Hi!
I'm new here and am wondering if someone could help me out.
I got an Android headunit through a local workshop. I thought it'd be an upgrade, and in some respects it is, but it's been giving me endless problems. I've also eventually come to the realisation that the mechanic is pretty clueless about troubleshooting software issues (I suppose he's more of an installer) so I'm pretty much on my own here. He's talking to his supplier but has been established these Chinese suppliers aren't usually helpful.
There are 2 things which I can't figure out:
1. On day 1, the bluetooth worked. I could pair my iPhone with the headunit through the unit's stock "bluetooth/dialer" app. But the unit wouldn't power back on after it was installed the first time. Mechanic told me the the unit came shipped with a wire switched around and once he corrected that problem, the headunit has been working pretty reliably. Bluetooth stopped working after this, however. I've done a factory reset, tried the RST button upfront but to no avail.
I've go to settings and searched for "bluetooth" (yes, noted that it's hidden on these units!) and made sure it's switched on. Occasionally, I see my phone's name appear on the "settings" page, but I can't pair it with the unit. It remains stuck on "pairing." It still searches endlessly in the bluetooth/dialer app.
Is there anything else I should look into?
2. Can the OS and firmware be upgraded on my unit? I unfortunately, have no idea what brand/model the headunit is. My car's pretty rare in my country (Renault Clio 2015) and the headunits on Aliexpress were for a lower-end version with different connectors. The workshop got a unit for my model through its Chinese contacts, but it came in a non-descript box. Here's the info I've gotten from the Settings screen:
Processor type: QuadCore-T3
Android Version: 7.1.1
MCU version: T5.3.21-63-9B1-C06101-180904
System version: V8.3.2_20180919.193359_ZH5-N
I'll be going through the forum to learn as much about Android headunits but would appreciate any help in the mean time.
Thanks!
Spent some time looking around the forums. Thought I'd log what I've discovered for others who may be searching for similar info.
To recap, I have an Android head unit with no branding. Initially, all I had was the info from the "about device" screen, which provided a bunch of numbers.
I got more information by downloading a hardware info app. There are a few but they generally work the same by providing you with more hardware info (ie. clues).
Discovered I have an Allwinner T3 P3 system. I'm sure I'm lumping several things together but it was enough info to search the forum with.
Discovered this wonderful thread which is generally about Android units based on the above chipset.
Within that thread I came across this one which was extremely helpful. It details how there are 3 types of Allwinner T3 P3 systems which are all different as far as firmware is concerned. Links to their respective firmware are provided, as well as some info on how to reset/recover the system. Glad I found this as I have a better idea how these things work, and more importantly, it cautions against what NOT to do (and risk bricking your headunit).
The the post also links a Russian site that has even more info on my unit from the Allwinner T3 P3 family. Will explore this next (thanks Google translate!).
Will also try to do a factory recover to see if I can fix the bluetooth problem. It worked on Day 1 so at the very least I know the hardware works. That said, who knows if the hardware was fried when the wires were switched around.
Solved the bluetooth problem. Answer was in the Russian thread posted above!
Thank you, just got a unit with same MCU version and your post has helped me identify this thing!
Hi Ultimax,
I have a small question. I have the same car as you ( a 2015 clio 4) and I'm wondering about the Canbus configuration to use to get the steering wheel boutons to work? Looked everywhere and nothing on this topic so I'm really waiting for your directions..
jmouin said:
Hi Ultimax,
I have a small question. I have the same car as you ( a 2015 clio 4) and I'm wondering about the Canbus configuration to use to get the steering wheel boutons to work? Looked everywhere and nothing on this topic so I'm really waiting for your directions..
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Hey!
Glad to help!
What headunit comes installed in your Clio 4? Is it a R-Link TomTom unit (without the USB port next to the screen) or the more basic MediaNav (with the USB port next to the screen)?
If it's the MediaNav headunit, you're in luck. There are quite a few aftermarket Android headunits which are supposedly plug and play, including steering wheel buttons. At least that's what's claimed. I know Pioneer Europe has a headunit which is a 1 for 1 replacement for the stock unit. It even comes with a new plastic front so it fits perfectly and a new wiring harness.
https://www.pioneer-car.eu/eur/products/sph-evo62dab-clio
If it's the R-Link TomTom unit, then I'm afraid you're out of luck. This is the version of Clio 4 I have unfortunately. I've searched high and low on the internet for a suitable wiring harness+CANBUS which would allow me to use the factory steering wheel buttons but couldn't find any. The closest I came was one I got from China through a local installer, but only the volume and channel up/down buttons worked. The Android headunit itself which came with the CANBUS was sh!t and I was tempted to go back to the factory unit. Only thing keeping me from doing so was I'd already spent too much time and money getting it to work somewhat.
However, I recently installed a new Pioneer headunit. My local installer managed to replace the Android unit with it. He couldn't get the steering buttons to work though. He said he'd have to custom program one which would be pretty costly. So, I've given up on using the factory steering wheel buttons.
A cheap workaround is to use an aftermarket steering wheel control kit. You attach new controls to your steering wheel (either clipped, glued or recessed into new holes drilled into your steering wheel). The controls are powered by a long-life battery. The control unit is paired wirelessly with a receiver which you connect to the your headunit via the KEY1/KEY2 (Pioneer calls them Input 1 and 2), ground and ACC wires. Most headunits have these wires.
This is the option I'm going for. My kit hasn't arrived yet but I'm optimistic it'll work.
FYI, this is the one I bought:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000584816400.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.317a4c4dfTx6k3
There are other designs too. Just search the site for "universal steering wheel control radio"
Hope this helps!
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
Ducvfr said:
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
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I have the same issue. When i plug the usb with mpuupdate.bin in usb slot nothing happens.
Did you use sdcard? try
d1egulopes said:
Did you use sdcard? try
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Of cource I did, no difference.
This is really annoying I am having the same problem. There must be a way to force install mcu like the firmware. Maybe the file needs a different name or header. I don't know. Hope someone has a suggestion.
similar issue here ..
and yes I hit some search button..
having the 10.25,
installed and first it did work. (with ccc head unit)
accidentally hit a update wile first time opening file explorer, that one changed my fortune.
I think I am now in cic or such...
cant get into my native system.
idrive button does not take enter, but idrive can be used to go back to android (holding it for 5 sec)
so I stuck in nowhere (cant even change audio/aux)
so how can I get it back to ccc ?
am guess I need a mcu file, where can I get one ?
cheers
and thanks form Germany
Vollthrottle
Vollthrottle said:
similar issue here ..
and yes I hit some search button..
having the 10.25,
installed and first it did work. (with ccc head unit)
accidentally hit a update wile first time opening file explorer, that one changed my fortune.
I think I am now in cic or such...
cant get into my native system.
idrive button does not take enter, but idrive can be used to go back to android (holding it for 5 sec)
so I stuck in nowhere (cant even change audio/aux)
so how can I get it back to ccc ?
am guess I need a mcu file, where can I get one ?
cheers
and thanks form Germany
Vollthrottle
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Now I got everything.
new os img
new mcu update . bin
no fix
got second unit all frehs and new
no change. can bus commands from ifdrive controller do not work.
there have been some posts reporting the same issue (idrive controller hangs) but there is no solution posted.
my guess > something wrong inside mcu settings.
Hello,
Same issue here (but with 10.25" PX6 android 8.1 CCC idrive).
- idrive works on android side.
- idrive does not work on original OEM screen (BMW menu).
The seller asked me to update mcu twice, nothing has changed (did not validate the reception of my order until tested, so no payment from Aliexpress to seller until it works ...).
I did not tried to full update (did not find PX6.img file on the net, and from what people are reporting, it does not change a thing).
One thing I have noticed :
- when on android idrive works
- then when switch to BMW menu (click on "Car Info"), if I try actions, nothing happens.
- BUT, when I go back to android (press menu 3secs), the android cursor has moved !
This means that idrive actions are NOT forwarded to CCC controller, AND interpreted inside android !
It seems so stupid, but this little bug ruins the possibility to use this screen at all : if we cannot go on the BMW menu to set the correct outputs and shortcut, it is totally useless.
Vollthrottle said:
Now I got everything.
new os img
new mcu update . bin
no fix
got second unit all frehs and new
no change. can bus commands from ifdrive controller do not work.
there have been some posts reporting the same issue (idrive controller hangs) but there is no solution posted.
my guess > something wrong inside mcu settings.
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BMW 10.25" HU Android 7.1 px3 MCU update issue
yes very annoying.
maybe time to hang our post one line up and make it a new thread!?
base info:
android 8.1
image: px6
mcu / . 023042bGS-ccc-hw8-190401 (B1280_170325)
I have exactly the same issue. Idrive controller works for Android menu but when entering car info the idrive controller doesn't work. When I connect my original CCC screen and the android together entering car info the idrive controller works on the old idrive system. Changing the CCC screen cable to route to the android screen again still gives me the non working idrive controller. Seems there is something wrong with either the CCC screen cable that came with the unit or the firmware. Did someone already got a fix? It is really annoying.
Thanks
same here
Hello,
Same here for me, 2005 e87 CCC car with idrive, Android 8.1 Px6 unit : idrive moves not working on BMW OEM menu when using new screen.
To be more precise : the moves / events made on the idrive when in original BMW menu does not do anything on the original interface, BUT, are interpreted on the android side!
The Mcu firmware does not seem to redirect correctly the CAN bus idrive knob messages to the CCC controller.
If someone has some infos on the Mcu source code used... It would help...
At least I know we are not alone and this seems to be CCC with 8.1 related...
Regards all
ulysse31_revient said:
Hello,
Same here for me, 2005 e87 CCC car with idrive, Android 8.1 Px6 unit : idrive moves not working on BMW OEM menu when using new screen.
To be more precise : the moves / events made on the idrive when in original BMW menu does not do anything on the original interface, BUT, are interpreted on the android side!
The Mcu firmware does not seem to redirect correctly the CAN bus idrive knob messages to the CCC controller.
If someone has some infos on the Mcu source code used... It would help...
At least I know we are not alone and this seems to be CCC with 8.1 related...
Regards all
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I am not sure whether it has to do with the MCU.. When i connect the android unit but connect the lvds cable from the radio unit to the original screen switching to car info on the android unit gives me the ability to control the original ccc screen with the idrive button. It seems like the MCU works correct than right? One thing i have noticed is that the original lvds cable (that plugs in to the radio unit and to the screen) has a metal harness (i think for the ground) . The cable that i got with the android unit doesn't have a metal harness but on the HU android side the connector seems to have a ground connector, could it just be that the cable is not correct? The ground of the radio unit should be connected to the metal side on the android HU cable? Do you have the same cable?
Here is a video where can see how the two screens together do work: (search on youtube for: "Idrive not working in android 10.25 car info" my username is pietklazen100) (sorry as a new member i am not allowed to post links yet)
The automatic aux switching works when entering video on the android HU and entering car info also lets me control the unit. The only thing that is different in this setup is the lvds cable...
ErikE87 said:
I have exactly the same issue. Idrive controller works for Android menu but when entering car info the idrive controller doesn't work. When I connect my original CCC screen and the android together entering car info the idrive controller works on the old idrive system. Changing the CCC screen cable to route to the android screen again still gives me the non working idrive controller. Seems there is something wrong with either the CCC screen cable that came with the unit or the firmware. Did someone already got a fix? It is really annoying.
Thanks
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Exactly the same here.
I think this issue is clearly software-related.
Because if I press the button of the iDrive (in the original menu) nothing happens.
BUT when I push it to the sides (left, right, top, bottom) for longer, the 4 menus are changing.
But I cannot control anything there.
WTF is going on?
Where can I change to bloody config?
I can't listen to FM or anything else.
Factory setup code?
bthight said:
WTF is going on?
Where can I change to bloody config?
I can't listen to FM or anything else.
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There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
1314
sanderbaks said:
There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
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code is 1314
Code
seaman5705 said:
code is 1314
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That code is not correct for me. Thanks for the feed back!
Any other codes are appreciated!
Ducvfr said:
Hello,
These units are available for E83, E84, F25, F30 and other BMW models, share the same hardware and only base, connectors, harnesses and MCU versions change according to specific model. They are probably produced from one factory but u will them around with brands like: MEKEDE, NAVIFFLY, DASAITA, UGODE, AVIN etc. So there are CCC, CIC, and NBT MCU versions. Mine is for E83 X3 and came with a CIC version. Aliexpress sellers support is zero... Anyway I need desperately to update MCU and I cannot through normal menu way. It just recognises the update file, suppose to start procedure and then u wait forever and nothing happens. It is a common issue lately since it is being discussed many times at f30bimmerpost forum. Can some expert guy pls suggest a different procedure like renaming the file and force update it somehow during booting maybe??
the file is in an mcuupdate.bin form.
Thanks a lot!
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Hello Ducvfr,
The parking sensor is working for you in rear camera screen ? I means you can see the PDC radar in the right hand side.
Did you try Picture in Picture function ? For exemple, can you see youtube on rear camera view ?
sanderbaks said:
That code is not correct for me. Thanks for the feed back!
Any other codes are appreciated!
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Did you find out what the code is?
Should be 1314
sanderbaks said:
Factory setup code?
There is a factory settings menu item. However i dont know the code to enter it
This is where you change the idrive your car has.
I am looking for the code also. Would be happy with suggestions!!
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code is 1314 if you still need
Hi there. I searched (at least I tried for several hours without luck) this forum and the internet in general.
I have bought a ES8113M from Erisin (https://erisin.de/products/-655) with Android 10 preinstalled and a RN-SS-01 canbus decoder. The issue is that the steering wheel controller is not working. Does anyone have managed to connect the canbus of their Megane to the Android head unit?
Please tell me if you need more info. I am happy for every litte hint on PIN Layouts, factory setting, firmware upgrades or anything else.
Thanks in advance
What did seller suggest when contacted for support?
Is this an FYT based unit?
Thanks @marchnz for your quick reply and thereby help .
Support is poor. I asked two times over two different channels but did not get any answer yet.
Sorry to ask, I am new to Android head units. What do you mean FYT unit? Do you mean the MicroControlerUnit (MCU)-type? Then it's a S32F0 or LEIMA?
It says S32F0_LEIMA-W 20201020-17:05 HD1_7708_D_FF_C8
Oh I see you may ask because I posted to FYT Android head units. If this was wrong sorry and maybe a moderator will provide help and move to the appropriate sub forum (thanks).
@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
neobond said:
@Badger50 thanks for moving this thread to the right forum. I hope someone still reads older (like in days ;-) threads and is able to help and or ask questions for me to better understand and hopefully solve my issue....
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Is there a possibility to connect the shown connector directly to the radio?
Did you get the right cable tree from the seller? Normally the CAN adapter is connected in between the car-cable tree and the radio.
Is this the right CAN adapter for this radio, provided by the radio seller?
Thank you @rigattoni for your reply. And yes, the Canbus-Decoder ist connected to the Megane on the one side (for power and canbus signal) and the radio (see pinout picture from erisin). I would confirm this as you say it's "normally". I think and hope I have the right harness. At least the QR code says for MEGANE 2 and the website / the seller state it is especially designed and adapted for the Megane 2 (https://erisin.de/products/erisin-e...wifi-4g-dvd-obd-canbus-swc-für-renault-megane).
I did some more digging and analising today. Here are the colors of the ISO-Adapter with the according functions as far as I could find out on the internet (First screenshot). I also compared the cables from the harness and the radio to the canbus adapter (second screenshot). And finally I checked the connections to the radio and the link from there to the canbus adapter again (third screenshot).
It would be nice if someone could confirm some functions and if especially the canbus connections from the harness are the same with your knowledge (at best from another Renault Megane CC2 driver ).
Also I am curious if someone can shre more intel on the canbus cables of a Megane convertible 2.
What if the wiring is fine. I measured 5V between RN-SS-01 PIN3 / PIN4 and GND. To me that makes sense for a canbus information channel... Lots of messages on high...
Can someone provide the correct parameters for the Android head unit? I did a factory reset, an android reset and a SD0 card wipe. Unfortunately the car settings and factory settings remain as I did set them during testing.
For the canbus type (in the factory settings) I think it was 0x00 OFF when I first installed it. I cannot select it from the "select your model" screen (see above, RN-SS-01 missing). But I can set it to 0x85 RENAULT MEGANE SP...
Any intel on what canbus type should work? And how can I test it? In the car settings there is a menu entry steering wheel settings... I did reset it during testing and now even if I press a button on the steering wheel control, nothing happens. I would assume it should pop up a message on which button recognized and ask for what to map it to...
Sorry I am a bloody n00b here....
Sorry for starting this thread, but I would like to finish it with an easy statement: My car hasn't CANBUS (because manufactured >>before 2005<<). So I needed to go with an analogue adapter.
After a very friendly and productive phone call with a German vendor I bought this one here:
https://www.niq.de/lenkradfernbedie...---Scenic---Trafic-Bj--Ab-2000-fuer-auna.html.
From there on very easy to install. Connect the ISO cables from the car to the ISO adapter from NIQ and the departing cables to the ISO connector from the ERISIN head unit. Additionally and to get the steering wheel control working I had to connect SWC1, SWC2 and GND from the NIQ-adapter to the head unit.
Thanks for everyone reading and helping. CASE_SOLVED
Hello, I ordered multimedia for megane 2 ( https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...020888279!sea!BG!0&curPageLogUid=eazK1RuTtlpe) but the can-bus decoder doesn't work, I ordered another one from another dealer but the coupler is smaller, is it possible to connect the wires to the new one. The new one is labeled "Megane 2" and I got it with cables but they don't fit...
Hello everyone. It is a BMW X5 E70 2008, ccc. I bought HU on Aliexpress (the version is in the picture). After installation, the OEM BMW menu does not work (no signal), the usb does not show and the electronic steering wheel adjustment does not work. All cables well connected, checked several times. Can someone help me enable these functions? Thanks in advance
Hi , did you get CANBUS box with this unit?
Canbus is used to connect multimedia device with car functions and car ECU.
If you have one installed probably wrong settings are set for car. You can change it in factory settings menu (hidden menu with PIN code access).
And consult with your seller about bought head unit rather than writing problems here on forum.
As for system update, you can ask seller for update or find on this forum or net, by search term "ZLH_BMH" - that's your version of software for unit.
Hello and thanks for your reply. I have the canbus and it is connected properly. Checked several times by an auto electrician. Everything works as it should except the oem bmw menu. In the factory settings you're talking about, I tried all the options, but it's always the same - no signal. I think it's definitely a software problem and I can't find an update here or anywhere. And the seller is completely useless
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Hello and thanks for your reply. I have the canbus and it is connected properly. Checked several times by an auto electrician. Everything works as it should except the oem bmw menu. In the factory settings you're talking about, I tried all the options, but it's always the same - no signal. I think it's definitely a software problem and I can't find an update here or anywhere. And the seller is completely useless
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I would try to change canbus box with other one, another model like HIworld or Simplesoft, obviously there is no communication between ecu of car and head unit or cables behind unit for keys / steering wheel are misconnected or misswired. Check for wiring diagram for this device, find it one net somewhere.