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I just had a really crazy idea... no doubt I'm not the first but I havnt ready about this anywhere.
Before I go on I am NOT a programmer at all. I know nothing about that sort of thing but I was researching PCs thinking about buying a new computer and came across the HP TouchSmart PC. Basically you get a PC with a large touchscreen monitor and a full suite of aps modded to make it work well with touching the screen instead of using a mouse. Much like what we do with out phones.
Now, would it not be possible AND cool to just have a simple HTC Cube like program running on a standard PC. It would be really handy if you had a touch PC for sure but playing around on here and just using a mouse that in itself would be handy too. Being able to hold down say, the right finger mouse button and drag your mouse up quickly would bring up a cube like shortcut seen on the HTC Touch phones. Customizable of course so that it has shortcuts to whatever we would want. I can't imagine that this would be hard to do. Probably alot easier then it was to make Cube aps for other touchscreen phones. Swipping the mouse across the screen left or right could get you to other cube sides. Again, like on our phones.
This may seem completly assinine and useless but I just think it would be a cool little feature to have on a PC. I'm sure if someone who has knowledge of programming could make something like that. I dont know how difficult it would be but. Hey thats just my two cents.
I do realize that this thread isnt really about phones so it may be out of place, but the idea has come from our phones so I thought I would put it out and see what sort of responce I could get. See if anyone would be in fact interested in making something like this!
Aaron
Nice idea but i guess you're wrong here with the topic. You should ask in a PC Forum wether it's possible to do that
I understood it was the wrong forum. But seeing as pretty much anyone reading this thread would understand what the HTC Cube is, thought Id test the waters. I'm not a member or any PC Forums really either. Like I said I dont really know a thing about programming but I can assume that it's sort of like riding a bike. Whether that be a basic one speed bike compared to a 12 speed. As long as you understand the main principles (ie balance) you should be able to ride most anything. So from an ignorant understanding of programming.... well programming a application for a Windows based phone or Windows based PC would sort of be like.. comparing apples with apples no? Again.. please dont flame me here for my thoughts.. Like I said.. Ignorant understanding of the computer programming world!
Aaron McCarthy said:
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Now, would it not be possible AND cool to just have a simple HTC Cube like program running on a standard PC.
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Something like this?
Sorry: new software is this.
probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
good luck to you!
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probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
good luck to you!
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Linux is the closest you will get. The XP software doesn't run nearly as well as linux because XP never really figured in workspaces where as it's completely integrated with managers like Gnome for linux. So the compiz fusion is the closest to a true cube you will get. Also, ubuntu is not the only linux distro with compiz. Any distro that can run gnome or KDE can run compiz; it's just a matter of with how much work.
To me the closest thing to a cube on the XDA phones is the cube animation in ultimate launch. But then again I love that program so I am biased
I did see that Linux based cube before but what that does is rotate to different desktops. I was thinking of a cube that is basically the same thing the HTC cube is... shortcuts. So pretty much similar to the start menu except it would be way more snazy looking and have 9 or however many shortcuts you wanted in it. 3 on each side.. you get the idea.
gotvitamink said:
probably not helping when saying this, but the newer Ubuntu Linux distros come preinstalled with a program called Compiz-Fusion, which gives linux its cube effects. I dont know if XP or Vista has any programs out there. They probably do if you google it.
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I came in here to post this...just got an Ubuntu install cd the other day, can't wait to try it out on another partition.
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I came in here to post this...just got an Ubuntu install cd the other day, can't wait to try it out on another partition.
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im thinking about switcing back to ubuntu as well, now that i know how to cook roms on it. ive also been looking at mandriva 2008.1 as well, and its easy support for wm6. ive also heard that it has the most stable compizfusion ever, which is a plus because compiz always crashes on my comp after a few days of usage.
anyway, i do believe that linuxis your best bet, althoug compiz-fusion is not very stable yet, so if you do make the switch to ubuntu, i would just make sure that you use the pre-installed effects to satisfy your needs, and not download a package caled compizconfig-settings or something like that.
as far as a shortct menu goes, im not aware of any, but i agree that it would be very convenient/cool for laptops with touchscreens...
Thanks...I'm fairly new to Linux so I'm sure there will be a slight learning curve.
u can use uBuntu (Linux)...I think it's the way, if u want to have the cube for ur dekstop...Or u can search only the transformations pack xp to ubuntu or vista to ubuntu...U can search by google...
The idea was to have a shortcut cube.... like the HTC Cube.... not a cube that rotates between different "desktops" like the linux one everyone here is discussing
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Thanks...I'm fairly new to Linux so I'm sure there will be a slight learning curve.
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I'll admit Ubuntu Linux took me a while to grasp. and with an older computer, I had to do a lot of research to get my wifi working, and the cube working as well. But now i use it almost all the time, only going back to XP on my dual-boot laptop to flash a new ROM or backup my contacts.
I've been wondering if i should check out Mandriva 2008 also. The downside of linux is that Windows Mobile is not heavily supported.
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I'll admit Ubuntu Linux took me a while to grasp. and with an older computer, I had to do a lot of research to get my wifi working, and the cube working as well. But now i use it almost all the time, only going back to XP on my dual-boot laptop to flash a new ROM or backup my contacts.
I've been wondering if i should check out Mandriva 2008 also. The downside of linux is that Windows Mobile is not heavily supported.
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eehh.. I'm no linux expert but I'm on ubuntu, coming from mandriva 2008.1. I have to see it's not very stable
Hi all,
I have the HTC Shift and i really love the on screen keyboard and the possibility, to scroll the internet explorer with the finger like on pda phones with the opera mini, f.e.
Now I have a touchscreen on my HTPC and I am thinking, if it is possible, to do the same trick on this pc! Does somebody know, which software do I have to install?
Thanks a lot,
dabra
You need a version of Vista that comes with Tablet PC software add ons.
I don't know if there is a way to get this for Vista Premium. I would like to get it for my laptop as the on-screen keyboard of Tablet PC is superiour when it comes to multiple languages.
you can get the on screen keyboard in the following location of windows
%SystemRoot%\system32\osk.exe
Thanks, but I am searching for that one, I use on the HTC Shift. It is not the windows keyboard, that is too small and not so good. I don`t think, that it has to do with the windows version, cause now I have on the Shift Windows 7 Ultimate and if I am not wrong, it was to see on the screen after I installed all of the drivers form the HTC Homepage for the Shift. So I think, one of these software/driver ist it.
Anybody knows it more specific?
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Thanks, but I am searching for that one, I use on the HTC Shift. It is not the windows keyboard, that is too small and not so good. I don`t think, that it has to do with the windows version, cause now I have on the Shift Windows 7 Ultimate and if I am not wrong, it was to see on the screen after I installed all of the drivers form the HTC Homepage for the Shift. So I think, one of these software/driver ist it.
Anybody knows it more specific?
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Vista Ultimate comes with all Tablet Functionality. And the installation should have recognized your touch screen and installed all the necessary drivers for it. Open your device manager and see what it says and fix the necessary drivers if it is giving a warning.
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Ram
saiweb said:
Vista Ultimate comes with all Tablet Functionality. And the installation should have recognized your touch screen and installed all the necessary drivers for it. Open your device manager and see what it says and fix the necessary drivers if it is giving a warning.
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Ram
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and by the way, IE7 and above support the hand tool (grab and drag or scroll)
For me when i use the firefox , i have added on grab and scroll into it , i therefore can scroll up n down with my stylus anywhere besides the scroll bar
Hello im new to android i have a advent vega but will love it to have some sort of windows on it if anyone has any ideas or if this is possible please post thanks
Apparently the next version of Windows will be able to run on ARM processors such as the Tegra 2 in the Vega. I doubt it'll end up on the Vega, though someone might port it over.
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If we do get windows on vega, would be able to install windows software such as skype,msn etc i probaly guess so but please correct if im wrong
I would be very surprised if windows will ever come to our vegas. Memory i would say is the main issue, xp would be the only one able to run with 512mb of ram, and that has poor touch screen support. I am running windows 7 with 1gb of ram (min system req) on my laptop, and it runs very slow. As far as i am aware even the netbook version needs 1gb. Be happy with android.
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
yioti said:
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
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Won't ever happen, windosws mobile is all closed source. Android is much better anyway, just get used to it
Agreed, winmob on the vega prob wont occour.
I too, miss some great apps and games which doubtfully will ever appear on andriod. The android gaming community, seems a little shallower than the wince lot.
I stll keep my htc touch and diamnd 2 specifically because of this.
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i think if we can get android 3.0 (or whatever the numbers will be) on our vega's, its more then enough to have enough fun with it, an operating system that does not thing its a smartphone and optimized for tablets. i used many android smartphones before, but using even 2.2 on vega is more fun then any smartphone i think, at least you can read web sites and not harm your eyes
PS : i have a joojoo tablet too, which runs win7 and i think android is better and faster on a tablet like vega ( tegra2 tabets).
Some of the cheap import tablets like the Zenithink ZT-180 have roms for WinCE - but from what I have read nobody really uses them since even WinCE is pretty poor as a tablet OS (well, that and the ZT-180 is pretty rubbish!).
as a student you can get the windows embedded 7 development kit for free, that should be able to run on the advent vega but my knowledge isnt yet sufficient to build and deploy a rom in order t test it
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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What about office tools? i have yet to find a decent word processor that retains all (or most) of word's features.
sadly, while gdocs looks lovely, writing documents is still a pain..
Although I also wish that I could do some serious work on my tablet / smartphone, you simply can not do it (too small screen => primarily wasn't meant for this kind of job, but it's great in mobility and therefore "valuable information on the go").
Tablets & smartphones are used to consume / present information and PCs / workstations are used to generate that information.
I have also tried all kind of Office software (QuickOffice HD, Polaris Office, Docs To Go, GDocs,...), but reality is that generating information on Android is 30-50% slower than on a 20" monitor with keyboard & mouse hooked on a PC.
Yes, you could make a new office software on Android that would need a keyboard, mouse & external monitor, but that would defeat the purpose of mobility.
And sadly there is no such good software on Android with so many funtionalities that are found in Microsoft Office.
IMHO you can do up to 30 minutes of work without problems, for anything above that, please do yourself a favor and use a PC.
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
Yes, I already heard of that tech.
It's something like remote desktop (but a bit better).
http://desktop.onlive.com/overview
Will see how this performs in real life when it's released for Android.
stokesyblack said:
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
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And that time is NOW!
OnLive Desktop is now available on Android:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
For free registration and more info, check my above post!
I would like to hear your thoughts on this software!
EDIT: It appears the download is US only.
Here is a link to APK file.
Hmmmm interesting I am downloading now
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Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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stokesyblack said:
Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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Sorry, but I haven't used this myself.
If you read my signature, I'm still on stock Froyo and this app needs at least Gingerbread.
I've read only good things about this.
I use QuickOffice for documents, but I only view documents, and these android office apps aren't even good at that!
But I've tried OnLive (for gaming) on SGS and it's amazing!!!!111one
Now to get some answers for your questions:
1. I think you need to restart your OnLive desktop in order to fully accept your mouse&keyboard input.
2. I went to https://desktop.onlive.com/account/myfiles and uploaded a doc file and then redownloaded it without a problem. I'm from Slovenia - EU and I've used Firefox on a PC with Ubuntu/Linux OS.
hi lats how to install im write my email address and nothing why sombody help mi?thanks
Would it be possible to control windows 8 on a non touch screen desktop pc or laptop with Kinect.
If someone makes the program, why not?
Of course you can, there just is'nt any (that I know of) software that's out that supports windows 8. I doubt Microsoft will ever impliment it into W8 natively, but I have no doubt that someone will impliment it themselves.
Google "Kinect minority report hack"
yes thare is. Try kinect hacks dot com!
you will need to install Prime Sence & Open NI or Open NI64 & probly some other niffty drivers for kinect finding the most resent versions of this software requires alot of digging at the moment and getting them working is not for the week harted you will need to fallow thare install notes & tutorials exactly!
you must have a kinect bought sepretly from a console that comes with an external power sorce and pc usb addapter!
works on windows 7 as well!
if you can post the software you find hear & your experiance's that would be good!
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yes thare is. Try kinect hacks dot com!
you will need to install Prime Sence & Open NI or Open NI64 & probly some other niffty drivers for kinect finding the most resent versions of this software requires alot of digging at the moment and getting them working is not for the week harted you will need to fallow thare install notes & tutorials exactly!
you must have a kinect bought sepretly from a console that comes with an external power sorce and pc usb addapter!
works on windows 7 as well!
if you can post the software you find hear & your experiance's that would be good!
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I have used that software before and I know a little about Kinect "Hacks".
But does this really support the Metro UI?
And is there any software that will allow you to use Kinect as a touchscreen (on Windows 7 or 8) that is built using the offical MS SDK?
hixsonkevin said:
I doubt Microsoft will ever impliment it into W8 natively, but I have no doubt that someone will impliment it themselves.
Google "Kinect minority report hack"
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I don't think so, Metro UI is an interface that can be successfully adapted to kinect, like new XBOX live dashboard.
Also I read something about it, but can't found where.
Edit: http://www.windows8news.com/2011/09/11/windows-8-expecting/
Purchased last week a notebook with Windows 8 (64bit). Couldn't find a way to run the metro apps provided in a window, they all run fullscreen mode. Anyone an idea how to accomplish this? Any hints welcome.
Baltasar1 said:
Purchased last week a notebook with Windows 8 (64bit). Couldn't find a way to run the metro apps provided in a window, they all run fullscreen mode. Anyone an idea how to accomplish this? Any hints welcome.
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I use ModernMix from Stardock. Works great for me.
http://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/
The behavior you're asking for is not officially supported. There are various third-party hacks to do it, like ModernMix. It's also possible to "snap" a Modern app one side of the screen by moving your mouse to the top edge of the screen, grabbing that edge, and dragging it to one side. Doing so will let you display the Desktop or some other Windows app on the remaining majority of the display.
Thank you guys for the info. Will give ModernMix a try.
I have found another tool to make "start" windowed.
http://solo-soft.com/modernStart/modernStart.zip