First of all, this is not a childish "versus" topic to flame fanboys spirits. I just need some technical understanding of some issues.
So... I've run four or five Lollipop 5.1.1 custom ROMs on my C5303, including CM, AICP, XenonHD, Mokee. All are great and fast and developers made a tremendous job. Not all of them are so friendly with Tangerine kernel (I need a custom kernel for increasing in-calls phone volume), per instance, Mokee hangs and struggle like hell. AICP works well with T-kernel, but with some issues (reported by users), when the device will freeze for a few seconds. XenonHD loves T-kernel - no problem at all!
Still, all of these fantastic custom ROMs , with or without custom kernel, are sluggish compared with stock 4.3 Sony ROM. I've made a nandroid backup in TWRP of my XenonHD - T-Kernel installation and installed Binomical SLIM 4.3 base don stock. Just for the heck of remembering the Sony UI, I intended to restore XenonHD soon after. I'm still on Binomical 4.3. Man, this is FAST! This is a blazing rocket compared with any of the Lollipop ROMs!
On Lollipop ROMs I've had ~ 300 MB free RAM, on stock 4.3 (OK, deodexed and slim) I only have 150 MB, but Sony's ROM is way faster and smoother. It really looks like I have a completely new device in my hand. How is this possible? Why? The hardware drivers? Is X-SP really not able to handle Lollipop in a decent manner?
XDA developers worked so hard to gave us the Lollipop ROMs, and I praise their work, but looks like X-SP best choice is still the old JellyBean 4.3.
Agree.
All lollipop roms are really fast in the beginning but after sometime,it begins to lag and become slow and sluggish.I have tried many lollipop roms but always returned to stock rom.It's been 2-3 months that i'm on stock and didn't flashed any other rom.
dude flash latest cm12.1 nightly nd ull forget stock
4.1.2>4.3>5.1.1
I dont think this, i not know what version you test of aicp and xennon, thes lasts versions of aicp are laggy and xennon has battery drain sometimes, but the others no, all depends of the rom, have lollipops roms laggy and have lollipop fast roms, have kikkat laggy roms and have kitkat fast roms, and the same of all android version, the rom stock have good performance but battery drains, now i in miui 7, performance and battery are awesome
I NEVER had battery drains on stock ROM. Yes, lots of bloatware on official stock , but not battery drains. I also didn't encounter battery drain on any of the Lollipop ROM's I've tried - AICP stable and about 10 version of nightlies, CM, XenonHD latest and Mokee. Yes, those were not so "green" as stock, but nothing so horrible, maybe 10-20% less battery power than stock. The issues regarding battery were on calibration of the battery percentage, per instance it used to go downward normally till 6%, then, bang!, the telephone turned off with 0% battery all of a sudden. Anyway, this is a insignificant issue, I don't care if I'm gonna recharge battery one hour earlier, the real problem that brought me back to 4.3 stock was the PERFORMANCE.
What I can't figure out is how come 300MB free RAM Lollipop is worst than 150 MB RAM JellyBean. Why? Xperia SP can't deal with ART instructions, it's Dalvik-only? I mean, OK, our developers have limited resources and most of them test their code on their own device, they have to be careful and not trying something risky; by contrast, Sony have unlimited resources to develop and tune their ROM. I know that, it's obvious, all my respect to XDA developers. What I'm trying to figure out is what's that bump in the road, what keeps X-SP Lollipop to be blazing fast? It's ART? It's drivers? I't Tangerine kernel, that most of us "married" with LP ROM's?
Thank you guys.
To be honest, you have answered your own question based on your newer question.
It is optimisation, man. 4.3 (or prior), those stock ROMs are made by Sony. Since it is made by Sony, you can expect a very great deal out of it, battery life, performance and all of those sweet things.
Since Sony lied to SP users and abandoned the SP with the last known version 4.3, we have problems on optimising ROMs because of no official blobs to refer to.
It has been until now. Everything is, thanks to the hard work of developers, our Xperia SP can still run newer Android versions while still maintaining the "blaziness" of the ROM.
Needless to say, its optimisations.
As always, you have the rights on which ROM to use, so choose the one that suits you.
Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
"Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?" It has those issues, but I think it depends on certain devices. Mine for example overheats with any rom, no matter stock or custom, while there are people who never experience those problems. As for stock vs custom it's clear enough that stock is best optimised.
I tested a lot ROMS.
I like the OMNI ROM (Android 4.4.4). It's really fast and stable. Maybe you should try it.
I like also the Xenon HD ROM (Android 5.1.1). It's fast. Not so stable, but still very good..
After a few days it gets a little laggy. I´d liked to know why to. Faced the same problem with AICP.
I've had similar experience as you guys with lollipop custom ROMS. As much as I wanted to like them, after trying few, I have switched back to stock. Lollipop roms look nice, they offer more features and battery life is amazing compared to stock. However, none of the roms are stable enough to be used as a daily driver. After few days every single one of them refused to boot up, forcing my phone into recovery mode, so the only way out was to reflash. It has been a nice experience, but XSP is my one and only phone needed for communication, not a toy, therefore I need something that works and does it reliably. I think I'd just get a nexus or motorola when it's the time to upgrade.
bulanula said:
Guys, I am thinking of buying Xperia SP to use with Cyanogenmod 12.1 instead of cheap budget phone like Motorola E 4G. Price for me is the same, actually SP is cheaper than Motorola E.
I like SP because fast CPU and GPU ( Adreno 320 ! ) so it's no slouch and it has official CM12.1 support. I don't want to use anything other than latest 12.1 but I'm worried about performance and battery. Is it really that bad ?
I cannot try out the ROMs myself as I have not bought SP yet.
Is any CM12.1 ROM stable, fast and with good battery performance ? I see you have custom kernels for CM12.1 but what is the Linux version - is it 3.10 or above ?
Does SP have heating issues and performance problems ( like so many claim here ) ? Or maybe that appears only after some years of usage ?
What about this screen flickering problem which seems to be present in all CM12.1 ? How bad is it ?
Thanks for your assistance !
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No heating issues, I mean CPU gets hot sometimes (with not regard of the ROM installed), but it's all at thigh as 60°C. Most Android devices are well in specs on that thermal level.
Performance regarded. CM Vanilla or most of the 5.1.1 custom ROM - it's fast for the day 1, then it gets little sluggish, you'll have to boot to recovery and clear dalvik/art cache to refresh you device. If you don't need kernel level modifications I recommend you to stay with stock FOTA, Tangerine kernel might cause some screen or device freeze and stutter.
Years of usage to get slower performance? LOL We're talking about hours!
Display flickering (or getting yellowish) I guess it's hardware related - some X-SP never experienced it (mine included).
OK. Thanks for your feedback guys. I cannot test myself since I don't have device.
Do you think developer support is strong enough that they will manage to get Android 6 working properly on SP ?
big dilemma
Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
BPavel said:
Hi guys,
I have big dilemma what to do. My wife liked to buy the XSP because of the LED lights etc. She uses the phone mostly for calling, texting and music listening. As she has the Deezer premium acc I went in big troubles with XSP because the known bad memory management. More than one year she have bothered with it(and me too . After the 2years waranty ending I have decided to root, UBL and test custom ROMs. First we have tried the lightered stock ArchXperia, which was not helping us. Now she is since August on CM12 nightly. Yes, Deezer works good now, but on the other hand she is missing the stock Sony apps, working LED bar(with music), stock FM radio and generaly dislike the 5.1 Android (she is little bit old school, not likes many new things to learn).
Please, could somebody recommend to me any rom, which is stable, close to stock look (apps incl.) and has good ram management, that Deezer will work good, without memory issues?
Was it maybe wrong, that I have skipped the 4.4.4 Android over?
Many thanks in advance for any kind of tip or idea.
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Try a slim stock ROM, just as Binomical, based o stock JB 4.3. .207. It includes Williams kernel and that might do the trick with RAM management.
Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
BPavel said:
Yes, thank you, I was thinking about exactly this one... good to have the choice confirmed. Just installed, look forward to try it and test it on my wife
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Or maybe you can check out the cm11 last build. Used to be on cm11 for a year with William's kernel and was pretty good. With some apps you can have the disco lights fully functional.
I`ve searched high and low and tested many ROM`s with alot for the Note 4 having some minor issue usually with the Camera. Is there a ROM thats as stock as Nougat can be that works with the Note4. I`ve been using the Nokia 6 but im having dreadful performance issue`s with it which leads back to the old saying you get what you paid for. So im contemplating going back to the Note4. Since im accustomed to the Nougat UI i`d like to stick with it.
you can try installing lineageOS
LineageOS has problems with camera being slow and prone to crashing, as do all AOSP ROMs for Note 4 at the moment. It's sad but right now you have to put up with TouchWiz and MM if you want a glitch-free camera.
If you don't mind TW and have snapdragon, I'd like to recommend this ROM.
I can only recommend you go with Resurrection Remix 5.8.5 it`s stock with a lot customization options you can you use and you simply have to install Open Camera instead of using the stock one or i use the Camera from htc version 9.20.974075 i use this as daily driver and you really can go with it
Alternative you can use AICP that would also work pretty good and you can use the stylus
Hi All. Thanks for the reply. I`d tried LineageOS and had issues with it. RR was the closest i got but randomly crashed, Not only that but i had poor battery performance. I`ve purchased a new battery as i think this is the biggest issue with my battery problems. RR M seems to be alot better than RR N
Good day everyone,
For the past 10 years, I owned many smartphones but I just returned to the Galaxy S4 Mini i9195i because I like its weight and size.
Since it's an old phone...and many Android versions have been out, which version is best for this Galaxy S4 Plus ?
Which version run with less lags ?
And should I update from the original version (new phone) to this last in one shot ?
Best regards,
IMO the nightly builds Lineage 14.1 are currently the best (and really good) option: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-1-t3522169
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IMO the nightly builds Lineage 14.1 are currently the best (and really good) option: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-1-t3522169
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Just returned to 14.1 nightlies from 15.1 and I would also say 14.1 is best.
AICP ran amazingly well on my one too! Not sure where their website is, but I'm sure if you search up AICP Rooting or Custom ROM, it should come up.
If you use gps/navigation a lot then cm13 is the best i find, compared with oreo/nougat are slow on gps lock due to no glonass fix.
My opinion...LineageOS 14.1 nightly works really good...also GPS/navigatin works fine...just missing flip to silent mode...
I need a regular daily driver ROM that has long lasting battery, smooth in UI, stock like? Camera should be fully working.
Don't play video games on this. So gaming performance dosen't matter.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Evolution X 4.0 - i recomended.
If you're talking about GCam, you'll have to play among different builds, but this isn't the perfect time to do that, since their developers seem to be in vacations. I suppose they'll go back in February or later.
You can check ROMs like EvolutionX 4.0 (I'm using this one, also includes RadioFM), as well as HavocOS 3.0, they're the most recent ones at this time and include most of the current fixes around.
You can also check Pixel Experience or LineageOS 17.1, and there you have DerpFest, MSX, RevengeOS 3.1 and others. All of their developers are pretty active and in overall, at least since November, things are getting polished and getting perfect, faster than before...
I don't know... Perhaps at the beginning it was quite complicated since Mi A1 hasn't an official Android 10 firmware or kernel, and developers had to find a way to build from near nothing.
Hello!
At this moment,no custom ROM is bug-free or to have the best battery life.Lineage OS 17 should be a very good Android 10 custom ROM,but it isn't officially released.Until then,you can wait or experiment with other ROMs.
[Review & Question] Short review on Evolution X 4.4(Exynos). What ROM are you using?
Greetings, fellow S8/S8+ users.
I flashed Evolution X v. 4.4 with RZ kernel (non-treble) on my Galaxy S8 (Exynos) a few months ago. I have been getting fluid performance and decent SOT times/battery backup. However, I have noticed sudden FCs/crashes and the screen blacking out and occasional freezing that fixes on its own after 5-10 seconds. The only bug that bothers me is the camera. I have tried a lot of Gcam apks and configs but none of them work smoothly. They have some flaw or the other. Even the stock camera which was replaced by Footej Camera in the last update has bugs, crashes, etc., etc.
I want to try a different ROM now; I am seeking for suggestions & recommendations from other users. Please share your device name, ROM and your experience on it.
Thanks in advance
I tried hades and alexis rom. They have bad camera quality.
Photos look awful in low light so I decided to try side by side test with S8 never rooted. I was shocked by the difference.
Then I flashed stock firmware and compared again. The phoo quality was a lot better but can't match the S8 never rooted. (The comparison was between S8 and S8+ with exynoss variant)
So I ended up using stock firmware with custom kernel. Using this combination since February.
Now I'm wondering to flash Light rom (pie). The curiosity for flashing began from one video in youtube showing Galaxy Note 8 (with pie) flashed light rom with nougat 7.1.1
https://youtu.be/ZjRYMysbq34
So what do you think, is it possible to downgrade to nougat (7.0)custom rom our S8/S8+?
Battery life was awesome as I remember, and feel little nostalgic with the old software.
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yes, it is possible to downgrade to Nougat but for that your phone's bootloader has to be downgraded too, which all in all is a big hassle. I would recommend to stick to Pie (9.0), also consider that Pie is much newer, refined and definitely better in more other ways. The performance boost is appealing, but my preference would be Pie. You can try HorizonROM. I used it as a daily without any complaints. I just like AOSP more and hence i parted ways with it.
Happy flashing!