you take the entire gizard folder and drop it into the top level directory of your sd card?
after you do that, reboot your phone. Then run the haret program.
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Hey guys, I tried it too but I get a white screen...
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You must have a different LCD panel, and the power GPIO settings may
be different. Look and compare the wizard and artemis wiki pages about
omap gpios.
Herald is very similar to Wiazrd (artemis has a very different setup), but
obviously there are still some differences.
not really
fzzyrn said:
If it makes you feel better, USPL works off some kind of linux i believe. If you use USPL to flash your phone you technically used linux. So there we go
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this really isnt what i was talking about at all. linux os on htc phone, not using linux program to flash htc phone with windows software. really big difference. so technically, yeah i did use linux, but not on my phone. thanks anyway though
touchscreen broken
so in order to install gentoo onto linux i have to install within windows mobile i guess. problem is, my touchscreen is broken and it wont let me get past the setup wizard and the screen calibration. when the touchscreen broke, for some reason i thought that reseting my phone might fix it, maybe some sort of glitch or something. is there any way to get past this? is there any other way to install gentoo without having to put it on the memory card first?
so in order to install gentoo onto linux i have to install within windows mobile i guess. problem is, my touchscreen is broken and it wont let me get past the setup wizard and the screen calibration. when the touchscreen broke, for some reason i thought that reseting my phone might fix it, maybe some sort of glitch or something. is there any way to get past this? is there any other way to install gentoo without having to put it on the memory card first?
waiting......
as for the broken touch screen,just create a file named welcome.not and place it in the root of the micro sd card. restart the unit. it'sjust an empty file. it has worked for me four times already. it bypasses the touch screen setup. as for linux. I would love to try it.
Thank You Thank You So Much!
donepate you are so awesome! this is by far probably one of the most useful (albeit basic) tips ive ever read! thank you so much my herald has been dead for about a year and in its place was a Samsung SGH-639. BLAH! YAY! HERALD IS BACK! HELL YEAAAAAH!
has anyone got this to work completely keyboard, screen flipping and everything?
Ok first of all a big hi to this great community (xda team) and users.
Im new to this stuff but im in need for a little help, and i hope someone is willing to help me.
I have HTC Touch and im having problems with it. Its broken now it doesn't work. Not to forget to mention the phone i own is chinese made, which means i think is not the original one (even it looks and acts like the real one).
After modifying some phone applications, by installing tweaks and applications i found on internet, i installed some modified Keypad application, and after using it a while, one day it stopped responding and instead of showing Number keys, it only showed black buttons. SO i tried to uninstall it and after successful uninstall i restarted the phone but it showed me the screen aligning thing and i did what was required it booted but was not working properly. so i did several reboots, and then even tried reseting it. after several tries im now stuck on screen error.
I uploaded two videos on youtube how the screen gets mixed and the other problem, hard reset won't work on my device.
Links to videos:
video 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivS0tALyvd0
video 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0DyOiw7Pkw
i would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do with my device.
PS. Im newbie so i might need some simple instructions if possible.
Thanks in advance.
No one cant help???
I hope someone is willing to give me some instructions...please!!!
Best regards. Gjizaqin
Very strange.
I havent seen any so unhelpfull forum like this :-( im really sad.
I posted the thread asked for help, explained the thing in the best way i could, and no single reply even the one "we can't help" would be nice to see.
Update to my post:
Im writing this with idea of helping others and pointing people to right direction. After maby 1 month of hard exploring i repaired my htc touch (chinese clone)
The phone im using is also known as Elf0100.
So how i fixed the problem:
After trying many many times the standard Hard reset method (Send, stop keys pressed and presing soft reset button with stylus) this method doesn't work with chinese htc clones. So anyone out there having Chinese Htc clone, the right method for doing Hard Reset is: Hold Volume Up & Camera Key pressed, and press Reset button for about 3 seconds without releasing Volume up and camera buttons. After that you should get blue screen, and in the top screen will be shown "Boot loading, hard reset, or something like that im not very sure".
Anyways if you have your Windows mobile damaged (like the one i had), you can repair it with the following method:
1. Download the manufactured version of Windows (or maby this is called ROM) from this site.
2. Format your HTC memory card (Micro SD card), so it will be clean.
3. Move the update.img (you already downloaded from the site) to root directory of your Memory card.
4. Press Volume Up button on your htc and while keeping it pressed , press the reset button.
You should get the blue screen telling the update being downloaded. Wait for a while and it will tell that Update is successfull and your phone will be rebooted.
THis is it.
Although i didnt get any help from this forum, i know i might help others cause this is most frequent place regarding PPC.
Best regards to all.
gjizaqin said:
Update to my post:
Im writing this with idea of helping others and pointing people to right direction. After maby 1 month of hard exploring i repaired my htc touch (chinese clone)
The phone im using is also known as Elf0100.
So how i fixed the problem:
After trying many many times the standard Hard reset method (Send, stop keys pressed and presing soft reset button with stylus) this method doesn't work with chinese htc clones. So anyone out there having Chinese Htc clone, the right method for doing Hard Reset is: Hold Volume Up & Camera Key pressed, and press Reset button for about 3 seconds without releasing Volume up and camera buttons. After that you should get blue screen, and in the top screen will be shown "Boot loading, hard reset, or something like that im not very sure".
Anyways if you have your Windows mobile damaged (like the one i had), you can repair it with the following method:
1. Download the manufactured version of Windows (or maby this is called ROM) from this site.
2. Format your HTC memory card (Micro SD card), so it will be clean.
3. Move the update.img (you already downloaded from the site) to root directory of your Memory card.
4. Press Volume Up button on your htc and while keeping it pressed , press the reset button.
You should get the blue screen telling the update being downloaded. Wait for a while and it will tell that Update is successfull and your phone will be rebooted.
THis is it.
Although i didnt get any help from this forum, i know i might help others cause this is most frequent place regarding PPC.
Best regards to all.
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Hi gjizaqin,
I feel sorry you lost valuable time looking for an answer to your problem (and found it alone !) but I think you are too hasty to blame this forum. I am myself quite new here and I've already learnt so much using the "search". For instance I found another remark of yours in another thread and also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2466074#post2466074 where you have your answer
Another reason is the title of your thread Help needed , HTC Touch screen error! like me probably others understood you have a technical problem with your screen (broken or damaged) and nobody could help you but repair shop...
I trust you'll continue contributing here because your last post proves you're a gentleman.
All the best !!!
tito12 said:
Hi gjizaqin,
I feel sorry you lost valuable time looking for an answer to your problem (and found it alone !) but I think you are too hasty to blame this forum. I am myself quite new here and I've already learnt so much using the "search". For instance I found another remark of yours in another thread and also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2466074#post2466074 where you have your answer
Another reason is the title of your thread Help needed , HTC Touch screen error! like me probably others understood you have a technical problem with your screen (broken or damaged) and nobody could help you but repair shop...
I trust you'll continue contributing here because your last post proves you're a gentleman.
All the best !!!
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Thanks for your reply tito12,
Anyways its nice forum but not very newbie frendly. I guess the way I wrote this thing will be much easier for any newbie to fix his china htc, without talking too much about roms, loaders etc etc, wich is very confusing for newbies (like me and others).
I thought it was screen problem cause my htc was getting some messy colors while loading (you can see it in the video i provided). And i stated "unhellpfull forum" by keeping in mind that more than 200 people viewed the thread, and not even single one said simply : "i have no idea, or sorry" so i know someone will try to help me out.
Anyways as a owner of HTC I will still contribute to this forum, in the way I can but words I wrote could be some kind of newbie impressions.
Best regards to all.
Sorry to see no one could help you out - maybe its because its a clone and most users here have real genuine ones? Anyway its great to see you got it fixed and stick with the forums as I am sure you will learn a lot from them and soemtimes get an answer. I find that hardware questions dont get many responses but if you go into say a skinning forum you will get more replies.
So I had an idea today...I'm sure the geniuses that have gotten the Dx and D2 this far have already tried it; but I cannot find any information on it. What if we tried the good old fashioned trick of cold booting:
Google princeton cold boot. I cannot paste links.
I am going to make my best efforts to try this, but I know there are many people that are far better than I. I will let you know of my results, if I ever achieve any.
I think this is an interesting idea, and have read a lot about this being done on laptops... would be interested to see if this works for the android system...
It would only work if the keys are stored in RAM tho... and I think the keys are hard coded into a chip (thought I heard this somewhere...could be 100% wrong)
Anyways...would be interested to see some of the devs try this...
No idea if this would work but if this could be pulled off it would be a pretty epic hack
This looks to rely on the ability to run custom OS/Software. Since our current hacks involve loading *after* the kernel, I doubt this would work.
Kinda like a chicken before the egg problem.
It requires custom rims on another host. Realistically all you need is for the princeton program to read the ram from a different partition. Im sure it can be modified to mount the phone and read the ram from there.
Kinda as an acknowledgement/off-shoot of what zaphod has said...
What if a second init process could be kicked off to hijack the boot process kinda like what koush did..
If the ram could be dumped quick enough... Would this work? I'm not a dev, but do a lot of sys admin work and understand many of the concepts for kernels, and boot processes...
Just trying to help throw out ideas and get the creative juices florin for those who can develop.
Ps, zaphod, thnx for all ur contributions on this forum, many of ur posts have helped me.a TON
Just Chiming In
That's kind of what unrevoked did:
I know we have completely different phones, but this is basically how they cracked HTC:
They found out that in the booting of the phone, during the init, adb would start, but then immediately get killed off by HTC's init. what they did then was found out that if they inserted an SD card into the phone at the precisely exact time (between when ADB started and got killed off by MOTO) so that it would be read right before ADB was killed by MOTO, it would hang MOTO's init, so they had full adb access during the init process, which allowed them to run the phones STOCK recovery alongside ADB. Firstly it allowed them to get root, then once they got root what they basicall did was kick off a LEGIT system update through the phones recovery and then SWAP it for a payload right in between when the phone finished the key checks and started writing the new system....
I know that we have two different things going on here.... but if they did this, I'm sure we could pull something like swapping kernels during load.....
MAN I wish Unrevoked got and tried to crack the X, but they focus on HTC phones.
Any way to send this idea the devs' way without looking pushy? I think from a technical stand-point this is a worthwhile idea to look into...or at least give some thought to it...
thinking about it further
After thinking about this more I think the answer has to lay in this exploit. We are right in stating that the key is actually burnt into a chip somewhere. However, we must remember that there is some key generation going on during the bootloader phase. Thus: at some point the correct key is stored in memory as the phone correctly boots. If the phone boots, the key is laying someplace in memory. It's just a matter of finding it.
I haven't had time to play with this yet, hopefully I will have some time this week or weekend. I am very confident that this will work, it's just a matter of figuring out how to get the program that reads the memory to look at my phone, not my computer.
lilott8 said:
After thinking about this more I think the answer has to lay in this exploit. We are right in stating that the key is actually burnt into a chip somewhere. However, we must remember that there is some key generation going on during the bootloader phase. Thus: at some point the correct key is stored in memory as the phone correctly boots. If the phone boots, the key is laying someplace in memory. It's just a matter of finding it.
I haven't had time to play with this yet, hopefully I will have some time this week or weekend. I am very confident that this will work, it's just a matter of figuring out how to get the program that reads the memory to look at my phone, not my computer.
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Liliott,
I'm really glad you are looking into this. I've read about this hack for pc's and think there may actually be something to this. I feel like if we could have something that hijacked the boot process real similar to Koush's recovery then if someone could write a program that would dump NVRAM (I think this is the equivalent to the phone RAM) this would work. With this said, I believe that the devs originally working on cracking the bootloader were able to get NVRAM into "engineering mode" (don't remember the exact terminology off the top of my head)....but I still am thinking this idea should definitely be given more credit and looked into.
I would love to help, but I don't have any dev experience, so I'm somewhat at a loss there....Thanks for pursuing this!
The key you need (presumably an RSA key) wont be stored anywhere on the phone at all.
What happens is that Motorola produce new software for the phone and sign it with their private key (that only Motorola have). This is then sent to the phone. (OTA or whatever they do) The phone verifies the signature using a public key burned into the ROM of the phone (i.e. you cant change it without physically modifying the hardware somehow)
The best hope to break the bootloader on this phone is to reverse engineer it and look for an explot, as has been done on Moto phones in the past (various Motorola MOTOMAGX linux phones have been cracked open this way)
jfwfreo said:
The key you need (presumably an RSA key) wont be stored anywhere on the phone at all.
What happens is that Motorola produce new software for the phone and sign it with their private key (that only Motorola have). This is then sent to the phone. (OTA or whatever they do) The phone verifies the signature using a public key burned into the ROM of the phone (i.e. you cant change it without physically modifying the hardware somehow)
The best hope to break the bootloader on this phone is to reverse engineer it and look for an explot, as has been done on Moto phones in the past (various Motorola MOTOMAGX linux phones have been cracked open this way)
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Question:
Ok, I know that this will pretty much fall flat, but I have to ask. The Milestone, and OG Droid are pretty much the same phone. Do they have the same boot loader, just unlocked? If so is it the same as the X? The reason I'm asking is it might be easier to crack the Droid since it's already unlocked?
It might be like looking at the lock from inside out trying to figure out how it opens, vs trying to open the lock by looking at it from the outside.
Also, does the MOTO use "goldkeys" like HTC did at one point in time, or have they moved on from that?
On another point, MOTO changed their keys from 2.1 to 2.2, and the phone accepted them. That tells me that it's possible. How much time that will take, I don't know.
Finally, is there any way to "intercept" the process like unrevoked did? I mean if we could get adb working while recovery is working, we could start the recovery process using a legit OTA, and overwrite the zip through adb AFTER verification and before the actual copying. That shouldn't set off the fuse, right?
ideas?
dreamersipaq said:
Question:
Ok, I know that this will pretty much fall flat, but I have to ask. The Milestone, and OG Droid are pretty much the same phone. Do they have the same boot loader, just unlocked? If so is it the same as the X? The reason I'm asking is it might be easier to crack the Droid since it's already unlocked?
It might be like looking at the lock from inside out trying to figure out how it opens, vs trying to open the lock by looking at it from the outside.
Also, does the MOTO use "goldkeys" like HTC did at one point in time, or have they moved on from that?
On another point, MOTO changed their keys from 2.1 to 2.2, and the phone accepted them. That tells me that it's possible. How much time that will take, I don't know.
Finally, is there any way to "intercept" the process like unrevoked did? I mean if we could get adb working while recovery is working, we could start the recovery process using a legit OTA, and overwrite the zip through adb AFTER verification and before the actual copying. That shouldn't set off the fuse, right?
ideas?
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The Milestone has a locked bootloader, and hasn't been cracked for a year.
Sent from Eris with Froyo
TheSonicEmerald said:
The Milestone has a locked bootloader, and hasn't been cracked for a year.
Sent from Eris with Froyo
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I really am not trying to sound (too) rude when I say this, but
Did you even READ my whole post?
Yes, the Milestone is locked, but the Droid (the Milestone's US twin) is not.
*Golf clap*
Gotta love it when people reply to a post without even reading a few sentances of the post they are directly replying to. It is understood that the Milestone's bootloader is locked, he was questioning how close the hardware and programming were between the OD (Original Droid) and Milestone aside from the lock being activated in the Milestone. It is the general consensus that the same lock and efuse functions exist in the OD but they are not activated. If this is true then it might be beneficial to see if any of the developers out there with a spare OD test to see if they can figure out how to activate the lock on an OD and then potentially have a better understanding of what might be involved with de-activating it.
Thanks!!!
JinxtPhoto said:
*Golf clap*
Gotta love it when people reply to a post without even reading a few sentances of the post they are directly replying to. It is understood that the Milestone's bootloader is locked, he was questioning how close the hardware and programming were between the OD (Original Droid) and Milestone aside from the lock being activated in the Milestone. It is the general consensus that the same lock and efuse functions exist in the OD but they are not activated. If this is true then it might be beneficial to see if any of the developers out there with a spare OD test to see if they can figure out how to activate the lock on an OD and then potentially have a better understanding of what might be involved with de-activating it.
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rant
*Bow*
I'm glad that there are still people out there that have a reading comprehension above that of a wet mop. I won't insult them and say they have a low IQ though
I hate it when you take the time to put something that you though about up and someone comes along, reads the first sentence, and (without making any effort to finish the paragraph or REALLY think about what the person is trying to say) spew up crap equivalent to that of the "First" post on blog comment boards.....
/rant
Any haxzors? is this liable, possible, waste of time?
*please don't reply with "waste of time". give us some reasoning, otherwise your post does not help us at all*
The reason it might now
The reason why it actually might not fail is this:
When the system boots, it runs it magic RSA/PGP/AES encryption. It then takes that and compares that to its bootloader routine that it loads. Where does it store the bootloader encryption result to compare to the system boot key? If you guessed memory you would be correct. Now if it stays in memory we will have the golden ticket. If Motorola is smart, and wipe that part of the memory upon OS boot, then it's a matter of timing. If we can get that key, we can, potentially, intercept the bootloader, present the key that we stole and boot our own bootloader/cooked rom.
I think there is quite a bit of potential here.
*Clapping continued...*
I'm glad to see more people finally chiming in on this topic. Call me naive...but when it comes to the dev communities, it seems like "where there's a will...there's a way"
They had made decent progress on cracking this (kinda...) maybe this idea is one that should be looked into (probably said this like 5x in this thread now...oh well)
Thank you to dreamerispaq and Jinxt, appreciate you guys throwing some comments in here
did the release of the 2.2 SBF help at all? If there was a kernel change from 2.1 to 2.2, wouldn't a method be inside of the SBF? Is there any way to hijack the SBF to allow installation of a custom Kernel and ROM?
Shouldn't there basically be an entire phone image inside of the SBF file? If so, would it be possible to alter pieces of that to create some kind of exploit, or use RSD Lite itself and altered SBF's to load up custom kernels and ROMS?
I'm just chucking stones blindly here, I know this is way above my skill level, but I can't help thinking that a full SBF should help similar to the way you can pull the system image from an HTC RUU.
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did the release of the 2.2 SBF help at all? If there was a kernel change from 2.1 to 2.2, wouldn't a method be inside of the SBF? Is there any way to hijack the SBF to allow installation of a custom Kernel and ROM?
Shouldn't there basically be an entire phone image inside of the SBF file? If so, would it be possible to alter pieces of that to create some kind of exploit, or use RSD Lite itself and altered SBF's to load up custom kernels and ROMS?
I'm just chucking stones blindly here, I know this is way above my skill level, but I can't help thinking that a full SBF should help similar to the way you can pull the system image from an HTC RUU.
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Unfortunately, I don't think so. The issue is that both sets of keys are probably hashed and encrypted.... so even if we pulled out the private key out of the SBF that motorolla used, we'd have to brute force it to decrypt it. If, let's say they were smart and used something like RSA as stated above, it'd take a super computer a couple of decades to crack it.
A brute force attack is not going to be helpful here I'm afraid. I'ts going to be more of a lets look at the code, and see if we can find a flaw somewhere in moto's coding that we can use to our advantage.
That's why I recommended looking at the OD. If it shares the same bootloaded, it's already uncloked. Maybe we could take it, reverse engineer it, and look at the calls it makes, where it looks for files, what order it loads things in, etc.... THIS would be more beneficial IMHO.
Hey
I'm not sure what sort of feed back I'll get from this due to the age of the device but you never know.
I recently dusted off my HTC X9500 and popped windows 10 on just because I could really and i remembered how hand the device so it got me thinking how could I make it usable again and this lead me to the idea of gutting it and popping a raspberry pie inside. The only place I could think to look was my trusted friend xda-developers. A site that has guided me through many a phone rooting and tinkerings in the past. I've done some searching and couldn't find anyone else that seems to be talking about having attempted it or even considered it so I thought I'd put some feelers out and see if anyone has a) had this thought and b) attempted it.
So if anyone is interested in exploring this with me or has explored it previously please leave a message and we can see what happens I'll keep an eye out here as I do further research into if this is something that can be done and if people are interested post back my what I find
McLemming
Interesting... just installed win10 on my BenQ MidS6 and it runs like a crazy hare/ rosa mopped
Actually didn't continued this on Shift as mine is running pretty well the way it is.
Maybe some second edition.
Raspberry... yet don't know enough about it, but maybe this is the beginning of a new thread.
Crucial: where to install it physically.
MrLemming said:
Hey
I'm not sure what sort of feed back I'll get from this due to the age of the device but you never know.
I recently dusted off my HTC X9500 and popped windows 10 on just because I could really and i remembered how hand the device so it got me thinking how could I make it usable again and this lead me to the idea of gutting it and popping a raspberry pie inside. The only place I could think to look was my trusted friend xda-developers. A site that has guided me through many a phone rooting and tinkerings in the past. I've done some searching and couldn't find anyone else that seems to be talking about having attempted it or even considered it so I thought I'd put some feelers out and see if anyone has a) had this thought and b) attempted it.
So if anyone is interested in exploring this with me or has explored it previously please leave a message and we can see what happens I'll keep an eye out here as I do further research into if this is something that can be done and if people are interested post back my what I find
McLemming
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What exactly do you have in mind MrLemming? Loading Raspbian or any other distro in the Vista side of the Shift (with Shift in dual boot or not) and doing what a normal Raspberry Pi board does? Please do not forget that the SD card reader on the Shift is working only under particular conditions, but of course you can always use the usb. I guess that Shift would work much faster than the Raspberry Pi, but so it will be with any PC. The Shift integrated screen, keyboard and mouse are clear advantages.
So why are you looking for Shift to replace the Raspberry Pi? This would work for you and maybe another 100 Shift owners, but not for the rest of the world.
Anyway, great idea, go ahead, you might even resurrect this nearly dead forum.
So my phone was acting weird recently, with all sorts of various problems popping out and I simply could not live with it. Before continuing, I would like to say that I hope you guys could help me out here, and thanks a lot in advance. Anyways, I decided that instead of just re-flashing the same ROM on top of the current one on my phone, why not fully erase all the partitions first (big mistake) and fresh install the ROM?
I erased my individual partitions (TWRP - rajlko) with this command, and managed to erase up to 7 partitions.
mke2fs -T ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1/2/3/4/5/6/7
After formatting ALL the partitions, I immediately rebooted my phone (another huge mistake - the boot.img or whatsoever is probably deleted now) and now, it boots up with a black screen, and that it shows up as Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 in the device manager.
Please do give some insights and suggestions on this matter. I do not have the time to travel to the nearest service center as of now, and that the repair service takes at least 3 weeks. Hopefully there are solutions to this though. From what I know, the partitions (with the names) are there, just that the necessary files required to boot the phone is not there. Is there any way about this? Thank you!
at present we have no solution for this situation.
most important thing is service rom & we do not how to get it.
when I hard bricked my phone, i surrender this to service center & I got my phone back in 5 days.
there are approx 51 mmcblk in ze550kl.
Ouch. Sad news. There is a tool called QFIL from QPST bundle, which can download firmware to device in Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 mode, but I don't know if we have the images to flash. This is all new, I don't believe anyone has tried to unbrick their laser on xda yet
wickedpygmy said:
Ouch. Sad news. There is a tool called QFIL from QPST bundle, which can download firmware to device in Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 mode, but I don't know if we have the images to flash. This is all new, I don't believe anyone has tried to unbrick their laser on xda yet
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I think I was first who hard brick my ze550kl, after doing one week research, I surrender it to my local asus service center.
I got my device repaired in 5 days.
we do not have necessary files of ze550kl.
rajlko said:
I think I was first who hard brick my ze550kl, after doing one week research, I surrender it to my local asus service center.
I got my device repaired in 5 days.
we do not have necessary files of ze550kl.
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Rajiko are you able to explain exactly what the service rom does, and why it is needed? Or do you know any useful URL that we can read to learn more? I don't really understand how the service rom fits into the bigger picture and it would be great to understand more - for example, can we use any msm8939 unbrick tools if we have a snapdragon 615 device, or does it need to be from Asus?
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Rajiko are you able to explain exactly what the service rom does, and why it is needed? Or do you know any useful URL that we can read to learn more? I don't really understand how the service rom fits into the bigger picture and it would be great to understand more - for example, can we use any msm8939 unbrick tools if we have a snapdragon 615 device, or does it need to be from Asus?
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service rom is which have all data of partition which if by mistake deleted or currupted ,so we can full restore our mobile rom partition so can we dont have to go to service center and can have much time and have development of roms on way easier
wickedpygmy said:
Rajiko are you able to explain exactly what the service rom does, and why it is needed? Or do you know any useful URL that we can read to learn more? I don't really understand how the service rom fits into the bigger picture and it would be great to understand more - for example, can we use any msm8939 unbrick tools if we have a snapdragon 615 device, or does it need to be from Asus?
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Have you every face a situation where there is no recovery, no fastboot, no system runs, you are unable to see any sign of booting device, no light on your mobile scree.
When you connect your mobile phone to your pc you found yourself in a new situation, your pc displays a popup installing driver for newly found device, when this installation done, you found a new device in your pc's device manager somename .... 9008.
In this situation, we need some tools that may detect our device & here it comes to role of service rom.
our xda forum is good url to read & learn with every situation regarding our mobiles.
every manufacture have different boot partitions & commands, so we need service rom from particular manufacturer for particular device.
Thanks for your help guys! I decided to send it in and it came back within 5 days. The engineers diagnosed the problem as the motherboard being "dead" (stated so on the letter), though I am pretty sure that's not the case, if you know what I mean.
Upon receiving my phone and popping off the back cover, there is actually a "hole" next to the SIM slot 2, which could be easily identified with a yellow taping around it. With the vague image of my previous ZenFone 2 Laser, as well as with the aid of images online, I am sure that this is definitely a new revision for that particulator motherboard, or so to say, a revised version. One thing I noticed is the dramatic improvement in battery life. Using the exact same applications as before, I would only get about 3-4 hours max screen-on-time, whereas with the repaired phone, I could easily get to about 8-11 hours of screen-on-time without limiting any of my application usages.
Another thing that I noticed was that the phone was significantly faster. I have the MSM8916 processor variant, and with the previous phone, it would lag occasionally. Whereas after being repaired, everything was butter smooth. Extremely smooth.
I am not sure if this is really because of the, so to speak, "updated" version of the motherboard, or simply a placebo effect, but hopefully it's not the latter.
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Thanks for your help guys! I decided to send it in and it came back within 5 days. The engineers diagnosed the problem as the motherboard being "dead" (stated so on the letter), though I am pretty sure that's not the case, if you know what I mean.
Upon receiving my phone and popping off the back cover, there is actually a "hole" next to the SIM slot 2, which could be easily identified with a yellow taping around it. With the vague image of my previous ZenFone 2 Laser, as well as with the aid of images online, I am sure that this is definitely a new revision for that particulator motherboard, or so to say, a revised version. One thing I noticed is the dramatic improvement in battery life. Using the exact same applications as before, I would only get about 3-4 hours max screen-on-time, whereas with the repaired phone, I could easily get to about 8-11 hours of screen-on-time without limiting any of my application usages.
Another thing that I noticed was that the phone was significantly faster. I have the MSM8916 processor variant, and with the previous phone, it would lag occasionally. Whereas after being repaired, everything was butter smooth. Extremely smooth.
I am not sure if this is really because of the, so to speak, "updated" version of the motherboard, or simply a placebo effect, but hopefully it's not the latter.
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That's strange. Could you run AnTuTu/Geekbench/Vellamo benchmarks a few times and post your average scores?
Maybe check your device info using CPU-Z to see if anything's changed?
Can you please post a picture of the back?
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Upon receiving my phone and popping off the back cover, there is actually a "hole" next to the SIM slot 2, which could be easily identified with a yellow taping around it. With the vague image of my previous ZenFone 2 Laser, as well as with the aid of images online, I am sure that this is definitely a new revision for that particulator motherboard, or so to say, a revised version. One thing I noticed is the dramatic improvement in battery life. Using the exact same a
I am not sure if this is really because of the, so to speak, "updated" version of the motherboard, or simply a placebo effect, but hopefully it's not the latter.
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Alright! I will post a picture of the back, as well as the benchmark scores when I get back.
Hardbriked like realy dropping it on the floor
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Alright! I will post a picture of the back, as well as the benchmark scores when I get back.
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I scrolled briefly through your posts and didn't see which model you have 550 or 551?
Also, what was the verdict on the possible new mainboard? What did CPU-Z report?
Please create a new topic, since this is not related to "hard bricked".
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rajlko said:
I think I was first who hard brick my ze550kl, after doing one week research, I surrender it to my local asus service center.
I got my device repaired in 5 days.
we do not have necessary files of ze550kl.
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how much did it cost ? as my phone too is hard bricked and i see no solution! thanks in advance!!
het21 said:
how much did it cost ? as my phone too is hard bricked and i see no solution! thanks in advance!!
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we have solution
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we have solution
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actually i own ze551ml .. its completely hardbricked.. i went through the entire process of xfstk, isoc usb and other drivers and methods. So in xfstk is succesfully mounted (os + fw ) on the device. post that you get a 4 colored screen and then you boot into bootloader normally. in mine however the phone is stuck at the 4 colored screen forever. i have redone the entire process like 90 times but same , i have eeven tried other solutions but nothing worked. thats why i asked whether the service center guys replace the motherboard or actually unbrick it and how much they charge? thanks for the reply!
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actually i own ze551ml .. its completely hardbricked.. i went through the entire process of xfstk, isoc usb and other drivers and methods. So in xfstk is succesfully mounted (os + fw ) on the device. post that you get a 4 colored screen and then you boot into bootloader normally. in mine however the phone is stuck at the 4 colored screen forever. i have redone the entire process like 90 times but same , i have eeven tried other solutions but nothing worked. thats why i asked whether the service center guys replace the motherboard or actually unbrick it and how much they charge? thanks for the reply!
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they will unbrick it
And i cant guide coz i have qualcomm model
U should ask for help in ur device forum
addy692 said:
they will unbrick it
And i cant guide coz i have qualcomm model
U should ask for help in ur device forum
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cool! they unbrick it! oh i tried asking in those forums but no result! thanks again!