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XTZ Essentials Software/Accessoires

Hello fellow xda-members,
I am currently waiting for the delivery of my SGP 311. Should be here by monday :fingers-crossed:.
I chose the XTZ because of its features, design and weight and last but not least price. It was a head to head race with the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, which falls behind in design (touchwiz urgh), weight and pricing (180 bucks more), but has one feature, that I do find useful as a student: The S-pen.
I know that no third party stick can replace a fully integrated pen system like the s-pen, but I dont need the complete package. I am looking for a reliable and useful combination of accessoires both software and hardware, that will enhance the creative capabilities of the XTZ to some extent.
Please share your good/bad experiences with certain pieces of hard-/software.
I would need suggestions:
Case (w/ keyboard?)
Stylus
Bluetooth headset
Creative software for students
Thanks in advance,
Buster

Case: I'd say the Original Sony one. It is really expesive compared to third party ones, but every single of them had some kind of problem that turned me off. I use mine mostly for transport and at school, to protect. At home, I'm really careful, so I just remove it (it gets bulky and heavy-ish).
Stylus: Can't comment about that
Bluetooth Headset: Can't comment about that²
Apps for Stundents: I can recommend quite a few. I'm assuming you know most apps, but still giving some obvious recommendations.
Cal: It's a Beautiful Calendar app. I'm using it because 4.3 stock Calendar app is basically useless, as it force closes all the time (I'd probably fix it by doing a factory reset, but I'm too lazy for that now).
Calcu - The Ultimate Calculator: Quite feature-rich, beautifully designed calculator. The stock one is quite good too, not as feature rich, though.
CliffHanger: I'm constantly watching TV Series, and this is a great app to have notifications about new episodes and to keep track of which you have watched already.
ConvertIt (Pro): Great conversion app, lots of units (LOTS)
Google Drive: Great writing app, IF you have a internet connection the whole time. It is almost useless as a editing tool while offline.
Box.net: I'm not sure if the promo is still going on, but if it is, as a Xperia owner, you have 50 Gb of lifetime cloud storage.
Financious: Great, also beautifully designed, finances tracking app.
MX Player: Awesome video player. With a plugin, you can reproduce basically everything.
Office Suite (Pro): I personally don't like their editor, but the reader is quite good, specially PDF.
PackageBuddy (Pro): Great package tracking app.
Sony Sketch: Great simple drawing app... A stylus would make it more useful.
Sony Tasks: Not feature rich, but useful for simple things.
Timetable (by Gabriel Ittner): Well designed, highly customizable Timetable app.
Those are the ones I can recommend. Hope you enjoy your device. In any doubts, just let us know

Case = Poetic SlimLine
The case is pretty heavy, but very thin, magnet works very well and is one of the better cases available. Still the best case I've seen. If you are going to carry it in a bag near a wallet you might not want a magnet that strong though...

Sony MDR-10RBT with viper4android; pretty awesome!.
Case official sony one. Had a poetic slim and it damaged the LCD display; so I got a new tablet and sony case. Also bought the dock, it's worth it if you plan on maintaining waterproof long term. Also you should try to use the USB port as little as possible. Tabs are flimsy and damage easily, also the USB port is weak in that if used too often one of those days when you unplug it you may take the port along with you!
Poetic slim is a nice feel case but it doesn't bend as easily as the tablet itself. If you use a dock to charge as I did, I had to remove the tablet from the case daily and that means bending my display daily which eventually lead to dead pixels; the case also exerts why to much pressure on the table which makes rainbows swirls more likely to occur and damage if dropped. If you want to see for yourself insert the tablet into the case while the screen is on.
These quirks aside; it's an awesome tablet! And it's is built for the long haul. I love being able to wash it when it's dirty and curtesy of Aqua cam Z Pro, I have got some awesome pics from my last snorkel adventure in the ocean; probably won't do that again as the tablet doesn't float at all!

[q] looking for an android smartwatch for swimming/surfing

Hi everyone,
As said on tittle, I'm looking for a smart watch with the following requisites:
- Android complete 4.2 or higher
- Cell phone itself (gsm/wcdma)
- IP68?
I need it for swimming/surfing/similar, due to my work, I need to be contactable (calls/email) everytime, and sometimes I go swimming/surfing.
I bought an Imacwear M7, but the people said it's not ip67 and that it will die if I use it on the sea.
Does anyone tried this? Any other smartwatch? Any other options?
I'm a little bit lost, need your opinion and/or experience
Thanks a lot

none of the standalone (phone) watches will be fully water proof, because of microphone/speaker, if ever there will be one
some of them might claim water resistance but i wouldn't wear them not in shallow water, let alone the sea
the Sony Smartwatch 2 for example, claims to be ip57, but can't survive a shower. that watch doesn't even have a microphone or speaker
might be build quality related though

Swimming and surfing plus speaker and mic? That's 1 ATM (10m/30ft) rating at a minimum. No such creature exists, yet. It is possible to do, but companies would rather sell fashion smartwatches with laughable IP ratings instead.

Send it away and have it Liquipelled. http://www.liquipel.com/

SerialKilla said:
Send it away and have it Liquipelled. http://www.liquipel.com/
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Don't waste your money. Tried that on three smartwatches, as well as a fourth project smartwatch of my own. It doesn't work. The treatment wears off when it comes in contact with pretty much anything. Oil deposits in the air from cooking, your skin, cloth, sand, dirt.

airtemisa said:
Hi everyone,
As said on tittle, I'm looking for a smart watch with the following requisites:
- Android complete 4.2 or higher
- Cell phone itself (gsm/wcdma)
- IP68?
I need it for swimming/surfing/similar, due to my work, I need to be contactable (calls/email) everytime, and sometimes I go swimming/surfing.
I bought an Imacwear M7, but the people said it's not ip67 and that it will die if I use it on the sea.
Does anyone tried this? Any other smartwatch? Any other options?
I'm a little bit lost, need your opinion and/or experience
Thanks a lot
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I use Tempo Trainer Pro watch. U can find it here http://www.proswimwear.co.uk/ . It's includes a clip for dry land exercise. I am sure you will find it better then apple watch or Garmin.

I still havent found what im looking for...

Like I said before, no such creature exists. The best you can hope for is a regular smartwatch and then have somebody like me mod it to get it to a 1ATM (33ft) WR rating.

Hi lokifish Marz.... I´ve been thinking about doing that in my M7 smartwatch, but finally never tried it.
If finally doesnt appear that desired model, i will try to mod it for submersing

The M7 is like the Omate and is a serious pain to get IP67, much less anything better than that. About the only sort of easy way to get past a useless IP rating is fill the entire case with RTV silicone sealant, otherwise you are looking at a complete teardown and machine work.

I've been trying with liquid neoprene. It seals perfectly, very fluid, very good handling and also cheap!
Now I need to identify all the holes of the watch and work then properly.... It should work!

List of ingress points that need to be addressed to reach a minimum of 1 ATM water resistance needed for swimming/surfing;
Case back (requires complete redesign of seals or permanent sealing of back to case)
Case back screws and screw holes (requires complete redesign of seals or permanent sealing of screws into the case)
Buttons (requires complete redesign of button seals)
Camera (requires removal and filling of camera housing of replacement of housing glass)
Speaker (requires secondary sealing layer between speaker and outside)
Mic (requires secondary sealing layer between MIC and outside)
SIM Slot Door (requires sealing of screw holes and better gasket)
Charging contacts (requires the contact assembly in the case back be remounted and sealed using marine epoxy)
Display (requires the case be redesigned or pressure injecting sealant or marine epoxy from the backside)
Antenna ports (requires the bands be removed, the ports cleaned out. The bands then need remounting and a stiff silicone sealant be injected into the ports)
MIC and speaker secondary seal will negatively affect audio performance. This is however required as MIC and speaker damage will occur otherwise.
Display sealing issues are due to the lack of a large enough lip for the display to be mounted on to provide a proper seal
*Alternative approach (Untested)
Completely seal the display,PCB, SD Card, SIM Card, and battery in one solid block of silicone or some other water resistant material. Drawback is this seriously affects usability of the buttons, camera, MIC, and speaker. This also makes SIM, SDCard and battery swapping impossible.
(I've had over two years to think about this as well as attempt to get the TS and it's clones to pass a proper 24hr immersion test at 10m/33ft/1ATM. To date, I have not succeeded.)

Uffff.... so... you need to do a master.... its a marathon!
Thanks Lokifish... i think maybe i wont try...

i95,android 4.3,ip65,dial/answer phone call,you can know more from tinydeal.but i think Lokifish is right,no smartwatch can survive after a long time in the sea.

jack5847 said:
i think Lokifish is right,no smartwatch can survive after a long time in the sea.
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Not exactly true. If he wanted a companion smartwatch it's not the hard at all. The issue is with him wanting to be able to do that with a standalone, or otherwise known as a watchphone. That requires far more engineering. The closest he could get to any out of the box solution would be the massive Timex Ironman ONE GPS+ and all that would give him is something similar to SMS texts and that's it. The other option is a decently made standalone then seal it completely with a SIM inside. He would lose the mic and speaker function but would at least be able to send/receive texts and know who's trying to call him. Not a pretty solution but it would work.

I think i´ve got it!
Doodgee S1.
I dont link to any shop, but you can find it very easy. I´m waiting for some reviews...

airtemisa said:
I think i´ve got it!
Doodgee S1.
I dont link to any shop, but you can find it very easy. I´m waiting for some reviews...
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Again, ignore any IP67 rated. IP67 is 1m/3ft immersion with absolutely no moving allowed.

I agree with Lokifish - I don't think that animal exists. I just bought the No 1 A10 to evaluate it for workouts, including swimming...
http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_286212.html
...and am looking at the D5 for "office wear". I have to admit that I'm more attracted to the idea of "one watch to rule them all" - but - I'm also looking at $56 for the A10 (I bought it when it was on sale) and $130 or so for the D5 (or similar) so for the total outlay it's a pretty compelling use case. I was an original Omate TrueSmart backer and was profoundly disappointed. After spending $360++ for a watch that *wasn't* waterproof I went the "dedicated exercise computer as a watch" route - in the form of the Polar V800. I had to wait another year or so for smart notifications to show up (for Android) and Polar *still* hasn't done some basic data integration with 3rd parties like MyFitnessPal and the like. That was another $500+ and it *still* doesn't collect accurate heart rate data in the water. So - there's that... and of course there's no *real* smartwatch functionality to speak of.
I had considered the Garmin fenix 3 - and the recent addition of on-device HRM is interesting - but I'm mostly a swimmer so I'm going to be using a chest-worn device if I go that route. But *if* I did that it would be another $600-800 plus the cost of their data-recording HRM strap. As it stands now - I'm done with dropping multiple C-notes onto one-off projects and half baked tech from "the big companies". I'm going to nickel-and-dime my way through and figure out a way to make it work with multiple devices (with a LOT of help from my friends at XDA). I have the Bragi Dash coming in (sometime in February at last count) which I'm hoping will give me accurate HRM/oximetry data while swimming - and I'll be working to merge that data with the stroke/SWOLF data I gather from the wrist-worn device.
Side note: One of the advantages of the dual-device theory just occurred to me - in that I *can* carry a portable battery-pack charger and have one on charge when the other is on my wrist. So there's some element of continuity/back-up, should something go sideways with one device or another. When my TrueSmart would go dead I felt pretty naked, when it worked and was relatively performant from a battery perspective.
Anyway, I think this class of device will take some time to sort out as the companies figure out what the market(s) will bear in terms of durability and cost.

I bet your smartwatch can't do this (Pushing the boundaries of water resistance)

Modified Omate Roma prototype tested at 1ATM/10m/33ft in a pressure chamber. The modification is done using off the shelf stuff I had in my tool kit and does not effect functionality or the ability to remove the caseback. The only thing that was modified is the case seals, the case itself is 100% original.
I would have liked to have shown the watch running while the test was performed but could not. The reason is that the dock I have is not for the Roma which makes it near impossible to charge it.
I have also tested a Galaxy Gear, Sony SW2, LG G Watch, SmartQ Z and couple others. Except for the Pebble, not a single one will pass even a 0.5ATM/5m/16ft test. Much less a 1ATM test.
Conclusion
Depending on the failure point of the crystal (untested), the Roma could easily be manufactured to withstand 3ATM/30m/99ft and beyond. If manufactured with the needed minor changes to reach even 2ATM, this would make it the only color touchscreen smartwatch in the world with such a rating. Or to put it another way, it could be manufactured to be the first color touchscreen smartwatch in the world that you can go swimming and snorkeling with. But if watch designers were designing all the smartwatch cases, this would not be the situation.
A thank you to Laurent Le Pen of Omate for providing the Roma prototype.
This is in no way an endorsement of Omate, or the Roma. It was just only the only smartwatch in my collection that didn't use a completely garbage case design. This is to show that smartwatches can be much better than what we are getting, and in most cases, they are full of unrealized potential.

Part two of my ongoing modified Roma work. This time it's what most (smart)watch makers and wearers will tell you never ever do.
Modified Omate Roma submerged button test
The PCB and battery were removed, and the case packed with cotton. The cotton has two purposes. One is to show any intrusion of water. The other is to adsorb the water to reduce the risk of damage.
I didn't have a 5 gallon bucket or larger so the test was done in only a couple inches of water. I have no way to record the test during swimming at a reasonable depth so that option was out. That, and I can't talk underwater.
Now a very few smartwatches may pass this type of test, but I strongly suggest you don't try it.
At this point I'm nervous to do higher pressure testing (3-5ATM / 99-165ft). I don't know what the fracture point is of the crystal and I'd like not to kill it.

Part Three: But these go to eleven.
2ATM (20m/66ft) Naturalist Model Submersion Test
*So after having a tank fail, multiple camera issues I gave up and just made a timelapse of the last 8hrs of a 10hr test. This will be a temp vid until I can figure out what the issue is with the camera.
Multiple hour submersion test. Changes from previous tests;
Different gasket material
2ATM (20m/66ft) (up from 1ATM in previous test)
Placed smartwatch in water then pressurized the chamber
The third item is key. This is a direct simulation of real world exposure. Either way, the modifications I have made have already put the watch well beyond any touchscreen smartwatch and into the shallow end (pun intended) of traditional watch water resistance territory.
Results:
I had opened the smartwatch every time I had to stop the test and did not properly seal it. From a traditional watch standpoint this is a big no-no. However, after multiple 3-4hrs immersions at pressure, the inside was bone dry. As you can see in the time lapse, the pump was attached the whole time for the longer test. I did not remove the pump fast enough at the end causing a rapid decompression. This may have resulted in water intrusion at the very end as the cotton pad inside the watch showed signs of water intrusion.
Conclusion:
Inconclusive for time periods beyond 3-4hrs of immersion and needs to be rerun. Still, no water intrusion at the 3-4hr mark on multiple occasions, not many smartwatches can say that.

Looks like part four will be redoing part three after getting the recording issues resolved. Still 3-4hrs at 2ATM (20m/66ft) with no water ingress is nothing to laugh at.

I have not been able to resolve the long video issues, so no video yet again.
So it did not pass at 2.5 ATM. I dropped the pressure to 1.25ATM (ISO requirement for certification at 1ATM), and let it stay continuously immersed at pressure for 20hrs.
BONE DRY
What's the next step? Do another timelapse at pressure while the smartwatch is on. I've been feeling pretty rough for the past couple days. With taking care of a little one, getting stuff ready for my move, and the testing, I'm beat and will probably not do another extended test. It will most likely be a short couple hour test. Even with such a short test, it sets the bar pretty high.

Part Four : I told you so but you didn't listen
Powered Immersion Test
While not a long duration test, this is four times longer than the 30min IP tests done on Motorola ,Samsung ,LG and almost all others, at a depth equivalent that is ten times greater. Or about seven times that of a Sony SW3.
Pressure : Slightly over 1ATM (10m/33ft)
Duration : 2hr 4m
Result : Still functioning
Original Functionality: Intact
So my questions to smartwatch manufacturers and users is this. If one guy, with all the wrong tools, no technical training in the field, and no budget, do this for pennies, why can't they? Why won't they? And why on Earth are you, the person that spent your hard earned money on your smartwatch, putting up with it?
Also. A public challenge goes out to Apple Watch owners to meet, or beat, 2hrs at 1ATM and still have a functional smartwatch. Make that any color touchscreen smartwatch owner except the Timex Ironman One GPS. It can do 50m but is hardly what one could consider a watch.
Again. This is not an endorsement of this smartwatch, or any smartwatch for that matter. This shows part of what I've been saying for almost two years about smartwatches and their design.

The next major project will have to wait til after the move (it's a money thing ,that being that I'm broke). That being a 200m dive rated color touchscreen smartwatch. I do have one more mod planned for this one but that's a private project for ODM/OEM partnerships should they happen.

No.1 Sun S2 Smart Watch Review by mark2410

No.1 Sun S2 Smart Watch Review
Thanks to GearBest for the sample
First Impressions: Having already had a “first look” at the device, that being a read up online all about the thing, I had a fair idea of what was coming. The box seems alright, nothing too fancy. Inside there we have the watch. It looks nice in the flesh. Though I’m still not sure I love the triangular pattern round the edge, feels like it’s there just to make it look more watch like. Mind you given how often I smack the face of my other watches off of things maybe it’s there and so raised to act as a defensive measure?
Picking it up I rather like it. I like metal bands and while I’ve seen reviews say its strap feels so light and cheap I can’t say I agree. Maybe normal watch straps are made of lead but to me it feels nicely weighted. Very flexible too, I like very much. I have never loved tightly fitting watches, I like them a little loose on the wrist and with this I can. Don’t think the heart rate thing will like that but how often will I use that?
Specifications: Built-in chip type: MT6260, Bluetooth version: Bluetooth 3.0, Waterproof Rating: IP67, Health tracker: Pedometer, Heart rate monitor, Alert type: Ring, Vibration, Screen: LED, Screen resolution: 240 x 240 px, Screen size: 1.33 inch, Camera pixel: 0.3MP, Battery capacity: 350mAh, Standby time: About 90 hours, Product weight: 0.120 kg
Actually there are tons of more details in the full spec list but I’ve skimmed to the bits that I think matter. Some spec too are variable, like the band material. My one is metal, silvery metal but you can get black too or leather of varying colours. The bands are actually standard watch straps so you can change it for anything you want. You hear that Motorola, Sony!!!! Standard bloody watch straps! So if you don’t like the strap or just feel like a change you can use anything you like and you shouldn’t have any trouble doing so.
Screen: The screen is pretty nice. It does do the Moto 360 “flat tyre” thing. You know where the bottom of the round screen has a black flat cut off at the bottom. For the most part this doesn’t really bother me as I’m used to it but….. when you use a round dial its really noticeable that 6 is missing and the faces all seem to pretend that the bottom is there. I don’t know why, the 360 does this too, just acts like it’s there when it’s not. Otherwise though the screen is pretty damn good. I was expecting poo viewing angles give the low cost but it’s actually really wide. It’s not perfect but its works great all the way to angles you would never encounter in the real world. It can get rather bright too. I’m really impressed for the price.
UI: This if anywhere is where things drop. The UI is not Android Wear. The UI is a proprietary thing I think made by Mediatek. While China has absolutely got hardware nailed I cannot say the same in regards to software. It all works, functionally but it can be odd. Like there is just 3 fascia’s for the watch. The white backed one I don’t like as the flat tyre is so noticeable. The two black ones, one having silvery typeface and the other goldish. Now it so happens I really quite like the silvery one so I was happy to use it but I could find no way to add any more options. Then when you go past that first face you are greeted with a digital, in yellow with a call button and a message button below it. You cannot change this screen and it’s different from the one in the photos, the one it the photos doesn’t seem to exist anywhere which I found really odd. The UI on the whole is quirky, once you start delving into menu’s you often feel a bit lost. Now you’ll hardly ever do it but you know. The rest of the functions, there are all fairly easily accessed. Somethings on there though, I don’t get. Like what use is the video playback app or the video recording when the storage space is so super tiny? Like I said, quirky but for the most part it’s pretty simple.
Features: The Sun 2 has a couple of really unusual bits. Now you see how the face looks like a watch and it has the little dial on the side where you would either wind it up or set the time? Well obviously you do neither with it, so you may wonder what it’s for, just decorative? Hell no, that thing is a camera!!! Yes you read that right, a camera. Granted it’s a low quality, 0.3 mega pixel camera but the 10 year old in me thinks it’s kinda awesome. Come on a real camera in your watch, that is some James Bond type gadgetry right there!!! Oh and you know what else!?!?!? The damn thing has a speaker and a microphone built in so it can initiate and receive calls, on the watch!!! Now I get you may look weird taking a call on your watch but…… come on, that is so James Bond. I can tell you if I was 10 and had this thing I would be ecstatic. As a grown up, I love the idea but I think I might feel too self-conscious to use in public.
Weirdly you can also use the watch to playback music on from your phone. I don’t know why you would chose to do this. I hoped I could use the watch as a remote control for audio being streamed to a Bluetooth pair of headphones but the Sun 2 and the headphones (Blueudio T2S) refused to be both connected to the phone (Moto G) at the same time.
Where you can use the watch as a remote control though is for your phones camera. It’s a little bit odd, there is no live transmission so you can’t see on the watch what your about to snap on the phone. Still it’s kinda cool that you can. I’m not quite sure what you’d do with it, maybe some more James Bond spying perhaps?
The other features that you may want to make use of are the health stuff. Now things like the pedometer it seemed to act more like a stopwatch than being some background, always monitoring feature. Same for the sleep monitor and sedentary reminder. So I don’t know if it was me missing something but they just seemed realistically of minimal use. The “Heart Rate” and ECG apps seem to be pretty much the same thing. They don’t continually monitor but if you’re interested in your heart rate they will tell you. I found it be really very accurate too.
Build Quality: It feels rather solid. Now it doesn’t exude luxury it doesn’t look or feel like a piece of jewellery. It feels like a man’s watch. Some plain stainless steel, polished on the face, brushed on the band. It’s a pleasant, plain, functional object. It appeals to my sense of the functionally aesthetic. Well bar that triangular bevelling, I still have mixed feelings about that. It feels like decoration for decorations sake. The rest of the thing looks fairly chunky, functional, and manly. You can barely see them unless you take the watch off but near the strap attachments and the underside you can see that its screwed together. I like that.
Usability: Well it depends what you want to do. If you’re happy to pair it up, just let it notify you of calls and texts you’re golden. It does this very ably. If you want to start doing things on the watch, like initiate a call or god forbid send a text, not so much. The round screen is a pain and to make things more awkward the big bevelled facia makes it hard to hit things near the edges. It sadly is awkward to do much more than hit the answer button or to acknowledge the notification of something. Stick to the basics, which is what I really want a watch for anyway, you cannot over estimate how handy a vibrating notification on your wrist is in my opinion. In these days of giant phones, leaving your phone on your desk or pocket means you might miss the vibration but when it’s on your wrist, you notice.
Battery: The battery life I found to be quite variable. I had the thing set to light up with a flick of a wrist. It would seem that while sleeping some nights I did this a lot and others not so much. Therefore sometimes the battery would last nearly 3 days others it would be dead in the morning when I went to use it. You should really just get in the habit of charging it overnight anyway. Like you do with your phone, it’s what I would have done normally if I wasn’t specifically reviewing to see how long it would last.
What was more of an issue I found was the charging dock. It is a little dock that magnetically clamps to the underside of the watch. The thing is it didn’t always seem to quite get the contacts lined up. More than once I put it to charge and sever hours later I discovered it hadn’t been. That got really annoying, if it just had some light or something to let you instantly see if it’s charging or not would have solved this. There is not, if you want to see you have at wake it up and see if the battery meter is animating.
Connectivity: I’ve seen people say they have had issues connecting different smart watches to their phones, so this category is here but I can’t say I did. There is some issue with the variety of apps available. Having the latest “Meditek SmartDevice” app it paired saw each other and worked just fine. Its range seemed more sensitive than my android wear watches, if I left the phone and wandered to the other side of the flat it would start ringing and vibrating to let me the Bluetooth connection had been lost. When I wandered back it reconnected automatically. That is with multiple devices all over the place too.
Value: Ahh value, there is no getting around the headline fact that as “smartwatches” go this is cheap, hell’a cheap. Right now it’s for sale, with a little Xiaomi LED light thrown in, for US$63 or with the handy discount code GBSS2 its US$54. At present exchange rates that’s just £35. So £35, with the cool wee light and delivered to your door. So that’s pushing one tenth of what an Apple watch would cost you. While I found the Sun 2 more limited and a little quirky, if what you want, the most important aspect for a smart watch for me, the notifications right there on your wrist. You feel it vibrate where you rarely feel your phone in your pocket and you can glance to see if it’s worth bothering to dig your phone out. With phones getting stupid big this matters ever more. Tbh even if you just use it for a watch, it’s still kinda bargain priced.
Conclusion: So I have 6 different “wearables” in arms reach right now. Yes I have issues, I know. You know you can never really judge an item on its own without having some other thing to compare it to. You know, your mothers Victora Sponge is cake and all cake is nice, then you have a big slice of Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte that’s had a generous drizzling of Kirsch. One is good, one is to die for. The Sun 2 then, it falls into the first category. It isn’t a device that will wow you, change the way you look at existence, have you pondering in awe of the miracle that is human creativity. The Sun 2 is a good product, a solid product that has a clearly defined parameter of functionality.
The Sun 2 is about just a few things, telling you the time, looking like a proper watch and notifying you of people trying to reach you. Both calls and text notifications come through perfectly. Its functionality that my long vanished, ancient Sonyericsson MBW-100 that I so loved, provided. The Sun 2 replicates those functions admirably and throws in some little extras. Most of those extras are things you probably won’t use. Like the camera, it’s a super cool novelty but not actually useful. It’s just a cool little gadget.
Would I buy one, I dunno. I’ve gotten used to my Android Wear watches that do lots more but then they cost a lot more too. This therefore I see appealing to the young, seriously 10 year old me would have freekin’ loved this thing beyond belief. The other group being those who want the notifications in a reasonably looking package. To both those groups it suffices perfectly. It also is a really cost effective way to see if you can get used to wearing a watch but mostly I see it being for those who are forever not noticing calls and texts. When something strapped to your wrist vibrates, you notice it. It is that simple. So do you think you fall in to those categories? If so it’s a nice, functional, pleasant, watch looking way to get that without having to throw down considerably more money.
Photos i tried to add but it wouldnt let me, no idea why. however if you want to see them they are all in here http://www.mobiletechtalk.co.uk/no-1-sun-s2-smart-watch-review/

No.1 Sun S2 Smart Watch Quick Review
Thanks to GearBest for the sample
Brief: Bargain Bond watch.
Price: US$63 but with code GBSS2 US$54 ( so about £35)
Specification: Built-in chip type: MT6260, Bluetooth version: Bluetooth 3.0, Waterproof Rating: IP67, Health tracker: Pedometer, Heart rate monitor, Alert type: Ring, Vibration, Screen: LED, Screen resolution: 240 x 240 px, Screen size: 1.33 inch, Camera pixel: 0.3MP, Battery capacity: 350mAh, Standby time: About 90 hours, Product weight: 0.120 kg
Accessories: It comes with its little dock/charger and a micro USB cable to link it to a USB socket.
Build Quality: It feels very sturdy, chunky, and functional. I’ve seen people say its band feels really light but I don’t think it is, not in the least. It’s all rather weighty and solid.
Comfort/Fit: Great. I like metal banded watches and I like them to sit loose on my wrist. If you like more snug you can remove links or just change bands. Oh or you could pick it with the leather and not metal band.
Aesthetics: I mostly like it. It comes is several options so you chose what you like most I guess but that triangular bevelling still looks a bit flashy to me. I kinda think I might have preferred the black metal one, that being less reflective. It’s hard to say but it certainly gives you plenty of options.
UI: Hmm quirky. Works but I doubt you’ll use most of it. What use is the image viewer or file manager? Much of it seems rather superfluous to me.
Functionality: Where the Sun 2 excels is acting as a notifier for calls and texts, I regularly don’t notice my phone as I always keep it on vibrate. Vibrating in my pocket isn’t something I always notice but you do when something strapped to your wrist vibrates and lights up. That is handy beyond words in my opinion. Also I have to mention the camera, super cool but not so functionally useful. I did though have an issue with the limited number of fascia’s available, just 3. That was bluntly disappointing and I couldn’t find any way to add more. Lastly you can use the watch to make calls, it’s got a mic and speaker built in, super cool but I’d feel super silly using it in public.
Battery: Variable. Screen on time hammers the battery so clearly in my sleep I would set it off and that slashed the battery life. Though if you take it off at night you’ll easily get a few days out of it.
Connectivity: Great. Would drop if I left the room with the phone but that’s what its supposed to do. Never had it give any problems.
Value: It is a bargain priced device. Sure it’s not got the functionality of Android Wear watches or the Apple watch but it’s just a sliver of their price tags. If all you really need is notifications then this will got the job done considerably more cheaply.
Pro’s: Bargain price tag. Chunky feel. Standard watch band fittings.
Con’s: UI is interesting. Limited fascia’s. Docking charger not always catching.

Product RAZER Phone 2 cooling controller grip 3D print - WIP

* MODS, IDK if this is the right location, or even belongs on XDA at all. Move or delete as you so choose.
Hey all,
Happy New Year!!!!!
I've been absent from XDA, especially the development side, for a loooooong time. But I wanted to share.
Well, I got a new RAZER phone 2 (black satin) and a 3D printer for the holidays, so I decided to learn how to use the 3D printer by making a cooling controller grip for the phone. (So I can kick even more ass in COD and PUBG, among others - lol)
Anywho, this is a work in progress, but I thought I'd share it to see what people think, especially since the xda RAZER 2 forums are basically a ghost town!
* Cools phone and hands (attatch a fan!)
* Made to have a 40x40x20mm fan inserted from the top, (40x40x10 ok, also)
* Ergonomic cooling design, game better - longer
* Helps keep you from rubbing on charge port while charging and gaming
* Motor can be connected to a canibalized USB or OTG cable for a phone powered fan, & theoretically turned on and off with a "stop charge" root app. Or a 9volt battery. Use your imagination.
* Designed for the volume buttons to be on the bottom.
* Front Facing Camera unhindered for twitch streaming
* Easier to grip one-handed while multimediaing
* Keeps speakers unhindered for better audio (your hand doesnt block or cover them while gaming-FPS' mostly, I suppose
* Access to power button (I dont use it, though. I use the tap feature to wake and sleep device.)
* May work with other cases, but it was speciffically designed to fit the phone WITH a TUDIA case ON. (It's a great case)
* Made to fit the vast majority of Ebay/Amazon mobile triggers
* Its my first 3D design/print/mod, so be constructive, not rude.
* Pics below from early test version printed in low quality, neither sanded nor prepped
* Original design from thingverse user glang25, but it's heavily modded for our device.
* Licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution license.
I know, I went a bit crazy with the RAZER logos, but I do adore this new phone!

V1.4
*initial "release"
should fit a 40x40x10 fan.
Next version will support my preferred 40x40x20 fan.
V1.5
Model is bugged, currently reworking it
V2
Major rework of structure points.
Now fits up to 40x40x20mm fan
Minor adjusments to make phone fit better
Slight adjustments to the controller/grip shape
Pictures of unprepped low quality print of V2, in black, w/fan and phone, added below
Future hopes/wish list:
* Fit in a ON/OFF switch.
* Add USB rechargeable battery that can somehow charge the phone also.
* Add a "kickstand"
* Make Camera more accessible, specifcally for ARCore (Augmented Reality) gameplay.
* Design and implement built in 3D printed Ebay/Amazon style mobile triggers
* Add air vents to cool screen, also
* ??
* Future hopes/wish list items are not promised. Nor is future development/modding.
Ive included the .STL file for you to 3D print, if you so choose. Just let us all know you did, give recognition &....maybe post picks?? Its sandable and paintable!
Mod it all you want!
Design is offered as is, with no promises nor liability implied.
PRINTING NOTES/PRINTER SETTINGS
Printed with: Ender 5
Slicing program: Creality Slicer 1.2.3
Rafts: Yes
Supports: Yes
Resolution: 0.15 mm
Infill: 15%
Material Type: PLA (but you can use anything you like, really)
Material Amount: 46.18 meters, 138 grams
Print time: 16hrs 47 minutes
*licensed under the Creative Commons - Attribution license.

This is a interesting idea, but doesn't the RP2 dissipate heat thru the screen not the back?

hackthis02 said:
This is a interesting idea, but doesn't the RP2 dissipate heat thru the screen not the back?
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I assume it's from the back, as that's where the vapor chamber is. Also the pro case has vents on the back.
Saying that, I do notice the screen gets warm also. The phones aluminum frame seems to do a good job dissipating heat evenly. I might add a vent channel that hits the screen also.
Side note, just got the RAZER pro cooling case, AND will do tests. Might even adjust my print to fit it as the new case is actually thicker than the Tudia one. I use CPU float to check CPU, GPU and battery temps.
Also just got the Junglecat; currently messing with a better way to attach it to phone WITHOUT removing my cooling case and using that heat trapping Chroma blocking flimsy Junglecat one.
I've also made a landscape phone holder that can have your own qi coils placed inside. It's strong but very thin so I get maximum wireless charge. It still allows the Junglecat, while attached to phone, to wireless charge.
I printed mine clear, so that my Chroma lights up the whole dock at night
Curious if anyone is interested in those. (Junglecat one still being worked on.) - FINISHED!
To the users who voted "NOT INTERESTED" and "NOT READY YET"
Have any suggestions, or constructive criticism? I know this design isn't for everyone, but any thoughts?