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I didn't notice a thread for Odroid on xda, so I'm gonna start one
I just got an odroid friday for $200 USD http://www.hardkernel.com/
I've played around with it a bit, it's running a "stable" 1.5 and as of 22feb2010 you can flash a alpha enclair 2.1 pre-release I feel 2.1 is fairly stable on Odroid but that's just my opinion
How to get Google apps on Odroid with AOSP 2.1
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Download GoogleBits-sdk7-v1.7-signed.zip (RapidShare, Megaupload, DepositFile, HotFile)
Unzip it in c:\sdk-android\tools\GoogleBits\
Connect USB to your PC
Type the following commands:
Code:
cd c:\android-sdk\tools\
adb remount
adb push GoogleBits\system\framework /system/framework
adb push GoogleBits\system\lib /system/lib
adb push GoogleBits\system\app /system/app
adb reboot
Google bits 1.9 located here *untested*
also feel free to discuss development for odroid here as well.
Haha, the best replecement for Gameboy i have ever seen just insall gemeboid emulator there and you have the softwere, for hardware i already see there are gaming butons everywhere But is that screen rly 3.5? Look so small...
yea it's 3.5 inch, capacitve glass touch screen... it's a pretty decent little handheld. It's not up with the best as far as portable game consoles, but it's by far the best solution for android gaming in a portable. Plays snesoid really decently for snes emulation.
open hardware and unbrickable, community driven development... I think it's pretty cool investment... at least for me it was.
I've bad my xu3 for a while now.. looking to compile latest debian kernel. however, i'm having trouble determining whether I could put arm64 on it. Initially i thought so, but i think there is only 32bit support on the .little side of the cpu.
thoughts?
I have oDroid Xu4 and it's pretty good, I did manage to get Nougat running on it, and as of now im installing apps
I got a C2 and I must say this is the first SBC that I am totally satisfied with in my livingroom as an all round media box.
It is running 6.0.1 and just simply works for everything I have tried.
Kodi
Terrarium
BBC iPlayer
CBC TV App
Netflix
Surfing the net / Facebook
Music via PowerAmp
A number of games (pool 3d with an air mouse is great fun)
Nothing slows it down... simply love it.
The kicker is it costs less then $100
I have also a C2 for a few weeks now also on Android 6.01.
Have running Kodi only for my Kid so i don't have to encode any movies anymore as my Philips Smart tv (2010) is a drag when it comes to media support. If a tiny thing in the movie is not correct then it don't play. So this C2 is great. It's faster then Raspberry 3. But support is not great on the Hardkernel forum. Bought it in Germany for 49,- Euro plus shipping and a plastic box, totall 64,- euro to the Netherlands. I love it and works stable. It's a 64bit processor, but there is no 64bit OS.....but now fast enough on 32bit. But i paid for 64bit so i want it to run on 64bit too . But for support sakes next time i think i go for Raspberry. The community is much bigger, so more solutions.
Run Debian and Android on ODROID-C1/ODROID-C2
Hi,
My company makes a unified OS (VOLKSPC OS) that can run both Android and Debian applications.
We have ported it to several ARM SOC's and single board computers. Youtube has a video clip of our VOLKSPC OS running on the ODROID-C2 board.
You can download a free version for ODROID-C1 from volkspc.org Demo page.
VolksPC
@OldGaf or @JJSJJS you guys have android running on your C2s right? have you tried installing Android Auto on them? if not is there any way I could compel you to give it a shot and let me know if it can be installed?
I want to get one and use to run android auto on my car, but I've tried a couple other sbcs like the rpi and I can't seem to install it on them; if you're willing to try, getting the apk is easy from apkmirror.
Thanks.
Hi, well there is an option in the Odroid menu to install manually APK's. But i'm not going to do it, because it's running just fine now and it is for my daughter just to run Kodi so she can watch animations as my Philips TV does not decode everything correctly. But i recommend not to buy it and stick with Rpi, not because it's better, it's because of the service and the much much bigger community. So if you did not buy it yet, then don't. Just because of the lack of support and tiny community. A colleague of mine uses a android-tablet also with some sort of auto apk on which reads out info via an cheap 6$ china OBCD2 plug interface, seems to be working well. Much easier also.
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Hi, well there is an option in the Odroid menu to install manually APK's. But i'm not going to do it, because it's running just fine now and it is for my daughter just to run Kodi so she can watch animations as my Philips TV does not decode everything correctly. But i recommend not to buy it and stick with Rpi, not because it's better, it's because of the service and the much much bigger community. So if you did not buy it yet, then don't. Just because of the lack of support and tiny community. A colleague of mine uses a android-tablet also with some sort of auto apk on which reads out info via an cheap 6$ china OBCD2 plug interface, seems to be working well. Much easier also.
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That's alright JJS, don't mess with something that works, I have the rpi and it works well enough, but well enough is not what I want, a tablet wouldn't do either, because I don't want to modify my dashboard to fit one, i already have a screen mounted for an sbc tho. thanks for the reply.
Odroid support
VolksPC,
Can you post a link to your videos for support? I'm looking to install Android 6.0+ or Android TV on my C1.
Thanks,
KDKid
VolksPC said:
Hi,
My company makes a unified OS (VOLKSPC OS) that can run both Android and Debian applications.
We have ported it to several ARM SOC's and single board computers. Youtube has a video clip of our VOLKSPC OS running on the ODROID-C2 board.
You can download a free version for ODROID-C1 from volkspc.org Demo page.
VolksPC
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OldGaf said:
I got a C2 and I must say this is the first SBC that I am totally satisfied with in my livingroom as an all round media box.
It is running 6.0.1 and just simply works for everything I have tried.
Kodi
Terrarium
BBC iPlayer
CBC TV App
Netflix
Surfing the net / Facebook
Music via PowerAmp
A number of games (pool 3d with an air mouse is great fun)
Nothing slows it down... simply love it.
The kicker is it costs less then $100
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@OldGaf, are you running Android or Android TV on your C2?
Hey Guys,
I'm on the fence on getting this for my birthday (Aug 6th) but I have a few concerns. I have done a lot of research but am coming up empty on these questions.
1.) eBooks. I love Kindle and Nook and as a full time college student it is imperative that I have access to these two apps. Are they available for the Tab with Tablet optimization?
2.) Application support. I love Netflix and I see that that it is not supported or available yet (even with the APK). This is the same for Hulu (sorry it's ridiculous that you need to root and use a hacked flash that will more than likely be blocked like most exploits for Hulu), so is there any chance that these apps will be available by year's end for the Tab?
3.) I love gaming as well, how is that for the tab? (I'm talk along the lines of Nova, Assassin's Creed, Plant's vs Zombies, etc...) While I like Angry Birds, I'm not spending $500 for something I can play in my Chrome Browser.
4.) Is it really worth it?
I detest Apple with a passion and thus I am trying to avoid getting an iPad 2, but with a fully working Hulu app and Netflix app it's tempting though I would like a tablet that will compliment my future Samsung Attain (Galaxy S 2 on AT&T when launched...whenever that is).
Thank You
1) Sure. Ebooks are no problem. My favorite (Mantano reader) also says it's honeycomb ready - so it should work. The display is awesomely sharp and beats the Ipad in display quality.
2) Pretty sure they will update Netflix for tablets, they have an official version out:
https://market.android.com/search?q=netflix&so=1&c=apps
3) Yes you can play on it, but thats and "app question" and android can't beat the Ipad on that one. If optimized for tegra, it blows the Ipad stuff away. More polygons and still more FPS. Those chips are from Nvidia...
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-zone.html
There are also more games for it but not tegra optimized.
4) You need to know the answer to this one. Do you really need/want a tablet or are you just hyped?
There is a tablet optimized version of nook and kindle. Netflix said that 10.1 is going to to be the first honeycomb tablet to get it soon. Its a great tablet emulator work nice, and the game loft games that they have made available work great. There is also a decent number of terra 2 optimized games. Ipad has alot of useful apps for college, more games, and higher quality apps in general. Lack of a flash player on the ipad is extremely annoying, and the UI is really boring and restricted. Can't run emulators on the Ipad because apple blocks them. Browser on honeycomb is really buggy when it comes to text entry, ipad browser is smooth and stable, but honeycomb has more features.
I have both and I use m galaxy tab much more. Just wish app development would pick up
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1. Haven't looked at the Nook app, but the Kindle app looks nice on Honeycomb.
2. Hard to say what Netflix and Hulu are doing. Netflix has promised more device support. But we have no idea when. And it's been a long wait already.
3. Android gaming is decent. There seem to be enough good games that I don't think I would shy away from an Android tablet for this reason. But I do believe iPad does have an advantage here in numbers and sometimes quality. Plants vs Zombies for example is lower resolution on Android, while iPad has an HD version. Also Anandtech.com did find the Apple A5 to be a more powerful processor than the Tegra 2 (Tegra 2 is older afterall).
4. In my opinion, Android 3 isn't ready for me. I've decided to return mine and hope Android 4 is more stable later this year.
I don't care much for Apple either. I bought my first Apple device last year, the iPad 1 because there were no good 10 inch Android tablets (Viewsonic G-Tablet and upcoming Archos 101 were pretty low end running Android 2.2 and no Google apps). So I folded and got the iPad. Probably took me a good two weeks to get used to all the things I can't do with it, and I'm still kinda hating iTunes. But the iPad has excellent apps and lots of them (100,000 now tablet optimized). And it's really the apps I use it the most for anyway.
If I had some assurance from Samsung that they would update to Android 4.0 rather soon after it's release this fall, I might have been willing to live with the GT 10.1. But I'm still waiting for Samsung to release Gingerbread on my Galaxy S Vibrant, so I'm not confident.
This tablet is a lot better with opera mobile installed. no more typing lag while browsing .
1. Yes Kindle is tablet optimized so it is on par with ipad 2 IMHO it exceeds it. There is also a wide variety of Ebook readers that are tablet optimized in the market place.
2.Well i actually believe there should be a netflix app for this tab soon. Remember that netflix for android is really new and is still barley rolling out for phones! so a honeycomb app shouldn't be all too far fetched. Remember, netflix is really trying to expand its streaming services and in order to do that it needs to sink into as many devices as possible that's why you see a netflix logo on all sorts of devices, ps3,xbox,ipad,iphone,blu-ray players, there is not reason a tablet version should not be possible especially with the popularity of the ipad app.
3. Gaming well its hard to judge it really depends on what you want to play. Yes there are games on here that you listed like NOVA and plants and zombies, there are also console quality games that are tegra optimized that blows the ipad games out of the water only problem is there isn't all too many but with the awesome color screen the 10.1 has they sure look better. And lastly there is tons of emulators in the market place for all kind of consoles so your tab can run Ps1,n64,gba,gbc,snes games with no problem!
4. hmm well i bought it in all the hype but i always wanted a tablet for some reason and i bought it and can honestly say it is worth it at the moment but i feel its will be way more worth it later on lets say android icecream sandwhich! but if you can get the tab now go for it!
I'm in the market for an eInk device to be used exclusively for non-ebook purposes. I need something with the battery life of an ereader as opposed to that of an LCD based tablet. My application does not require the flashy color, or the fast redraw of an LCD, it's simply going to be an interface for a control system of sorts. The UI will not require scrolling but be primarily page based, and no high frame rate video. The most advanced thing that might be displayed is the occasional slow update grayscale "video" (maybe a frame or two a second at the most but even that's not terribly likely). Touch is required and a lit screen would be a big plus (hence the list of devices I mentioned). I also require wifi connectivity, cellular is not important and would never be used.
I do like the idea of using a device that runs Android as it would give me a greater number of options for development. While I may stick with HTML5 and JS I also like the possibility of writing a true Android application. I'm not interested in Android Play or any of the other Gapps, though I suppose I could sideload them if I feel the need. I will most likely be running a very simple custom launcher so that the device operates more like a purpose built embedded platform rather than a general purpose Android tablet.
My question is what device would the experts here at XDA recommend I use? The Kindle has the benefit of the 800 pound gorilla that is Amazon but it doesn't run Android natively. Nook has the benefit of a decent sized company behind it, the fact that it runs Android, the downside is I'm not entirely clear on how long B&N will stand behind their eInk devices. Kobo is the little guy in the corner, I know next to nothing about the company, the build quality of the device, or the future of the eInk devices, but like the Nook it appears to run some version of Android.
In truth, it's not really all that important that the device I choose be offered forever. This is a personal project, nothing that's going to market. What's more important is hackability, Android, and at least the possibility for newer custom Android ROMs to be installed.
Thank you for your help.
--adam
P.S. If this is the incorrect forum for this I apologize.
I think a Nook and a native Android app will be fine for control purposes.
I'd avoid the whole HTML5 stuff.
It's easier to get lean, mean, responsive if you stay away from browsers.
There is already enough interchangeability among Android devices.
E-Ink options
True grayscale video of any quality would be a stretch as you'd likely be dealing with refresh flashing between frames at even 1fps. Every hack I've seen for improving refresh behavior involves switching to 1-bit color depth. Some solutions preserve the appearance of grayscale through halftoning like a newspaper photo at the expense of image resolution.
One thing's for certain about the Nook Touch series, you'll never get anything newer than android 2.1 on it. A number of closed binary drivers need to be replaced for truly custom firmwares and you'd be limited on RAM anyhow. You will not be able to expect B&N to stand behind the product line in the future. Note that the most recent 4gb NSTglowlight lacks an SD slot and is thus more difficult to root. That said, I'm very pleased with my Glowlight as a bare-bones Android device.
The Kobo Aura HD tablet would at least get you Android 2.3 and is rootable. I'm not certain how strong its developer community might be. One advantage over the Nook seems to be more even distribution of light across the display surface but I can't confirm from hands-on experience.
If you're comfortable with Linux, you might want to consider the Onyx Boox. There's at least a few scraps of information on the manufacturer's site about developing custom Qt apps for the Boox platform. Onyx has announced new tablets using Android but they don't seem to be available in the wild yet.
PocketBook out of Europe supposedly makes all sorts of e-ink Linux tablets, little, big, and waterproof; I'll be damned if I could tell you how to buy them though. Any evidence of purchasable shipped product I can find in English regards old models and dates from a couple of years ago.
Personally, I'm hoping the Earl GPS/walkie talkie Android tablet makes it out of vaporware.
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Note that the most recent 4gb NSTglowlight lacks an SD slot and is thus more difficult to root.
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Not so. Now that the development on USB booting has been done, it's trivial.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51742352&postcount=373
Renate NST said:
Not so. Now that the development on USB booting has been done, it's trivial.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51742352&postcount=373
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I stand corrected!
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I stand corrected!
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Consider the Onyx Boox T68. Similar specs to Kobo Aura HD, and it runs Android 4.04. A bit more expensive, but maybe what you're looking for.
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I echo the t68 comment. I got mine from Amazon a few weeks ago and it even shipped with prime shipping and was only $200. Totally worth it as an EReader. IDK of it would work for your purposes. But it comes with the play store and I haven't had any issues with it installing any app I've thrown at it.
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dont' think i've ever had a device so locked down that wasn't a total dog with this little talk going on. Bravo amazon... you broke XDA
Someone had to say it
I keep telling myself not to regret this purchase yet....just wait a little longer, but the lack of talk going on in the HDX forum is quite depressing and far from reassuring
Am I the only one who likes the tablet as-is without any modifications? The app selection leaves a bit to be desired but all the major media apps are represented (Spotify, Rdio, Hulu, Netflix, etc...) and there are plenty of games available. The only thing that irks me is not being able to play content I already purchased on Google Play, but it's not enough to kill the device for me.
I used to feel myself regretful until I have discovered 1mobile market. Now, beside I cannot change wallpaper, I have decent launcher and a market that is comparable to the Google play. Ok root and custom rooms would be nice, also do I enjoy using HDX. Even, I could choice one more time, I would still (wait ) take HDX because it's specs and weight.
Before buying the HDX I've tried high end Asus and Samsung devices, which were really of poor quality and performance (user experience, not synthesized benchmarks).
I don't think this is over yet....
I do not think it's impossible to root Amazon Kindle HDX, as long as there is developers who keeps this project alive, there is still hope! Why is it so hard to root the last update! Wouldn't it be good to discuss this at a thread in the forum? How far have you come? Where in the process is it impossible to reach further? Then we could help each other! Will Amazon really emerge victorious out of this battle? I think not!
raptir said:
Am I the only one who likes the tablet as-is without any modifications? The app selection leaves a bit to be desired but all the major media apps are represented (Spotify, Rdio, Hulu, Netflix, etc...) and there are plenty of games available. The only thing that irks me is not being able to play content I already purchased on Google Play, but it's not enough to kill the device for me.
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Had I done more proper research, I would have gone with the Nexus 7 to be honest. I'm not a fan of this device in it's default form. I know I made the mistake of jumping in based on specs and a sale that was going on at the time, but I wish it were more Android through and through. I'm not a fan of the Amazon Fire OS GUI, and not being able to get Gapps by default was a serious oversight on my part....that's my main regret. The device performs just fine and the specs don't disappoint. I simply should have done more research on the rooting and unlocking bootloader side
dimi5 said:
I used to feel myself regretful until I have discovered 1mobile market. Now, beside I cannot change wallpaper, I have decent launcher and a market that is comparable to the Google play. Ok root and custom rooms would be nice, also do I enjoy using HDX. Even, I could choice one more time, I would still (wait ) take HDX because it's specs and weight.
Before buying the HDX I've tried high end Asus and Samsung devices, which were really of poor quality and performance (user experience, not synthesized benchmarks).
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Atise said:
I do not think it's impossible to root Amazon Kindle HDX, as long as there is developers who keeps this project alive, there is still hope! Why is it so hard to root the last update! Wouldn't it be good to discuss this at a thread in the forum? How far have you come? Where in the process is it impossible to reach further? Then we could help each other! Will Amazon really emerge victorious out of this battle? I think not!
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I guess I should add that I am still one of the lucky ones. I do have root still and as long as I keep playing it safe, I don't see me ever losing root. With that said, I guess my depressed and non-reassuring comment is a bit more selfish and on the getting an unlocked bootloader side of things. Of course, I definitely don't see that happening until a new root is found to get everyone back at the same place with root access.
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Had I done more proper research, I would have gone with the Nexus 7 to be honest. I'm not a fan of this device in it's default form. I know I made the mistake of jumping in based on specs and a sale that was going on at the time, but I wish it were more Android through and through. I'm not a fan of the Amazon Fire OS GUI, and not being able to get Gapps by default was a serious oversight on my part....that's my main regret. The device performs just fine and the specs don't disappoint. I simply should have done more research on the rooting and unlocking bootloader side
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I have a first-gen Nexus 7 and was considering the 2013 model but decided on the Kindle Fire HDX even knowing that it couldn't be rooted. My usage of the Nexus 7 was mostly reading (through the Kindle app) and watching videos (Hulu, Netflix). I played a few games on it but I'm fine with Amazon's selection. I went with the Kindle HDX because I could get 64GB of storage for only slightly more than the 32GB Nexus 7 and also gain support for Prime Instant Video.
Edit: I will say, I like being able to tinker with my Nexus 5 but I feel that the enhancements that come with custom ROMs are more important to me on a phone rather than a tablet. With a tablet I typically open a single app and use that for a prolonged period of time so I don't see much of the interface.
Yep. I agree with raptir. It was fun while it lasted but I notice now, I don't even need custom ROM. As long as I have my prime and xbmc, life is good.
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I am doing the exact same thing I did with my 16GB Nook Tablet noneHD version when I had it for 2 years. I upgraded to the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 for the larger screen and newer hardware for movie playback across the network via DLNA. I also use it for reading and have finished several books on it and the Nook alike. Nook was running CM 10 but I felt like I could have just kept the basic B&N OS around for what I did with it. I still feel the same way about the Kindle Fire HDX. Stock handles everything I throw at it and I can keep my apps updated thanks to 1mobile. Things like Skifta and MX player along with Cool Reader for epub and mobi formatted books that I have had forever and did not get through amazon. For me the kindle/nook are Media consumption devices and they fill that roll pretty nicely with stock. The kindle more so becuase of the updated OS and larger screen along with newer hardware that is capible of 1080p playback via network unlike the nook where it would struggle with 720p playback for me.
IMHO, it's a fine MEDIA device, but not so much a regular tablet.
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IMHO, it's a fine MEDIA device, but not so much a regular tablet.
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Pay attention. The Tech Geeks have decreed that this tablet must die. It must fail simply because Amazon has decided to be douchy about it. It must no be rooted and it must not be recommend. Amazon worked very hard to get this. I for one am going to do all I can to give them what they want. Kindle needs to go the way of the Nook which actually was better than kindle but not as popular imho lol. Regardless, Death to the kindle line.
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IMHO, it's a fine MEDIA device, but not so much a regular tablet.
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i agree... however if i didnt' have amazon instant i wouldnt' even like it for that. my feedly crashes constantly, and i get way too many random reboots on this thing.
HOWEVER its become my treadmill partner thanks to the ability to download amazon instant
Pay attention. This thing is hard to hack, therefore it must die.
Listen to yourself saying that, 100 times.
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IMHO, it's a fine MEDIA device, but not so much a regular tablet.
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I guess that's where my opinion may differ from others'. To me, a tablet is primarily a media device. Movies, TV shows, books, games, news, etc... which all work great on the Fire. Productivity is the one place that it really falls short, but even with my Nexus 7 I still prefer my laptop for productivity.
just keep it offline for the next few months...an exploit is going to be found and published, it's happened with the previous firmware versions...
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I guess that's where my opinion may differ from others'. To me, a tablet is primarily a media device. Movies, TV shows, books, games, news, etc... which all work great on the Fire. Productivity is the one place that it really falls short, but even with my Nexus 7 I still prefer my laptop for productivity.
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Depends on the media content. You can mostly work.around the YouTube issues with Google services, but that is a disadvantage other tablets don't have. I watch a lot of flash content on streaming movie sites and have found some ways to work around nuisances on most sites as well but without a good rooted pop-up blocker it is a disadvantage . It streams Amazon content fairly well but I learned how to do that long ago on a regular tablet. The screen is very nice and smooth though.
To the other guy. It isnt that the tablet must die because it's hard to hack. The tablet must die to teach corporations that they either give the public what they want or they lose. Simple pleasures I enjoy every day on normal tablets are either un attainable on the hdx or difficult at best, even if the build quality is excellent, and the hardware is outstanding Amazon needs an attitude adjustment.
FireOS is NOT Android. Never claimed to be. The current result is quite workable dual-use. I can use Unbeloved Host and/or AdAway and/or Chrome to block most ads. Amazon never designed an Android tablet. Amazon designed an AMAZON tablet (which happens to run an Android Fork).
Your "boycott" of Kindle HDX line is not going to have ANY effect on Amazon except deprive yourself, but then, you already own one. At best it's a mixed message. And you show a distinct lack of faith on ingenuity of the XDA Developer Community.
I have both Google Play services running fine along side Amazon services. I Chromecasted a bunch of cat videos to my TV today (there are two cats in the house). I download from both app stores, sometimes simultaneously. I am rooted and Xposed and Safestrapped and so on and so forth.
In other words, it's basically what you're willing to live with. Your have a different tolerance point than I do. The difference is you want Amazon to go against its nature and give you what you want, whereas I decided that the current HDX (well, technically last year's HDX) is quite usable as is with a few hacks.
Just because people aren't talking doesn't mean they aren't trying to work on it. Things come to those that are patient.
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FireOS is NOT Android. Never claimed to be. The current result is quite workable dual-use. I can use Unbeloved Host and/or AdAway and/or Chrome to block most ads. Amazon never designed an Android tablet. Amazon designed an AMAZON tablet (which happens to run an Android Fork).
Your "boycott" of Kindle HDX line is not going to have ANY effect on Amazon except deprive yourself, but then, you already own one. At best it's a mixed message. And you show a distinct lack of faith on ingenuity of the XDA Developer Community.
I have both Google Play services running fine along side Amazon services. I Chromecasted a bunch of cat videos to my TV today (there are two cats in the house). I download from both app stores, sometimes simultaneously. I am rooted and Xposed and Safestrapped and so on and so forth.
In other words, it's basically what you're willing to live with. Your have a different tolerance point than I do. The difference is you want Amazon to go against its nature and give you what you want, whereas I decided that the current HDX (well, technically last year's HDX) is quite usable as is with a few hacks.
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I'm not depriving myself in any way. I own literally dozens of tablets. I never claimed kindle as an android tablet. I claim it as an inferior product because it's OS holds it back since it is limited in many aspects that both Apple and Android have excelled in. Your argument is fragmented and invalid. You had to root in order to achieve your results. Asking for simple things such as a keyboard that half works or some control over turning off double space to period, simple things like widgets, well if that is against Amazon's nature then yes I am quite against Amazon tablets lol.
Would you like the option to buy a $149 Nexus Player with 64gb, 2gb ram, & Ethernet?
Hell throw in some full size USB 3.0 ports and an sd card slot and I would gladly pay $199 for the device.
I don't understand why Google didn't unveil two versions of the Nexus Player, one with more storage for $50 more. They have always released a more expensive bigger capacity version of all their Nexus devices, phones and tablets in the past.
I suspect that price and those specs would be a fantasy. I would suspect that for $149, you'd get 32GB internal and 2GB RAM, or 16GB internal, 2GB RAM, and ethernet.
If they were to release another device with better specs, I might get it, but only as something to run Ubuntu on.
My thinking is: this is designed as a streaming device. You don't need insane specs to stream a video or some music. It is also designed to handle games, but generally arcade-style games; light on the graphics and more targeted as a family/party gaming device. This also has plenty of power for emulators.
The point of high specs on a phone or tablet is so that you can play games when you're away from home. If you're going to plan on playing graphics-intensive console games in your living room, there are already devices for that. It's going to be quite a few more years before the big game franchises are running commercials that say "Coming this November to Xbox, PlayStation, and Android."
Again, with storage, if you've already got some big library of movies and music, it's going to be on your computer, and you can always stream it over your network.
The only major hardware failing, in my mind, is that they really missed the opportunity to upsell with a $15 Nexus-Player-branded OTG Ethernet dongle.
Plus when you start geting in the $150-$250 price range, you open up a lot better options in home streaming that leave android based systems behind. Non-android HTPC's start at that price point and nothing in the android line can compete because everything including speed, audio, and video out performs android. The android market is a $100 plug and play unit, something simple to set up and cheap.
I don't see the need for 64gb, unless you plan on installing 30 games.
Ethernet would be useful, but not necessary as long as you have a good WiFi router and you're not trying to use the router from your cable provider.
I don't see the need for USB 3.0 either. Most peripherals work fine on 2.0, even interface devices don't need more than USB 1.0. The only advantage I see 3.0 having is when connected to a storage device, and even then you wouldn't really have an advantage over 2.0. Then again, connecting storage defeats the purpose of a streaming device.
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I suspect that price and those specs would be a fantasy. I would suspect that for $149, you'd get 32GB internal and 2GB RAM, or 16GB internal, 2GB RAM, and ethernet.
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That should be awsome 1GB ram i think is a bit to low
OP pics u still rockin that TILT or i dnt believe u
The fire TV has more RAM and it's the same price.
I would.
Some may suggest I stream everything from my PC, but what if I want to bring my collection with me? 8gb HD, so really 7gb usable. A couple big games, a little bit of music, and 2 HD movies, and that's full. Doing TV, you could fit MAYBE a full season of a 1-hour show on there, and you'd need to uninstall your games.
Am I the only one who brings my blu-ray player and a binder of movies with me when I travel?
I want 64gb of storage because it would be an amazing gaming and emulator machine with that. It has an amazing cpu and gpu, way better than even the firetv. If only it had some more storage, it would be perfect.
I think storage is the main issue with the device. Yes, it is made for streaming video but it is also designed as a gaming device (hence the official gamepad accessory). 8GB of storage is just not enough. 16GB would be adequate but 32GB is really ideal. with 8GB of storage you'd only end up with about 5.5GB of usable space, and there are games that take up over 1GB on their own.
I don't think I would. $99 is kind of the sweet-spot for a standalone TV "puck", IMO. Any higher than that just feels like a half measure to me. If you're going $150, then you might as well just go to $200-$300 and run an atom or i3-based PC.
Also, the ethernet thing is way overblow. Get an AC router and sleep well at night.
I would certainly jump on some of that price tag. Would also like to have more information on the soc it use, I do not see much information on it around!
Jon Stewart said:
Hell throw in some full size USB 3.0 ports and an sd card slot and I would gladly pay $199 for the device.
I don't understand why Google didn't unveil two versions of the Nexus Player, one with more storage for $50 more. They have always released a more expensive bigger capacity version of all their Nexus devices, phones and tablets in the past.
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No, but I'd like a $99 version with 4GB RAM and replaceable SSD.
TBH I cant ever see the player being the "right" value point, as it stands might as well go buy a lowend NUC(or like) device and have pretty much the freedom to load it up with whatever amt of ram/storage and then IF you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to install x86 android, but personally I'd just slap a lightweight linux distro, xbmc, plex, and steam on it... maybe dual boot a tiny android setup, but linux would be the default...
I did finally pick up a chromebook though, but the highend C720 i3/4GB that got SSD upgrade and croutonized for now. CrOS was less useless than I expected it to be, but running CrOS alone only the cheapest models are of any value purely as 2ndary or tertiary notebooks. I;m actually using Cros quite a bit for web browsing, probably never touch another tablet again unless I need an ereader in a pinch if I forget to charge the kindle(and it;s not a bright sunny day/location so lets hope batt only croaks at night).
So how does this add in? I found tablets only slightly useful for web browsing and occasional PDFs. Entry of anything relatively complex was a PITA -> overgrown phone -> Crbook (conceptually my tablet replacement , small, light, has keyboard and trackpad and as a bonus can be semi-useful linux notebook). TV, well I currently have a Roku 3 which is OK, but since AppleTV, GoogleTV, chromecast, amazon stuck in amazonland stick, generic Android/ARM sticks weren't enough to supplant the Roku3, HOWEVER I am(/have been) considering what I wrote above with a NUC or like as a tiny HTPC running linux and that sums up how I feel about most of these devices. So many looking for a problem to solve or partially solving a problem that superior devices already do so at similar(with better specs) or MUCH lower prices.
I'm not going to talk about the "smart" watches other than the above also applies in an even worse case to them(no problem to solve at all) and that they're not actually smart at all(mostly and the ones that are kinda smart are just idiot savants in a useless field).
Glass OTOH could potentially be very useful with a capability of recognizing and overlaying schematics/etc but not $1.5k useful.
So long and short player is already too expensively useless, why make it more so?
cutterjohn said:
No, but I'd like a $99 version with 4GB RAM and replaceable SSD.
TBH I cant ever see the player being the "right" value point, as it stands might as well go buy a lowend NUC(or like) device and have pretty much the freedom to load it up with whatever amt of ram/storage and then IF you REALLY REALLY REALLY want to install x86 android, but personally I'd just slap a lightweight linux distro, xbmc, plex, and steam on it... maybe dual boot a tiny android setup, but linux would be the default...
I did finally pick up a chromebook though, but the highend C720 i3/4GB that got SSD upgrade and croutonized for now. CrOS was less useless than I expected it to be, but running CrOS alone only the cheapest models are of any value purely as 2ndary or tertiary notebooks. I;m actually using Cros quite a bit for web browsing, probably never touch another tablet again unless I need an ereader in a pinch if I forget to charge the kindle(and it;s not a bright sunny day/location so lets hope batt only croaks at night).
So how does this add in? I found tablets only slightly useful for web browsing and occasional PDFs. Entry of anything relatively complex was a PITA -> overgrown phone -> Crbook (conceptually my tablet replacement , small, light, has keyboard and trackpad and as a bonus can be semi-useful linux notebook). TV, well I currently have a Roku 3 which is OK, but since AppleTV, GoogleTV, chromecast, amazon stuck in amazonland stick, generic Android/ARM sticks weren't enough to supplant the Roku3, HOWEVER I am(/have been) considering what I wrote above with a NUC or like as a tiny HTPC running linux and that sums up how I feel about most of these devices. So many looking for a problem to solve or partially solving a problem that superior devices already do so at similar(with better specs) or MUCH lower prices.
I'm not going to talk about the "smart" watches other than the above also applies in an even worse case to them(no problem to solve at all) and that they're not actually smart at all(mostly and the ones that are kinda smart are just idiot savants in a useless field).
Glass OTOH could potentially be very useful with a capability of recognizing and overlaying schematics/etc but not $1.5k useful.
So long and short player is already too expensively useless, why make it more so?
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Well, I'm glad you stopped by a forum dedicated to a device you clearly have neither the desire nor need to use. And thank you also for providing us with you opinion on a bunch of things that have nothing to do with it.
razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
jhumps said:
razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
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Generally though their products are a little... overpriced. However, if the specs are better and still able to be used as easily as a streaming player, I might get one.
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razor is making a android tv box but they haven't released specs, im assuming it will have much of what people want since its centered around gaming
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Razer's product is vaporware, at the moment. Lollipop is out, the Nexus Player is out, and not a peep from Razer. They have a bad habit of hyping up products just to see them delayed, never released, released in limited quality, and/or cancelled altogether. Never did see their Razer Edge in stores (was supposed to hit MS stores upon release). They were delayed, quietly released in limited quantities, and are now VERY difficult to find. Razer also doesn't have a very good brick and mortar distribution channel for their higher end products outside of mice/keyboards.
I wouldn't get my hopes up on this product. If it actually gets released, I'm expecting it to have the best specs of any late 2014 ATV player, but to be released in limited quantities before Christmas 2015, and at a higher price point as well.