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Hey guys,
I am having a few bugs with the battery indicator on my Tegra Note 7. It is always freezing up at random percentages and does not give an accurate reading. For example it thinks it is at 81% right now, and if I were to reboot it it will only actually be at like, 40%. I was just wondering is this a bug with only my device? Or are other people experiencing the same thing? I'm at thempst recent OTA, but its something I've been experiencing since I first opened it.
Also, like many others have noted, when I updated to Android 4.4.2, the battery seems to drain A LOT faster. Like, its down 10 percent in 30 minutes on balanced battery. These bugs kind of make me want to refund it and buy an nexus 7 instead. I've only had the thing for about 3 days.
Quick update, I'm just about to do a battery calibration to see if this fixes the wrong reading issue. If not it may be a hardware defect.
JakeTheOneDude said:
Quick update, I'm just about to do a battery calibration to see if this fixes the wrong reading issue. If not it may be a hardware defect.
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That's weird, because ever since the latest OTA, my battery life has been stellar! Sitting in standby, it'll go literally a week without a charge, and during use it seems quite reasonable. I wonder if it's because I did a full factory reset after the update... I've had mine since launch, and after so many updates I figured it might be a good idea to do a full reset, and it cleared up a lot of my issues.
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That's weird, because ever since the latest OTA, my battery life has been stellar! Sitting in standby, it'll go literally a week without a charge, and during use it seems quite reasonable. I wonder if it's because I did a full factory reset after the update... I've had mine since launch, and after so many updates I figured it might be a good idea to do a full reset, and it cleared up a lot of my issues.
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That may be a good idea. The reading issue is something that has been going on since the first day I got it. I had to walk to the library to set it up with all my games and such, and the whole time (about two hours) I was there I thought I had a charge 57%. I went home and rebooted to realize the battery was actually only at 8%! Since the calibration, I haven't seen the issue as of yet, and the battery seems to be working a lot better. I may try a factory reset however because I am having a few unrelated touch screen issues and stylus issues.
Hello everyone!
So I have been having these battery issues since April security patch. the phone gets really warm to the touch even by doing the simplest of things like browsing and watching youtube. Android OS keeps the phone awake 80% of the time and I am only getting 2-3 hours of use throughout the day. Restored the phone to factory settings(fresh start, nothing restored) three days ago and still the same issue. Android OS drains the battery life even though I made sure that only google apps are installed on the phone.
But today things got even weirder. I disabled Google Now and location services as a test and the battery drain and heat issues were gone temporarily. I was getting a great battery performance from morning to afternoon. I check my battery stats and I notice that Google services mysteriously drained 17% of my battery life and that it's been running for 21 days straight? That's impossible since I just did a fresh reset to the phone three days ago. I rebooted the phone and that "Google services" drain changed to WiFi instead?! That's crazy!
I contacted Google store support team and they have been really helpful so far. They offered to replace the phone with a refurbished unit, but I don't think I am ready to give up on this phone just yet.
Thank you!
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Hello everyone!
So I have been having these battery issues since April security patch. the phone gets really warm to the touch even by doing the simplest of things like browsing and watching youtube. Android OS keeps the phone awake 80% of the time and I am only getting 2-3 hours of use throughout the day. Restored the phone to factory settings(fresh start, nothing restored) three days ago and still the same issue. Android OS drains the battery life even though I made sure that only google apps are installed on the phone.
But today things got even weirder. I disabled Google Now and location services as a test and the battery drain and heat issues were gone temporarily. I was getting a great battery performance from morning to afternoon. I check my battery stats and I notice that Google services mysteriously drained 17% of my battery life and that it's been running for 21 days straight? That's impossible since I just did a fresh reset to the phone three days ago. I rebooted the phone and that "Google services" drain changed to WiFi instead?! That's crazy!
I contacted Google store support team and they have been really helpful so far. They offered to replace the phone with a refurbished unit, but I don't think I am ready to give up on this phone just yet.
Thank you!
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I hate to recommend this, but sometimes things go out of wack after a SW update, so a hard reset would probably be needed. I would try that (just start from zero) before jumping into a refurbished phone that might have some other kind of issues. Have you tried a hard reset yet? I see that you did a fresh reset. Did you go through the recovery though? Not just the regular UI. I think it's better to clear cache, and every thing through the recovery (custom or stock).
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I hate to recommend this, but sometimes things go out of wack after a SW update, so a hard reset would probably be needed. I would try that (just start from zero) before jumping into a refurbished phone that might have some other kind of issues. Have you tried a hard reset yet? I see that you did a fresh reset. Did you go through the recovery though? Not just the regular UI. I think it's better to clear cache, and every thing through the recovery (custom or stock).
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I did it through recovery. I have cleared the cache and rebooted the phone several times the past few days. Nothing seems to help at all.
Turn off your google backup.
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I did it through recovery. I have cleared the cache and rebooted the phone several times the past few days. Nothing seems to help at all.
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Wow. Maybe a custom ROM might help? Have you tried that? That's the last thing I would do. Good luck!
Not recommended but I just flashed January vendor and ROM and that has helped my battery life. I. Believe it is the security updates that kill our battery.
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Not recommended but I just flashed January vendor and ROM and that has helped my battery life. I. Believe it is the security updates that kill our battery.
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Is it a widespread issue? Like I said in my post, I saw the decline ever since I got the April security update. The May patch actually managed to make things worse. There seems to be something hidden in the OS that it's draining the battery and causing the awake issues. I haven't tried rooting the device because I lack the experience to do so. I will probably look into it on these forums, but at this point I have tried everything.
Disabling Google now helped a lot and it exposed some sort of a glitch with the stock battery monitoring app. I am not sure if it's hardware or software, but it's certainly not normal. I am tempted to just replace it, but I am afraid that this issue will just plague the new one from Google. I am really disappointed How Google handles updates on this device. I always thought that stock android is most stable version of android, but the software on my old Xperia Z is actually more stable than this. It never had battery drain issues and standby battery life was always great. The battery life on Nexus 6P is actually worse than the Xperia Z even though that phone is 3 years old.
waelalzubieri said:
Is it a widespread issue? Like I said in my post, I saw the decline ever since I got the April security update. The May patch actually managed to make things worse. There seems to be something hidden in the OS that it's draining the battery and causing the awake issues. I haven't tried rooting the device because I lack the experience to do so. I will probably look into it on these forums, but at this point I have tried everything.
Disabling Google now helped a lot and it exposed some sort of a glitch with the stock battery monitoring app. I am not sure if it's hardware or software, but it's certainly not normal. I am tempted to just replace it, but I am afraid that this issue will just plague the new one from Google. I am really disappointed How Google handles updates on this device. I always thought that stock android is most stable version of android, but the software on my old Xperia Z is actually more stable than this. It never had battery drain issues and standby battery life was always great. The battery life on Nexus 6P is actually worse than the Xperia Z even though that phone is 3 years old.
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I've seen a lot of posts over the months with people having the same problem we are. I came from a mid range LG stylo with a snapdragon 610. I would have 8 hours screen on time daily. Its sad that goggle cant get the same out of their own hardware. Also I have seen that the Note 5 and S7 Edge both get better battery life as opposed to our stock phones. For as much as people praise stock and look down on Touchwiz, they are doing something right over there.
But it doesn't affect everyone and that what puzzles me. Only certain phones are hit by these issues, while other people are getting excellent battery life. I have seen plenty of people post screenshots of 6 hours+ of on screen time. I am lucky to get 3 hours. I think Google should really invest in creating a better power management system into Android. Companies like Sony and Samsung built their own and the battery life on their devices always perform predictably relative to what I am seeing on this phone. I have never witnessed The doze feature kick in since I have bought this phone. Sony had stamina mode since 2013 and it actually worked.
waelalzubieri said:
But it doesn't affect everyone and that what puzzles me. Only certain phones are hit by these issues, while other people are getting excellent battery life. I have seen plenty of people post screenshots of 6 hours+ of on screen time. I am lucky to get 3 hours. I think Google should really invest in creating a better power management system into Android. Companies like Sony and Samsung built their own and the battery life on their devices always perform predictably relative to what I am seeing on this phone. I have never witnessed The doze feature kick in since I have bought this phone. Sony had stamina mode since 2013 and it actually worked.
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Most of those people posting those outrageous number root and do kernel tweaks. I've gotten at most 6 hours SOT on stock without root. You are right our phones do all react differently to certain circumstances. I don't know if it's feasible to you ,but you should try rooting and trying out a few Roms some help others don't. If you aren't into Roms and decide to root try earlier vendors and stock roms and see it those work. I'm not an expert by any means just my suggestions.
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Most of those people posting those outrageous number root and do kernel tweaks. I've gotten at most 6 hours SOT on stock without root. You are right our phones do all react differently to certain circumstances. I don't know if it's feasible to you ,but you should try rooting and trying out a few Roms some help others don't. If you aren't into Roms and decide to root try earlier vendors and stock roms and see it those work. I'm not an expert by any means just my suggestions.
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Well, the fact that you are having great battery life proves my point. It's either that the quality control of the batteries used on these phones are terrible, or that the software or kernel are corrupted from factory causing these issues. There is no way to fix them by hard reseting the phone so far. I am going to try to flash a stock rom on this device and see what happens. Thanks by the way.
1) Are you rooted? If not, at least do that and install BBS in order to track down what's eating your battery.
2) Probably we'll run into a common problem / bug the last two months.
After unplugging the phone, it seems that the wakelock *backup* runs constantly, does not let phone get into sleep, and runs in the background while using your phone causin battery to drain faster.
3) About battery life. Comparing battery results between two users it has no point, unless you really now his usage pattern. Not only the setup, but which apps of them used most etc.
For example Facebook app is real battery eater. I've seen an hour more SOT without this app.
I can give several examples like this.
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Google fixed the battery issue ?? ........On my nexus Android System is still more draining batery then displey.......
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Google fixed the battery issue ?? ........On my nexus Android System is still more draining batery then displey.......
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Same here, I've been digging through articles most of them are the same. But there's a comment said disabling Automatic System Update fixes the issue.
And where i can disable this automatic update ?
ArzeniT said:
And where i can disable this automatic update ?
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You can find this in the developer settings. (You get there by clicking on the build number 8 times and it then shows up in your settings menu at the bottom.) Its weird that these Google devices keep getting this battery drain issue. Its so frustrating, you would think they would have this solved by now with the system going rogue thing.
Thanks man i will go test it ....
Hmm ....little bit better but still draining a lot ....... then 6.0
Stock DP2. I'm having solid battery life.
You guys should try doing a clean install from the factory image.
Mine was fixed by the battery replacement and been having 4+ hours SOT so far. Check this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/how-solved-battery-draining-problem-2-t3506071
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Stock DP2. I'm having solid battery life.
You guys should try doing a clean install from the factory image.
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Android System and OS are still at the top of battery usage. Which shouldn't really happen
Technicolors said:
Android System and OS are still at the top of battery usage. Which shouldn't really happen
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They are not at the top, Screen is at the top and system is below it which is what I would see on MM as well.
People are way to concerned about where Android System is on the usage list.... Does it really matter if you're getting solid battery life that's just as good as MM?
Also, if you're not aware, System and OS are probably going to show higher usage when compared to MM no matter what.
I'm pretty sure battery stats are calculated a bit different in N... If you go check out the battery life threads in the Pixel forums you'll see plenty of screenshots that show similar System usage.
Sadly I am not getting as good battery life as I did on MM... I've tried everything I could to improve battery life on N. My only option now is to move back to MM, which I am very tempted to do but rather not because everyone's moving to N, or replace the battery itself. The latter is probably the next thing I'll have to do. Right now I have to baby my 6P around just to get decent battery life out of it, and that honestly irritates me.
Hi All,
From Past 2 weeks... am Facing Phone Idle Battery Drain...
I have tried everything.... - Factory Resetting, etc....
The problem even persist in Safe Mode also...
Is it a Hardware issue ? or A Clean system Reflash might help ?
PS: My phone is not rooted.
For me after I'm uninstalling the snaptube, all it's turns normal... Maybe you use some app has draining your battery ?(software)
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Deci M said:
For me after I'm uninstalling the snaptube, all it's turns normal... Maybe you use some app has draining your battery ?(software)
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I also thought the same...But I didn't install any new apps other than Pixel Launcher.... And Now...I Uninstalled it.... Still facing the same problem.
I guess it is just the horrible LG software. I also experienced extreme battery drain in standby and could not figure out why.
I decided to flash the Resurrection Remix ROM onto my LG and look at that... Amazing battery life with the same usage and same apps installed.
My battery now drops 2% over night. With stock it was 9-10%.
I know it might not be the answer you are looking for. All I am saying is: maybe the Oreo update will help for Stock solutions.
There are reports out there that show amazing battery life with stock but they often disable a lot of services which in my eyes is not the purpose of a phone. Other than that... Try your luck with Greenify or something like that (could be hard to reach real results here without root though).
Schlengge said:
I guess it is just the horrible LG software. I also experienced extreme battery drain in standby and could not figure out why.
I decided to flash the Resurrection Remix ROM onto my LG and look at that... Amazing battery life with the same usage and same apps installed.
My battery now drops 2% over night. With stock it was 9-10%.
I know it might not be the answer you are looking for. All I am saying is: maybe the Oreo update will help for Stock solutions.
There are reports out there that show amazing battery life with stock but they often disable a lot of services which in my eyes is not the purpose of a phone. Other than that... Try your luck with Greenify or something like that (could be hard to reach real results here without root though).
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Hmm.... But I hav paid 760$ to buy this phone.... Why Should I settle for less ? If its a budget phone...then Ok...but this is a Flagship Device.... I am going to take this to Service Center. These Battey Problems are irritating me.
As far as I remember, that idle battery drain is known issue in Android 7.0 and our precious G6's have 7.0 and probably will never get 7.1 which has this problem fixed, LG rarely releases incremental updates, mostly only releases new devices with newer software (V30 has 7.1, Q6 also has 7.1 and their battery life is great).
7.0 bug causes "Phone Idle" thingy popping up in battery stats almost always on top, sucking up to 1000+mAh of battery in my case so I have to charge the phone almost every single day which is a little bit frustrating considering phone's battery and that it lies unused for around 8 hours every day as I have to leave my phone in locker room when I'm at work. This is the only thing that I hate in this phone.
We have to wait for Oreo... which also makes me a little bit nervous because 8.0 also has many bugs... Yes, 8.1 is right behind the corner but that strange LG update policy will probably halt our phones on 8.0...
wilsondrake said:
Being able to have numerous apps for different purposes downloaded on your phone is what makes our smartphones so good. However, there may be a few that are resulting in rapid Android OS battery drain., without you even knowing about it.
Try These
Stay in Power Saving Mode
Reduce Display light
Try using the App Greenify, helps you identify which apps are causing battery drain, and put these into hibernation when you are not using them, to stop them from lagging your device and leeching the battery
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Tried all.... Sadly...no improvement
wilsondrake said:
mmmm well try to change your phone then because these battery issues are really a pain in the a**
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Not so soon
romcio47 said:
As far as I remember, that idle battery drain is known issue in Android 7.0 and our precious G6's have 7.0 and probably will never get 7.1 which has this problem fixed, LG rarely releases incremental updates, mostly only releases new devices with newer software (V30 has 7.1, Q6 also has 7.1 and their battery life is great).
7.0 bug causes "Phone Idle" thingy popping up in battery stats almost always on top, sucking up to 1000+mAh of battery in my case so I have to charge the phone almost every single day which is a little bit frustrating considering phone's battery and that it lies unused for around 8 hours every day as I have to leave my phone in locker room when I'm at work. This is the only thing that I hate in this phone.
We have to wait for Oreo... which also makes me a little bit nervous because 8.0 also has many bugs... Yes, 8.1 is right behind the corner but that strange LG update policy will probably halt our phones on 8.0...
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Actually....Just got a October Security Update... Le me try this update...
romcio47 said:
As far as I remember, that idle battery drain is known issue in Android 7.0 and our precious G6's have 7.0 and probably will never get 7.1 which has this problem fixed, LG rarely releases incremental updates, mostly only releases new devices with newer software (V30 has 7.1, Q6 also has 7.1 and their battery life is great).
7.0 bug causes "Phone Idle" thingy popping up in battery stats almost always on top, sucking up to 1000+mAh of battery in my case so I have to charge the phone almost every single day which is a little bit frustrating considering phone's battery and that it lies unused for around 8 hours every day as I have to leave my phone in locker room when I'm at work. This is the only thing that I hate in this phone.
We have to wait for Oreo... which also makes me a little bit nervous because 8.0 also has many bugs... Yes, 8.1 is right behind the corner but that strange LG update policy will probably halt our phones on 8.0...
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Actually...Just got October Security Update... Will try this and report...
Sorry to burst your bubble early, but October Security Update won't change a thing. I've had it for a while and phone idle is still on top of my list for battery draining.
*fingers crossed for Oreo to fix this "bug"*
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Sorry to burst your bubble early, but October Security Update won't change a thing. I've had it for a while and phone idle is still on top of my list for battery draining.
*fingers crossed for Oreo to fix this "bug"*
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same here.... Oreo is the only way ???
same issues, the top battery draining is idle.. soo damn frustrated. and there no chance tochange to a rom without unlocked bootlocker right ? Because im not able to unlock it .
Croize said:
same issues, the top battery draining is idle.. soo damn frustrated. and there no chance tochange to a rom without unlocked bootlocker right ? Because im not able to unlock it .
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I think we can Unlock BL...but I don't want to unlock untill Oreo update....
still high idle... but lessa then a day or two ago, maybe correct itself, i dont wanna root because of this. My days with those kinds of tweaking is over
i think its gettiing better for me, altough standby is insane still, over 25 hrs
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still high idle... but lessa then a day or two ago, maybe correct itself, i dont wanna root because of this. My days with those kinds of tweaking is over
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Wow...you are getting 4hrs SOT in 36% of battery.... I get 4hrs at 2 or 3% of battery only... Yours seems better.... I will post my results today
My Stats....
I just feel... Phone Idle is draining too much battery?
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My Stats....
I just feel... Phone Idle is draining too much battery?
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damn :/
Wow, very bad score....
My phone keep to 72h in idle, juts normal use, few calls i day, bit 3g+, nothing bizare. I'm very happy with it
On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?
sonic1675 said:
On 9.0.5 was getting around 8-9hrs SOT now it's down to around 6. Have erased cache in recovery and restarted. I shouldn't have to do a hard reset after every update so I don't know what the issue is. I haven't installed anything else and have the same settings on as I did before the update. I'm unrooted add well.I just curious if anyone else is experiencing a decrease in battery life quality after the 9.0.6 OTA?
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I'm experiencing the same thing
Same, checked what is draining the battery but everything seems fine.
Same for me: after update SOT 6.5-7h, before around 9h. No root
Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.
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Mine was worse on 9.0.6 unlocked bl with magisk.
After that I used the MSM tool just to use it so I can learn.
After the MSM tool full restore battery was life was better.
I was also stock kernel and after the restore I put ElementalX.
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That's one of my points though, we shouldn't have to do a full restore every single time when taking an update
Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.
9.0.6, drains fast...just wait for update
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Have anyone found solution to this problem? This thread is holding me back from purchase.
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Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol
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Honestly, the battery life is still ridiculous, still a no brainier to get this phone, even with this update, but no doubt they'll fix it in the next one, it's just a pain, I'm really wondering if anyone's found a fix, and waiting for the next update is going to be anoying, but patience is a virtue lol
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Very true. I'm experiencing worse battery like but I'm still going 6+ hours sot and 30+ hours on a charge. It's like a Moto z play but flagship speed.
My idle drain is amazing still. Drops 2-3% in 8 hours if deep sleep. It's just seems to drain faster while screen is on.
Has this issue been fixed with 9.0.7?
There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.
I agree the battery is great.
After being on 9.0.7 since release I feel its slightly better so far.
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There are no battery drain issues with this device.
If you're expereincing bad battery life, tweak your settings or put your brain to work and figure out why. Stop blaming it on the OS, as it should be common knowledge by now to understand that battery life is completely subjective to the user and their location and usage habits, so it will vary widely from user to user...it is what it is. This device is capable of astounding battery life, period.
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I agree.
I have not experienced worse battery on 9.0.6 at all. What I have noticed is my usage has changed over time (honey moon period)
Perhaps your usages /locations have changed?
Switching from WiFi to celullars (especially outdoors when your removing about) make a big difference.
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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Fair point I guess.
I've never gotten 8 hrs SOT, 6 hrs at most and it's always been like that since day 1.
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See that's what I initially thought, but even with the 9.0.7 update, the fact is there is no usage difference at all on my part, no change of location, no change of settings, literally not a single thing different from the day before apart from the cache wipe. I have the exact same app usage and no major apps have been updated. For me personally I don't change my habits at all, and whether I or anyone else use any app 10 min more or less than the day before shouldn't make this big of a difference, especially such a drop. I'm not saying the battery life is bad after the update, don't get me wrong 6-7 hrs of SOT is amazing on any phone, i'm just pointing out that clearly then at this point it does in fact have something to do with a change in the OS right, especially if these minor differences in less then what I would give everyone's 5 most used apps they use daily are causing a 1-2hr drop in average SOT...
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And what if it's an app which got updated and started behaving strangely and sucking battery juice ? I would start with that then use BBS to look for detailed battery usage ...