Buying Advice: UIS7862 VS 8581 how much RAM is enough? - Android Head-Units

Hello Guys,
my PX-5 Unit is behaving extremly annoying in the last couple of Months. After a few Minutes, my Sound either stops, is doing knocking noises on full Volume or plainly screams till my ears bleed. I suppose it has something to do with the sound chip loosing contact, when the car heats up, since i can delay it by activating the AC.
Looking for specfic Headunits for my Car, i found two Models
UIS7862 with either 8GB or 4 GB of Ram for 370€ and 260€
UIS 8581 with 4 GB of Ram for 280€
Now my PX-5 Unit with 4 GB of Ram was slow. Google Maps crashed 4/10 times which was really annoying.
Since my PX-5 crashed often on Google Maps and was very slow with Spotify i am guessing that i hadnt enough Ram. Or the PX-5 just sucked.
My Question now is: Are 4GB enough or should i spend the additional Money for the 8 GB Version to be on the safe side?
Thanks in Advance

More is better. Never go cheap on ram...

blackhawk said:
More is better. Never go cheap on ram...
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Of course is more better. But my Question is: Is it worth and necessary to spend 30% more Money for 4 GB of Ram (and Storage, which i dont need).

predestruction said:
Of course is more better. But my Question is: Is it worth and necessary to spend 30% more Money for 4 GB of Ram (and Storage, which i dont need).
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Yes. You can never have too much of either.
That's just me though; I believe in overkill so you don't regret latter the decision you make today.

blackhawk said:
More is better. Never go cheap on ram...
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That isn't entirely true: this system going be running on same Android for years to come, it's going be very unlikely that you ever going benefit of having 6GB of ram.
Saab Unleashed actually did a review of the base model, and it works totally fine. So why spend that much extra money, if you never going use it?

DexterMorganNL said:
That isn't entirely true: this system going be running on same Android for years to come, it's going be very unlikely that you ever going benefit of having 6GB of ram.
Saab Unleashed actually did a review of the base model, and it works totally fine. So why spend that much extra money, if you never going use it?
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Faster boot ups at the very least. Don't know about you but I'm tired of slow devices...
Modern phone ram uses very little battery.
If you can $wing it, do it. You can't add it latter and cost is the only downside.
This N10+ is still running on Pie*. Not regretting the 12gb of one bit, it's a nimble beast. It's also noticeably faster than its 8gb of ram counterpart the N10. More is better in real life...
*firmware upgrades, updates? Hell no They are one of the best ways to screw up an Android I know of...

blackhawk said:
Faster boot ups at the very least. Don't know about you but I'm tired of slow devices...
Modern phone ram uses very little battery.
If you can $wing it, do it. You can't add it latter and cost is the only downside.
This N10+ is still running on Pie*. Not regretting the 12gb of one bit, it's a nimble beast. It's also noticeably faster than its 8gb of ram counterpart the N10. More is better in real life...
*firmware upgrades, updates? Hell no They are one of the best ways to screw up an Android I know of...
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Faster bootup? Do you seriously believe a 6GB headunit boots up faster, then the same spec headunit with 3GB? Don't understand me wrongly: for my phone I would also advocate more RAM is better.
But a head-unit? I think we are mainly sponsoring China's economic, by spending more on these devices than necessary. Personally I would go with the 4GB RAM/64GB Storage unit.
Just I don't know if another € 50 really is justified for this? I can buy the Mekede FYT UIS 7862 3GB/32GB unit for just € 190 including shipping from Poland. The 4GB/64GB unit costs € 240 totally, also ship from Poland.
Now I don't know about the traffic rules in the USA for example, if they are already existing? I heard you can get a driver's license super easy over there.... but in the Netherlands and Germany we very strict traffic rules.
So multitasking on your headunit while driving, could get you an article 5 in the Netherlands. Because you are doing things, that distract you from driving. Which I get me to the point: it needs to run lesser apps than your smartphone, and also you can't multitask to much.
Because multitasking distracts from driving, so you most likely wouldn't be needing so much RAM. As you never going use it as intensive as a smartphone nowadays.

DexterMorganNL said:
Faster bootup? Do you seriously believe a 6GB headunit boots up faster, then the same spec headunit with 3GB? Don't understand me wrongly: for my phone I would also advocate more RAM is better.
But a head-unit? I think we are mainly sponsoring China's economic, by spending more on these devices than necessary. Personally I would go with the 4GB RAM/64GB Storage unit.
Just I don't know if another € 50 really is justified for this? I can buy the Mekede FYT UIS 7862 3GB/32GB unit for just € 190 including shipping from Poland. The 4GB/64GB unit costs € 240 totally, also ship from Poland.
Now I don't know about the traffic rules in the USA for example, if they are already existing? I heard you can get a driver's license super easy over there.... but in the Netherlands and Germany we very strict traffic rules.
So multitasking on your headunit while driving, could get you an article 5 in the Netherlands. Because you are doing things, that distract you from driving. Which I get me to the point: it needs to run lesser apps than your smartphone, and also you can't multitask to much.
Because multitasking distracts from driving, so you most likely wouldn't be needing so much RAM. As you never going use it as intensive as a smartphone nowadays.
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I like to hear the road and car... windows down. It's an old school thing.
3gb isn't much... and god said Abe you can do what you want.

blackhawk said:
I like to hear the road and car... windows down. It's an old school thing.
3gb isn't much... and god said Abe you can do what you want.
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Not much for a smartphone, but for a head-unit it's plenty enough: what are you planning to do with it anyway? Build a rocket ship? I think with PX5 probably the chipset was slow.
You can put as much memory inside a head-unit you want, when the processor isn't fast enough. It ain't going bring your anything.

DexterMorganNL said:
Faster bootup? Do you seriously believe a 6GB headunit boots up faster, then the same spec headunit with 3GB? Don't understand me wrongly: for my phone I would also advocate more RAM is better.
But a head-unit? I think we are mainly sponsoring China's economic, by spending more on these devices than necessary. Personally I would go with the 4GB RAM/64GB Storage unit.
Just I don't know if another € 50 really is justified for this? I can buy the Mekede FYT UIS 7862 3GB/32GB unit for just € 190 including shipping from Poland. The 4GB/64GB unit costs € 240 totally, also ship from Poland.
Now I don't know about the traffic rules in the USA for example, if they are already existing? I heard you can get a driver's license super easy over there.... but in the Netherlands and Germany we very strict traffic rules.
So multitasking on your headunit while driving, could get you an article 5 in the Netherlands. Because you are doing things, that distract you from driving. Which I get me to the point: it needs to run lesser apps than your smartphone, and also you can't multitask to much.
Because multitasking distracts from driving, so you most likely wouldn't be needing so much RAM. As you never going use it as intensive as a smartphone nowadays.
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I like to hear the road and car... windows down. It's an old school thing so this is my last concern when driving.
Yeah larger ram devices tend to boot up faster.
Terrible isn't it?
3gb isn't much... and god said Abe you can do what you want.

blackhawk said:
I like to hear the road and car... windows down. It's an old school thing so this is my last concern when driving.
Yeah larger ram devices tend to boot up faster.
Terrible isn't it?
3gb isn't much... and god said Abe you can do what you want.
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Boot faster up? Are you sure? Did you do a side to side comparison? But anyway, I don't think a head-unit would profit from so much RAM.
But sellers gladly want you to buy the more RAM version, because they earn a lot from that. From € 190 for 3GB/32GB to 6GB/128GB is a price difference of € 100 and the 8GB/128GB isn't even shipped from Poland, but Germany.
But that one is like € 360 totally, that's almost the double amount. I heard UIS 7862 can't even use more than 6GB of RAM, so those 2GB of extra RAM aren't even going be used by the system.

DexterMorganNL said:
Boot faster up? Are you sure? Did you do a side to side comparison? But anyway, I don't think a head-unit would profit from so much RAM.
But sellers gladly want you to buy the more RAM version, because they earn a lot from that. From € 190 for 3GB/32GB to 6GB/128GB is a price difference of € 100 and the 8GB/128GB isn't even shipped from Poland, but Germany.
But that one is like € 360 totally, that's almost the double amount. I heard UIS 7862 can't even use more than 6GB of RAM, so those 2GB of extra RAM aren't even going be used by the system.
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Not with that device never tried it but if you get the 3gb variant you can ponder that while you wait for it to boot. I never regretted getting too much ram but I have more then once regretted too little for whatever reason including no better option.
$50 is chump change for a system. Too little, too late is a bad place to be.

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Best price on the 101?

Whats the best price anyone has found the 101 at? I found it for $298 at some Mac mail order company but they were out of stock. I wanted to get my woman on for Valentines Day but I really didnt want to pay over $300 for it.
I got mine for $298 with free shipping and a $25 gift card from J&R bringing it to $273...but that was during the holidays and I had to wait like 8 weeks to get it.
Yea, J&R is out of them again.
After searching for a place that just had them in stock for weeks, I finally was able to order one direct from archos yesterday. I am receiving the 8gb model today . It was 299.00 plus 30.00 for overnight shipping.
In December Amazon had them for $299.. free shipping.. I wouldn't pay more than $350.
I got mine off Amazon last week for $349.99 for 16GB with overnight shipping for $3.99 (shipping cheap due to my Prime membership). The next day they was up to $415.99.
So do I win a prize for getting mine for only $273? Seems I got the best price of the people that frequent this forum.
I think the Archos website store is now the best deal.. 101 16G for $349
https://store.archos.com/archos-internet-tablet-p-5005.html
It seems the demand is so high for these that they can't make them fast enough.
I have done a lot of research on Android tablets and the Archos 101 definitely gives you the most bang for the buck! There are a lot of cheaper tablets out there, but they don't have capacitive touch displays and/or cut corners on other specs. Even with the newer tablets coming out that have Honeycomb and dual core aren't as good of a deal.. $700 for a tab is way too much.. worth buying an Archos 101 now and waiting a couple of years for the newer dual core tabs to come down in price.
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worth buying an Archos 101 now and waiting a couple of years for the newer dual core tabs to come down in price.
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Yeah, but then there will be something new like Android Pudding version and quad core processors tablets which will make a dual core running Honeycomb seem stupid and slow.
If you want cutting edge you are going to have to pay the price (which will be $700-900) or you have to come to the stark realization that the cutting edge isn't that much sharper than the other edges. In which case the Archos 70 and 101's are the biggest bang for the buck in in the near future.
I got it from 270€ at Madrid, Spain, from an Archos wholesale.
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Yeah, but then there will be something new like Android Pudding version and quad core processors tablets which will make a dual core running Honeycomb seem stupid and slow.
If you want cutting edge you are going to have to pay the price (which will be $700-900) or you have to come to the stark realization that the cutting edge isn't that much sharper than the other edges. In which case the Archos 70 and 101's are the biggest bang for the buck in in the near future.
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I don't think that Android will ever need more than two cores.. Tablets are fairly new.. Netbooks have been around for a few years and the hardware hasn't changed.
Tesla74 said:
I don't think that Android will ever need more than two cores.. Tablets are fairly new.. Netbooks have been around for a few years and the hardware hasn't changed.
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And Bill Gates said that no computer will every need more than 640k RAM! But I keed, I keed....
Honestly, I gave up trying to predict where technology will go because I am always wrong. Back in the day I said the internet will fail because who on earth would pay money to do what you can already do for free with BBS systems? I thought the iPad would fail for the same reason many did...it was just a big iTouch, what's the point? I thought Netflix wouldn't last because isn't it easier and more satisfying to just get your video when you want it, the day you want it, etc instead of having to "plan out" your entertainment and hope you feel like that kind of movie the day it arrives?
So yeah...it's easier to say you don't see it going past dual core, but seriously...who would have ever thought a phone would need dual core as well...yet they are coming.
Never underestimate the power of people who want to be parted from their money just to have something better than their neighbors and friends.

[Q] Is this tablet still worth it?

Is buying this tablet still worth it. Its priced at £100 brand new. I wantto buy this over others in this price range because of the support on xda. E.g. roms, kernals et .
xOutcasTx said:
Is buying this tablet still worth it. Its priced at £100 brand new. I wantto buy this over others in this price range because of the support on xda. E.g. roms, kernals et .
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There was a discussion about that a few weeks ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/help/tablet-to-buy-t2940085
I don't know which version you're talking about, but £100 is not too far from the original price. For mine (16gb wifi) it was 200€ (£160), and I buyed it second hand (but as good as new) for 160€ (£120) two years ago. So I would buy something newer these days, with less display bezel, second camera, more ram and a faster cpu.
The version is the 32gb wifi
The combo tegra 3/1GB RAM is a little weak nowaday. It have issues with some apps (chrome and evernote for exemples). Also, Lollipop make it awfully laggy, so don't expect good upgrades above kitkat.
But the Youtube app et Firefox works well, and even some 3D games.
Conclusion : No, I don't recommend it for 100£.
(PS : sorry for bad english)

The best place to buy Note 4 in Canada?

Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
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ktnxhenry said:
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
tb5... said:
Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3 and isn't upgradable.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
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Ram is fixed at 3 GB for all note 4s. Also most apps are programmed in 32 bit arch and there are still even PC applications that are simply programmed in 32 bit environment (actually Many many programs to be more precise...and even those that are 64 bit compatible but don't take any advantages of the new system).
Seeing as 64 bit will depend on both ram being above 3.25 GB and programmers actually programming apps that will take advantage of the new bit count, it is too early to proudly adopt the 64 bit arch expecting to future proof yourself.
I have a Nexus 9, which is a 64 bit CPU. By the time 64 bit makes it into it's baby steps even my nexus 9 will most likely be irrelevant in terms of other products on the market.
For now, 64 bit is a marketing gimmick and just a first crawl of technology going in the right direction. Don't get me wrong I'm not against it, and frankly encourage people to purchase into it, but don't expect to get the "performance" or "use" of 64 bit atm.
You are simply "funding" future projects
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Kijiji is even worse. At least pacific mall has a location (not that it makes much more of a difference) but your not carrying around 800$ cash to a random location. At least in Pacific mall there is security and is a place to shop.
i got my 910U from taiwan using ebay. $900 and well worth the extra ponies over the canadian models. using it on rogers.
I bought mine from Craigslist for $420.... Its amazing if you're patient the deals youll find. All you have to do is be able to barter, know what you're looking for and take precautions when buying used- Meet them at phones carrier, have it transferred over to you, meet them at their house and test it out or ask for their ID. Id definetly reccomend craigslist if you dont mind a used one
at $420 youre getting a fake for sure. no one is going to sell a real phone at hundreds off the cost price. a fake phone costs $160 with shipping at retail.
have you run refurbishment check on it using samsung phone info app from the app store ? have you asked the carriers if your phone is on contract/stolen or blacklisted ?
you can find it online and in Canada
Omega Cell in Edmonton carries these . i have purchased other phones, it is a good place to shop for unlocked and unique phone hardware
http://www.omegacell.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910u-exynos-octocore
i am not affiliated with these guys at all, just a past and possibly future return customer.'

2GB RAM vs 4GB RAM? (US Model)

I realize this question has been asked before, but since the phone has been out for a while since the last thread I found I figured people who've been using it for a long time might have some more insight.
Do you think 2gb is worth it compared to 4gb? I don't game on my phone, but I do multitasking rather heavily (social media, a couple chrome tabs, sms, music, etc. Open at a time).
To complicate it a little further, I had the 4GB variant of this phone before, but broke it :'( and I am looking for a replacement. Typical price for 2GB/4GB is still $229/$300 respectively, but lately some great deals have popped up for the 2GB version. A local store by my is selling 2GB version for $190 right now. I haven't found any decent deals on the 4GB version, but I figure with deals this month there will be some at lower price.
Tl;Dr: should I buy the 2GB version for $190, spend the $300 for 4GB, or wait for better deal on 4GB version?
Appreciate any opinions or insight, especially from people who have been using the 2GB Moto G5+
Just get the 4GB... Better resale value if anything, if you're going to keep it for years, then even more of a reason to not be cheap about it. Besides, I've been seeing it for $250 recently. I bought mine at BB 6 months ago for $240ish.
JoRocker said:
Just get the 4GB... Better resale value if anything, if you're going to keep it for years, then even more of a reason to not be cheap about it. Besides, I've been seeing it for $250 recently. I bought mine at BB 6 months ago for $240ish.
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Hmm, alright I'll probably just keep an eye out for sales. I haven't seen any like that tho, everywhere right now seems to have 2gb cheap but 4gb still at 300. Thanks for the input.
danageis said:
Hmm, alright I'll probably just keep an eye out for sales. I haven't seen any like that tho, everywhere right now seems to have 2gb cheap but 4gb still at 300. Thanks for the input.
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I would agree with previous response, 4GB or skip it for someone other than the casual user, which you don't seem to be... You will get lots of app closures/re-opening while task swapping with 2GB ram, next to none with 4GB.
The 4GB version goes on sale from time to time at around $250, although at full retail I might look at something else.
Honestly, if price is such a factor... Look at the E4 Plus which regularly sells about $170, 5.5" screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage, 5000mAh battery.
Don't know if this is legit or not, but...
https://www.n1wireless.com/moto-g5-plus-xt1687-64gb-smartphone-unlocked-lunar-gray.html
I have the 2gb version. I love it. No issues with ram and such. I had the s7edge before this and it is almost the same if not better switching between apps/ battery life than that phone. Maybe just my rom/kernel. I would just get the cheaper one. Save your money, I'm done spending way too much on phones. I was looking at that E4 tho.....I want a 5000mah battery....
Niemer said:
Don't know if this is legit or not, but...
https://www.n1wireless.com/moto-g5-plus-xt1687-64gb-smartphone-unlocked-lunar-gray.html
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G5s is out and aside from camera it's basically identical, so $219 sounds very realistic. Unfortunately, it's why I'm probably switching to another brand. Motorola (lenovo) hasn't been good with real updates, and they keep saturating their own product lines every 6 months, which means it can only get worse...
The U11 can be bought for $400, as well as, Essential (although essential is iffy brand right now).
Thanks for all the replies guys. I ended up going with the 4GB version after finding it for $225 US. I had looked at the E4+, and would definitely have considered it if it came with a little more powerful processor option.
For anyone looking for a good deal on the 4GB model, Newegg is selling it for $225US and that comes with a free Bluetooth speaker and free shipping option! Speaker is probably not great, but I thought that was a great deal after not finding a much of anything under $300 for the past couple weeks.

price advice plz

hi xda, the device still not available in my country (Jordan) and we can't order it from china, but there is a guy bringing it from somewhere and selling it for 400 usd, is it a good price or better to wait for device to be available?
thank you.
You can check if Gearbest and Aliexpress ship to your country.
I got mine from Gearbest for 400 USD and it eas really fast handling.
kezzuki said:
You can check if Gearbest and Aliexpress ship to your country.
I got mine from Gearbest for 400 USD and it eas really fast handling.
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thank you bro.
alsartawi said:
thank you bro.
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have fun with this device.
I have both samsung s10e and oneplus 7pro in my hands, but since this device is relatively much cheaper, i feel like i could just use it without extra care, and no phone case, feels much easier. Besides, this phone has great screen and sufficient processing power, fits my needs.
Just ordered my 128GB model for 288€ so 320 US$, and the 64GB model was around 260€ so 290 US$, you should be able to get it for way less than 400 US$.
If you want to order it from GearBest check online if you can find some good sales codes, for exemple check this page :
www[dot]fredzone.org/le-xiaomi-mi-9t-128-go-a-partir-de-272-e-et-vous-avez-en-plus-le-choix-de-la-couleur-855
It's in french but pretty self explanatory, the prices they list are not totally accurate because the discount decreases as more people use it (I think), but at the time I checked you could get a 128GB blue model for arround 300€ (334 US$).
LeMageFro said:
Just ordered my 128GB model for 288€ so 320 US$, and the 64GB model was around 260€ so 290 US$, you should be able to get it for way less than 400 US$.
If you want to order it from GearBest check online if you can find some good sales codes, for exemple check this page :
www[dot]fredzone.org/le-xiaomi-mi-9t-128-go-a-partir-de-272-e-et-vous-avez-en-plus-le-choix-de-la-couleur-855
It's in french but pretty self explanatory, the prices they list are not totally accurate because the discount decreases as more people use it (I think), but at the time I checked you could get a 128GB blue model for arround 300€ (334 US$).
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already bought it after kezzuki reply, the 128 one, 400 usd and I don't regret buying it at this price after 2h of use, i was always on Samsung flagships and i can say this device is really beast, i will go for the pro version in near future no more Samsung.
kezzuki said:
have fun with this device.
I have both samsung s10e and oneplus 7pro in my hands, but since this device is relatively much cheaper, i feel like i could just use it without extra care, and no phone case, feels much easier. Besides, this phone has great screen and sufficient processing power, fits my needs.
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yes you are right, thank you brother.

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