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Basically I'm interested in purchasing one of the cheaper tablets on the market for my sister, I want to optimize it before giving it to her as a gift.
The main interest for me is whether I can use the mods used for the G1.
Although they are both different I'm wondering because they both use Stock Android 1.6 whether everything on here will work fine on the Tablet.
The Tablet itself is a Elonex eTouch
http://direct.asda.com/Elonex-eTouc...usic-–-10gb-storage/000504956,default,pd.html
The Important Specs comparison that I can find are:
G1: Screen 320X480 pixel
Tablet: 800X480
G1: Memory 128MB RAM
Tablet: 192MB RAM
G1: Micro-SD Slot
Tablet: Micro-SD Slot (Important for installing apps?)
G1: CPU-528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor
Tablet: ARM LNX Code 9 Processor
Okay so before anyone replies I'm thinking that the root won't be compatible. I was an avid Windows Mobile fan (SE X1 etc) and its time for me to jump ship to Android. Although the root in theory shouldn't be compatible due to different phones/tablets, but because the specs are similar it could work?
Also there is a higher spec version Tablet also available at Asda (UK's Walmart) that includes-
* Android 2.1
* Higher Resolution screen 1024X600
* Larger screen
* Higher Ram 256MB
* And a 1GHZ Processor
http://direct.asda.com/Elonex-eTouc...-Music-10gb-storage/000505981,default,pd.html
Anyway If I've gotten this all wrong and you can't root the tablet does anyone have any ideas? For those -like me- who buy cheaper unknown tablets but due to lack of support find it hard to use XDA.
Thanks
Hello all
I have the tablet pc which the local brand, currently there is having the window7 os install on the tablet, and I preferred to install android os on it, I don't know my spec are suitable for the install or not, below is my spec of my tablet.
Processor
CPU Intel Atom N450 (1.66 GHz)
Graphic system
Graphic Chip Intel GMA 3150
Display Type Multi-Touch Screen 11.6 inch (1366 ? 768)
Main Memory Memory 1 GB
Hard Disk Drive Hard Disk 64 GB
Web Camera Details 1.3 Pixel
Port & Interface USB 2
Card Reader SD Card
Audio Out 3.5
VDO Out Mini HDMI
Connection
Wireless Lan WiFi 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth yes
Battery Type
Lithium-ion 7.4V,5000mAh
Life -Size
Size
295 x 195 x 14
Please let me know if I can change OS to android and how I do
Thank you
Arty
Short answer, no.
Not only would you need all the correct drivers for wifi, bluetooth, touch, etc..., but if you did happen to have those, your processor works on the x86 platform, and android is made to be used on the ARM architecture. Sorry.
^ Not completely correct. There ARE versions of Android that run on x86 architecture; Acer do some netbooks with an Android/Windows dual install as do other PC manufacturers. OP will have to search for them though, and he WILL have driver issues.
Basically, if OP wanted an Android tablet, then OP should have bought an Android tablet.
Thank you for the answer, I just would like to know.
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^ Not completely correct. There ARE versions of Android that run on x86 architecture; Acer do some netbooks with an Android/Windows dual install as do other PC manufacturers. OP will have to search for them though, and he WILL have driver issues.
Basically, if OP wanted an Android tablet, then OP should have bought an Android tablet.
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+1 on the option to install android on a windows device. Although it's not common, it has been known to be accomplished, especially on an HTC device for example, as they have done this to 1 or 2 phones.
The big issue, is to find a dev that has managed to do this. And considering you have a "generic", no name tablet, I suspect there would not be a high interest in this. Especially now, when there are several low cost tablets to exploit, and the release of the source for ICS.
Shouldn't knock a person for buying a windows tab. At least it's a tab And... it ain't an Ipad
Heck, my wife yesterday, said she wanted a new ph for her birthday.... A Mozart 7!!!!!!!!
Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Hello XDA! Greetings from Berlin. :highfive:
My name is Johann I'm a Berlin based Electronics Engineer.
You may be wondering why I'm posting here... Right? Well... I'm building my big dream... The fastest ever Android QuadCore tablet based on an Exynos SOC. Yes, the 4412.
Is there anybody here who wants to give me some suggestions?
From now on, my team and I have successfully integrated the SOC, a GPS + BT module, and, an HD Screen.
What would you like to see on a tablet?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Isn't that essentially the Note 10.1?
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Mmm... Yes... but the size of the screen will be 8" or 9.7", and, we're building it to never exceed the 159USD as our target price on Bill Of Materials Any suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks for writing!
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Well first let me say this is the coolest thing i've seen on here, i know nothing about phone/tablet hardware but i know a LOT about computer hardware, since this is a tablet would a laptop GPU work in it? Also if possible you should try and take a 4G antenna from another tablet and put it in here, Also could you give us detailed specs? Like the PPI and such of the screen?
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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Hi PantechBurstOwner
That's a good idea. We've been researching about the 4G module, and, actually testing it.
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
For the 4G modem, the main challange is to find a module thin enough to fit on the casing. On the picture attached you can see the left prototype has 3G module in (A 4G one will fit too), and, the right one is much thinner, and, a 4G module doesn't fit
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I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
PantechBurstOwner said:
I think the dimensions of the nexus 7 is prefect, yours looks a bit more like kindle fire HD, personally not a fan of it but I'd still use it . Also what are your plans for the speakers and GPU?
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
Cyanogenmod would be great, if it's smaller though (think 7 inches) think Paranoid Android.
What would really differentiate it, would be if you already had a dual boot preinstalled on it with a little taste of everything. i.e. MIUI, CM10, and one more ultra customizable ROM (I suppose CM10) with themes that could be applied straight through the software. I understand this would probably be a pain to do, but it would make your tablet the MOST versatile tablet out there.
Also, consider like Asus, you may want to consider shoving a port on the bottom for a keyboard dock. Big fan of keyboards...
(Yes I understand I'm practically spamming you with ideas and not many of them are possible, nonetheless, lots of ideas are better than none... no?)
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Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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some magical custom firmware with an awesome name, also whats the specs on the battery?
JSchlossstein said:
Thanks for the comments. For the GPU it'll be the ARM's Mali400 MP (4 Cores Version), the same being used by the Galaxy S3. The CPU will be clocked at 1.6GHZ, so it'll be smooth.
Now we're thinking about the Firmware, as our prototype is now running on Stock Android, but my idea is to do something more impressive.
Which firmware would you love to see running on it? Cyanogen?
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Would you consider a proposal to the cyanogenmod team? It'll be nice to see a highly customizable stock firmware on a tablet..
Big +1
Ain't using separate 4G module too expensive? I don't think there should be any problem in fitting it onboard if you integrate it into one PCB design.
I'd like to see all unused cpu I/Os breaked out into set of pads onboard and documented, like UART, second USB port, I2C bus, FIMC interfaces and so on.
Also, don't get me wrong but if this project doesn't get realised (I really wish it does) - please publish non-NDA documentation. :]
MicroSD, maybe a USB port (unless it's too thick). Sounds pretty siiiick
This goes straight to my Christmas wish list!
But instead of a crippled Cyanogenmod I'd rather see dual-booting to Ubuntu and perhaps some Linaro builds. Staying close to Samsung SGS3 stock, may be a good idea for compatibility issues.
USB3 + HDMI + Front-facing Cam + JTAG over USB support (1149.7, NIDnT) + possibly UART HW debug
But perhaps more importantly, everything should be easily accessible from outside your platform so we can help hacking it back into shape when something goes wrong! Second, make sure we can freely mess with the boot configuration... I'd be happy to help sponsoring the low profile SMT DIP switch for boot config.
If you have space problems you should seriously consider using a quad-core (Krait) Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960T) PoP SoC instead. Because if not, you'll need external modem support. So in your current configuration, what modem are you using? If you use the Intel XMM6260 you'll need a lot more support components, AFAICT, unless their new flagship (XMM7160) has managed even more integration somehow.
Good Luck!
so how long does the battery last? like how many mah or whatever it is lol also what would be cool is dual booting instead of ubuntu dual boot to windows 8, also a built in stand=somuchwin
Exynos 4 going to be outdated soon.
Regardless, I hope this tablet sees the light of day. A tablet that lets you easily install custom ROMs by default has been long overdue.
(Or, yes, an ubuntu tablet, though I'm not sure if even A15 would be fast enough.)
NFC, it HAS TO HAVE NFC dont build it into the back cover, if i were to get this i would paint the back and throw some LED's in it, i cant do that with my nexus 7
Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
Well, this is a great idea First I would consider not using 4G if you don't want to go in an expensive way... I would also consider using Stock Android ROM for the fans out there (like for example with the G Nexus) Processor you can use the powerful one from the Galaxy Note 10.1, but I also like tegra processors.
Subscribing to this thread!
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Edit: what processor is this?!!!!! http://gyazo.com/b8e91207a4115e1c91b2d0164c52cbc1
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It's the "latest" ST-Ericsson NovaThor LP9600 (aka Nova A9600)!
2.5GHz, 28 nm Technology. Dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, Multi-layer AHB/AXI bus, ARM TrustZone, ARM NEON SIMD engine, dual-channel LP-DDR2 SD RAM interface, 1080p HDMI, Rogue GPU, 1080p video encode, 1080p video decode, 3D HD video capture and display, QXGA display support, Dual camera support up to 20 Mpixel and 5 Mpixel, USB 2.0
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But because of ST-Ericssons financial troubles, it's unlikely we'll see any full scale production of this chip within the next 6 months...if ever.
What about screen?
JSchlossstein said:
The screen we're testing now is an HD 1024x768px, this one is a normal IPS screen (132PPI from LG), but there's a better one comming. I'll update as soon as it arrives here.
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That's the screen currently its like 8 or 9.7" and he said make suggestions if you can lol
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Jolla will be announcing a new phone, you may have heard of this, will be announced tomorrow (20/05/13 at 4:30pm GMT), here is a live stream to the event I found from the Jolla official twitter account. #IAmTheOtherHalf
From what I have heard the screen will be no larger than 5" in size, and will likely get a physical slide out qwerty keyboard, don't quote me on this, just from research, that is all I found
It's 5/20 not 5/13. The only thing we know is Engadget guessed it was 5 inches from when Marc partially took it out of his pocket.
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It's 5/20 not 5/13. The only thing we know is Engadget guessed it was 5 inches from when Marc partially took it out of his pocket.
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some people in different countries represent the date in different ways, I did day/month/year as I am from UK.
UPDATE:
4.5" screen (unknown resolution at this time, known to be HD so either 720p or 1080p
dual core processor (unknown clock speed)
unknown RAM
unknown GPU
8mp AF camera
seems to have a front facing camera of unknown mp count.
replaceable battery
4G (LTE)
16GB + microsd card expandability
unknown battery size/life
(All specs quoted from jolla website)
disappointed that it is not quad core but as the OS is based on C++, efficiency will be much better than Android, providing the RAM is of decent size and the GPU is good, it shouldn't make that much difference speed wise, also doesn't seem to have a qwerty keyboard (only reason why I thought it would is that, one of the guys at Jolla in an interview, stated that more phones should have a physical qwerty keyboard.)
i am waiting for jolla :laugh:
nh1402 said:
some people in different countries represent the date in different ways, I did day/month/year as I am from UK.
UPDATE:
4.5" screen (unknown resolution at this time, known to be HD so either 720p or 1080p
dual core processor (unknown clock speed)
unknown RAM
unknown GPU
8mp AF camera
seems to have a front facing camera of unknown mp count.
replaceable battery
4G (LTE)
16GB + microsd card expandability
unknown battery size/life
(All specs quoted from jolla website)
disappointed that it is not quad core but as the OS is based on C++, efficiency will be much better than Android, providing the RAM is of decent size and the GPU is good, it shouldn't make that much difference speed wise, also doesn't seem to have a qwerty keyboard (only reason why I thought it would is that, one of the guys at Jolla in an interview, stated that more phones should have a physical qwerty keyboard.)
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Quad core doesn't really matter in Android as the OS itself currently only supports 2, apps have to specifically use the extra cores, and only a few games do. I believe KLP is supposed to change that to "N" cores (along with full Intel support). Because Android used a VM, it is RAM that makes the biggest difference. That is why iOS and WP7/8 are so smooth with much lower RAM than Android.
I have read, and anyone can correct me on this, that KLP is the start of moving away from Dalvik and will support ARM and x86 natively with fat binaries. This is the rumour why KLP was not released at I/O, because they are re-writing the OS as native.
As you mentioned, Sailfish is a native OS, it won't need as high of specs as Android, which also means cheaper phones (in theory).
I was just saying future proof wise, if their OS supports Quad-Core, and they provide one in their first phone, they could just stick with this phone for a while, as it wouldn't need to be updated yearly, to keep with the competition. The phone as of the last time I checked had the equivalent price of £350, which is more than a Nexus 4, and yet that has a quad core processor, I have mentioned that to Jolla via their support page, and will be releasing more details as the release date gets closer, the main thing that was a huge turn off for me was not the Quad Core processor as much but the MASSIVE Bezel around the 4.5" screen, but then found out that the final design of the phone will have a smaller bezel, as mentioned by the lead designer at Jolla.
If they want anyone to buy their phone, it just has to be cheaper. Nokia made pretty good inroads with their Lumia devices by making them very inexpensive (and often free) on contract. Windows Phone is now at 5% market share, and it is almost entirely Lumia devices. With Jolla being former Nokia people, hopefully they will understand this instead of making the mistake Palm did with the Prē
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Hi.
My elderly mom gets lost in her Windows PC, but does OK on her Android tablet. I'm looking for a high-powered Android box to replace the Windows PC, doing mostly Skype and Mail/Web/FB/News. That rules out the mainstream Amlogic-based boxes (weak CPU, low RAM), but I'm worried the RK3399 boxes are marginal/amateurish/not well supported. The plan is to make the UI the exact same as her tablet, with the extra comfort of a mouse, big screen, and loud sound. She'll be doing he exact same things as on her tablet so I'm unbothered by Android/Desktop limitations. Skype support (so, no ChromeOS) and reliability/dependability are a must.
The Vorke Z3 has disappeared. Does anyone have feedback on the Cloudnetgo CR19 or the CSA96 ? Or at least their OEMs ?
Thanks for any help/advice.
Olivier
I agree, the CDR19 looks great. 4 x USB + SATA + external antenna, plus extra audio ports and front display.
$150-$200. I am tempted.
However what about the limitations I keep reading about RockChip? No one actually specifies what these are, and all my online searches reveal nothing, except old pre-2015 reviews of older architecture.
So what do you do? S912 DDR4 3GB? or RK3399 DDR3 4GB?
I got the $80 H96 max. It works OK as a PC once you switch Launchers (for some reason only MS launcher will install, no Nova, Google..).
The one limitation I ran into was DRM support; not an issue for PC use, but I'd avoid it as a media player/HTPC.
Performance, reliability, features are otherwise fine.
I got this one it works great as a pc/tablet or tv box it runs well with a 2.4ghz keyboard and mouse
4GB RAM 32GB RK3328 MXR PRO Android 7.1.1 Smart TV Box Quad Core 2.4GHz WiFi VP9 H.265 3D HDMI USB3.0 MXRpro HDR 4K Media Player
http://s.aliexpress.com/Zfy26R7n?fromSns=Copy
Or you can try remix os for pc's
http://www.jide.com/remixos
how much is your target price for rk3399 4GB android box?
how much is your target price for rk3399 4GB android box?
obarthelemy said:
Hi.
My elderly mom gets lost in her Windows PC, but does OK on her Android tablet. I'm looking for a high-powered Android box to replace the Windows PC, doing mostly Skype and Mail/Web/FB/News. That rules out the mainstream Amlogic-based boxes (weak CPU, low RAM), but I'm worried the RK3399 boxes are marginal/amateurish/not well supported. The plan is to make the UI the exact same as her tablet, with the extra comfort of a mouse, big screen, and loud sound. She'll be doing he exact same things as on her tablet so I'm unbothered by Android/Desktop limitations. Skype support (so, no ChromeOS) and reliability/dependability are a must.
The Vorke Z3 has disappeared. Does anyone have feedback on the Cloudnetgo CR19 or the CSA96 ? Or at least their OEMs ?
Thanks for any help/advice.
Olivier
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I got her https://www.geekbuying.com/item/H96-MAX-Rockchip-RK3399-Hexa-Core-64bit-4G-32G-4K-TV-BOX-379059.html after seeing it was the most mentioned on several forums. Once I replaced the default TV Launcher with a more normal one (strangely, only MS Launcher would install, most would bug out), she's happy with it, it's stable and runs the double-handful of apps she needs (Skype etc...). Got it on sale for $100-ish.
Go 912s, 905x2, or wait for the 922
Freaktab Com is your support local. Look for developers magendanz or superceleron.
This is a MUST! Support, support and support.
I have an n6 Max Buy magicsee, I love it ... yet it's the most unstable platform I have ever run!
The cloudnetgo is a dynamic promising device, I'd like to have one. Still supported minimal, don't do it. My little mecool m8s Pro with a magendanz custom ROM is a powerful fast extremely stable device. The pro L model comes with enhanced DRM abilities, meaningful high-def capability for streaming. I truly suggest you go look at the developers first. Look for the boxes I support. And you're better off to stay with an amlogic SOC, they just a wider and deeper support base. The amlogic S922 will be out shortly, and it'll be the best thing available oh, I am sure. Yet it will take awhile for support and custom roms to be available. That's my two cents, good luck