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Quad-core or 2gb ram?

In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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2GB will help with multitasking while the faster processor will help with gaming and to a degree, faster apps.

If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu. In android, I doubt there will be an app released in the next year or two that realistically benefits from the quad core's gpu vs the dual core's.
Both the dual and quad core will have all of the software optimizations Samsung has done for web browsing. The 2gb memory is probably overkill at this point, but in theory it means that apps will never close in the background since there will be no need to free up new memory.
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lepapirriky said:
In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
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muyoso said:
If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu.
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Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.

RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
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Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.

Extra RAM. It's going to be a while before the apps/software catches up with having two more cores. Meanwhile even old stuff can benefit from extra memory. Also see it as more future proof as you won't get the lame ass excuses from Samsung about it not having enough RAM to run whatever the latest release of Android is like we got with ICS and the Epic 4G.

XxLostSoulxX said:
1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.
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You've misunderstood. Android can use 4 cores, of course. What it can't do is use them effectively in a way that creates any sort of advantage. But just as a mention, being derived from Linux source does not make it a full-fledged Linux OS by far.
And on your second point, again, you're comparing to a full PC operating system. Up until now, apps have been designed for phones with far less than 1GB of ram. It really depends on how you use your phone as to how much ram is needed. If you have a video editor running in the background, while playing pandora, and emulating Mario 64 you'll need more than simply browsing the web. But the processor, bus speeds, operating system, etc. all factor into how effectively more ram can be used. For Example: A 32 bit computer can't even use more than 4GB of ram. More ram does not simply mean 'much' more more speed, there are many other limiting factors. You can throw all the ram you want at a netbook, it will never run GTA4.
Off-Topic Edit: I vote 2GB ram over Quad-Core.

I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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lepapirriky said:
I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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There will be improvement between the dual-core, faster processor, and more ram, rest assured!
Although I still recommend closing apps unnecessarily opened to save battery.

2 A15s > 4 A9s.
Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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theking_13 said:
2 A15s > 4 A9s. Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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+9000

RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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You don't have any lag on our epic 4g's? What ROM are you running? I've tried every rom out there and am friends with several other rooted epic owners, none of our phones are remotely comparable to the modern phones like s2 and above.
I'd love to see a video of you opening and running netflix, facebook, web browsing on chrome and stock, or whatever if you have time because this blows my mind. i'm doing something horribly wrong.

Too bad we don't have a samsung developed a15
I don't know why but I don't like qualcomm chips
Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird
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I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15. More instruction per clock is better than stacking cores which a phone doesn't even use. I think the 2 gb of ram has more performance advantage.
They also increased the memory bandwidth with new SOC by adding a new dual channel memory controller which the exynos had all along... They fixed alot of the shortcoming of snapdragon processor with the this gen product

gtuansdiamm said:
[...]Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird[...]
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That's because Hummingbirds rape Snapdragons. See the following:
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Either way if you want LTE at the moment you are stuck with dual core. So the 2GB of RAM is a nice enhancement. The EVO 1x ended up as two models the 1X which is quad core with no LTE and the 1XL which is dual core with LTE.
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RandomKing said:
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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Where the hell did the epic4g or the iPhone 4 come into the question? My point was that iPhones actually make use of their gpu's better than android phones do, so the difference between the quad core and the dual core gs3 should be minimal in that regard, at least for a while.
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noobnl said:
I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15.
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This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.

jnadke said:
This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.
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No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
Qualcomm has a license to mess around with ARMs designs and make their own CPUs, not just copy and slap an "A4" on them like Apple does.
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theking_13 said:
No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
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Interesting how someone "Likes" wrong information.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
Designing a processor takes an extremely long amount of time. A15 was just barely released a few months ago. No way Krait was designed from it.
Now, Krait borrows some features from A15, but it's missing some important features as well. Krait does feature an extended instruction pipeline over the A9 (11 vs 9 cycles), but it's nowhere near as long as the A15 (15 cycles). Strictly speaking, lengthening a pipeline is less work than shortening it, hence Krait was not designed from the A15.
It's more likely Krait is an evolution of the Scorpion than anything.
As far as Apple, they have no place in this conversation, but if you must.... while they do have a "processor-only" license with ARM, they do farm out to a company to change some transistor signaling to make it more power efficient (they later bought them).
2 years ago, Apple bought Freescale, the only remaining PowerPC processor design company. (aside: The defense industry was largely concerned, as they rely on PowerPC for their power-efficient but high-speed applications). Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if they have an architecture license now so they can design their own ARM processors, Qualcomm-style. The main advantage would be integrating LTE radios like Qualcomm does.
Coincidentally it takes about 2 years to fully design a processor.

NEXUS 10 Only 2 CORES?

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Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:

OLYMPIAKOI said:
:crying:
Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:
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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.

Cores aren't everything
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The dual core in teh NExus 10 is suppsedly super fast and if rumours are to be right faster the the A6X in the Ipad

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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.
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Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:

OLYMPIAKOI said:
Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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This.

I read Apple's newest iPad got a new processor as it was slower pushing all the pixels in the iPad 3. I wish I could find the link. However, it it's as fast or faster than the latest iPad, it should be fine.

OLYMPIAKOI said:
Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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That's not necessarily right
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I rather get dual core a15 better than quad core a9
yet its GPU is awesome, match with exynos 5250 = beast

The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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musclehead84 said:
The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Nexus 7 has a quad core Tegra3 not a s4.

Either way, no device has specs this awesome yet. Can't wait for benchmarks from the Exynos 5250 :good:

More goes into the speed of a processor than the number of cores/clock speed. Just because it is a dual core doesn't make it slower than a quadcore CPU. I would prefer a faster CPU than have a quad core that would actually be slower just to have 2 more cores
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4 cores and 2 gb of ram is perfect for multitasking, if the fastest processor up to today is the dual core A15, then google should have put - - - > 2 dual core A15 in the nexus 10,....
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How does the S4 Dual in the S3 stack up? is it still a good chip.

*face palm*
Seriously dude, they're not idiots. They know what they're doing. Do you really think Google ans Samsung would let the big new tablet be slower than the old small one? The Cortex A15 is over twice as fast as the old A9 cores so that more than makes up for that part and in addition has more single threaded performance which is what matters. Have you seen the Galaxy S3 with the Exynox in comparison to the S2? Its hardly faster because single threaded performance is more important.

musclehead84 said:
The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Not quite accurate. When it comes to CPU performance, according to Antutu the Exynos 5250 is about 20% slower overall than the S4 Pro. Of course the Exynos 5250 is a dual core, while S4 Pro is quad, which means the A15 is something like 65% faster per core - so anything that doesn't utilize more than 2 cores will run considerably faster on the Exynos 5.
As for this whole dual- versus quad-A15 noise, A15 is the fastest cpu architecture. There is no SoC on the market (or even slated for release before Q1 2013 that I know of) that integrates four of them.
For most purposes the Exynos 5250 is still going to be the fastest thing out there for a while. Don't count Krait (the S4) out yet though - it's designed to run at up to 2GHz (the Nexus 4 runs at 1.5) while the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet (Exynos 5 is 1.7GHz.)
Also benchmarks mean nothing. :laugh:

Sjael said:
the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet
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Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.

Dual core + 9000mah = more battery
A15 vs A9 = faster calculations and more performance
2GB Ram = excellent multitasking
add to all of this the new Mali T-604 GPU you get something that should be called an ipad terminator

thebobp said:
Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.
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"the Cortex-A15 MPCore processor running at up to 2.5GHz will enable highly scalable solutions within constantly shrinking energy, thermal and cost budgets"
straight from the ARM website

[Q] Tegra 3 vs Exynos 5

The Nexus 7 has a quad-core tegra 3 with 4 cortex a-9 cores while the Nexus 10 comes with a dual-core exynos 5 with 2 cortex a-15 cores. So which chipset is more powerful? Cortex a-9 is less powerful than the a-15, but there are twice as many cores, and it kind of confuses me why Google would go with a quad-core for their tab, but dual-core for their full-sized tablet. Thanks for the answers, I don't know whether I should keep my nexus 7 or trade it in and buy a nexus 10 when it's released.

The a15 dual core murders our tegra 3.
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The Dual Core Exynos is "better". But they are two completely different products with completely different functions. So just because the N10 has better hardware doesn't tell the whole story.

ÜBER™ said:
The a15 dual core murders our tegra 3.
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lol, thats funny chit right there,,lol

It is more power efficient too!
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Welcome the New Beast from Samsung Exynos5 Octa the 8 Core Processor

Samsung just launched a new processor line up called Exynos5 Octa the story is still developing but the following are some details that are out
Samsung unveiled a brand new processor that will power its future mobile devices. Dubbed “Exynos5 Octa,” the new chip features two sets of four cores and a 28nm process that will eventually drop down to 10nm in the coming years. The chipset provides significant performance enhancements over Samsung’s previous-generation quad-core Exynos processor, which is now found in more than 53 million mobile devices. The company also said that the new Exynos5 Octa has a power-saving mode that helps improve battery life by reducing consumption when devices are idling and in other situations where full processing power is not required.

So between Exynos 5 Quad which is an A15 32nm chip that's supposed to be used in the SGS4, Krait v3 which is 15% faster version of S4 Pro, and now Octa, Nvidia may as well pack up their marbles and go home.
For geeks, here's some details on Exynos 5 which is Samsung's current "state of the art."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual
And S4 Pro
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Here's some disucssion of Teg4 from a chip forum. People who do chips for a living aren't impressed; especially with the GPU.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6224

Watch out. Demandarin might come around and tell us how great the Tegra 4 is Youg looks good, I wonder if it will be involved in devices before August 2013
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8 cores..wow...overkill.
It wasnt long ago (less than a year?) That reviewers were stating quad core is abit of a gimmich right now on phones and tabs etc.
Im all for it ofcourse..but wow 8 cores

The 8 cores will be device into 2 sub 4 cores - 1 sub 4 core will be an A7 1.2GHZ quadcore processor for lighter task and the second sub core will be 4 core A15 1.6GHZ of above quadcore processor.
The same will be built on 28 NM technology and later 10 NM technology over a period of time.
Again these are not confirmed specs

Enhanced Exynos 5 Octa unveiled, on its way to Galaxy Note III

Samsung has just announced an enhanced version of its Exynos 5 Octa chipset.
Currently the Octa chipset is available only on the I9500 Galaxy S4 flagship.
The second generation Exynos 5 Octa might be called Exynos Evolved and it will be more powerful, enhanced Exynos 5 Octa".
Speculation calls for the new chip to be the Samsung Exynos 5420 and will feature a higher clock speed along with improved optimization for the 8 integrated cores.
Stay tuned for more news next week:highfive:

They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.

Wrong forum,It's galaxy S3 forum section,Exynos 4 not 5.

Theshawty said:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
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It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa

Glebun said:
It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
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Agreed. Read here The HMP processing does require all the 8 cores available online.
Misconception #6: Yes the CPU is a true 8-core processor. It's just not being used a such in its initial software implementations
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The to-be-announced new processor is the 5420, it's not a new revision of the 5410. It has the same target clocks as the 5410 but with a properly working CCI to be able to use GTS, and the GPU is replaced with a new generation Mali T62X instead of the SGX 544. It also has some other miscellaneous updates like VP9 encoder/decoder. It'll debut in the new Chromebook this fall.I already know the differences. In any case - it's not useful in regard to the 5410.
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