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This is just a fun thread, and please don't go about trolling to buy a new phone. If you had one or two magical wishes what would you improve on the X8 be it hardware or software.
I for one if I had a wish would hope for the X8 to have magical solar panels which would keep the phone going all year without running low on power. Haha
And what would you wish for?
Well, if I can, I want to change the CPU to 1.5ghz, and processor Armv7 myself.
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CPU to 1,4 GHz and the size of the sreen to 4"
Fully working ics on stock kernel
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I wish.....
CPU 1/1.4 GHz and 1GB RAM.
Then ICS Jelley Bean not a factor.
mmm...
I would... make the volume rocker and the camera button a bit bigger, use better quality plastic to eliminate the cracking sound the back cover makes (noticed this on several black x8). And, last but not least, armv7 (minimum), better gpu, 1gb rom, 1gb data, 512mb ram so that we wont depend on app2sd that much and have better app response (that will definitely solve some major rom upgrade issues)
[Miracle]
What would i do : change Ram to 8gb DDR3 | 3D,2D Nvidia driver Like m150 | Battery up to 6Years or more! | 900GB internel Memory! | Cpu 3.32ghz | Camera Like DSLR [canon] | And Have Usb Port 2.0 | Thats enough for me.
[Just are dream] .
And yeah ! Sure i'll Fix My Phone !
If can..I wish my X8 can be flexible with the latest software & hardware.
Change the phone's processor to Tegra 2 1500MHz dual core
4"5 iNCH screen with corning gorilla glass
1Gb ram
OFFICIAL ICS 4.0
Ram 1GB CPU to 1.5GHz
A Cypress digitizer. Well, a better touchscreen. It's horrible to type with, and the screen just feels cheap. And the sensitivity is all messed up.
I'm fine with the speed, we have godly devs here.
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we have godly devs here.
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damn right we do! the best there is!
just more RAM, and slightly bigger screen
and maybe faster processor, thinner design, better software support, no squeaking case, unlocked bootloader, better battery life, multitouch..and so on..oops
CPU 1,5 dual core
I want 1gb of ram and 800mhz dual core armV7 and 2 speakers and maybe bigger screen like - 3.5
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I will change it's chipset to MSM8260 Snapdragon .
Just
Processor 3 Ghz DualCore
Ram 2 Gb
Nvidia
Upgrade from sony
Plus xperia s design hhaha...
1.5 GHZ Quad core
1Gb Ram
More internal memory
Bigger screen
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MatthewWu said:
Just
Processor 3 Ghz DualCore
Ram 2 Gb
Nvidia
Upgrade from sony
Plus xperia s design hhaha...
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Only dual core?
Why not Quad core
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Well it is good to open the desires about our Shakiras.
1) A method to unlock bootloader for 11W29+ devices.
2) screen size to 4 inches
3) RAM to 1 Gb.
In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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2GB will help with multitasking while the faster processor will help with gaming and to a degree, faster apps.
If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu. In android, I doubt there will be an app released in the next year or two that realistically benefits from the quad core's gpu vs the dual core's.
Both the dual and quad core will have all of the software optimizations Samsung has done for web browsing. The 2gb memory is probably overkill at this point, but in theory it means that apps will never close in the background since there will be no need to free up new memory.
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In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
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If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu.
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Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.
Extra RAM. It's going to be a while before the apps/software catches up with having two more cores. Meanwhile even old stuff can benefit from extra memory. Also see it as more future proof as you won't get the lame ass excuses from Samsung about it not having enough RAM to run whatever the latest release of Android is like we got with ICS and the Epic 4G.
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1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.
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You've misunderstood. Android can use 4 cores, of course. What it can't do is use them effectively in a way that creates any sort of advantage. But just as a mention, being derived from Linux source does not make it a full-fledged Linux OS by far.
And on your second point, again, you're comparing to a full PC operating system. Up until now, apps have been designed for phones with far less than 1GB of ram. It really depends on how you use your phone as to how much ram is needed. If you have a video editor running in the background, while playing pandora, and emulating Mario 64 you'll need more than simply browsing the web. But the processor, bus speeds, operating system, etc. all factor into how effectively more ram can be used. For Example: A 32 bit computer can't even use more than 4GB of ram. More ram does not simply mean 'much' more more speed, there are many other limiting factors. You can throw all the ram you want at a netbook, it will never run GTA4.
Off-Topic Edit: I vote 2GB ram over Quad-Core.
I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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lepapirriky said:
I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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There will be improvement between the dual-core, faster processor, and more ram, rest assured!
Although I still recommend closing apps unnecessarily opened to save battery.
2 A15s > 4 A9s.
Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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theking_13 said:
2 A15s > 4 A9s. Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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You don't have any lag on our epic 4g's? What ROM are you running? I've tried every rom out there and am friends with several other rooted epic owners, none of our phones are remotely comparable to the modern phones like s2 and above.
I'd love to see a video of you opening and running netflix, facebook, web browsing on chrome and stock, or whatever if you have time because this blows my mind. i'm doing something horribly wrong.
Too bad we don't have a samsung developed a15
I don't know why but I don't like qualcomm chips
Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird
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I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15. More instruction per clock is better than stacking cores which a phone doesn't even use. I think the 2 gb of ram has more performance advantage.
They also increased the memory bandwidth with new SOC by adding a new dual channel memory controller which the exynos had all along... They fixed alot of the shortcoming of snapdragon processor with the this gen product
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That's because Hummingbirds rape Snapdragons. See the following:
Either way if you want LTE at the moment you are stuck with dual core. So the 2GB of RAM is a nice enhancement. The EVO 1x ended up as two models the 1X which is quad core with no LTE and the 1XL which is dual core with LTE.
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RandomKing said:
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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Where the hell did the epic4g or the iPhone 4 come into the question? My point was that iPhones actually make use of their gpu's better than android phones do, so the difference between the quad core and the dual core gs3 should be minimal in that regard, at least for a while.
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I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15.
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This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.
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This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.
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No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
Qualcomm has a license to mess around with ARMs designs and make their own CPUs, not just copy and slap an "A4" on them like Apple does.
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No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
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Interesting how someone "Likes" wrong information.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
Designing a processor takes an extremely long amount of time. A15 was just barely released a few months ago. No way Krait was designed from it.
Now, Krait borrows some features from A15, but it's missing some important features as well. Krait does feature an extended instruction pipeline over the A9 (11 vs 9 cycles), but it's nowhere near as long as the A15 (15 cycles). Strictly speaking, lengthening a pipeline is less work than shortening it, hence Krait was not designed from the A15.
It's more likely Krait is an evolution of the Scorpion than anything.
As far as Apple, they have no place in this conversation, but if you must.... while they do have a "processor-only" license with ARM, they do farm out to a company to change some transistor signaling to make it more power efficient (they later bought them).
2 years ago, Apple bought Freescale, the only remaining PowerPC processor design company. (aside: The defense industry was largely concerned, as they rely on PowerPC for their power-efficient but high-speed applications). Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if they have an architecture license now so they can design their own ARM processors, Qualcomm-style. The main advantage would be integrating LTE radios like Qualcomm does.
Coincidentally it takes about 2 years to fully design a processor.
8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
arda99 said:
Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
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sorry, but mediatek stoled my idea, they are doing an exellent job with not more cores, it is same performance with more cores with more battery saving and making a good architecture no like amd, amd isnt bad, they chipsets are wrong built, bulldozer stink
Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
sandibad said:
Hello want to change my aunt and I am in big trouble
My choices are an Android device based on MTK 8127A from ATOTO but that come with 2 GB of RAM or a regular one based on PX 5 which come with 4 GB of RAM.
I understand that the MTK car goes devices are a little bit rare
So what to choose:
ATOTO with a MTK PROCESSOR and 2 GB of RAM, pretty good support and rom updates or a PX 5 ?
Which is faster and more stable?
Thank you
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From what i have heard, MediaTek has better reputation than Rockchip. Which one is more stable / faster depends on how the SoC is integrated into the platform, how the Software Governers control the clock rate of the SoC. So this is difficult to answer strictly based on the SoC chip itself.
SoC Chip: MTK 8127A
Soc-based Quad-core 1.5Ghz Cortex A7 CPU
GPU ARM Mali-450 MP4 .
System Version: ATOTO AICE OS 9.4, which is developed & customized based on Android 6.0 Marshmallow OS;
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PX5
8 core ARM Cortex-A53 (ARMv8) 1,5 GHz
GPU owerVR SGX6110 jusqu'à 600 Mhz (OpenGL 3.2, OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0/3.1, OpenCL, DirectX9.3)
Android 8.0
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but there are also :
PX6 ! devices (but it's news no more info a this moment) :
Android 8,1
CPUX6 RK3399
2 Core cortex A72 2ghz
4 Core Cortex A53 1.5ghz
RAM: SAMSUNG DDR3 4 GB
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-android-unit-cortex-a72-four-cortex-t3847427
And A72 Core is a lot better than A53, and A53 is a little bit better than the very old Cortex A7
I agree with @mum1989 that A72 and A53 CPU cores have much better specifications than the A7. If the applications you run on the head unit can take advantage of the ARMv8 instruction set or if the workload can be distributed across the cores, then PX6/PX6 SoC may well perform better than MTK8127A. On the other hand, in my day-to-day use of ATOTO A6 Pro which uses MTK8127A, I have never observed it to be slow or stutter or otherwise show signs that older A72 Core was limiting the end-user experience.
Hi, last year i have bought HU with following specification:
SYSTEM (Android 6.0.1) 1GB/16GB
Allwinner QUAD-CORE T3 p3,
Mali-400MP2 .
Unfortunatelly it turns out horribly slow - I have rooted it and tried to speed it up, but without success.
Now I'm considering to buy another one (cheap), I need HU to normal use (google maps + music app + radar warning application) .
Here are my selections:
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core T3 K2001M
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core MT8227L "1.3-1.5"
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Most units which I'm interested have these two processors some have also 2GB RAM. Which is better selection? Maybe i should choose someting with 8-core or 2GB ram?
Regards.
The processor is not the only thing that affects the speed, the amount of RAM matters too. Everything you listed has a gig of RAM, that is just too low for today's Android with all the services running in the background. Look for something with at least 2 GB, 4 would be better. The processors you're looking at are no powerhouses either. First they're all 32 bit and very obsolete. Also Allwinner is barely a decent processor for the money. Something from Rockchip or Intel would cost a bit more but you'd get more enjoyment out of it. If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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The man is completely right. Nothing with 1GB will perform.
2GB is enough. 4 GB is better.
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
spewaq said:
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
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a bit stubborn? The first is 1GB. If 2 persons advise to go for at least 2GB: what more advise do you need? If you had searched this forum in advance, you would have seen that everybody advises against 1 GB.
choose and suffer, or choose and enjoy.
That's a really low budget. A $150 will buy you a nice Pioneer or Kenwood traditional stereo or if you want more features get a cheapie Dual or other low end brand. At any rate you will enjoy your choice better then. Those Chinese Android radios have always been a bit of a kludge. It's only in the last couple years that they've been getting almost decent and that's from having a proper amount of RAM and better processors. The one thing that hasn't improved is build quality, they work ok but there's no telling for how long. OTH they're a lot of fun if you can afford it.
The second option you listed is definitely low end but might work good enough. Like Surfer63 said do your research! Don't expect someone else to tell you what to buy. For that HU you can start here. On that first page there's a link to 4PDA too.
Believe me 150$ for car radio is quite a lot in my country To be honest initially I thought 100$ will be enough for my modest needs... I know 4pda I have studied most topics regarding Allwinner and partially this mentioned above . I have some experience with such devices (with 1) I could try to flash it but I have no time for that. In the mean time I have found that there are HU which are fitted to car steering panel better than universal one so decided to buy another. I did not expect that someone tell me what should I buy, however all yours remarks are very valuable for me. Ok I'll read a bit more and buy something, and maybe give some feedback.