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Sim Clone?

Hi
I love my XDA Exec to bits, but find it a bit of a pain to take out and about at evenings and weekends. I have a Jabra bluetooth headset, which works a treat, but still means finding a bag or massive pocket to store the brick in.
What I’d love to be able to do is use another, much smaller, ‘normal’ handset, using the same number, but without having to faff about changing the SIM from one to the other. I believe that some providers offer a second SIM, but I don’t think that O2 do. I’ve heard about SIM cloning, but I suspect that’s a rocky road to go down, legally.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Cheers

contact your carrier's service center and order a second sim for the same number, it should be as simple as that.

I wish it was as simple. Unfortunately, O2 won't allow me to have two SIM cards with the same number.

Vodafone has this...
What you are looking is called on Vodafone network Multicard, here in Spain Multitarjeta. I am using this with my JJ, primary card, (GSM works with data GPRS,3G and SMS) and secondary card is in my Nokia 6600 (can’t do data nor SMS). This option gives me the freedom to pickup a call on any of these two and they are on at the same time.
There is another solution, called Vodafone Nexus which is similar thing, you can have GSM+DATA+SMS on both terminals but not at the same time, one of them needs to be off.
As far as I know, only Vodafone is giving these options and it costs me 3€ per month…

Universal and PTT

Hi, is there any chance to use PushToTalk service on Universal, as like as it is on Nokia phones, and if yes how to do it
thanx
ZeD

Does PTT work over GSM?! I didn't think it did, but it is the subject area of my current job so I'll ask about it tomorrow!
I would imagine that if you wanted to use PTT on Windows Mobile you would probably have difficulties with responsiveness. All the Universal's keys & buttons are processed with software, which then instructs the hardware to connect the microphone/earpiece and make the call (or open the channel.) That can be slow - certainly my Universal seems very sluggish to do anything now, I think it's probably got a very fragmented filesystem!

my mum has a gsm nokia with a ptt button but her provider doesn't support it so no settings.
does it just work on US networks? i seem to remember an article in a british brochure about 1.5 years ago saying it would be the next big thing.

I think someone tried offering a contract with unlimited PTT talk usage between a call group and calls at a standard rate, so everyone just used the PTT functionality.
Had a chat with our technical sales chap, he tells me that Orange tried a PTT over Cellular (PoC) solution but it never really took off. Apparently Nextel do a PTT solution but they use PMR. So I'd be interested to know which country you're in to have a current PoC solution?
A better place to start might be with a Google Search for "Push To Talk" "Windows Mobile 5" - though that really just brought me a lot of pages with empty-looking promises from Microsoft that Windows Mobile 5 would support PoC.

i don't know if it works in my GSM provider / Orange Slovakia, but i saw this option in menu on my father's Nokia so i just wanted to know if it is really possible, and if yes, if it is also possible for Uni
ZeD

To be supported, it must be part of your contract with Orange, and the person you want to talk to must also have it enabled and be part of your "call group". The feature is principally for enterprise customers, so I expect they would charge a high premium for a single user!!

Unlocked G1 on O2 - No More Calls?

Help!
I've got an unlocked G1 bought off eBay in early December. Up until today it's been working without any problems. However at 11am today it dropped off the O2 network and I can't get voice / text. I still have data access though.
Here's what I've tried:
1. My SIM in another phone - fine
2. Other SIMs in my G1 - no network registration except for a TMobile SIM.
3. Soft reset of G1
4. Hard reset of G1.
5. Wipe and reflash using update.zip method off microSD card to UK RC8 - no difference.
I'm desperate here - got multiple important calls pending over the next few days..
If I use "Search Networks" and manually select O2, I get the message "Your sim card does not allow a connection to this network".
"Registering automatically" also fails (but silently).
How can I get my G1 up and running ??

Try getting a new sim card from O2?

Currently using my SIM in another phone without issue (on the same cell tower too).

CodeMonkey said:
Currently using my SIM in another phone without issue (on the same cell tower too).
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Some random setting might be off? Here is another thread with O2 discussion and APN info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3174050#post3174050
--M

demontefixo said:
Some random setting might be off? Here is another thread with O2 discussion and APN info...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3174050#post3174050
--M
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Nope - it literally dropped off the network after being in use with no problems after a month.
Can connect to o2 data channels, just no voice / text. Connects to voice with T-Mobile SIM only.
I've redone the settings 1/2 a dozen times as part of the whole wipe / re-flash circle of life thing...
Given up now - will test with PAYG TMobile and sell on eBay for parts / working. Can't be dealing with it for now but will return to Android when it's a little maturer and my contract's due.

I'm having the exact same problem. Anyone ever find a solution? I phoned T-Mobile and they told me to type in something involving the PUK code, but I didn't think it'd do anything.
I typed it in, and it's just stuck now. Saying unblocked, now unlocking.
Anyone help?

petertheface said:
I'm having the exact same problem. Anyone ever find a solution? I phoned T-Mobile and they told me to type in something involving the PUK code, but I didn't think it'd do anything.
I typed it in, and it's just stuck now. Saying unblocked, now unlocking.
Anyone help?
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I've got a pay as you go T Mobile SIM in mine now. Registers with nework ok but won't make / receive phone calls / messages..
Going through the mill with T Mobile support in the hope they've seen this before..

Hey,
I'm from Germany and wanted to complete an O2 contract and use it with my G1.
But before I make the contract I used an O2-prepaid card (O2 loop). Im connected to the next O2 cell and calling works great. (running ADP1 JF 1.31 fw)
The cell-tower are not the same as t-mobile and vodafone and the active O2-cell is changing very often.
I hope O2 contract will work, because it's the cheapest kind of data plan.

CodeMonkey said:
I've got a pay as you go T Mobile SIM in mine now. Registers with nework ok but won't make / receive phone calls / messages..
Going through the mill with T Mobile support in the hope they've seen this before..
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*sigh*
Looks like it's borked.. I give up..
Anyone want to have a go?
* shameless plug * (mods please edit this out if inappropriate)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-G1-Mobile...MobilePhonesQ5fMobilePhonesQQsalenotsupported

will you ship to US?

neoobs said:
will you ship to US?
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Sadly no :-(

i had the same problem with my touch hd,also brought from ebay as it was unlocked.used it and worked well for 3 weeks then wouldnt make calls but would connect to the internet.after weeks of trying i found out from my network provider that the phone is blocked ie reported stolen.so the person who sold it me had done an insurance scam.he diidnt get away with it though as i reported him to ebay and the police.and i got a new 1 from my insurance.so im happy now.you should ask your network to check the imei against thier database to see if your phone has been reported as stolen

mrcraig said:
i had the same problem with my touch hd,also brought from ebay as it was unlocked.used it and worked well for 3 weeks then wouldnt make calls but would connect to the internet.after weeks of trying i found out from my network provider that the phone is blocked ie reported stolen.so the person who sold it me had done an insurance scam.he diidnt get away with it though as i reported him to ebay and the police.and i got a new 1 from my insurance.so im happy now.you should ask your network to check the imei against thier database to see if your phone has been reported as stolen
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Looks like you were spot on mate.
Just done a CheckMend report indicating that the IMEI has been blocked on "one or more UK networks".
I've pulled my auction (of course) as I'm an honest seller.
Will have to do some digging as to why - tense email to original seller tonight I think, then maybe the police etc in the morning.

CodeMonkey said:
Looks like you were spot on mate.
Just done a CheckMend report indicating that the IMEI has been blocked on "one or more UK networks".
I've pulled my auction (of course) as I'm an honest seller.
Will have to do some digging as to why - tense email to original seller tonight I think, then maybe the police etc in the morning.
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Blocked by T-Mobile at someone else's request.
Paypal - no resolution as > 45 days (nicely timed by seller it seems)
Time for the police *sigh*

Wow! Turns out my phone was blacklisted too! Thanks SOO much! I never would have thought to check to see if it had been reported stolen.
Need to chase up eBay seller now though. Fun.

Well - after hammering away at this for nearly 3 days...
I have a crime reference number!
Which means that PayPal / eBay / T Mobile will need to investigate.
Friendly advice to any others in this situation - I was told initially by the desk officer at my local police station that this was "a civil matter". Thankfully I ignored that and spoke to the local headquarters - they've confirmed that it's a criminal matter and they will be investigating further. So stick to your guns ;-)
Fingers crossed, and good luck to anyone else out there in the same situation.

Apologies for the bump
I apologize for bumping the thread after all this time, but i've had this happen to my G1 just today. After months of flawless use my unlocked G1 suddenly decided to not like any SIMs but a T-Mobile one. Annoyingly IMEI checks show that it's not blacklisted, using both CheckMEND and calling O2 direct and asking them if they have a blacklist flag on it, which they didn't.
I'm wondering if CodeMonkey, or anyone else, managed to get anywhere with a claim or a reason or solution to any of it?
Also, i'm curious as to whether or not we have the same Ebay seller, just to ease paranoia of a scam of some kind going on.
Cheers
-- dil

dilandou said:
I'm wondering if CodeMonkey, or anyone else, managed to get anywhere with a claim or a reason or solution to any of it?
Also, i'm curious as to whether or not we have the same Ebay seller, just to ease paranoia of a scam of some kind going on.
Cheers
-- dil
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This is still with the police *sigh*. Currently chasing down the T-mobile account holder who blocked it originally and the seller. Given up much hope of getting my money back but hoping to take the £350 I'm down by out of the guilty party's hide through the criminal justice system. As far as I can determine, this is either insurance fraud (account holder sells phone for cash, reports as lost and claims off TMobile insurance) or theft & selling stolen goods.. I personally think it's an attempt at insurance fraud by some dimwit as the phone came in it's original packaging with accessories still sealed.
I won't post the seller's name on a public forum in case they're an innocent party, however PM me the details of yours and I'll respond. If it is the same seller I'll update the police appropriately so they can widen the investigation and get in touch with you (if you want to go down that path)..
**EDIT**
Update - compared sellers and they're not the same: watch out if buying on eBay peeps.

I am glad that I found this threat, to learn I am not crazy. Bought a German G1 via ebay, and the first day (wih original FW) everything was fine. At least i think so as I didn't use it much. Then I upgraded manually to latest German RC9 version. While the phone showed to be connected to o2 and internet was working fine, I noticed only one day later that I was not able to make outbound calls or send SMS. Also other o2 customer got error tone (no real message why not reachable) when calling me, SMS didn't arrive. However the most weird thing was that it was possible to call my mobile phone from my fix/land line! Again, for other mobile phones I was not reachable, but land line worked?!
While beeing frustraded I did HW reset and the FW update again, but still same problem. Still in the evening of the same day I left my house, sitting on the airport - and suddenly it worked smoothly. Since that, for a week now, everything works fine.
No, I don't undertand this at all. And I think this was in my case also no issue of being blacklisted as it works now, without doing anything. Letäs hope it does not have a fall back.

G1 Swindle
Hey guys
It looks like I have also been swindled by some chump on ebay and my G1 has been blocked. Has anyone any idea if the phone can be wiped and rebooted in a fashion that clears it from any blocking register?
Otherwise I'm stuck with a very expensive paper weight!!

No SE X1 in ATT acct Management!

For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.

alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??

gtrab said:
Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??
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Could you please elaborate. There is no HTC kovsky in the list of possible devices. The only HTC item is "Fuze black".

I had the same problem. I called AT&T to give them my imei number and to change my data plan and The lady kept insisting that I was using a Motorola Q. I insisted that I was not and that I was holding my x1 in my hand. She said she did an imei search and that I was wrong and kept insisting my phone was a Q! I finally just hung up. My phone under my acct. management page stills shows as a Q.

if att does not sell the xperia, i don't think that they would have it on their devices list.

Isn't that a good thing that you can go for the cheaper $15 unlimited data plan?

Couldn't u just pop ur sim in an old regular phone, change the plan and then pop the sim back into the xperia?

did you get a 3g sim card for your x1? thats what the lady told me to do because i initially wasnt getting texts nor internet.
for some reason, the lady i talked to was very helpful and was able to change all the settings on my plan - i just explained to her what kind of phone it was, smartphone with hsdpa?, so on and so on
hope this helps

The AT&T phone tool is garbage. Some of the promotional tools insists that the agent ties the IMEI number to the feature in order to add it to your account. It is ridiculous that the IMEI comes up as a different phone as an IMEI supposedly represents the DNA of the phone. Albeit the X1i is not a supported AT&T phone it should not populate as any other phone in their system at all. Maybe this is AT&Ts sly way to squeeze out any users using non-supported handsets. We already know they are capable of taking that route seeing how the iPhone conditions panned out.

AT&T Idiots
You can't call them to get any help. They go only on the IMEI # now, because they send you packets via sms/mms for the specific phone that comes up with that number. This way there is no knowledge needed of how to actually walk someone through settings. Obviously they don' t offer the X1 so they have any sort of support for it. I went through ten minutes of telling some woman it wasn't a razor! I just went to the store and told the guy I have a fuze and I wanted off my Iphone plan. He didn't even look at the phone and that was that.

IMEIs went from having the first 6 as an identfier to the first 8. This means that some IMEI lookup still pick up old phones.
Suppose the only trick if ATT aren't helping is to borrow a phone which can be identified that has similar features and to stick your SIM in it.

alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.

williamn said:
What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.
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LOL! I'm not trying to change anything. I'm fine with my plan. I was just curious as to why my phone was being classified as a Moto Q and wondered if anyone else had the same issue.
When I was with T-Mobile, their database would show my phone even if it wasnt offered by T-Mob.

CID unlock HTC Magic A6161

Hi guys!
I've been reading (and searching) around the android device forums (dream, magic, hero) and I still can't find a helpful entry on where to unlock ng Smart Telecom locked (Philippines) Magic A6161 unit. I've tried 2 sites but both issued non working system / network unlock codes. This is really depressing.
I read within the Hero forums regarding the unlock method using a modified serial - mini usb cable. will this work for the magic? Or better yet, can anyone help me unlock the unit? Thanks so much
shoktong

your thoughts on this, guys?

im also encountering the same problem i have a htc magic phone locked to smart and also tried 3 different sites and all of them have a wrong code.
if you find a site that can give the correct code, can you share it?
the phone is with me for over a month now and i still can't find a website that can supply the right code.

Look for member Olipro (Legend!) he may be able to help

same problem
I also encountered the same problem.
unlock code purchased online didn't work for my Smart communication's HTC Magic. Really need alternate solution for this.
i want to use Globe sim card on my Magic, and switch my Smart sim card to other phone.
Smart don't have unlimited surfing plan, using Smart sim card on HTC magic really killing me.
Last month billing cost me PHP 26,000 (around 550 USD).
they charged PHP 10 (0.2 USD) for each internet connection. Imagine if you have more than 30 mails per day. Push a mail cost you PHP 10, and cost you another PHP 10 to read and reply. This will cost me total of PHP 20 just read and reply a mail.
Although Smart Communication provide PHP 10 / 30 min internet connection charge, but this doesn't work with push mail and using some application required internet connection.

WOW $550! That's insane!
Sorry I can't help but I have a bit of an OT question.
I'm planning to go to the Philipines this comming June and I was wondering what would be the best company for me to deal with during my visit. Since my HTC Magic is from Canada i believe the 3G bands are incompatible so really I'm looking at basic texting, airtime minutes for about a month long stay.

Any update if you have successfully unlocked your HTC Magic A6161 from Smart?

Please help us

i found a solution... you dont need to unlock the phone.
when i went to greenhills to have my phone unlocked for the 5th time and still no code available. One of the technicians offered me to use an ex sim. It looks like a generic sim card thats transparent that you put under the sim card of any brand. For me i use Globe. Try it. it costs P1200 much less compared to the price they were offering me when they said that it takes P2500 to unlock the phone.
Hope this will help!

linds said:
i found a solution... you dont need to unlock the phone.
when i went to greenhills to have my phone unlocked for the 5th time and still no code available. One of the technicians offered me to use an ex sim. It looks like a generic sim card thats transparent that you put under the sim card of any brand. For me i use Globe. Try it. it costs P1200 much less compared to the price they were offering me when they said that it takes P2500 to unlock the phone.
Hope this will help!
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Where I can buy it?
I write to Smart, and there say:
Dear Sir Victor,
Thank you for constantly communicating with us.
We understand your sentiments regarding your request to provide you with the network code. However as previously discussed, unlocking your handset is not encouraged so as not for you to encounter handset problems in the future.
In case you would still want to unlock your phone, any Service Centers in your location can assist you with this matter.
Sir Victor, we hope this information helps.
If you have other concerns or queries, please feel free to email us again.
Sincerely,
Cathy Santos / cgc
Customer Care

when i called smart they told me that they dont offer any unlocking service for the unit so i just went to greenhills shopping center. theres a place there where people sell and repair celphones. Tell them your phone is locked to smart and you have tried codes on the internet and it doesnt work. Ask for an ex sim. and try it on your phone.

Dear friends I live in Russia
we don't have "greenhills"
may be another solutions?

I'd take a look on Dealextreme
It's a China based technology shop where you can find the "smart sim", which is a generic phone unlocking card. You put it between the sim connector on your phone and the sim card you want to use, and it's supposed to unlock the phone. If you take it out, the phone remains locked, but as long as you keep it inside, the phone will act as unlocked.
The "smart sim" cards are supposed to work on several brands, and are quite inexpensive. If it works on your phone, it's a good, and very cheap, solution to the unlocking problems. There are several models, and the latest ones should be working with your phone.
Good luck.

I guess its confirmed then. You can't network unlock an HTC Magic from Smart. I just bought a code and it does not work at all. They said that they checked and double checked and the code they gave me is correct. Oh well, probably gonna sell this unit and Greenhills as a downpayment on an openline unit.