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NEXUS 10 Only 2 CORES?

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Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:

OLYMPIAKOI said:
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Is it true that the Nexus 10 has ONLY 2 cores?
How does google dare to put only 2 cores in nexus 10 vs the 4 cores of nexus 7?:crying:
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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.

Cores aren't everything
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The dual core in teh NExus 10 is suppsedly super fast and if rumours are to be right faster the the A6X in the Ipad

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I believe that the dual core A15 processor on the nexus 10 outperforms the tegra3 on the nexus 7. At least that's what their marketing team said.
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Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:

OLYMPIAKOI said:
Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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This.

I read Apple's newest iPad got a new processor as it was slower pushing all the pixels in the iPad 3. I wish I could find the link. However, it it's as fast or faster than the latest iPad, it should be fine.

OLYMPIAKOI said:
Yeah that might be true in marketing, BUT today in year 2012-13 --- FOUR CORES (4) is the standard....
That was a stupid move from google. A nexus 10 with 4 (A15 ) cores Would have been the smartest choice for 2560x1600 resolution and 9000 mah battery.:crying:
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That's not necessarily right
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I rather get dual core a15 better than quad core a9
yet its GPU is awesome, match with exynos 5250 = beast

The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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musclehead84 said:
The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Nexus 7 has a quad core Tegra3 not a s4.

Either way, no device has specs this awesome yet. Can't wait for benchmarks from the Exynos 5250 :good:

More goes into the speed of a processor than the number of cores/clock speed. Just because it is a dual core doesn't make it slower than a quadcore CPU. I would prefer a faster CPU than have a quad core that would actually be slower just to have 2 more cores
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4 cores and 2 gb of ram is perfect for multitasking, if the fastest processor up to today is the dual core A15, then google should have put - - - > 2 dual core A15 in the nexus 10,....
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How does the S4 Dual in the S3 stack up? is it still a good chip.

*face palm*
Seriously dude, they're not idiots. They know what they're doing. Do you really think Google ans Samsung would let the big new tablet be slower than the old small one? The Cortex A15 is over twice as fast as the old A9 cores so that more than makes up for that part and in addition has more single threaded performance which is what matters. Have you seen the Galaxy S3 with the Exynox in comparison to the S2? Its hardly faster because single threaded performance is more important.

musclehead84 said:
The dual a15s are better than the s4 pro in the nexus 7. The exynos 5250 is the fastest chipset for phones and tablets so far
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Not quite accurate. When it comes to CPU performance, according to Antutu the Exynos 5250 is about 20% slower overall than the S4 Pro. Of course the Exynos 5250 is a dual core, while S4 Pro is quad, which means the A15 is something like 65% faster per core - so anything that doesn't utilize more than 2 cores will run considerably faster on the Exynos 5.
As for this whole dual- versus quad-A15 noise, A15 is the fastest cpu architecture. There is no SoC on the market (or even slated for release before Q1 2013 that I know of) that integrates four of them.
For most purposes the Exynos 5250 is still going to be the fastest thing out there for a while. Don't count Krait (the S4) out yet though - it's designed to run at up to 2GHz (the Nexus 4 runs at 1.5) while the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet (Exynos 5 is 1.7GHz.)
Also benchmarks mean nothing. :laugh:

Sjael said:
the Cortex A15 isn't really supposed to be run above 1.5GHz in a phone/tablet
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Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.

Dual core + 9000mah = more battery
A15 vs A9 = faster calculations and more performance
2GB Ram = excellent multitasking
add to all of this the new Mali T-604 GPU you get something that should be called an ipad terminator

thebobp said:
Can you elaborate? I thought it could go up to 2.5ghz.
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"the Cortex-A15 MPCore processor running at up to 2.5GHz will enable highly scalable solutions within constantly shrinking energy, thermal and cost budgets"
straight from the ARM website

Welcome the New Beast from Samsung Exynos5 Octa the 8 Core Processor

Samsung just launched a new processor line up called Exynos5 Octa the story is still developing but the following are some details that are out
Samsung unveiled a brand new processor that will power its future mobile devices. Dubbed “Exynos5 Octa,” the new chip features two sets of four cores and a 28nm process that will eventually drop down to 10nm in the coming years. The chipset provides significant performance enhancements over Samsung’s previous-generation quad-core Exynos processor, which is now found in more than 53 million mobile devices. The company also said that the new Exynos5 Octa has a power-saving mode that helps improve battery life by reducing consumption when devices are idling and in other situations where full processing power is not required.

So between Exynos 5 Quad which is an A15 32nm chip that's supposed to be used in the SGS4, Krait v3 which is 15% faster version of S4 Pro, and now Octa, Nvidia may as well pack up their marbles and go home.
For geeks, here's some details on Exynos 5 which is Samsung's current "state of the art."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6148/samsung-announces-a15malit604-based-exynos-5-dual
And S4 Pro
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Here's some disucssion of Teg4 from a chip forum. People who do chips for a living aren't impressed; especially with the GPU.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6224

Watch out. Demandarin might come around and tell us how great the Tegra 4 is Youg looks good, I wonder if it will be involved in devices before August 2013
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8 cores..wow...overkill.
It wasnt long ago (less than a year?) That reviewers were stating quad core is abit of a gimmich right now on phones and tabs etc.
Im all for it ofcourse..but wow 8 cores

The 8 cores will be device into 2 sub 4 cores - 1 sub 4 core will be an A7 1.2GHZ quadcore processor for lighter task and the second sub core will be 4 core A15 1.6GHZ of above quadcore processor.
The same will be built on 28 NM technology and later 10 NM technology over a period of time.
Again these are not confirmed specs

Note 2 and Beyond: Exynos 5 (big.little) Octa-Core

What do you all think?
CES: Samsung unveils an eight-core Exynos 5 smartphone chip
Hints at a superfast Samsung Galaxy S4 / Note 3
LAS VEGAS: KOREAN HARDWARE MAKER Samsung unveiled its eight-core Octa Exynos 5 processor at CES on Wednesday, which is likely to feature in its Galaxy S4 smartphone.
Making up for its lack of high profile announcements at this year's Las Vegas consumer electronics show today, Samsung unwrapped the eight-core chip designed for use in smartphones and tablets.
Samsung said that the Octa Exynos 5 chip is much faster than its previous processors including the Exynos 4, and boasts much lower power consumption. That's because the chip is split into two sets of quad-core processors that both use ARM's new Big.little processor technology, pairing an energy efficient ARM Cortex A7 chip with a more powerful Cortex A15 multicore chip.
According to Samsung, the chip is faster than its Exynos 5 dual-core chip that features in the Google Nexus 10 - presently the fastest Android handset available on the market today, and claims it will bring a new level of processing power to mobile devices. It said that this chip will also bring a much more impressive gaming experience to its next generation mobile products, and will easily handle HD media streaming.
That's not to say your next Samsung smartphone will have poor battery life though, as Samsung claimed the eight-core processor is up to 70 percent more energy efficient than its previous Exynos chips.
There's no word yet on when Samsung's eight-core Exynos 5 processor will start shipping, but we'll be very surprised if it doesn't appear in the firm's next generation Galaxy flagship smartphone. We're likely to hear more at the Mobile World Congress show in Barcelona next month.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1ydw8)
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Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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bkjugg said:
Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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Android does not lag one bit on Nexus 4 running AOSP!
But this is actually a Dual-Quad core with a powerful Quad Core Cortex A15 combined with Quad Core Battery efficient Cortex A7 and the cores get switched in terms of workload so it can save battery more that normal Quad Core processors.

8 cores sammy's killing it
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We will always love our quad-core Note II.
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It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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UtkarshGupta said:
It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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probably an 4000mAh+ battery

UtkarshGupta said:
It's gonna freaking rape the battery
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Don't be sure.
It has 4 low-power Cortex A7 cores to handle easy missions and save battery. Especially when screen is off.
Check out Tegra 3, only the 5th core is working when screen is off, and the battery barely goes down!!

system.img said:
Android does not lag one bit on Nexus 4 running AOSP!
But this is actually a Dual-Quad core with a powerful Quad Core Cortex A15 combined with Quad Core Battery efficient Cortex A7 and the cores get switched in terms of workload so it can save battery more that normal Quad Core processors.
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Yeah but. Too many CPU, GPU etc., you need to adapt appz for it, you have sooo powerful hardware and you still can't use it properly. And we have tons of appz like Seeder to reduce lagz lol. I dont know appz which have adapt for quadcore except benchmarkz (ohh I can't undesrstand ppl who are using it) and gamez, but ROFL, simple Tapatalk doesnt have a smooth scrolling if you watch >20 topics.
Its a very huge disadvantage
IMHO.
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Talk about Jelly Bean's in-built support for Hardware Acceleration, lol

bkjugg said:
Oh, you got octacore CPU and android still has to lag huehuehue
Optimization trouble
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I have an s3 and an iphone 4s. Guess which one lags?
s3 is the fastest smoothest phone/computing device I've ever used. period.
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I hope this has 3 modes
low power- 4 low power cores
high power- 4 high octane cores chomp away at tasks
balls to the wall-all 8 cores throw their testosterone at everything you a nb d the devs try and run, making mincemeat of the most powerhungry intense game or all liked it was running tetris lol can you imagine wielding such mobile processing power??
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It's power will be utilized when Ubuntu for Android!
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for those who dont know, here are some of the interesting facts.
* The Octa-core CPU has 8 Cores, 4 A15 cores and 4 A7 cores
* The A15 cores are tuned to perform better by sacrificing battery life, and A7 core is tuned to be more efficient while sacrificing performance
* Even though the A7 is less powerful than A15, it is more powerful than the Cortex A8 cpu found in last generation phones. Still it uses almost 1/10 the power of Cortex A8
* Exynos 5 can operate in two modes. big.Little and big.LITTLE MP mode.
* In normal big.LITTLE mode, only 4 cores (or less) will be active at a time. The OS will not be aware of the Low power cores (just like in Tegra 3)
* In big.LITTLE MP mode, the OS knows that the CPU have 8 cores. It can use all 8 cores at once if there is demand for it. (My understanding is that android will not support this mode as of now)

People need to realise something.
Samsung could make a processor with 100 a15s for the gs4. It wouldn't effect the battery a bit unless the software was configured that way.
Almost everything on a processor is now power gated in the silicone, meaning it can be switched on off at will. A power gated section literally draws ZERO power.
So 100 cores would make no difference if only 2 of them were ever really used. It's just the amount of money Samsung want to spend on the silicone (smaller chips have higher yields since there's less chance of defects affecting the chip).
The die size (the amount of silicone used) for the A7 is tiny. Depending on how smart Samsung is (and how much coffee we can feed to devs like Gokan and AndreiLux ) , we could be looking at a powerful, highly efficient chip. Considering we're also looking at shrinking from 32nm to 28nm for this the A15s themselves might not even draw too much juice. Arm said A15s would be sensible for smart phone use at good 28nm or normal 22nm production. And Samsung production right now is very 'good'
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Will note 3 and s4 feature this 8 core processor?

Most likely, yes. This was long over-due. The next big thing is probably already in development. If you have a Note 2 and you want to upgrade, wait for next year. The Note 2 is powerful enough and has excellent battery life, a very important factor to consider in today's mobile market.
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Will note 3 and s4 feature this 8 core processor?
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winlinmac001 said:
Most likely, yes. This was long over-due. The next big thing is probably already in development. If you have a Note 2 and you want to upgrade, wait for next year. The Note 2 is powerful enough and has excellent battery life, a very important factor to consider in today's mobile market.
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If this was th3 case, I would've stayed with s1. Actually I m love with samsung, I used every galaxy s and note series so I will update
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I was going to wait for the s5 to upgrade but if the s4 had this chip then it's defo worth the upgrade from s3
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This is Samsung's strategy in luring customers to buying a new device every year. The Exynos 5 chipset was made well over a year ago but wasn't employed in last years models. Guess what? Exynos 6 is already in development. Lol. :silly:
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I was going to wait for the s5 to upgrade but if the s4 had this chip then it's defo worth the upgrade from s3
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All that power and no apps to utilize it. All those power and bad UI to go along with it. What wasted potential. Maybe in two year's time devs will start utilizing quad core processors and 16 cores will be the flagship standard. It's a shame Android is so fragmented.

[OFF Topic] A new architecture

8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea

persano said:
8 cortex a7 are the same power comsuption than 4 cortex a8, the same or less that 4 a9, and less that 4 a15, and have more ghz in total, so it would be a good idea to make this, mtk make cortex a 7 processors and the 4 cores device with it are the same speed as google nexus 4, so i think that it will be a good idea
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Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.

arda99 said:
Just think of AMD vs INTEL
More cores vs. higher performance per core
Don't get fooled by the market gimmick and I prefer the A9/Intel way any day.
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sorry, but mediatek stoled my idea, they are doing an exellent job with not more cores, it is same performance with more cores with more battery saving and making a good architecture no like amd, amd isnt bad, they chipsets are wrong built, bulldozer stink

Enhanced Exynos 5 Octa unveiled, on its way to Galaxy Note III

Samsung has just announced an enhanced version of its Exynos 5 Octa chipset.
Currently the Octa chipset is available only on the I9500 Galaxy S4 flagship.
The second generation Exynos 5 Octa might be called Exynos Evolved and it will be more powerful, enhanced Exynos 5 Octa".
Speculation calls for the new chip to be the Samsung Exynos 5420 and will feature a higher clock speed along with improved optimization for the 8 integrated cores.
Stay tuned for more news next week:highfive:

They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.

Wrong forum,It's galaxy S3 forum section,Exynos 4 not 5.

Theshawty said:
They really shouldn't call it octa cores and it doesn't have a solid 8 cores. It has a 4x2 core structure.. With two solid four core processors, not one eight core one.
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It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa

Glebun said:
It has 8 cores inside it, might as well call it octa
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Agreed. Read here The HMP processing does require all the 8 cores available online.
Misconception #6: Yes the CPU is a true 8-core processor. It's just not being used a such in its initial software implementations
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More from Andrei:
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The to-be-announced new processor is the 5420, it's not a new revision of the 5410. It has the same target clocks as the 5410 but with a properly working CCI to be able to use GTS, and the GPU is replaced with a new generation Mali T62X instead of the SGX 544. It also has some other miscellaneous updates like VP9 encoder/decoder. It'll debut in the new Chromebook this fall.I already know the differences. In any case - it's not useful in regard to the 5410.
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Thread has nothing to do with s3
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