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i was wondering if anyone could help, ive been giving an xda 2 as a company phone it had idesta now software on it to log into the work network,
( i work in a service based industry so we use them instead of jobsheets and the customers sign the phone) the problem is we have been told the we are not allowed to use the camera or connect any device to them ever, and if we do they will find out about it, and we will be in big doo doo, can they find out? if so how can i stop them, also we only apparently have guest windows logins to them, any thoughts?
I was talking to some co-workers about my G1 and the features that the 1.5 firmware adds to the phone. One co-worker says he'll never get an Android phone because he heard it had security issues. Specifically, he heard that the phone's location services is always broadcasting the phone's location while the phone is on, and that it is possible to use that broadcast to remotely connect to the phone (and therefore take data off the phone).
I tried searching, but couldn't find anything in Google or elsewhere that confirms or refutes this supposed security issue. Anybody know if this security issue is real or is my co-worker misinformed?
I guess he might be referring to Google Latitude. Latitude is a service similar to Loopt that lets you share your location with a list of Google contacts of your choosing. It's completely optional and off by default. There is another remote access service where Android Market may remotely delete an installed app that was downloaded from the Android Market if it was found to have violated one of the Market's TOS. This does not affect apps not installed by Market. A similar guideline is in place with the iPhone and Blackberry stores.
All phones that access a cellular network can be tracked some way or another, regardless of what operating system is installed. It's not hard to understand why: in order to use the cell network, you have to connect to a cell. Now that cell knows approximately in a few km radius where you are. Using timing triangulation, cell networks can locate a person to a few hundred meters. This kind of information is accessible by emergency services.
In reality, your coworker(s) are no more qualified to speak on Android as they are about any other mobile phone operating system on its privacy as they (I assume) have never seen the source code of any of them.
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I was talking to some co-workers about my G1 and the features that the 1.5 firmware adds to the phone. One co-worker says he'll never get an Android phone because he heard it had security issues. Specifically, he heard that the phone's location services is always broadcasting the phone's location while the phone is on, and that it is possible to use that broadcast to remotely connect to the phone (and therefore take data off the phone).
I tried searching, but couldn't find anything in Google or elsewhere that confirms or refutes this supposed security issue. Anybody know if this security issue is real or is my co-worker misinformed?
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Android is one of the (if not absolutely the) most secure mobile OS available.
Providing the location of the device is PURELY OPTIONAL, and does not IN ANY WAY create a security risk. Just because you know the location of something does not mean that you can get into it. Take an armored car as an example. It can be driving down the street right in front of you, and that does NOT help you break in to it.
In fact, the location is absolutely USELESS for breaking into something. If there was a security vulnerability, it would be the NETWORK ADDRESS (location independent) that would give someone a viable attack.
Now as it sits, Android is Linux -- well known for very strong security (unlike that redmond virus that is known for seeking out and installing every kind of self destruct mechanism it can find). But unlike a standard linux distribution, when multiple programs are run by a single user, each of those programs are run as a DIFFERENT USER. Each program gets unique credentials within the system and is isolated from all the other programs. That means that if you have one program that is BOTH listening for network connections AND provides some bug/backdoor/etc. through which someone could break in, then that person breaking in would be restricted strictly to the userspace of that particular program. In other words, they could get or break the data for THAT PROGRAM and not any other program.
You can get the same degree of poorly written programs for ALL operating systems. What makes a system secure is what it does to keep one broken program from taking down the rest of the system, and for this, Android is very strong.
So now you can tell your coworker that he is full of $61t.
Can someone indulge us on how Iphone's security works? I'm pretty sure that it's inferior to G1's but I'd like to know the facts so I can stick it to couple fanboys that I know.
I truly believe that either I have a different ROM, chevron.exe or my phone hates me. Phone say nothing about HTC at the moment. I have the TMOUS HD2. Its unlocked on AT&T. I have a Key from MS.
Feel free to add more Ideas for people to try, I'll update daily, maybe it'll help someone else
I've Tired all of this, and no cigar
Stock 16gb SD from HTC , replacement
1. Made sure It wasn't a guest / Tired with as well
2. Installed SDK
3. Reflashed
4. Hardset
5. Date / Time and turn off auto
6. Ran as ADMIN
7. Checked the REG, never had to change it
8. Tried my 32 bit W7 netbook
9. Re-installed Zune
10. Airplane mode
11. Made sure it was unlocked / even set to never
12. Installed Cer over and over
13. Turn of GPS
14. Tired diffident usb ports
15. Ran Netstat -a and even montiored with Wireshark for 433
16. Close nearly every process and service on the system
17. changed theme to blue (lol)
18. turned off host read only
19. Check usb update
20. Ran from C:
21. Ran chevron under different compatibles
22. Disabled Network adapter
23. Disabled Firewall
24. Disabled AntiVirus service
25. Try while battery at 100%
26. Installed cer. with different emails
27. The "WPConnect. WHILE it connects, continue to repeatedly press "Unlock" button in Chevron" Method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918710
28. Cursed at it in frustration
Other: My personal problems
1. When installing from Market off phone message "Cant get this info right now. Check back in a little while." Been getting that since I had WP7. I have code from MS
2.Purchased apps though Zune software never ends up on my device.
3.Cant send or receive MMS messages with my unlocked TMOUS on AT&T. Message says "Can't send media content. Contact your mobile operator". Tried APN settings
4. Most of this crap seems It cant be fixed with out the other somehow.
Overall, I have been able to do nothing to it but, add accounts ... I've spent at least 30 hours
DJTJ said:
I truly believe that either I have a different ROM, chevron.exe or my phone hates me. Phone say nothing about HTC at the moment. I have the TMOUS HD2. Its unlocked on AT&T. I have a Key from MS.
Feel free to add more Ideas for people to try, I'll update daily, maybe it'll help someone else
I've Tired all of this, and no cigar
Stock 16gb SD from HTC , replacement
1. Made sure It wasn't a guest / Tired with as well
2. Installed SDK
3. Reflashed
4. Hardset
5. Date / Time and turn off auto
6. Ran as ADMIN
7. Checked the REG, never had to change it
8. Tried my 32 bit W7 netbook
9. Re-installed Zune
10. Airplane mode
11. Made sure it was unlocked / even set to never
12. Installed Cert over and over
13. Turn of GPS
14. Tired diffident usb ports
15. Ran Netstat -a and even montiored with Wireshark for 433
16. Close nearly every process and service on the system
17. changed theme to blue (lol)
18. turned off host read only
19. Check usb update
20. Ran from C:
21. Ran chevron under different compatibles
22. Disabled Network adapter
23. Disabled Firewall
24. Disabled AntiVirus service
25. Cursed at it in frustration
Other: My personal problems
1. When installing from Market off phone message "Cant get this info right now. Check back in a little while." Been getting that since I had WP7. I have code from MS
2.Purchased apps though Zune software never ends up on my device.
3.Cant send or receive MMS messages with my unlocked TMOUS on AT&T. Message says "Can't send media content. Contact your mobile operator". Tried APN settings
4. Most of this crap seems It cant be fixed with out the other somehow.
Overall, I have been able to do nothing to it but, add accounts ... I've spent at least 30 hours
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i tried all of these.. only got it working after turning off the firewall on my PC (w7)
Same here!
In your list u don't speak about the .cer.
It's breaking my ba**s
Take a look at this pictures... I don't understand anything!
@ G-ThGraf
I totally understand ... I have no idea what else we could possibly do.
Could u test it?
(i remove WP7 for now)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918710
make sure ur not of DFT screen or in standby mode make sure ur in the windows screen when u run cheveron
Did u install the certificate ?
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make sure ur not of DFT screen or in standby mode make sure ur in the windows screen when u run cheveron
Did u install the certificate ?
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Thanks, but Yes I did, still nothing
It works for me !
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It works for me !
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What did u do?
Ok i too tried everything and it works randomly for me... not sure when it works.. things i do..
kill everything skype, gtalk, blah blah basically have nothing running..
and then download different versions of this chevron tool.. i found like three of them .. it could be the same file.. but jus download all of em..
then in the phone switch off wifi,
switch on airplan mode,
set date to october 1 2011(do this in pc too),
keep the time zones same in both pc and phone..
and now try to unlock from chevron in one folder, doesn't work remove the usb cable connect it again try using chevron from another folder..
do this repeatedly you will get it unlocked at one point of time for sure.... i am still trying to find out which is the correct fix....
Only after you unlock it , you will able to change the registry to mask your phone as HD7 and then only you will be able to download antyhing from market... b4 that you will only get "Cant get this info right now"
hope this helps, dont give up, you will get it done.... even after this i get "Service unavailable" in market... which is weird no one else get that.. i am trying to solve it...
Can anybody else connect to a WPA2 Enterprise Wi-Fi network? I get "Authentication error" every time despite using the correct settings for the networks. I'm waiting for my current month to get closer to ending before activating my Crystal (don't want to throw away too much $$$), but I doubt it is a factor.
My college uses WPA2 Enterprise for all Wi-Fi networks except for the Open network (and it's a little obvious why Open isn't a good thing...).
I even went to my school's IT department to see if there was anything they could do and weren't able to do anything. They double-checked the settings and used other profiles, and still weren't able to connect.
They say it's a firmware issue since it will connect to the Open network, and I believe them. My current phone is the LG Optimus F3 on Virgin, and it'll successfully connect to the same networks the Crystal won't on the stock firmware (ZV5), but when I update to either the ZV6 or ZV7 firmware I get the same issue: an authentication error.
Thanks.
Me too
Have the same issue. Is this a certificate issue? Seems to me i have seen this before on another device and this was the issue.
Thanks,
Phil
I too am having this issue, whenever trying to connect to the secure university website... I cannot access data and have no signal anywhere, any patches?
I contacted Sharp about it on Friday and got a call back today. The guy called right as I was about to be occupied for the next few hours, so I couldn't troubleshoot and rescheduled for tomorrow.
If it is able to be corrected, I will post the steps to do so.
piook said:
Have the same issue. Is this a certificate issue? Seems to me i have seen this before on another device and this was the issue.
Thanks,
Phil
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It might be a certificate issue since my college specifically tells us (students) to uncheck "validate certificates" in the connection wizard when initially trying to connect to the network(s) on our laptops. The IT guy I worked with has a Galaxy S4 or 5, not sure which, with 4.4.2 and he is able to connect to the same networks I cannot.
It might be different for yours...
I spoke to the Sharp rep today and the case has been escalated since it is the "first ticket" about this issue.
He tried to walk me through manually adding the wireless network, by the + on the Wi-Fi settings page, and am still not able to connect.
Choosing either the WEP or the WPA/WPA2 PSK Security option removes the ability to add an identity to tell the network who I am, while 802.1x EAP has such option.
I think that is the issue.
I believe I was told that I would get more calls from Sharp about this; and I was given a case number and a direct callback number if I needed to call them (no, I won't share).
I too am having this issue and am keen on what Sharp has to say about it. While you have them on the phone do you mind asking them about whether or not we have a chance of seeing Lollipop on this device?
WhyPaul said:
I too am having this issue and am keen on what Sharp has to say about it. While you have them on the phone do you mind asking them about whether or not we have a chance of seeing Lollipop on this device?
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Sure. It appears to be something Sharp would have to push an update for from what I gather with my limited technical Android knowledge and I see no harm in asking. But I make no promises of an answer.
MrTriTanium said:
Sure. It appears to be something Sharp would have to push an update for from what I gather with my limited technical Android knowledge and I see no harm in asking. But I make no promises of an answer.
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Yeah I assume it'd have to be an OTA update etc etc I'm just hoping it's in their pipeline. I love this phone but I'm running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 and the lil Crystal is getting jealous...
WhyPaul said:
Yeah I assume it'd have to be an OTA update etc etc I'm just hoping it's in their pipeline. I love this phone but I'm running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 and the lil Crystal is getting jealous...
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It shouldn't be too had for Sharp to get Lollipop to work since KitKat is already very stock. Plus, if Sharp is truly wanting to get back in the smartphone game in the States, they'll probably fix problems with something as important as Wi-Fi and want the latest and greatest version of Android on their current U.S. flagship to make a, material , statement to users .
would someone post a phone number so we all can call and document this problem?
It's an 844 number. It's listed in the back of the white booklet that came with your crystal. I've called and documented several issues and have a case #. This WiFi issue being one of them.
How many Boost or Virgin phones aside from the Moto G have gotten any update attention at all?
Update
Called Sharp just now and I am told that a Manager of some sorts is looking at my case and looking for a fix for "[my] particular phone." From the rep.'s recap of the notes the previous rep. left, it appears that the issue with connecting to an Enterprise network was lost in the English-to-English translation and I am apparently having issues connecting to Wi-Fi in general. Trying to clarify that the issue is only with an Enterprise security connection made no effect.
I am curious as to what that Manager or whomever calls will say in the one to two business days I was told I would receive a call-back.
I would not be surprised if there is no official fix...
Update:
They pay better attention to you if you hit them up on Facebook. I expect a call tomorrow. Among my issues/questions was an update to Lollipop. So I'll keep everyone posted.
RealiZms said:
Update:
They pay better attention to you if you hit them up on Facebook. I expect a call tomorrow. Among my issues/questions was an update to Lollipop. So I'll keep everyone posted.
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They called less than an hour ago while I was in class. Like I expected, they assumed I am unable to connect to any Wi-Fi and had to clear that up. Now I'm told I'll get another call in another business day or two.
Forgot about asking about Lollipop. Having more people ask about it should get them in gear to bring it to the Crystal since that shows demand.
Update
Got a call back from Sharp and they ended up issuing an RMA.
It took 2 business days to get back to me to only have me try to reconnect with a slightly different security option and decide this is an issue that currently can't be fixed...
I already tried what they asked me to do and had the same error I've always had in doing so. Jeez...
Now I'm curious as to what they're going to do with my phone, or if they will fix it somehow.
I got a new phone from Sharp today and still have the same issue. There goes their "it's a hardware" problem.
I did ask about plans for a Lollipop upgrade in the future and got a stern "No." and that was it.
MrTriTanium said:
I got a new phone from Sharp today and still have the same issue. There goes their "it's a hardware" problem.
I did ask about plans for a Lollipop upgrade in the future and got a stern "No." and that was it.
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We came across an individual with the same device, and they entered a "Connecting...Saved" cycle. It took a couple of days, but we got the device connected to our campus network (Today Actually). We had to manually import the certificate, and select it during the wireless profile configuration. Normally this isn't necessary, and it was only necessary on Nokia Symbian phones and some BlackBerries. Does your university provide a method of manually downloading the wireless certificates - specifically an option for mobile devices (Android/BlackBerry/etc)?
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We came across an individual with the same device, and they entered a "Connecting...Saved" cycle. It took a couple of days, but we got the device connected to our campus network (Today Actually). We had to manually import the certificate, and select it during the wireless profile configuration. Normally this isn't necessary, and it was only necessary on Nokia Symbian phones and some BlackBerries. Does your university provide a method of manually downloading the wireless certificates - specifically an option for mobile devices (Android/BlackBerry/etc)?
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I just sent it out again to Sharp yesterday, so when I get it back I will ask my IT department if they will be able to do so.
I don't remember the reason why, but those who attend the same school as I have to manually configure the connection on a computer so certificates are not validated because the school servers don't send out many certificates.
I thought that might be the issue in the first place, but wasn't sure and thought to follow "proper procedures" to find a solution. Also not being able to enter a domain/ID while manually configuring a WPA/WPA2 PSK network on Android seems like a big oversight. I don't know if that's usual for that network but that possibly could have done the trick if it were an option.
MrTriTanium said:
I just sent it out again to Sharp yesterday, so when I get it back I will ask my IT department if they will be able to do so.
I don't remember the reason why, but those who attend the same school as I have to manually configure the connection on a computer so certificates are not validated because the school servers don't send out many certificates.
I thought that might be the issue in the first place, but wasn't sure and thought to follow "proper procedures" to find a solution. Also not being able to enter a domain/ID while manually configuring a WPA/WPA2 PSK network on Android seems like a big oversight. I don't know if that's usual for that network but that possibly could have done the trick if it were an option.
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Following "Proper Procedures" is the best place to start . I suspect the problem may be one of two things:
The certificate that your university utilizes is missing from the "Trusted Certificates" on your device
The certificate IS present in your "Trusted Certificates", but the Crystal Sharp's wpa_supplicant [apologize if wrong terminology] is not utilizing it for your Wi-Fi Profile.
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Cbjohns said:
Following "Proper Procedures" is the best place to start . I suspect the problem may be one of two things:
The certificate that your university utilizes is missing from the "Trusted Certificates" on your device
The certificate IS present in your "Trusted Certificates", but the Crystal Sharp's wpa_supplicant [apologize if wrong terminology] is not utilizing it for your Wi-Fi Profile.
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Your IT Department should be able to check which certificates are installed by going to "Settings -> Security -> Credential Storage -> Trusted Credentials". The option to install certificates will be down below. If you're able to manually install the right certificate and configure the wireless profile, you may see "Network may be monitored" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537794 Depending on what the certificate issue is, this may be something that can be permanently fixed by an update. *Note - the certificate we use is normally in the "Trusted Certificates" for Android devices, however, I'm unsure if it was present or not on our user's phone*
IT Guy at Said University Weighing In
Cbjohns said:
Following "Proper Procedures" is the best place to start . I suspect the problem may be one of two things:
The certificate that your university utilizes is missing from the "Trusted Certificates" on your device
The certificate IS present in your "Trusted Certificates", but the Crystal Sharp's wpa_supplicant [apologize if wrong terminology] is not utilizing it for your Wi-Fi Profile.
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Your IT Department should be able to check which certificates are installed by going to "Settings -> Security -> Credential Storage -> Trusted Credentials". The option to install certificates will be down below. If you're able to manually install the right certificate and configure the wireless profile, you may see "Network may be monitored" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537794 Depending on what the certificate issue is, this may be something that can be permanently fixed by an update. *Note - the certificate we use is normally in the "Trusted Certificates" for Android devices, however, I'm unsure if it was present or not on our user's phone*
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Hey CBJohns,
I've been working with TriTanium to resolve this issue from our end. Now, I'm *incredibly* rusty with certs and my knowledge when I knew about them was limited at best. Is there any way you would be willing to go over the process you went through? We don't currently have a method of downloading the cert that I know of, and all I have at this time is the .cer file. I don't have a signed key or anything like that which makes it difficult to create a .pfx.
We are using GoDaddy certs here on campus though, which leads me to questions why it doesn't work for this specific model of phone. I don't deal with cert signing or anything like that for us though, I'm Tier II Helpdesk support for all intents and purposes.
Thanks in advance!
As stated, for all who are interested/looking. The CURRENT Firestick 4k , direct from Amazon is still 100% Unlock/Rootable. I have had the first release, for a while and it finally burned out. So i took the plunge and ordered a brand new one. Obviously it goes without saying that there is only 1 generation of Firestick 4k, but there have been many reports of ppl not being able to run the script on them. Well i am here to confirm that straight OOB direct from Amazon you will get a stick that has no newer than 6.2.8.1 on it, and if you immediately crash the update from installing via the initial setup, you can enable dev options, usb debug, and run the OTA disable app to erase the downloaded update, and block the update channels that are normally contacted. (search forum for the TDUK Firestick Update Blocker). Then it is completely safe to connect back to your network to quickly log into your amazon account, and then disconnect again IMMEDIATELY once completed. (Failure to disconnect immediately will allow built in scripts to start the update download again in the background and then either once you let the device go to sleep, or if you accidentally reboot, it will auto install on the next load!) But if you completed the 1st part, then you're good to go on using the Kamakiri 2.0.1 scripts to Unlock/Twrp/Root without having to open your stick up. EZ - Peezy. 5 min and my stick is ready to re-customize like i want, but i get the new remote, and it seems a bit snappier... might be just me.
*Also, for those who dont have an OTG, or dont want to use one: simple process is to unplug the usb cable from the OEM adapter that comes with the stick, and plug that straight into your computer. 1st get your linux / fireiso environment ready, and have Kamakiri already on the "Waiting for Device" prompt... Then unplug from your adapter block, and plug right into your PC's USB port. Script should immediately take action, and you're still connected to your TV, so after running the 'fastboot-step.sh' , you will see TWRP on your TV. Now just run "adb shell" , in your same terminal window you have open. Then use TWRP cli to install Magisk, or flash your Rom /whatever you plan on doing. No need to swipe to allow modifications, cuz running "twrp install <whatever you want.zip>, it will automatically bypass that for you.*
hope this info helps somebody!
(PS. DO NOT choose to have Amazon link your device, in the ordering screen. It will offer this before checkout, and I'm almost positive that if you do this, then they open the package and setup your stick for you, thus almost guaranteed they will install the current updated firmware, which is said to block the pre-loader setup ... you want a virgin Firestick, untouched by their grubby little update installing hands! lol)
beatbreakee said:
But if you completed the 1st part, then you're good to go on using the Kamakiri 2.0.1 scripts to Unlock/Twrp/Root without having to open your stick up. EZ - Peezy.
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We are good to go on using kamakiri 2.x just out of the box...
Thats the safest way, no need to do anything infront of the unlock.
Sus_i said:
We are good to go on using kamakiri 2.x just out of the box...
Thats the safest way, no need to do anything infront of the unlock.
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true, thats what i was confirming, because several threads in this and the other android development forum had replies from ppl who claimed that the currently sold Firestick 4k was being shipped with a version of FireOS that was not exploitable via the Kamakiri method... basically claiming that the 2018 firestick 4k (as marketed by Amazon) and the CURRENT released 4k are somehow different, which in fact they are absolutely NOT. Theres not a single difference in the board layout or chipset.
Then theres ppl claiming that the updated builds after 6.2.8.1 have patched the access to the pre-loader. Well even if that was true, there would have to be some form of hardware modification that would have had to take place, or at the bare minimum Amazon would have had to trigger an E-fuse to be blown during your initial setup, that would make it unable to downgrade via the short method. BUT they did do exactly that with the Firestick 2nd Gens, that were re-released as some other model, i forget. But i know for a fact that this did happen because i have 3 of those which do not recognize the short, and will not advance past the very 1st file when connected using the NO SHORT method. They freeze immediately and lock up the process. So i was simply doing both a CONFIRMATION to those who stated that there were no UNLOCKABLE versions being sold by Amazon right now, because that is an outright lie... The ONLY firestick 4k being sold by Amazon IS the Unlockable version.... AFAIK the only BLOCKED version being sold is the 4k Max... There is not a "NOT UNLOCKABLE" Firestick 4k being sold anywhere. BUT i also was warning everyone that if you DO purchase a new 4k with the intent of unlocking it, that they need to be aware that Amazon is sneaking an option into the order where you can just check YES and it will come pre-connected to your prime account.
(Some lesser knowing individual might see this as a GOOD OPTION, because they think they wont have to worry about connecting it to the internet to set it up, and risk updating the firmware... but this is EXACTLY Amazon's intent; They WANT ppl to have them link the device before they ship it because that insures that the newest FW is installed onto it, before it leaves the warehouse, thus rendering any mitigations useless if indeed they have patched out the pre-loader exploit!)
I have a few friends in the Software dev team in Cali, and they have told me it is COMPLETELY an ongoing process to disable or nullify all possible methods to Unlock/Alter the bootloader of some current, and ALL future FireOS devices, because they have gotten some pretty nasty legal issues directed at them for allowing system mods that are enabling these 3rd party apps which provide access to Unreleased and In theatre Movies, as well as FREE access to many of the paid streaming platforms! Paramount, Peacock, Hulu, and HBO to name a few have all blamed Amazon for not doing something to prevent the installation of these apps and services which are cutting into their profit margin. Mainly because companies like ROKU disabled all access to their Custom channel lineup, and the ability to use secret codes to install 3rd party apps, on ALL their devices, new and old!.
So just was warning any "Novelty" unlockers, that they need to make sure to not allow Amazon to pre-configure their devices. Hell several features have been removed already in just a few builds... namely the Permissions manager. I hsve one 4k stick here now that is UNLOCKED but the owner has installed several OTA updates to keep it current, and there is literally NO PERMISSIONS manager AT ALL, so several 3rd party apps wont even load. It also has no way to install the Settings V2, so theres, 1. No permission mgr, AND 2. No Accessibility options to grant access for some apps which request it.
Just as a FYI, I also unlocked my new sheldonp (I ordered it on Prime Day) without any problem. Just make sure to run the unlock exploit before powering on the device.
sooo if I got my 4k max today, I should not power it on, and wait for unlock release, right?
ForbEx said:
sooo if I got my 4k max today, I should not power it on, and wait for unlock release, right?
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Hmm let me get straight. Tomorrow I will get my 4k (non max) and I'm from Europe. Can't I power it on to see the firmware version? I bought it to escape from sony tv bloatware. Can't be still in the matrix please I'm looking into removing bloatware, root or no root as required to get the job done. I will use it only with kodi for local content. That's it.
ycodryn said:
Hmm let me get straight. Tomorrow I will get my 4k (non max) and I'm from Europe. Can't I power it on to see the firmware version?
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ycodryn said:
I bought it to escape from sony tv bloatware. Can't be still in the matrix please I'm looking into removing bloatware, root or no root as required to get the job done. I will use it only with kodi for local content. That's it.
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The best is if you try the unlock first, kamakiri 2.1 from this thread:
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 4K (mantis)
NOTE: There have been multiple reports of devices with serial numbers containing VM190 or higher being shipped with DL-Mode disabled in BROM. These devices cannot be unlocked using kamakiri. These devices do not show up at all on USB when...
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Note: The 'shorting' isn't necessary anymore... and it's very easy to do it now, you can see the updated procedere (or lets say guide) in this threads OP:
[UNLOCK][ROOT][TWRP][UNBRICK] Fire TV Stick 3 and Fire TV Stick Lite (sheldon/p)
Read this whole guide before starting. This is for the 3rd gen Fire TV Stick (sheldonp) and Fire TV Stick Lite (sheldon). NOTE: FireOS < 7.2.7.3 required NOTE: This process does not require you to open your device. What you need: A Linux...
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Thank you for your time. I will read the threads and comeback with some info.
Ok stick arrived, is with VM10137. Now is rooted and working. Thanks again.
I've got mine from Blackfriday sales in Europe. Germany to be exact.
Never turned it on once. Did not connect to internet.
I always get "RuntimeError: ERROR: Serial protocol mismatch, expected 0000 got 2001"
on executing bootrom-step.sh
Boot-Fastboot.sh ran just fine saying "preloader ready, sending FACTACT"
I'm not sure if that means patched.
yes i can also confirm. i bought one a month ago and unlocked it out of the box no prob. I got excited so ordered a second and that one (same process) is giving me the 0000 got 2001 error also.
beatbreakee said:
and if you immediately crash the update from installing via the initial setup
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Can anyone please point me to instructions on how to do this?
beatbreakee said:
because they have gotten some pretty nasty legal issues directed at them for allowing system mods that are enabling these 3rd party apps
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IMHO, these Amazon claims do not hold water. I can buy a Dell computer that can do all those "nasty" things with apps, and Dell will not get into legal issues.
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Can anyone please point me to instructions on how to do this?
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As soon as you connect to WiFi during setup you will see checking for updates. Hold 'back'+'menu' on the remote for 5sec as soon as you see this screen. It will open an accessibility screen, just tap 'back' on the remote, and the update step is skipped.
You can either throttle your internet connection to give you more time on the checking for updates screen, or just unplug your router when you see that screen.
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Alternatively, when you are setting up WiFi (entering your password), tap on Advanced on the onscreen keyboard, enter Ighor's DNS address for DNS1 + DNS2, and the stick will be blocked from downloading updates right away. Then use back+menu to skip the check for updates screen.
Is "Ighors DNS address for DNS1 + DNS2" the exact command, or should I put in the actual IPs for the DNS servers? If I am to enter IPs is the + necessary?
Did you mean to type "ignore" or is "lghors" what I really should type?
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Is "Ighors DNS address for DNS1 + DNS2" the exact command, or should I put in the actual IPs for the DNS servers? If I am to enter IPs is the + necessary?
Did you mean to type "ignore" or is "lghors" what I really should type?
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Yes Ighor, not ignore . Click on that link, and it has step by step information how how to fill out the advanced WiFi settings.
When you get to the option to enter the DNS, you need to enter the DNS IP address corresponding to one of Ighor's DNS servers (choose the one that corresponds to your geographical region).
Ighor's DNS servers block the addresses that serve Amazon's OTA updates. By using them in your advanced WiFi settings, you are blocking your FireTV from connecting to them.
Thank you. I am new to the forum and did not catch that the blue writing was a link. I clicked it this time.
do i need to solder or anything to root this? tired in the past but failed. would love to root the 4k i have. its sitting on an OLD 6.x.x.x update. the custom launcher still boots by default without issue
this.guy.lol said:
do i need to solder or anything to root this?
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I am new here. That being said, what I have read here, and in another thread, indicated the disassembly and shorting are no longer needed. See message #2 of this thread.