Hello everyone!
After many complications (not correct wiring, canBus), I was able to install this Android unit, the Chinese are not very helpful! (I don't understand why the Escape model, even though it's a common model doesn't appear in the CanBus list, I chose the Kuga model instead, but..
Here are my problems:
- the steering wheel controls regarding telephony, voice commands, home, it is impossible to make them work, despite trying to get them recognized.
- (and now I don't know why the forward and backward controls have no effect when listening to a piece of music, from the steering wheel or the controls of the Chinese console, while it worked some time ago!) When pressing one of these keys, the same piece of music is played again! (on the other hand with the radio stations, it works).
- the central locking control on the chinese console does not respond as well!
** Who has a 2013 Ford Escape please!? **
The Chinese answered me as if customers with this same model would have managed to make everything work! that's what they tell me. To be verified!
thanks
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I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
reckert said:
I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
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Search the forum. This has been mentioned several times. Google voice currently doesn't work. Joying is working on it.
A lot of us have questions and remarks on the UI, on a lot of aspects, and on the functionality. Most/some of us are already pushing Joying 2 years for improvements. Some improvements and bug fixes came, others not.
Please help pushing by directly mailing to Joying ([email protected]) about your comments and questions, but don't think you're the first.
You don't mention your issues with the Radio, but if it is about layout: see here.
Those radio mods are made for the Sofia units, but work just as well on your type of PX5. I'm using one of them (and the PX5 models ending on P2 or P4 can use the exact same software)
surfer63 said:
Search the forum. This has been mentioned several times. Google voice currently doesn't work. Joying is working on it.
A lot of us have questions and remarks on the UI, on a lot of aspects, and on the functionality. Most/some of us are already pushing Joying 2 years for improvements. Some improvements and bug fixes came, others not.
Please help pushing by directly mailing to Joying ([email protected]) about your comments and questions, but don't think you're the first.
You don't mention your issues with the Radio, but if it is about layout: see here.
Those radio mods are made for the Sofia units, but work just as well on your type of PX5. I'm using one of them (and the PX5 models ending on P2 or P4 can use the exact same software)
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Thanks for responding, I did find a rom on their site (have the link on my home machine) , not sure it is for these devices, just says for 2gb/4gb 16gb/32gb Octacore, but from the looks of it, it is an AOSP build.
After trying an older 'personal assistant' app AVX Extreme, I found out the google speech to text module is missing. - this thread (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/Gu8c8JLMo6w) shows that it is not part of AOSP, so if we can figure out how to get the speech to text module installed, I think it will work.
As for the Radio, it is a layout thing, it is not a bad layout, but I feel it could be better somehow. I'd like to find a launcher that supports the OBD-II input for speed/etc, a nice clock, radio/volume control, and navigation
I see you also have a thread on the 8.0 build so I will follow up on there.
reckert said:
Thanks for responding, I did find a rom on their site (have the link on my home machine) , not sure it is for these devices, just says for 2gb/4gb 16gb/32gb Octacore, but from the looks of it, it is an AOSP build.
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You have a FYT hardware model (models ending on P2 or P4). The firmware you see there is for the QD models which are completely different and completely incompatible with regard to the underlying hardware, drivers, etc.
Hello
i have received the P2 unit and Google voice not working
Some news from Joying about this feature?
fabien_m2002 said:
Hello
i have received the P2 unit and Google voice not working
Some news from Joying about this feature?
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Update to the latest firmware. That solves the google voice issue.
reckert said:
I just installed a joying JY-UO138P4 (https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-l...ouble-din-car-audio-system-with-4gb-32gb.html ) in a 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix.
Most things work - I am still working out the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess and Joying - I think this is an issue with Metra identifying the car correctly, I had a similar problem with an older metra unit on a Sony receiver.
One thing that doesn't work is accessing google voice services when I click on the microphone, I get a message 'Cannot reach google at the moment'. I am connected via wifi and can open the Chrome browser and get to google. All other internet access I tested works fine as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions on this?
p.s. I'll probably have other questions on improving the UI - would like a better blue tooth phone client, and something better with the radio.
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Dit you managed to get the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess to work on your Joying? I also need a canbus decoder for the joying i'm planning to buy. Can you recommend the Metra Axxess, and is it difficult to connect the wiring?
Tumke32 said:
Dit you managed to get the steering wheel control wiring with Metra Axxess to work on your Joying? I also need a canbus decoder for the joying i'm planning to buy. Can you recommend the Metra Axxess, and is it difficult to connect the wiring?
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Yes- I got it to work, though don't ask how I had multiple back and forths with Metra on it- for some reason the Axxess could not properly detect my car, metro told me the instructions printed and on the pdf could be wrong and I should try ""VOL UP, SEEK UP, BAND, MUTE, VOL UP"" - but that didn't work. At one point I got frustrated working on the car, and reset the Axxess for the 20th+ time, and didn't notice the steering wheel was turned, so i hit the buttons 'upside down' - I am not sure the combination, but once that happened everything is working good.
In my car, two of the buttons overlap - so I have 6 buttons I can assign instead of 8, but the important one (Seek/Volume/Mute) are mapped so I am happy.
I am not using CANBUS on my car, so I can't speak to that, though I am trying to find out if there is any information anywhere on connecting to the build in HUD in my car.
Hi!
I'm new here and am wondering if someone could help me out.
I got an Android headunit through a local workshop. I thought it'd be an upgrade, and in some respects it is, but it's been giving me endless problems. I've also eventually come to the realisation that the mechanic is pretty clueless about troubleshooting software issues (I suppose he's more of an installer) so I'm pretty much on my own here. He's talking to his supplier but has been established these Chinese suppliers aren't usually helpful.
There are 2 things which I can't figure out:
1. On day 1, the bluetooth worked. I could pair my iPhone with the headunit through the unit's stock "bluetooth/dialer" app. But the unit wouldn't power back on after it was installed the first time. Mechanic told me the the unit came shipped with a wire switched around and once he corrected that problem, the headunit has been working pretty reliably. Bluetooth stopped working after this, however. I've done a factory reset, tried the RST button upfront but to no avail.
I've go to settings and searched for "bluetooth" (yes, noted that it's hidden on these units!) and made sure it's switched on. Occasionally, I see my phone's name appear on the "settings" page, but I can't pair it with the unit. It remains stuck on "pairing." It still searches endlessly in the bluetooth/dialer app.
Is there anything else I should look into?
2. Can the OS and firmware be upgraded on my unit? I unfortunately, have no idea what brand/model the headunit is. My car's pretty rare in my country (Renault Clio 2015) and the headunits on Aliexpress were for a lower-end version with different connectors. The workshop got a unit for my model through its Chinese contacts, but it came in a non-descript box. Here's the info I've gotten from the Settings screen:
Processor type: QuadCore-T3
Android Version: 7.1.1
MCU version: T5.3.21-63-9B1-C06101-180904
System version: V8.3.2_20180919.193359_ZH5-N
I'll be going through the forum to learn as much about Android headunits but would appreciate any help in the mean time.
Thanks!
Spent some time looking around the forums. Thought I'd log what I've discovered for others who may be searching for similar info.
To recap, I have an Android head unit with no branding. Initially, all I had was the info from the "about device" screen, which provided a bunch of numbers.
I got more information by downloading a hardware info app. There are a few but they generally work the same by providing you with more hardware info (ie. clues).
Discovered I have an Allwinner T3 P3 system. I'm sure I'm lumping several things together but it was enough info to search the forum with.
Discovered this wonderful thread which is generally about Android units based on the above chipset.
Within that thread I came across this one which was extremely helpful. It details how there are 3 types of Allwinner T3 P3 systems which are all different as far as firmware is concerned. Links to their respective firmware are provided, as well as some info on how to reset/recover the system. Glad I found this as I have a better idea how these things work, and more importantly, it cautions against what NOT to do (and risk bricking your headunit).
The the post also links a Russian site that has even more info on my unit from the Allwinner T3 P3 family. Will explore this next (thanks Google translate!).
Will also try to do a factory recover to see if I can fix the bluetooth problem. It worked on Day 1 so at the very least I know the hardware works. That said, who knows if the hardware was fried when the wires were switched around.
Solved the bluetooth problem. Answer was in the Russian thread posted above!
Thank you, just got a unit with same MCU version and your post has helped me identify this thing!
Hi Ultimax,
I have a small question. I have the same car as you ( a 2015 clio 4) and I'm wondering about the Canbus configuration to use to get the steering wheel boutons to work? Looked everywhere and nothing on this topic so I'm really waiting for your directions..
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Hi Ultimax,
I have a small question. I have the same car as you ( a 2015 clio 4) and I'm wondering about the Canbus configuration to use to get the steering wheel boutons to work? Looked everywhere and nothing on this topic so I'm really waiting for your directions..
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Hey!
Glad to help!
What headunit comes installed in your Clio 4? Is it a R-Link TomTom unit (without the USB port next to the screen) or the more basic MediaNav (with the USB port next to the screen)?
If it's the MediaNav headunit, you're in luck. There are quite a few aftermarket Android headunits which are supposedly plug and play, including steering wheel buttons. At least that's what's claimed. I know Pioneer Europe has a headunit which is a 1 for 1 replacement for the stock unit. It even comes with a new plastic front so it fits perfectly and a new wiring harness.
https://www.pioneer-car.eu/eur/products/sph-evo62dab-clio
If it's the R-Link TomTom unit, then I'm afraid you're out of luck. This is the version of Clio 4 I have unfortunately. I've searched high and low on the internet for a suitable wiring harness+CANBUS which would allow me to use the factory steering wheel buttons but couldn't find any. The closest I came was one I got from China through a local installer, but only the volume and channel up/down buttons worked. The Android headunit itself which came with the CANBUS was sh!t and I was tempted to go back to the factory unit. Only thing keeping me from doing so was I'd already spent too much time and money getting it to work somewhat.
However, I recently installed a new Pioneer headunit. My local installer managed to replace the Android unit with it. He couldn't get the steering buttons to work though. He said he'd have to custom program one which would be pretty costly. So, I've given up on using the factory steering wheel buttons.
A cheap workaround is to use an aftermarket steering wheel control kit. You attach new controls to your steering wheel (either clipped, glued or recessed into new holes drilled into your steering wheel). The controls are powered by a long-life battery. The control unit is paired wirelessly with a receiver which you connect to the your headunit via the KEY1/KEY2 (Pioneer calls them Input 1 and 2), ground and ACC wires. Most headunits have these wires.
This is the option I'm going for. My kit hasn't arrived yet but I'm optimistic it'll work.
FYI, this is the one I bought:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000584816400.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.317a4c4dfTx6k3
There are other designs too. Just search the site for "universal steering wheel control radio"
Hope this helps!
Hi everyone, I hope to be writing in the appropriate section.
I bought an 8227L android car radio:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_8.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_6.jpg
And I have a Toyota Yaris II series:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_7.jpg
This morning I successfully mounted the 8227L stereo in my car
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_5.jpg
and everything works fine except the steering wheel controls.
The old original car radio (where steering wheel controls worked) was so connected:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg
And when mounting the new autoradio 8227L, I just inserted the cables in the appropriate adapters.
The fact is that as soon as I enter the steering wheel configuration menu, I press START and select a command to associate with a physical steering wheel button, I get an error:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_3.jpg
even trying to reboot:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_2.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_1.jpg
I still get the same error.
Can u help me in some way? Thank u all in advance!
As a first step, I would put a voltmeter onto the sense wires while pressing each of steering wheel buttons- to confirm that different voltages are available for the head unit to learn
This wil prove or otherwise that the wiring is in order.
Hi Pxdev,
First of all thank you very much for your attention.
At the moment I do not have the possibility to use a voltmeter, however I am sure that the steering wheel controls work (tested up to a few hours before the installation of the new radio) and also the installation of the new radio has simply consisted in disconnecting the 3 connectors ( http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg the blue and the two whites) visible in the picture and insert them in the appropriate adapters of the new car radio and insert a single connector in the special housing and everything worked, except, of course, for the steering wheel controls. Is there anything else I could try to do? Many thanks in advance.
Hi,
Have you bought it with the Canbus and cables for your car? I have the exact same unit and the steering wheel works well.
I get the same error , found a video saying ground one wire to radio ground and any one key wire ground radio but doesn't work. If anybody has any solution or troubleshoot guide please let me know .
Checked voltage , voltage from headunit around 3.5v , checked resisitance from each key shows different value for each key. Now what to do?
Did you find a solution to your problem as I'm having the same problem with mine. Same head unit with a Raise can bus installed. The steering wheel controls worked fine when I first bought the car but I decided to delete some of the unused apps and since then the steering wheel controls don't work. I can't even remember the name of the app I deleted. Any help would be grateful.
Hello all,
I'm having trouble finding a solution to this, not sure if this is where to ask but its worth a shot. I have an Intel Airmont Joying head unit, the one with physical buttons. Its running android 8.1 I believe. I use apple carplay through Zlink. I also use joyings universal steering wheel controls add-on since I dont have built in ones (I cant post links yet but google those exact words to find it, its a circle lookin thing) . I'd like to be able to map it to Zlinks controls (siri, left, right,home, etc), but I'm unable to. Under Joyings built in steering wheel controls mapper I can map it to universal play/pause etc for the head unit itself, but when I enter the Zlink control learning they dont work. Any ideas what to do? Apologies if that was confusing, I can clarify if needed. Thanks!
Hello everyone!
After many complications (not correct wiring, canBus), I was able to install this Android unit, the Chinese are not very helpful! (I don't understand why the Escape model, even though it's a common model doesn't appear in the CanBus list, I chose the Kuga model instead, but..
Here are my problems:
- the steering wheel controls regarding telephony, voice commands, home, it is impossible to make them work, despite trying to get them recognized.
- (and now I don't know why the forward and backward controls have no effect when listening to a piece of music, from the steering wheel or the controls of the Chinese console, while it worked some time ago!) When pressing one of these keys, the same piece of music is played again! (on the other hand with the radio stations, it works).
- the central locking control on the chinese console does not respond as well!
** Who has a 2013 Ford Escape please!? **
The Chinese answered me as if customers with this same model would have managed to make everything work! that's what they tell me. To be verified!
thanks