Number of passcode attempts - Moto E4 Questions & Answers

Greetings!
I forgot my 9 dot pattern passcode after goofing around with it. When I got to the sixth try an alarm went off, telling me there were four tries were left and after 10 tries the phone would do a hard reset. I've left it for over a month because I have texts and photos I don't want to lose. In the meantime, I'm sure I've accidentally "entered" the wrong pattern at least five times or more when it's come up (probably at least 8 times) and I touched the screen by accident. No alarm, and no hard reset.
I'm guessing the ten try rule is ten tries per day, otherwise I'd be using a wiped phone by now. Anyone know if this assumption is correct? I'm pretty sure as of today I'd have ten tries again. I do know the last four moves in the pattern, and have a good idea what the first part of the pattern is. I'm just paranoid at this point of losing my data.
Also, is it possible for me to see/copy/download or otherwise access saved texts and messages in safe mode? And is doing this cause any danger of a hard reset?
***My phone just informed me I have 3 attempts left until factory reset. So I guess all I need to know is what I can do in safe mode.

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[PROBLEM] Unlock code refuses to work, endless loop

I added a screen lock - the numerical password type. Now I'm not sure whether it's a bug* or I actually mistyped twice in the same manner while entering the code in the settings screen, but either way, I can't get passed the lock screen.
I thought it wasn't a big deal - do it wrong a few times and you get the option to reset lock with your Google credentials. WRONG. Unlike the pattern lock, with this numeric lock screen it simply drags you on FOREVER.
After five tries it pauses you for 30 seconds with a message "you have typed the incorrect password 5 times, please wait yada yada". I managed to get to "you have typed the incorrect password 50 times..." and it keeps going and going. No way to recover.
Luckily my phone has no real data on it, everything synched online etc. So I booted to recovery, factory reset and now all is good.
But I was quite surprised to see this is the way it is handled. Phones that can't get to recovery, or people who actually has real data (which is most people I assume) are screwed...?
There really isn't a way to get past that?
* Just tested - definitely a bug! I went through the same steps and I know for sure I typed the correct 4 digits this time around. And again, it won't accept it.
Seems like I just cannot use the numerical PIN code option as a lock screen.
I'm on 2.3.3 btw... anyone else dares try it?
i dont think anyone will dare try this after what you have reported lol
I will try it for sure, before flashing a new fw hehe
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Perhaps the 2.3.3 upgrade was pulled because of this bug?

anoying white screen

Hi guys, this is my first post here and I hope someone can help me please!!
I got my phone 5 weeks no problem till last night,
basically when I am in screen lock state and then go unlock, I keep getting this anoying WHITE screen which coveres the whole screen and only on the top in narrow blue band it say "wiedges setting" to get out of this, I have to press the return button (on the right ) and it goes away , this happens everytime I go to lock position (after it stays in that position for 5 minutes or more),
Also I noticed even DURING my call after about 5-6 minutes through out the call this white screen appears and it ALWAYS goes away as soon as I press the return button.!!
so please tell me how to get ride of this?
if not, how to reset the phone without losing my apps and data? if I do factory reset is my apps will stay in andriod market, or do they also get deleted?
my phone IS NOT rooted phone.
what can I do, this is really killing me, as its everytimes into my face.
Please help me...
thanks so much
ps. is there any way that I can reset the phone to previously saved version! (3 days ago lets say),?
Sounds to me like an app causing this, as it seems it wants you to alter some settings.
Can you think of any apps you have installed since it started happening? It is usually always the fault of a dodgy app when you have issues.
I am not sure you can restore the phone back 3 days if you havent already done a backup.
Restoring your phone won't necessarily help as you will probably end up re installing the bad app once you are done.
I would try taking off some apps that you installed recently or anything you think might affect the screen.
Good luck and i'm sure someone else will be able to help
Biff.
edit: if it only started last night, is there anything you've installed just before it happened?

Pin changed by itself?

Bought 2 S7 edge for myself and my wife. The first time we have the same phone, which should make my mis duties easier. We got the phones hours before a trip, so I didn't have much time to play beforehand. I set up my phone including fingerprints and when we arrived at our hotel, I noticed that the always on display no longer was nor did pull from right work anymore. and I'm sure other things broke too. Both features were turned on BUT when I attempted to do anything that required entering a pin? My pin no longer worked. The fingerprint reader still worked, so I was not locked out. I searched for an answer but gave up and reset the phone via recovery. I prodded my wife to add security to her phone and she and use the fingerprint reader and after a couple of hours? He pin no longer works either. The fingerprint still works but poorly and we can't change that anymore. Is there any way I can get back into the phone without a full reset?
Another disturbing thing? While running Waze a few hours ago, my phone spontaneously reboot. I'm digging the speed especially the camera and battery life vs my old G3, but If it reboots by itself one more time? it goes back!
And I just fixed it myself by happy accident. We decided to bite the bullet and do a factory reset via recovery BUT I goofed and went into bootloader instead (vol down instead of up). When the phone rebooted I tried the pin and it works once again. If it happens again, I'll try booting to recovery and then rebooting to system to see if it fixes the issue too. I've had a bunch of Android phones, a few of them Samsungs and this has never happened before.
I've had my phone for a couple of weeks, and the initial PIN I set up still works. Haven't had any problems like that. No spontaneous reboots, either.
meyerweb said:
I've had my phone for a couple of weeks, and the initial PIN I set up still works. Haven't had any problems like that. No spontaneous reboots, either.
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So far, just the one reboot. I'm hopeful it's just a one-off thing. As for the pin thing? I've added a password just in case. It didn't turn out to be that much of a problem, but I hope leaving this here might help someone else who experiences the same event. Curious that it happened to 2 phones in the same family.
Have had my devices since March 11, PIN code has not changed by itself. Have had at least one UI reboot automatically, but I have a ton of apps so no good way to tell what caused it.
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Wish I would have read this first. I found my pin not working this morning. I thought I was going crazy. I use the same pin on multiple devices and keep them in sync, so I verified my mind was not toast by pinning into another device. I just completed a factory reset...
my Pin changed spontaneously
I've had my S7 for about 1 week and the pin changed on its own. I always use the same pin. I'm really frustrated and stuck in a 2 year contract with this thing. If I have to keep doing a hard reset every time this happens, I'll break the phone and get a new one under warranty.
As an update, after this happened to my wife's phone it happened to mine a couple of days later. After an apparent reboot over night (update?) my password was gone and I was unable to access the phone. Tried everything including contacting both Sprint, Samsung, tried bootloader and recovery, device manager, ect. No luck. Eventually had to reset. After reset, I changed to pattern (least favorite security option) and the issue hasn't reoccurred.(yet?) even with many reboots. I'm giving it another week and I will set up Samsung Pay and play 50 questions with my bank and cc cards.....again. I was in Home Depot with 500lbs of mulch on my cart when I realized I had no wallet. No problem, I can use Samsung Pay.....till I remember that the card info was wiped out with the last reset...DOH! Tech fail! I won't use a pin or password till I'm sure this bug has been squished.
From what I've gleaned, this is a bug specific to Sprint variants of the S7 and Sprint is aware of the problem.
jph8tr said:
As an update, after this happened to my wife's phone it happened to mine a couple of days later. After an apparent reboot over night (update?) my password was gone and I was unable to access the phone. Tried everything including contacting both Sprint, Samsung, tried bootloader and recovery, device manager, ect. No luck. Eventually had to reset. After reset, I changed to pattern (least favorite security option) and the issue hasn't reoccurred.(yet?) even with many reboots. I'm giving it another week and I will set up Samsung Pay and play 50 questions with my bank and cc cards.....again. I was in Home Depot with 500lbs of mulch on my cart when I realized I had no wallet. No problem, I can use Samsung Pay.....till I remember that the card info was wiped out with the last reset...DOH! Tech fail! I won't use a pin or password till I'm sure this bug has been squished.
From what I've gleaned, this is a bug specific to Sprint variants of the S7 and Sprint is aware of the problem.
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Got bitten by this bug myself. Have had the S7 edge for a week and a half, fortunately still in the "playing" phase so forced to do a factory reset was not to bad...I too have switched to pattern and no issues either.
Yeah, it's the strangest thing. This happened to me as well only it was a password and not a pin. I honestly thought it was a mistake on my part. About a day after initially getting the device and setting up the fingerprint and password, my phone died ( I was using Gear VR and it didn't alert me that battery was even low), and when I rebooted it said something like " enter password for storage encryption" or something of the sort. I assumed it was my unlock password but it wasn't working....
So I looked all over the internet and all I could find were recommendations to try your normal unlock password. I tried and tried until I got the dreaded "you have 9 attempts remaining before factory reset" popped up. That's when I thought back to when I first set up the password and how I wasn't used to the edge of the screen yet. So I kept accidentally hitting keys on the edge while I was typing (because normally you can rest your hand on the edge, but on this if you do that you're pressing the edge of the screen). So I tried my exact password with one of the characters as a common "typo" that I kept making for that letter. And voila! It worked! Now the weirdness continues.
At this point I'm happy I figured it out but found it SO odd that I typed that password so many times and input a typo.... I must had used that password at least 15 times over that day....the odds of me doing a typo every time..slim. So the whole thing felt extremely sketch so I immediately went to change the password (and just turn off security in general, don't need it, just was playing around with fingerprint and needed password) after it booted up. And, of course, even with the typo the pass no longer worked. I tried it until the wait time between each try was an hour, heh. I tried all sorts of typo variations of the password, but to no avail. But, at least the phone was now ON. So I was able to backup my SMS, Apps, Settings, Themes, etc and prepare for the factory reset. What a wild ride.
I have no idea why it even happened in the first place. I never turned on any encryption and I never turned on "require password on boot up." Those settings were even toggled off when I checked while the phone was still on. (couldn't see all settings without password though).
Even weirder, I have no idea why the password with the typo even worked that one time to get it to boot. That same password never worked again.
IDK how widespread this is, but be CAUTIOUS and back up the things that you need to. Also, sign up for a Find My Mobile type service to unlock your phone and give you remote access should happen to you. Or just disable the security altogether until they announce a bug fix for this issue. I thought I was the only one with this issue and chalked it up to a weird freak occurrence. So thanks for the topic as I now know it wasn't just me.
Weird. Wonder what's triggering this. I've had my device since March 11 and haven't had it happen (yet). Hrmph.
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Update RE: my Sprint S7 with spontaneous pin change
Sprint S7 . I bought my phone 2 weeks ago, about 1 week in the PIN # (I had a 4 digit #) spontaneously changed. I could only get in with my finger print which only works 1/2 the time (don't both trying if your hands were just washed or out of the shower).
I decided to do a factory reset on Tuesday night and used a pattern tracing instead of a # pin. The phone worked fine for 2 days and then it happened again this morning. The pattern was spontaneously changed. I called Sprint, they told me they've heard nothing. I called Samsung same story there. I did try to power off the device (which I hadn't tried before) and turned the phone back on, it did recoganize the original password. So try shutting down and restarting...it might recognize it again. or try safe mode. I'm trying to trouble shoot this. I think the ADT app might be to blame?
This happened to me last week as well. A couple reboots cleared it up. Very odd though.
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And I just fixed it myself by happy accident. We decided to bite the bullet and do a factory reset via recovery BUT I goofed and went into bootloader instead (vol down instead of up). When the phone rebooted I tried the pin and it works once again. If it happens again, I'll try booting to recovery and then rebooting to system to see if it fixes the issue too. I've had a bunch of Android phones, a few of them Samsungs and this has never happened before.
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Saved my freaking life man! Same thing happened to my wife's phone. I went into Boot Mode (power down, the on power up hold power and volume down button), then selected start phone normally.
Her original PIN worked! She was freaking out!
Thank you!
Not sure if Boot Mode was needed or just a normal reboot... But it's fixed!
Same problem. Luckily I barely use this phone for anything other than calls. I did a hard reset immediately. You guys are not the only ones out there.
My Samsung S7 Edge just did the same thing this AM. PIN changed, no idea what it is. Fingerprint works. Will back it up and do the reboot first. TMobile so this issue is not Sprint specific.
This just happened to my wife's s7 (Verizon) if you reboot the phone for any reason the back up pin or pattern is required it which it was but doesn't work... And of course were not sure if she made a Samsung account cause if you have a Samsung account supposedly you can change the password from a browser through that site. With this and the screen randomly shutting off and not coming back to life til you run through the boot menu I'm not so sure I'll be getting another Samsung phone.
This glitch of auto PIN change occurred on my Verizon S7
:crying: To be clear, this occurs on other carriers as I am using Verizon. Issue: PIN is no longer recognized but fingerprint works only until the device is rebooted. If rebooted, fingerprint no longer works and all you can do is receive calls. Samsung advised me that Verizon has a way to reset password.
As I write, Verizon (a level 2 tier tech named William) was able to show me how to fix this by logging into my Google account, and enabling "lock and erase" and clicking on "lock" I was able to change my PIN and my phone works fine! Now I am updating the software as Samsung released a software update on September 1, 2016, that fixes the problem. A word to everyone: be sure your google account is active and includes your S7. Be sure to download the software update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jph8tr said:
As an update, after this happened to my wife's phone it happened to mine a couple of days later. After an apparent reboot over night (update?) my password was gone and I was unable to access the phone. Tried everything including contacting both Sprint, Samsung, tried bootloader and recovery, device manager, ect. No luck. Eventually had to reset. After reset, I changed to pattern (least favorite security option) and the issue hasn't reoccurred.(yet?) even with many reboots. I'm giving it another week and I will set up Samsung Pay and play 50 questions with my bank and cc cards.....again. I was in Home Depot with 500lbs of mulch on my cart when I realized I had no wallet. No problem, I can use Samsung Pay.....till I remember that the card info was wiped out with the last reset...DOH! Tech fail! I won't use a pin or password till I'm sure this bug has been squished.
From what I've gleaned, this is a bug specific to Sprint variants of the S7 and Sprint is aware of the problem.
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universityextension said:
:crying: To be clear, this occurs on other carriers as I am using Verizon. Issue: PIN is no longer recognized but fingerprint works only until the device is rebooted. If rebooted, fingerprint no longer works and all you can do is receive calls. Samsung advised me that Verizon has a way to reset password.
As I write, Verizon (a level 2 tier tech named William) was able to show me how to fix this by logging into my Google account, and enabling "lock and erase" and clicking on "lock" I was able to change my PIN and my phone works fine! Now I am updating the software as Samsung released a software update on September 1, 2016, that fixes the problem. A word to everyone: be sure your google account is active and includes your S7. Be sure to download the software update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I tried the Google method but every time I try to change the pin it just tells me that Google verified that there is already a lock screen pin so the new pin/password won't be necessary.. l would love to find a fairly simple route as all the adb pin/password removal videos and such are a little different and well it's my wife's phone so it's a little more important to save her stuff then mine
Hi guys, today when i rebooted my Vernee Apollo Lite i got stucked when trying to access my phone supposely because i was putting a wrong pin when trying to access the android system. I'm pretty sure that i was putting the pin well but nothing works. I've even already done a hard reset to the phone but it stills ask me for a pin that i don't know which is. Can anyone please try to help?

Asus Zenfone 3 Max ZC553KL - Forgotten PIN ,possibly an unusual case though

So ,yeah ,I forgot the PIN code on my phone. I have an Asus Zenfone 3 Max ZC553KL and it does this strange thing every once in a while - it asks for my PIN code instead of my fingerprint reading when I try to enter my phone. It is absolutely adamant about it - no other options are available and I don't have an option to just recover/reset my PIN through my Google account or something like Samsung phones have. So ,of course this happens to me and I realise I have forgotten my PIN in the worst possible moment. Whatever has happened ,has happened ,but I believe my situation is a bit different that usual ,so don't just go ahead and comment I should factory reset my phone or something like that. I'm not giving up on my data.
So ,for some strange reason (totally coincidental) I have pretty much the exact same PIN on my laptop too (I just remembered that) ,but I also have a plethora of other sign-in options on my laptop so thankfully I'm not locked out of it as well. So I have been trying to brute force the PIN on my laptop hoping to find the right PIN and therefore unlock my phone as well. I wouldn't be able to do this on my phone since the amount of time I have to wait between tries doubles every 5-10 tries or so - from 30 to 60 to 120 seconds each time.
So ,the reason for my posting this in the first place is that I need suggestions and recommendations. Is there perhaps a faster way to do this? Should I try some other methods?
Currently I'm trying my hardest to remember some fragments of the 4 digit PIN's sequence and I'm 90% sure there are no repeating digits in the PIN. Tried around 90 combinations so far and I don't want to waste any more time if there happens to be a more efficient way.
FYI: My device is fully rooted and has TWRP custom recovery. One ,hopefully insignificant ,problem I have is that my phone's data is encrypted (I don't even know how I managed to root my phone having had this problem but it somehow happened). And what this means for me in the long run is that I cannot possibly backup any of my phone's data through TWRP or however else and thus my only option is no data wipe.
I will be giving up on unlocking it for today and start afresh tomorrow. Thanks in advance!
(I'm thinking of maybe trying out some brute force or dictionary attack type of method through some third party app on my laptop so I can figure it out for my phone. Dunno if that is even possible or feasible. Would be even better if I could just seen the PIN on my laptop since I'm already signed in but no ,why should it be easy.)

Maximum number of home screen unlock attempts? Attempting to back up an old phone (Nexus 4, which I updated to Android 5.0)

I am attempting to backup the data (mainly SMS messages) on my old LG Nexus 4. I believe this came with Android 4.2 when I purchased it, but I updated it to 5.0 (Lollipop) at some point. This is unfortunate because it's been so long that I no longer remember the screen unlock pattern, and after Android 4.4 it seems you can no longer reset this with your Google account.
I have made a few wrong attempts already, and don't want to do any more if there's a chance of permanently wiping my device. Having searched Google, some say that the device will permanently lock after 10 attempts, others say there is no maximum attempts but there is a 30 second wait added after a certain point. Which is correct? I have a few more ideas for what might be the right pattern but only want to continue if there are an unlimited number of attempts.
As well, if anyone has any ideas for accessing my device some other way, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your help!
To update, I've tried 5 times to guess the pattern and get the message "You have incorrectly drawn your unlock pattern 5 times. Try again in 30 seconds."
This is the behaviour that other people have described where their phone essentially allows unlimited guesses (after 30 seconds for each 5 guesses). So I'm more confident that I could keep guessing (so far have not been given a warning about wiping the phone), but I am also concerned there could still be an underlying counter (e.g., 30 attempts), after which it will wipe.
Does anyone know if I'm in the clear to keep guessing?

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