Fire TV apps to Android TV apps? - Android TV General

While there are plenty of listings on YouTube for how to convert Android OS apps to Fire OS, there isn't much for the other way around. I know there used to be a thread for this, but it hasn't been updated in a long time. I had used a modded version of Watch TVG (now Fanduel Plus) to watch horse racing in glorious HD (for some reason, the website version of TVG only shows SD streams, and my cable operator only has SD, for the main TVG, and no TVG2 ...) but it stopped working ... was told I needed to update to the newest version, which I of course couldn't. Now that Fanduel Plus will also be offering international basketball leagues in addition to horse racing, the app seems more attractive than ever ... but no good on Android TV, unlike Fire TV, Roku, or Apple TV. If anyone has this app modded to work on Android TV (or any Android version, for that matter) , or a how to to on how to covert between the two similiar, but different, formats, that would be great.

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Some of you that are considering firetv might want to look at android streaming media devices instead. I got tis one for 60 bucks from amazon.
http://amzn.com/B00FYI1DKO
Severa typesl available.
Even though it doesnt say it has xbmc preinstalled. Play store installed. Android jelly bean installed. Already rooted. Jhst load su .
Wjth a mouse very fubctionable. Add memory,load up nova and you have a very functionable straming device, and true android.
I do have a firetv whitch i like but other box mighr be a better solution for many of you.
Woody
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woodsonmh said:
Some of you that are considering firetv might want to look at android streaming media devices instead. I got tis one for 60 bucks from amazon.
http://amzn.com/B00FYI1DKO
Severa typesl available.
Even though it doesnt say it has xbmc preinstalled. Play store installed. Android jelly bean installed. Already rooted. Jhst load su .
Wjth a mouse very fubctionable. Add memory,load up nova and you have a very functionable straming device, and true android.
I do have a firetv whitch i like but other box mighr be a better solution for many of you.
Woody
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For $60 it is way underpowered with an Allwinner A20. For a few dollars more there are quad core and have 2GB. But you also have the common issues like weak wifi, unstable Android firmware ( how much effort does a company put into the OS when they can't spell in the ad selling the device?) , and absolutely zero customer support after sale. I have 4 of the quad streamers and all of them have some little quirk.
kairnage said:
For $60 it is way underpowered with an Allwinner A20. For a few dollars more there are quad core and have 2GB. But you also have the common issues like weak wifi, unstable Android firmware ( how much effort does a company put into the OS when they can't spell in the ad selling the device?) , and absolutely zero customer support after sale. I have 4 of the quad streamers and all of them have some little quirk.
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And firetv has no quirks? The more you hack the firetv, two things are very possible. You will may loose support and you may loose firetv features. I dont know the current state of rooting other kindle products but you used to loose amazon featuress like video when rooted. This is why ive never rooted my kindles.
Any update might take all efforts to hack away. Who knows what will happen?
Just $20 may be a more expensive than its worth.
Just saying
Woody
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I just picked up a 2013 model Sony Bravia TV. It has an MHL port which accepts Sony's Google TV Smart Stick, model NSZ-GU1. I managed to find one of these on eBay for $65 and thought I would try it out...
Although I do have a Fire TV and quite like it, this Bravia Smart Stick seems to outshine the Fire TV in usability, IMHO. There are limitations on Play Store apps you can install, however I have been able to sideload and run the latest Gotham release of XMBC and it runs remarkably well. Unfortunately, I am no a video collector so I can only speak for it's streaming capabilities with addons like MLBMC and a few other unmentionables.
Specs:
• Power supply: via micro USB port or MHL (HDMI) out port.
• Processor : Marvell (DE3108-A1)
• Memory: 1GB RAM / 8GB Flash
• Video out: 720p/60
• Video in: 480p, 720p/60
• Audio out: PCM, DD & DD+
• Audio in: PCM & DD
• Wireless LAN: IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.4 GHz)
• Ethernet: none
• MHL (HDMI) out port
• HDMI in port
• IR Blaster out port
• USB 2.0 port: 1
• Bluetooth: ver 3.0
Although the specs pale in comparison to my Fire TV, the voice search capability blows away the FTV. When searching for TV shows or movies, I get result options for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Vudu or Google Play from what I have seen so far. Also, I can do voice internet searches which are launched and displayed in the Chrome browser. Youtube searches are pretty sweet as well - search results are displayed as tiles across the homescreen and as you scroll through them, video titles and info are displayed as well. Can also voice launch applications, including XBMC. The remote works natively in XBMC and I can also toggle back and forth between XBMC and the Google TV environment. Pretty much the majority of features I find lacking in Fire TV are satisfied here. I almost wish I could replace the ROM from the Fire TV with that of the Bravia Stick. Trouble is the stick is limited to 720p, so perhaps it would only run that format, I don't know. At any rate, I'll keep it plugged in to my TV just for the convenient Youtube search functions if anything, and still run my Fire TV.
HemRoyd said:
I just picked up a 2013 model Sony Bravia TV. It has an MHL port which accepts Sony's Google TV Smart Stick, model NSZ-GU1. I managed to find one of these on eBay for $65 and thought I would try it out...
Although I do have a Fire TV and quite like it, this Bravia Smart Stick seems to outshine the Fire TV in usability, IMHO. There are limitations on Play Store apps you can install, however I have been able to sideload and run the latest Gotham release of XMBC and it runs remarkably well. Unfortunately, I am no a video collector so I can only speak for it's streaming capabilities with addons like MLBMC and a few other unmentionables.
Specs:
• Power supply: via micro USB port or MHL (HDMI) out port.
• Processor : Marvell (DE3108-A1)
• Memory: 1GB RAM / 8GB Flash
• Video out: 720p/60
• Video in: 480p, 720p/60
• Audio out: PCM, DD & DD+
• Audio in: PCM & DD
• Wireless LAN: IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.4 GHz)
• Ethernet: none
• MHL (HDMI) out port
• HDMI in port
• IR Blaster out port
• USB 2.0 port: 1
• Bluetooth: ver 3.0
Although the specs pale in comparison to my Fire TV, the voice search capability blows away the FTV. When searching for TV shows or movies, I get result options for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Vudu or Google Play from what I have seen so far. Also, I can do voice internet searches which are launched and displayed in the Chrome browser. Youtube searches are pretty sweet as well - search results are displayed as tiles across the homescreen and as you scroll through them, video titles and info are displayed as well. Can also voice launch applications, including XBMC. The remote works natively in XBMC and I can also toggle back and forth between XBMC and the Google TV environment. Pretty much the majority of features I find lacking in Fire TV are satisfied here. I almost wish I could replace the ROM from the Fire TV with that of the Bravia Stick. Trouble is the stick is limited to 720p, so perhaps it would only run that format, I don't know. At any rate, I'll keep it plugged in to my TV just for the convenient Youtube search functions if anything, and still run my Fire TV.
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Video is one area the firetv shines. In my opinion, its better than roku chromcast or my android streaming device. It is fast loading programs, and i think streams better than some of tbe other devices if not all of them. I can understand your comment on voice. As limited as firetv is, and there are indications it will improve, helps overcome the cludgy interface. For inatance i dont have to look for netflix app but can get to it through voice command.
I do like it, but it does come with the Amazon way.
Woodg
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Meh I have the imito mx2 box and the wifi range sucks ass. Its useless unless its in the room next to the router.
Fire TV much better in that aspect. The one linked has a exposed antenna so maybe better
FireTV is the fastest Android XBMC solution for a TV...correct me if I'm wrong. Why can't we have a rootable NexusTV running pure android and blasting XBMC Gotham with the full Android Play store as well? Until I can find the right people to take my money and make this happen I'll keeping blocking my FireTV from updating and hoping a glimmer of a FireTV root is coming soon.
HemRoyd said:
I just picked up a 2013 model Sony Bravia TV. It has an MHL port which accepts Sony's Google TV Smart Stick, model NSZ-GU1. I managed to find one of these on eBay for $65 and thought I would try it out...
Although I do have a Fire TV and quite like it, this Bravia Smart Stick seems to outshine the Fire TV in usability, IMHO. There are limitations on Play Store apps you can install, however I have been able to sideload and run the latest Gotham release of XMBC and it runs remarkably well. Unfortunately, I am no a video collector so I can only speak for it's streaming capabilities with addons like MLBMC and a few other unmentionables.
Specs:
• Power supply: via micro USB port or MHL (HDMI) out port.
• Processor : Marvell (DE3108-A1)
• Memory: 1GB RAM / 8GB Flash
• Video out: 720p/60
• Video in: 480p, 720p/60
• Audio out: PCM, DD & DD+
• Audio in: PCM & DD
• Wireless LAN: IEEE 802.11 b/g/n (2.4 GHz)
• Ethernet: none
• MHL (HDMI) out port
• HDMI in port
• IR Blaster out port
• USB 2.0 port: 1
• Bluetooth: ver 3.0
Although the specs pale in comparison to my Fire TV, the voice search capability blows away the FTV. When searching for TV shows or movies, I get result options for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Vudu or Google Play from what I have seen so far. Also, I can do voice internet searches which are launched and displayed in the Chrome browser. Youtube searches are pretty sweet as well - search results are displayed as tiles across the homescreen and as you scroll through them, video titles and info are displayed as well. Can also voice launch applications, including XBMC. The remote works natively in XBMC and I can also toggle back and forth between XBMC and the Google TV environment. Pretty much the majority of features I find lacking in Fire TV are satisfied here. I almost wish I could replace the ROM from the Fire TV with that of the Bravia Stick. Trouble is the stick is limited to 720p, so perhaps it would only run that format, I don't know. At any rate, I'll keep it plugged in to my TV just for the convenient Youtube search functions if anything, and still run my Fire TV.
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That is very cooool! Is that running v4.x of GoogleTV? I had Sony's NSZ-GS7 googleTV box and was hoping they would update, but that doesnt seem like it will ever happen. Pre-v4.x googletv sucks in all facets of life and the only thing I liked about that thing was the remote, which it looks you have with your unit, and the IR blaster capability. If they could have gotten that thing to run decently stable and updated it to V4 it would have been a great device.. That is why i ultimately decided to get my Fire TV.
I just posted a thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52624668) seeing if anyone had connect that remote to the Fire TV since its so awesome.
I have an FTV, but so far I hate having to always go setting, installed apps to run anything i've sideloaded. I'm hoping with root, someone will figure out how to edit the home screen. I can care less about Prime or the front end of FTV. I bought it because of the hardware. I need something kid friendly though. I've tried the cheapo android sticks. Cheap is the best thing I could say about it. Everything ran choppy and very slow.
I loved my NSZ-GS7, Netflix and VIMU ran nice.but no HULU was a deal breaker for cord cutting. So far VIMU for FTV doesn't have AC3 & DTS passthru for MKV so a lot of my videos don't work. Sounds temporary for now...
Until then, I'm still looking for options. The MX2 looked good, but if Wifi suck, that hurts... Anyone used the Neo X7?
Is there a site that does bench marking to compare these devices?
skrypj said:
That is very cooool! Is that running v4.x of GoogleTV?
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Yes, it is running 4.something...I retired the TV and Bravia stick for a week or so while I finish off the room I'm putting it in, so I can't say the exact version. It also updated to Android 4.2.2. Without a doubt, the Smart Stick doesn't compare to the Fire TV in terms of hardware and video capabilities, however it is surprisingly usable out of the box, i.e. it did not require me sifting through a 160 page thread on XBMC forums or this entire sub-forum on XDA to get things to where it didn't require a large amount of acrobatic routines to enjoy an evening of media. Another interesting feature is that I am strictly running OTA signal through a Homeworx PVR-150 and was able to enable it through the Google TV Prime Time app such that I could utilize its guide feature and enjoy live TV right from within the Google TV environment. Pretty slick.
There are a number of devices out there, each with its on redeeming features but still no ideal one-box solution. I think Sony made a decent attempt with this particular device, however it is limited to only Sony televisions and at a retail price of around $149, it is certainly bested performance-wise by the FTV and other devices. All I can say is that if you have a compatible Bravia TV and can get one of these sticks for a song, I highly recommend it for casual use. I'm going to run mine until root opens up more possibilities on the FTV.
HemRoyd said:
Yes, it is running 4.something...I retired the TV and Bravia stick for a week or so while I finish off the room I'm putting it in, so I can't say the exact version. It also updated to Android 4.2.2. Without a doubt, the Smart Stick doesn't compare to the Fire TV in terms of hardware and video capabilities, however it is surprisingly usable out of the box, i.e. it did not require me sifting through a 160 page thread on XBMC forums or this entire sub-forum on XDA to get things to where it didn't require a large amount of acrobatic routines to enjoy an evening of media. Another interesting feature is that I am strictly running OTA signal through a Homeworx PVR-150 and was able to enable it through the Google TV Prime Time app such that I could utilize its guide feature and enjoy live TV right from within the Google TV environment. Pretty slick.
There are a number of devices out there, each with its on redeeming features but still no ideal one-box solution. I think Sony made a decent attempt with this particular device, however it is limited to only Sony televisions and at a retail price of around $149, it is certainly bested performance-wise by the FTV and other devices. All I can say is that if you have a compatible Bravia TV and can get one of these sticks for a song, I highly recommend it for casual use. I'm going to run mine until root opens up more possibilities on the FTV.
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If they updated their NSZ-GS7 & 8 to google TV version 4.x then i think it would be killer combo. The key is being able to sideload apps which is currently not supported since GTV 3.x is so different from android as it exists on phones and tablets. Plus, GTV 4.x also came with the release of the development kit to the general public so anyone can screw with it.
I just ran quadrant on firetv with a score of 10936. This is a very respectable score. My asus infinity scores around 6200, rooted. This is about a 1500 over stock. My galaxy note 10.1 2014 scores about 20000.
Given what firetv is set up to or better yet not to do this score outdoes many if not most tablets other than the very best.
I'll test my dongle but I pretty sure it won't even be close. Don't know how to test roku or Chromecast.
Woody
Dongle wouldn't play quadrant for some reason.
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NVIDIA SHIELD CONSOLE? Android TV SuperComputer Cloud Gaming? WOW

EDIT: Can everyone who visits this thread please take the time to do a official request for adding the SHIELD Console forums? Just visit the below thread and put in your request please. Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
ORIGINAL POST:
Is this a new device coming out this Summer? I don't even see a section at XDA for it, or any mention of it here in these Shield threads, yet its based on Android TV and the Tegra X1, with the below specs. I'm in the market for a Android TV, so this interests me.
http://shield.nvidia.com/
http://shield.nvidia.com/console
Specifications:
Processor NVIDIA® Tegra® X1 processor
256-core Maxwell™ GPU with 3GB RAM
Video Features 4K Ultra-HD ready with 4K playback and capture up to 60 fps (VP9, H265, H264)
Audio 7.1 and 5.1 surround sound pass through over HDMI
High-resolution audio playback up to 24-bit/192 kHz over HDMI and USB
High-resolution audio up-sample to 24-bit/192 kHz over USB
Storage* 16 GB
Wireless 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi
Bluetooth 4.1/BLE
Interfaces Gigabit Ethernet
HDMI 2.0
Two USB 3.0 (Type A)
Micro-USB 2.0
MicroSD slot
IR Receiver (compatible with Logitech Harmony)
Software Updates SHIELD software upgrades directly from NVIDIA
Gaming Features NVIDIA GRID™ game streaming service
NVIDIA Share
NVIDIA GameStream™
Power 40 W power adapter
Weight and Size Weight: 23 oz / 654 g
Height: 5.1 in / 130 mm
Width: 8.3 in / 210 mm
Depth: 1.0 in / 25 mm
Operating System Android TV™, Google Cast™ Ready
Included Apps = PLEX
It is a new android TV console made by Nvidia. The Cpu/GPU is the latest tegra X1 that is insanely fast! Much faster than Snapdragon 810 and Exynos 7.
Release date is in may and will cost 199$
Just saw some games that will be released like Metal Gear rising? will those be on the cloud or it will run natively on the shield it self? if its only on the cloud the this is not a console its just a streaming device that requires very fast internet which not all countries have specially here in the Philippines
RollWii said:
Just saw some games that will be released like Metal Gear rising? will those be on the cloud or it will run natively on the shield it self? if its only on the cloud the this is not a console its just a streaming device that requires very fast internet which not all countries have specially here in the Philippines
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Games like Crysis 3 will run natively on it (not in the cloud).
(Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Correct, there are a few big-name games being modded/re-written to run natively on the platform. Of them, "Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel" , "Doom 3: BFG Edition" , and "Crysis 3". They demoed all of these. Doom3 and Crysis looked like they ran pretty well. Borderlands ran like a slug and obviously needed a lot more optimization.
That being said, they were really pushing the GRID services heavily, and a number of the announced launch titles were actually GRID games (AKA, PC games virtualized in a server center and streamed to your natively like OnLive or Gaikai/PS-Now, but with the improvements that nVidia has learned from the virtualization and distributed/parallel computing sectors). Anybody who has a current SHIELD device (portable or Tablet) and is within the USA should try it on their current devices at least a few times before it goes subscription model. It is currently in beta and free for all Shield devices, but the servers are in the USA, and the lag times may be unacceptable for some games if you are overseas or just have a laggy connection in general. It will officially come out of beta at the time when the Shield Console goes on sale, which will end the year-plus free ride so far.
ryocoon said:
Correct, there are a few big-name games being modded/re-written to run natively on the platform. Of them, "Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel" , "Doom 3: BFG Edition" , and "Crysis 3". They demoed all of these. Doom3 and Crysis looked like they ran pretty well. Borderlands ran like a slug and obviously needed a lot more optimization.
That being said, they were really pushing the GRID services heavily, and a number of the announced launch titles were actually GRID games (AKA, PC games virtualized in a server center and streamed to your natively like OnLive or Gaikai/PS-Now, but with the improvements that nVidia has learned from the virtualization and distributed/parallel computing sectors). Anybody who has a current SHIELD device (portable or Tablet) and is within the USA should try it on their current devices at least a few times before it goes subscription model. It is currently in beta and free for all Shield devices, but the servers are in the USA, and the lag times may be unacceptable for some games if you are overseas or just have a laggy connection in general. It will officially come out of beta at the time when the Shield Console goes on sale, which will end the year-plus free ride so far.
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I'm more interested what it will eventually do for media myself. And it MUST be rootable for me to even consider it as an option. The specs, at least for the Android world are nothing short of brilliant. However, again I want media apps mainly, such as Kodi, Plex, Netflix playback and casting to be flawless. For now the Nexus Player still turns me on more even with it being wifi only. However, If the NVIDIA Console becomes rootable with FULL custom Android ROM's I am going to change my mind in a heartbeat though, haha.
Considering that all of the nVidia devices to date have been extremely easy to unlock and root, I'm going to say that, yeah, it is mostly likely going to be root-able. Whether it can handle Kodi/Plex/Netflix/Etc at 4K is up to those developers. I know NetFlix has 4K content, but I'm not sure how they differentiate and enable it to be honest.
I have the Nexus Player, and I honestly feel a bit like a chump for getting it and so soon this device is announced. I can always use it in another room or something though.
The big rub with Android TV so far is that the default UI, the LeanBack Launcher, will not display some apps unless they declare themselves as leanback capable (which includes some XML, an art asset or two for different shape/size icons, navigation by controller/keys, and search-ability in some cases). This is a problem I've run into on my Nexus Player. Now, nVidia may snub the LeanBack launcher and may integrate some LeanBack function into their nVidia Hub (like on the Shield Tablet and Shield Portable) which recognizes dozens of media apps, games, and some other things and has a launcher in its own UI. However, if apps make themselves noted for LeanBack, they show up fine on the normal AndroidTV interface. What is better, if they include search, then you can voice search for titles in media apps, and if it includes some sort of rating or recommendation feature (like Hulu or YouTube) they can integrate that and you can get recommendations of what to watch directly in your launcher UI on the top row. Less important for games, maybe important for Game discovery, but definitely an interesting thing for the media watchers amongst us. I doubt recommendation would work on something like Plex, and KODI is its own UI entirely, skipping LeanBack or even nVidia hub (to be honest, I've never been a fan of XBMC's UI, and Kodi hasn't won me over yet either... too fidgety and I can't trust a 'normal' person to be able to understand and operate it). Like I stated above, the machine has the horsepower, but it will be up to app developers to show up with a "flawless" app that will work on it well.
Casting works pretty damn well on my Nexus Player, so I bet with MIMO capable AC spec WiFi, and also ethernet inclusion, you will get pretty damn good casting from Chromecast apps, as that is built into AndroidTV's OS.
Mind you a lot of this is based upon speculation on specs, existing hardware, and my knowledge of the AndroidTV OS and how it functions. Your mileage may vary, terms and conditions subject to actual reality upon device launch.
Yeah chances are my mileage will most likely vary, unless for some odd reason I am forced to run the stock Android TV experience. Since 2010 I have not ran anything stock, so not even sure what that is like, and pretty sure I don't want to know, lol. I was thinking about a full rom flashed on it immediately out of the box, installing Nova Launcher, my Planets live wallpaper, throwing up all the streaming apps onto the home screen, and hoping it just works like it did for the Nexus Player user on Youtube. I want to setup my own media streamer home page and experience. 4K would be future proof, but I have no plans to get rid of the 1080p TV that this device will be attached to, not before it naturally dies on me. I still like the Nexus Player as it will fit right in with all my other Nexus devices. I just need to see more development work taking place on it.
SkOrPn said:
Yeah chances are my mileage will most likely vary, unless for some odd reason I am forced to run the stock Android TV experience. Since 2010 I have not ran anything stock, so not even sure what that is like, and pretty sure I don't want to know, lol. I was thinking about a full rom flashed on it immediately out of the box, installing Nova Launcher, my Planets live wallpaper, throwing up all the streaming apps onto the home screen, and hoping it just works like it did for the Nexus Player user on Youtube. I want to setup my own media streamer home page and experience. 4K would be future proof, but I have no plans to get rid of the 1080p TV that this device will be attached to, not before it naturally dies on me. I still like the Nexus Player as it will fit right in with all my other Nexus devices. I just need to see more development work taking place on it.
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I'm still waiting for this device. Hopefully it's better than the garbage that the Razer Forge TV was. The mods and such at the nVidia forums still say it's coming out in may. The Forge didn't release with Netflix, and there might be a chance the same will happen with the Nvidia Shield Android TV, but I'd be ok with Nvidia as they're going to have 4k display support for netflix.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...blet/nvidia-shield-tv-console-release-date/2/
I just got an email from NVIDIA saying its almost here. It starts out saying the wait is over, but then goes on to say its still not available and that they are giving away one Shield Console everyday until it is available to the public. I hate emails that start off telling you the wait is over but then asks you to wait some more, lol...
Its out!
Although only can see USA and Canada
$199.99 for 16GB
$299.99 for 500GB
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv
I'm not personally too interested in the gaming aspects but that amount of GPU power will prove very, very interesting. My main hope is that somebody can produce a minimal linux install for HTPC with Kodi and mpv builds, or perhaps just a release of Debian.
This device is the perfect low-cost HTPC. It should have more than sufficient CPU power for 10-bit h.264 and h.265 decode as well as sufficient compute power on the GPU side for EWA-type resamplers for chroma and image. I'm given to understand the X1 has full desktop opengl compatibility so it ought to be fully compatible with mpv (though I'm unsure of the state of the ARM builds).
The denver CPU should be more than enough to handle metadata crawling and the likes via Kodi in a non-sluggish fashion too. Christ, this device needs more videophile attention...
Just ordered mine on Amazon. It'll be here Sunday.
XDA needs a forum for it. This old shield handheld forum is for a completely different device.
Just ordered mine from Amazon US to be delivered to the UK next week by expedited delivery. What an absolute beast of a machine.
skrowl said:
Just ordered mine on Amazon. It'll be here Sunday.
XDA needs a forum for it. This old shield handheld forum is for a completely different device.
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me too!
returning my fire tv to them for a full refund, and getting this
this will be great to stream my pc to the tv so i can play games like witcher 3 in full 4k 50" vs 1080p 24"
and all the other stuff it does
Full review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9289/the-nvidia-shield-android-tv-review
Shield Console Rooting Experience Thus Far...
Got mine this afternoon and after futzing a bit, tried to root it. It came with developer mode already enabled, one hassle for me is that rebooting to fastboot makes the screen blank so I had to fly blind to oem unlock. So, I've got an unlocked system at the moment, but Super SU is still not working because their is no su on the device. Anyone make it any further than me? I also went ahead and cracked it open to see if there were obvious serial port connection points. Looks like there's a nice spot for a laptop hard drive that is probably populated in the Pro model.
I'm going to look into building my own kernel + ramdisk to try and get the necessary tools in place so SuperSU can work, but I'm a bit worried that the screen isn't going to work and so I'll essentially be flying blind through the whole process.
ericvh said:
Looks like there's a nice spot for a laptop hard drive that is probably populated in the Pro model.
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Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
A.N.Droid said:
Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
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Yeah no SATA connector but there is an option in the settings to install all apps to an external hdd or micro sd card anyways
PS. Anyone know if this will be getting a dedicated XDA Forum? I'll probably be picking one up soon
A.N.Droid said:
Does that that mean there is an internal SATA connector or not?
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Hard to tell for sure, looks like there might be solder points for it, but no header. I've got the 500GB on order, will post the diffs when it arrives.

[Q] General Question - Opinions Wanted

I currently have the FireTV (have a few days left before 30 day window is up) and just purchased the Nexus Player to see how it compares. I much prefer the Nexus Player UI and love android, but trying to see if all the extra work is worth having the Nexus Player. I haven't had a chance to mess around with it too much, but did notice a severely limited number of apps available through play store. I knew this was going to be an issue - but still surprised me. First I will outline what type of user I am and then I am curious your thoughts on Fire vs NP
User:
Pretty basic user. I will use my box for Kodi and then a few apps such as HBO, Showtime, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Youtube, etc. I do like the idea of this being android and another option for casting from my phone. I am a entrenched with the google suite of products so I see this as a plus as well. I am able to do some basic operations such as sideloading and such, but typically have to follow a step-by-step process. I loaded Kodi.TV just fine on my FireTV.
I am looking for a somewhat simple solution, but am willing do a small amount of work if the UX/UI is definitely better. I guess I am starting to wonder if a NP is going to be a constant fight and worth it to considering I won't be gaming, or other things that may be great on the NP.
What is everyone's thoughts? Feel free to ask me questions as well and thank you in advance for your help.
I own and use both(different rooms) and the firetv does amazon instant where the nexus player doesn't(kodi addon is hit or miss). I have also had less issues with kodi on the firetv. I had to disable sleep to get kodi to work right on the nexus. I have not seen an hbogo app on the nexus player where the firetv has that. The plus side to the player is it is easy to do what u want on it.
With as much as I like the firetv once my prime is up I'm getting rid of it for another nexus player as amazon has **** customer service when it comes to the firetv devices. I had a tv stick I used that died and after fighting with their cs for a few hours I hung up and went and bought the nexus. Also the fire devices are Android they are just not stock. Sideloading on both devices is the same process(adb or a file explorer).
With HBO and Amazon Prime aren't I able to sideload those apps on the the Nexus Player? If so how do most popular side loaded apps perform?
u can use the normal amazon prime app but u need a mouse to nav it, same with the habogo. there was an androidtv amazon app from a sony tv but amazon blocked it from working on anything but the sony tv. if the app doesnt work well with the remote(most dont) u need a mouse

Nexus Player UK owners

I own both a nexus Player and a Fire TV and it seems that there is very little in the way of apps on the Nexus Player. It is great for Kodi and netflix but that seems about it, there is TV Player but the quality of the picture is not great and I notice that on the Nexus Player and Fire TV it can be a bit buggy to start sometimes. None of the national broadcasters have any apps and things in general for video are slim pickings.
Are there any worth while apps to get? I like the way Pluto TV integrates with the Live Channels app so was thinking of getting a TV tuner for my PC to rig up all the OTA channels. Its a great little box with a reasonably nice interface but app support is sorely lacking. I would have thought that with it being a TV platform that other manufactures are using it would have had a massive catalogue by now.
I own an Nvidia Shield Android TV which like many non-Nexus Android TV devices has a device-specific iPlayer app. You could try side-loading it, though I doubt that would work. Here's a link to the forum where you can find the .apk anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/general/nvidia-shield-android-tv-uk-t3214570/page4
I have no idea exactly why the BBC is making its service only partially available on the platform. Amazon are doing the same by only making Prime Video available on Sony Android TVs, but they obviously have their commercial reasons as they run the competing Fire TV platform.
On a side note I recently heard that there was a new Prime Video add-on for Kodi, though you'll have to try this for yourself as I haven't had a chance yet.
It seems that Channel 4 and ITV have no interest in the platform, however the Fire TV is itself a running a fork of Android. Maybe you could try ripping some of the .apks (such as iPlayer and 4OD) from the Fire TV and side-loading onto the Nexus Player. Again I doubt this will work smoothly but maybe it's worth a shot.
Other than that though, let's just cross our fingers and hope that we haven't invested in Google TV 2.0.

Need help with this android tablet/tv

Hello everyone,
I have found this awsome android tablet/tv in one of a friends work he was gona throw it away. I thougt it was cool to take it and check it out. It runs and its a clean install i think. It runs android 7. But i want to install a higher version of android on it and use it as a tv. Can someone help me out with this?
I will provide full pictures of the parts inside and the os installed.
Specs:
16gb internal space
2gb of ram
touchscreen 15 or 17inch
Build in speakers
I thank you all for helping me.
Android tablets are good for watching video, browsing the web, reading, checking email, and playing games, and some people even manage to get work done on one. Tablets are also great first devices for kids (though we prefer the iPad or the Kindle Fire to regular Android tablets for this purpose). The market is mostly stagnant, with old devices and outdated versions of Android dominating it. The best modern Android tablet is way more expensive than an iPad, which makes it a waste for casual users.

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