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Finally Saw a Cingular 8500

I've had my 8525 for about 2 months now, and in all the literature you see it mentions an 8500, but all this time I thought it was just a pre-production prototype, or just a way of refering to the Hermes based phone series. Well, I had my phone out yesterday at a meet and greet and a guy goes "I've got that same phone but without the camera". One thing led to another, and I shot some pictures of it.
Maybe you guys have seen them before, maybe not... maybe ya just don't care. Whatever, I thought it was interesting how they blacked out the camera and flash, while still keeping the camera button.
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Forgive me for asking, but is that phone supposed to be for folk who work in companies that have a rule against cameras. Otherwise it seems very shoddy to still have the button and camera frame etc but no camera! Surely a back could have been designed not to look completely daft with those camera bits and the button, it could have been rebadged to some other function.
Mike

The guy who had it was a contractor for the government, and certain areas he is in, they don't allow cameras of any kind. Until he got this phone, as you know, the only phones he could find were really crappy phones.
And, I agree they could've... but with the low production, and low demand for it, why bother? That is way better than the last non-camera phone he had.

I guess your right
Mike

Believe it or not, the 8500 was released by cingular's B2B sales department about a month and a half before the 8525. I was in the Cingular corporate store here in austin (a friend works there) and I got to check one out. And yes you guys are right, its made for people who work in places where camera's aren't allowed, BUT since it still has the casing for the camera, many government offices still don't allow it!!! hahah, nice try cingular.
Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
If the made the battery cover completely flat without the camera cover, it would have been more successful, but I guess they overlooked that.

fone_fanatic said:
Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
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Is there any source for that? (other than finding someone ditching a dead 8525?)
Mike

Hey! I have the cingy 8500. Everything is the same as the 8525, just no camera. The camera button takes me straight to my pictures folder. fone_fanatic is correct. The phone *looks* like it still has a camera unless inspected a little closer. The bad thing, it still can't go where camera phones are not allowed (though, usually these places dont allow ANY phones anyway), the good thing, the phone CAN use extended life batteries. Seems all the extended life battery companies only make the back cover WITH the holes in it for the camera. If we didn't have the blank off stuff, we'd be out of luck in regards to extended batteries....
ps this is my first post... be gentle.

Alright, another Austinite!
fone_fanatic said:
Believe it or not, the 8500 was released by cingular's B2B sales department about a month and a half before the 8525. I was in the Cingular corporate store here in austin (a friend works there) and I got to check one out. And yes you guys are right, its made for people who work in places where camera's aren't allowed, BUT since it still has the casing for the camera, many government offices still don't allow it!!! hahah, nice try cingular.
Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
If the made the battery cover completely flat without the camera cover, it would have been more successful, but I guess they overlooked that.
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Can someone explain this? Fake/ Knock off G1?

Hi everyone, I am new to the t mobile community and I was looking on good ol ebay for a G1 without a contract. At that point my search threw back this in the query. I was quick to call b.s and all that so ofcourse i didn't buy it, but I just want to ask you all what in the hell is this. Has anyone out there bought it or had any experience with this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230319434420
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170293667058

Just some cheap "iClone" phones from China. Check your local craigslist- people cant seem to get rid of them fast enough once they get duped into buying them

Alright, In the first link the bid has ended so i cannot help you there. NOW In the second, It's a piece of hardware that may be fake, For Example, My cousin bought a phone like that about 2 months back from ofcourse good ol' Ebay, And what was it, A Japanese phone that looked just like the Iphone, It streamed TV had an antenna for when we made the switch on cable and antennas would be dead. It had like an 8 megapixel camera, Beautiful sweet deal for a smackin' $200 bucks. SO he went ahead and bought it. When it arrived it was the phone, or more exact the model, Which weight no more than a stack of papers, It didnt turn on, NOTHING. He decided to use a flathead screw driver to open it up, and what he found was that the phone had nothing inside, Literally, Nothing but sand, To make the phone weigh. So from me to you. Don't buy it. Skip it. Go to T-mobile and get the G1. lol But that was just 1 experience never know.

damn what a shame. Hopefully the people who are winning these ebay auctions don't get a box of sand shipped to them as well. I just did some reseach on meizu, they seem to be the company that is producing this stuff. Maybe its good enough for china, but I sure as hell am not taking a chance with it.

Those phones are real (not sure about the eBay one, but Deal Extreme and others sell the iClones) but they are very low quality. They also sell a ton of Nokia clones.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=230319434420
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Those phone don't even look like the G1. DA.

Lol... that second one has got SIX speakers!! Must be goood... hehe

Haha
I bought one of these a couple mounths ago they are useless without the stylus and no where near as good as any phone made recently but if all you got is 150 and u need it unlocked then this pos is for you lol...
Edit: this thing does internet movies music and my favorite was the web cam mine had it does a few things but it doesn't do any all that good

These phones do have uses. A lot of these Chinese knock-offs are bought by people needing unlocked phones and multi-SIM capability. In Europe, for example, there are many more carriers over much shorter distances than in the US. Also, the practice (law?) there is caller-pays-all. Incoming calls don't cost anything. Outgoing calls cost your rate plus the rate of the person you're calling, making having multiple SIM cards for different countries more economical. Many of these phones have gimmick features like TV reception, but all come with clunky, proprietary operating systems. Finding good, useful applications will be a constant source of frustration for someone looking for a way to complement his 10mm CZ "diamond" stud in his ear.

USA version of Galaxy S looks so much better :(

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But Samsung didn't think this is enough so they threw a gyrscope inside just like the one in iPhone 4
In addition, the Samsung Captivate is designed with a six-axis sensor that combines the smartphone's accelerometer and gyroscope to provide a smooth, fluid gaming experience
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/samsung-captivate-is-atandts-version-of-the-galaxy-s-launching/

I much prefer the i9000

Meh who needs a gyroscope anyways?

Hah would be funny to find that people outside the USA prefer that design and the Americans preferring the international version.

Theme appears less iphoney

Looks like an old Palm device I threw away 5 years ago.
I may end up with it, but based on that picture, I don't think its attractive at all.
If the I90000 looks iPhonish, who cares? It looks better than this.
That won't stop me from buying it. Depending on the issues around locking down apps to just the Market, and what Verizon ends up with from the Galaxy...that will determine which one I end up with.
Unless someone can convince me there is a good reason to stay on AT&T over Verizon, based on the carrier technology, not the complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. Their coverage is great where I would need it. (At least now it is).

i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...

BuddyLee said:
i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
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I think I prefer the EU version as well - it might be because I've just gotten used to the looks of it already. To me the US version reminds me of the Touch HD which is a phone I absolutely hated.

It depends on the dimensions and whether it has a flash - neither of which are stated.

Like I said in the other thread, there's no way AT&T would allow another phone closely resemble the iPhone AND have specs to directly compete with it and possibly blow it out of the water. Hence the removal of the front camera, possible gimping, and changing the looks.

It reminds me of this ..

I prefer the 3 button setup with hardware home key in the middle. First, it can be used to unlock, no need to fiddle with your thumb on the side. Second, it helps using the other two keys without looking.
Who really needs a search key anyway? And if you need it, just hold the menu key a little longer, and there you are.

we should have had a poll. like the att version alot. curious if the tmobile one is gonna be redesigned, especially since the sprint one also has four buttons up front.

Not to mention the hardware keyboard

No-one else thinks that it looks exactly like the Looks Xperia X10?...
fork! Annoying that I can't post images/urls. I wanna put the first image next to this one img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/XperiaX10_450x550.jpg

Looks a lot nicer than the standard version to me (and I'm not in the US!). The standard one looks like it's trying too hard to ape the iPhone, and not the new one either.
The AT&T site shows the back, which does not have a flash:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung-captivate.jsp
I'd definitely prefer this one - 16GB Flash (Vodafone exclusive in the UK) and a gyroscope, with better styling. It might not have a front camera, but it doesn't have a chocolate teapot attachment either and I care about the same amount for both of those features. (Well, to be fair, I could eat the chocolate - that would serve more of a purpose.) I've had phones with front-facing cameras for three years and have never made or received a video call over 3G, or had any desire to do so.

this doesn't look hot. i like the 9000 better

looks like a mini dell mini5 streak
pun intended

Biggest question for me, since both of them have slight variance in hardware like no front-camera and gyroscope, will a single rom cooked for 1 version work for both versions?
Because thats huge. It would fragment the Euro and USA rom cookers.

US Version looks way better and it has all 4 capacitive buttons, which would make running custom software a little easier. Booo @ removing the front facing camera.

Liquipel Your Samsung Galaxy Note NOW! Awesome!

Well, looks like we will not be left in the dusk when new waterproof phones release in the market later this year. Send your Samsung Galaxy Note to Liquipel to get your phone water-proofed NOW! This is not a marketing gimmick. Using nanotechnology it is very similar to HzO. However, this process can be applied on existing phones that do not feature HzO technology! Amazing huh?
http://www.liquipel.com/

It's the "how to be without your device for x days" that I wouldn't want.
If it came that way, it's one thing, but this device is is my work device.
Yeah, I could go use my old Dell Streak for X days, but it would tick me
off having to use it LOL.

The first thing it asks you is the model of your phone and the Galaxy Note or Galaxy anthing is not a choice.
I am sure this does not mean they cannot do it but I do not think they have tested our phone to make sure it does work. Until it is on their list, I do not believe they will accept our phone.
I would call but I would not do it since I have never let any of my phone even get close to water...and I have insurance on them if they did .
I did however, ask my daughter to consider it for her iphone 4s since who know what she is doing with it...

Im wondering if this will interfere with the head dissipation of the chips if it is done at a manufacturing level.
I would love to have this on my devices!

1. pay them $
2. send them my phone
3. waterproof magic??!
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Haha! . That brings back memories. I had that photo wall sized in my room, when I was a student...
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Technology Recently Introduced by Liquipel!
Well, Liquipel is a new company. It recently started, so gradually over the next few weeks - months, they will add most of the popular devices to their lists, including S2 and Note. This technology seems promising.
Check out their YouTube Channel,
http://www.youtube.com/user/liquipel?feature=watch

I emailed Liquipel about doing the Note and got this reply. Note is not one of their approved/tested devices yet but they will treat it. Cost $59. I may do it when I get my ATT Note
"Hello,
Thanks for your inquiry! That device is not currently on our approved device list but we are constantly doing research and development to expand the available devices. Liquipel is applicable to all types of electronic devices but with a varying degree of performance. For devices not on the approved device list we are still able to make them splash proof and spill resistant. We will file your request and notify you when the device is available if you are not interested in having it treated before it is added to the approved device list. If you desire to have our coating applied to your device before we have tested and approved said device to meet our high standards, we can do so. Simply select an approved device from the list & complete the checkout and mail in process through our website (Liquipel.com) as usual. Please include a note stating you are aware that your device is not the device you had selected, and that you would like to move forward with the treatment of the unapproved device. At this time cellular devices as well as iPods are just 59.00. IPads are 69.00. Thank you greatly for your inquiry.
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Thanks,
Liquipel Team"

Um...
Would you all still apply Liquipel even though the Note is currently NOT mentioned as one of their approved devices?

As in Liquipel advertisment, only see Iphone#$% (lack stamina) need waterproof, my Note needn't

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Would you all still apply Liquipel even though the Note is currently NOT mentioned as one of their approved devices?
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Yes I would do it. My friend did his Canon 5DmkII dslr and he's happy. Only problem for me would be time without my new Note. I wonder why they don't test more phones.

That's because they just started the process, though they have been out there since late '11,

I saw this the other day...looks interesting. My only worry would be from watching the iPhone on the vid,how do they waterproof the headphone port. idk neat invention none the less
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Canadian release April 8th? Who's in?

I'm with Wind Mobile (who's vague as an abstract painting about their release), but they're only giving out phones to new accounts.
The trick is to go to one of their corporate offices (which would be a "warranty repair centre") where they can't deny you a sale of said new device.
So, tomorrow, bright and early, this guy's going into town with the hopes that they have one in stock.
Wind doesn't lock their phones like other carriers do (not at all), so it's going to be interesting to see whether we can get full root on this thing or not (fingers crossed).
Who's going in on said device here in Canada?
Post phone lock states and whatnot to this thread! For science, and curiosity. :fingers-crossed:

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So u get a new device in canada ?
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Apparently the Wind shop closest to me is backordered on said G5 for at least one week, rep would not confirm anything else (still vague).
Roommate snagged one up at a Bell kiosk just as they got a shipment of camera modules in stock. He spent an hour there between the kiosk rep and on the phone with "customer loyalty" trying to get a better deal since he's been with them 10 years, and nothing came out of it other than the standard free attachment.
His phone warmed up a fair bit during initial setup and charging but he seems happy with it overall. His only gripe is -- why can't the camera attachment hardware buttons snap a photo while screen off?

I got mine - here in Manitoba.

Picked mine up earlier today with the cam plus module for free! I thought they were only giving these to those who re-upped for two years.

Got the "Free Gift"
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Picked mine up earlier today with the cam plus module for free! I thought they were only giving these to those who re-upped for two years.
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- But I did re-up. Sweet, fast phone with some refined MM goodness. Watch out for the edges of the screen protector.
The screen "tapers" or is slightly thinner at the edges/corners - looks like a recipe for frustration as the screen protector will not remain perfect for long. I noticed the after enabling Dev Options I have the "Enable OEM Unlocking" function. I have no illusions that anything would be this simple.....

Yeah but still no Bootloader unlock.
That oem unlocking is just part of os
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Wind does have the LG G5 for existing customers too. I found it in the list of upgrade phones. Perhaps I will wait for a proper root before upgrading...
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my plan was to get the device as soon as it came out, but when I got our demo device in store, I put off my decision till hearing more about the HTC 10.
The things I have noticed with the demo at my store is
1: The module at the bottom does not line up with the device, it might not be lots but it is enough. Plus worry about the future if the gap will get bigger
2: Audio quality is really weak. After using the G4 for the last while, I find the G4 has better placement and a better speaker all together.
3: The phones "metal body" feels weird. It does feel solid but at the same time it does not. Hard to explain
Those are my main issues, now with the camera, I do like the idea with the wide angle lenses but i wish the dual lenses was to help with zoom. Also I wish they upgraded the 16MP shooter. Dont get me wrong, the sensor is great with the G4 and G5, but I would have liked to see it improved even more. One other thing I would loved to see is before the phone was even released, LG going to the different accessory makers to give them the module access so when the phone launched they had more modules.
I dont know, maybe I am just being nit picky but I think LG dropped the ball a bit on this one. My final decision will be when I get my hands on the HTC 10 and G5 at the same time.

Got mine on Friday morning. Comparing this with the G3, G4 and Note Edge I find this thing to be ultra fast. Camera is pretty good although bright, its very noisey. Audio quality is ok.
Waiting for a root method,. unlocked the oem part, hopefully we will see root soon, Cant wait to seeing v10 camera app ports and custom kernels with exposed stuff